2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Krita · Post by **Krita** » 06 Jan 2020 21:01

Vikas wrote:We Hindus are part of the conversion problem.
From my personal knowledge:

Girl X : Father, A Telgu Hindu, Mother, A Marathi Muslim.
Both families disown them when they got married.
Father passed away few years back.
Girl X who is a practicing Hindu marries a Hindu guy but gets divorced (Husband abandons her)and has a 6 year old special needs Son. Now is in financial stress. Fathers family refuses to entertain any request for financial help despite ancestral property. Mothers family is willing to help if X converts to Islam and marries a distant maternal cousin. X was crying while narrating this story to me as she is a big Ganapati devotee and doesn't want to convert.

Girl X's sister who was a in a similar predicament 2 years back got converted , married a Muslim guy and became his 2nd wife. Marriage was solemnized by mothers brother who runs a tailoring boutique.

We can easily create a support system for the needy in our community. I am from Ernakulam, Kerala, we have a sewa bharati and RSS shakha managed orphanage at Alwaye. They crowd fund medical treatment and support for higher education for eco weaker students.
A middle aged widow had lost her house in Kuttanad area (in 2018 floods) and the local cpim was not helping at all. We met her through one of our relatives at Kuttanad.Within a week after we had informed Sewa Bharati, they came to the aid of the woman and she was provided alternate accomodation till the house construction was completed.
These people have done a great work in Kalady Manjapra perumbavoor belt during the 2018 floods.
Most of the members and donors are from lower middle class background.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 06 Jan 2020 21:07

Vikas wrote:
If Khujliwal wins Delhi on his won, He must be applauded for understanding the politics and pulse of People of Delhi better than Con party or BJP.

ajey maken under directives from 10 janpath is going to shift ConParty votes to aap again, shiela dixit was against it but she is dead now.

Maafiwal is on a strong wicket.

Many people got electricity bill of zero rupees or 30 rupees etc. in December

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 06 Jan 2020 21:28

https://youtu.be/idLAsxM_DsU
Listen to this crap
India would not be india if not for the Muslims
And all the communal tensions is due to British.
someone please ask this shit Why is called 'Hindu Kush'!!!
And the Ghazni Mohammmed came for sight seeing and for some R n R!!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:30

CRamS wrote:^^^ Absolutely, the positions are hardened. Also, when convenient they will say, I don't care about USA, I care about "my country India". Bloody low slime balls, using national symbols like anthem and constitution to break India.

But one sinister objective that I hope BIF DO NOT succeed in is to 'normalize' TSP through this Faiz shit. I see Jihadis in mutfi like Javed Akhtar, Amir Raza, Irfan Habib, and other scum bags who are indulging in all kinds of contortions to:

1. Claim that piece of vcrap from faiz about eliminating idol worshipers and only keeping Allah is somehow not to be taken literally and its only allegoric

2. Comparing a vile rabid Jihadi dictator like Zia Ul Haq with ModiJi, BJP, and RSS

On #2, just think about how that suits TSP and its 3.5 like sections of US who are inimical to India. The narrative will be along these lines in the NYT/WP/Economist etc: "Protests in India by students using a revolutionary poem by a Paki intellectuals is bringing the nuclear armed South Asian rivals together to isolate extremists on both sides". So not only will all of TSP's crimes be whitewashed, but TSP can continue to pump its pigLeTs under the back drop of this narrative.

TSP will not get normalized till Kashmir and terrorism are alive. No amount of poetry or word play can hide the crime of the TSP.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:34

madhu wrote:I feel opposition and people are stretching too much on CAA/NPR/NRC. Now that they know Modi cannot be cornered by development or corruption they have decided to do fear-mongering of muslims and effectively created a narrative that CAA/NPR is against secular ethos. Don't know how MAD can counter this?

Modi's vote backs him and that is enough. Of course the GOI should do its utmost to dispel the fear-mongering that is happening.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:42

madhu wrote:
greatde wrote: Ultimately, we have 50% who are confused Hindus and, they are and will be affected by all this negativity. The next 25% are already pro-Hindu, whereas the other 25% have too much of the secular-drink and will never vote BJP ever. This protest targets the 50% confused Hindus and it will work if morale continues to go down...
This is exactly my worry is. This should not turnout to be like anna hazare movement during UPA. Many many of them do not know what is CAA/NPR/NRC but think they are modi's work to divide people. They are so blind folded that they dont want to listen anything other than what is false news.

1. About 50% of Hindus backed Modi last time and the number will only increase going forward.
2. Anna Hazare raised an issue that impacted ALL Indians i.e. corruption where as the current issue impact only the majority community in our neighbouring 3 Islamic countries. That said, it can at best be extended to the Indian Muslims by fear-mongering. So very unlikely that the current situation will go the Hazare route.

