pankajs wrote:Karan M wrote:
Really? That's literally how the 2 nation theory was pushed for, and led to the Direct Action Day, and the deaths, murders, rapes of countless non Muslims and later Muslims as well. Should we ignore that? Also, if Hindus start saying "Musalmano se Azadi" will that even be acceptable (leaving aside the ethical, moral aspects out of the picture).
Can anyone here for instance, walk around in *any* secular society with a large placard stating " i want freedom from muslims" and not suffer significant consequences or blow-back? If so, the other case should be held as equally offensive.
Some people think "Hinduon se azadi" or "Muslamano se azadi" is same as "Gareebi se azadi" when clearly it is not. Any slogan that pits one section of society, whether in the name of religion or language or caste or creed or race, is not acceptable.
Some people think having "absolute" FoS is the way to go, where as
a. FoS is not free or absolute. Any slogan that attempts to divide the population is to be condemned. Condemning such slogan is not only ethical but also the in line with Indian law and courts judgement.
b. Just because something may work in a relatively homogeneous"western" society does not mean it is correct for a diverse society like India.
c. This militant version of FoS, which originate in the west, has started to be questioned even in the western countries as they confront increasing diversity.
Exactly. How is it ok to call for Hinduon se Azaadi and then some Hindu will argue he does not want Muslims in his area and there it starts. This was literally the basis of the 2-nation theory.
India has no dearth of yahoos across religions who are out to be incited into bad actions. And these chaps are arguing that all this is fine. The fact that this is fine, implies we have a severe dysfunction and sooner or later, things will start getting ugly.
It is good it is coming out now, but we should not call it acceptable.
Next, not sure it works in the western society as well.
Simple question. Can you make calls for "Muslims se azaadi" whilst being a prominent politician, business or military leader and double down on it?
Nine times out of ten, you will be forced to make an apology, backtrack and that's it, you are done even otherwise. The apology would be too little too late. The chaps who go by such unwritten rules are busy telling us, in a far more diverse and challenged society - where violence can erupt anytime and our police system is very undermanned, that we should somehow allow anyone to yell anything at anyone.