However, notice the recent spin that is being given. Khujaliwal recently tried to link it to ALL Indians and stated that everyone bar none will have to produce "birth certificate" to prove citizenship.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:49

CRamS wrote:
madhu wrote:I feel opposition and people are stretching too much on CAA/NPR/NRC. Now that they know Modi cannot be cornered by development or corruption they have decided to do fear-mongering of muslims and effectively created a narrative that CAA/NPR is against secular ethos. Don't know how MAD can counter this?
The target of the opposition, at least the strategists is to paint a picture of dystopia that under BJP/ModiJi, India is being torn apart along religious lines is the narrative. They will also cleverly include Dalits. And they have likes of any # of Dalit 'intellectuals' as willing collaborators in whipping up this negativity. And their audience is the 'international community'. Lets not hedge here, but for those of us who live in US, we know media toes the govt line on foreign policy. So this barrage of negativity from NYT/WP/Economist etc clearly reflects their respective govt's thinking.

To your question on how MAD can counter it? They are doing what they have to. Reaching out and explaining their PoV. Where I would be worried is if all the negativity prevents foreign investment from flowing in to help improve economy. It looks like Japan is stalling in investing in Assam post Abe's decision to postpone his visit in lieu of protests. The opposition is feasting on this. So, if this kind of negativity continues and economy goes further south, it will surely affect BJP's electoral prospects and even ability to govern effectively. I am talking about fence-sitting Hindus who might fall for all the negativity.

There is a clear distinction between Hindus on one side, and Muslims/Christians on the other. The latter vote en masse as a block and along clear religious identities. Hindus on the other hand are a divided lot and very hard getting them to vote as a block beyond a certain point. Or else these protests should have clearly consolidated the Hindu vote in favor of BJP. (I mean the p!ssfuls and their leadership clearly showing where their loyalties lie). Maybe it will, I don't know, but history has shown that this is not a certainty.

Just to give you an example of how disunited Hindus are, please see this Sonia Sena slavish lout, Sanjay Raut addressing a p!ssful rally with full of fire and hatred against BJP.

https://www.rediff.com/news/column/what ... 200105.htm

Seasoned BRites know about my prediction aeons ago. The hatred against BJP/ModiJi, or shalll we say the hatred of Hindus is so pervasive that the day is not very far off when opposition and 'Hindu' opportunists like Sonia Sena collude with Pakis to take on BJP. We are seeing this play out in slow motion.

1. Japs hitting the brakes is to be expected because of the ongoing agitation in Assam. Doesn't mean the Jap investment in the rest of the country will go down.

2. Modi/Shah are already linking CON to Bakis, so "colluding with Baki to take on BJP" would be a manna from heaven for BJP. Didn't the liberandu media tell us that Balakot saved Modi/BJP in 2019?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:52

Sicanta wrote:Amu and jamia? One expects nothing but trouble there. But how long will the Gov allow lawlessness to continue at jnu. Really needs a new VC who has both academic and disciplinarian credentials.

Not paying special attention to HRD ministry has allowed for situation to descent to this level.

As I wrote a while back, the BJP might have deliberately given JNU the long rope. When the change will come it will be fast and furious.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:53

KJo wrote:
Sicanta wrote:Amu and jamia? One expects nothing but trouble there. But how long will the Gov allow lawlessness to continue at jnu. Really needs a new VC who has both academic and disciplinarian credentials.

Not paying special attention to HRD ministry has allowed for situation to descent to this level.
Why not Subramanian Swamy for VC of JNU?
Now that would be a bold decision.

What an Idea!

but he is a loose cannon and this place needs a deep surgery.

nam · Post by **nam** » 06 Jan 2020 21:58

Why are we even discussing about some college jokers going on a rampage? No one gives a toss about them, nor they are relevant to national policy. It is actually telling on the people who spend time watching these jokers on tv.

We have 1.3 billion people. There will always be something a thousand will disagree with the next thousand.

The way to solve this "problem" is stop watching TV news. The rampage will be taken care by the police.

banrjeer · Post by **banrjeer** » 06 Jan 2020 21:58

"I am sorry, but are JNU folks only voters in New Delhi? Are'nt we also seeing a counter polarisation on the Hindu side, when it is becoming quite clear that CAA and NRC is being attacked purely on religious lines? If the Aam Aadmi Delhi-wallah is also like the free-loader at JNU, then perhaps BJP would lose. But from what I understand there is also Hindu polarisation happening."

Not much hope in Urban area like Delhi, media is one sided. No one is reporting that SJSU, AISA started the violence. Bollywood has reinforced it's campaign.

For every two bit scuffle Modi is somehow to blame. ABVPs tactics have no long term gain. The way out is to file cases and claim damages and personal bonds from the leftists who are disruptinng academics.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 21:59

Aditya_V wrote:
madhu wrote:Guys, need some help. Need to counter this.

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/sto ... 2019-12-12

Any unbiased irrefutable data on this?
Read the lines in the article- they start from 1951 after post partition violence, why not take it district wise in 1941.

The preceding figures on Pakistan's religious composition that are available are from Census 1941. But since it was conducted in an undivided India, referring to it is futile as it doesn't reflect the ground situation created just after the bloodied Partition in 1947.

After its formation, the first census in Pakistan was carried out in 1951. This census included both East and West Pakistan.
Basically BS

Yup .. the partition happened in 1947 so the correct comparison should be 1947 or prior. Going by later date means shifting the goal post.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 22:11

https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/sc-u ... ons-151307
'No Absolute Right Of Appointment For Minority Educational Institutions' : SC Upholds WB Madrasah Service Commission Act [Read Judgment]

"No absolute right" is very significant. AND more

... the leading judgment in TMA Pai Foundation , the right to admit students has not been considered to be an absolute and an unqualified right. The decision in P.A. Inamdar shows that in professional educational institutions or those imparting higher education, merit based selection has been taken to be in the interest of the nation and subserving and strengthening the national welfare. Selection of meritorious students has been accepted to be in the national interest. A minority institution cannot in the name of right under Article 30(1) of the Constitution, disregard merit or merit-based selection of students as regards professional and higher education.

NOTE: "national welfare" and "national interest" are two very dangerous words and depending on who holds the power can swing as case 180 degrees.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jan 2020 22:14

pankajs wrote:
KJo wrote:
Why not Subramanian Swamy for VC of JNU?
Now that would be a bold decision.
What an Idea! but he is a loose cannon and this place needs a deep surgery.

he would see it as an insult.

He feels that he is destined for far more important things and frankly one would agree with him.

they should simply unshackle him and let him go after the vermin infesting India.

Zynda · Post by **Zynda** » 06 Jan 2020 22:16

It seems like BIF have got their optics act together. They have done the same thing which RWs did pre-2014...they have used the last 5 years to build up their formidable capabilities on SM as well. With most MSM in their bags and now being proactive on SM and with sufficient International co-operation, they have been successful in creating & enforcing their narratives. They have not won the battle yet (2019 LS election was proof of that) but I feel like they have learnt on how to fight back again!

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 06 Jan 2020 22:18

Kejriwal has done a few things in Delhi. Some freebies for the lower class and slum dwellers. Some activity on govt education and health. Voting in parliament has been carefully calibrated to please both sides a little bit. Total silence on RJB. Voted for J&K reorg but against TTT and CAA. So hasn't made the mistakes of Mughlai party. The negative is that all of Delhi money is going to freebies and his pet projects. Very little has been spent on infrastructure. But Delhi being controlled by Union govt to a great extent Delhi somehow managed to show some development but not what it could be specially for a capital city of an aspiring superpower. No big vision on how to make Delhi a world class city. My relative who was very pro-Kejir 5 yrs back is now saying he hasn't done anything for Delhi. So Kejriwal will not get all the middle class votes he got last time. And BJP has been very asleep. They control the MCD but did not hear anything good from them. Did not develop of a good leader. god knows why they made a Bhojpuri singer as Delhi president. Overall due to lack of any BJP face Kejriwal is likely to become CM again with Cong support. And Delhi will continue to look like capital of Somalia and not capital of China.

greatde · Post by **greatde** » 06 Jan 2020 22:21

nam wrote:Why are we even discussing about some college jokers going on a rampage? No one gives a toss about them, nor they are relevant to national policy. It is actually telling on the people who spend time watching these jokers on tv.

The way to solve this "problem" is stop watching TV news. The rampage will be taken care by the police.

Just closing your eyes will not solve/let go of a problem. The information battle is won/lost from the surface, not details. 50% Hindus are always confused, and the negativity in the air will grow, and ultimately affect elections, economy and country.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 22:22

https://twitter.com/mamidala90/status/1 ... 7267907585

Mamidala Jagadesh Kumar @mamidala90

Would like to appeal to all the JNU students to maintain peace. The University stands by all the students to facilitate their pursuit of academic activities. We will ensure that their winter semester registration will take place without any hindrance.

Test of the pudding will be in the eating. This is the thing that the Leftist wanted to stop. Let see ...

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 06 Jan 2020 22:37

I thought Hardeep Singh Puri would be a good candidate. But...

Bhojpuri singer as Delhi president

Kejriwal had said that people from Bihar visit Delhi by purchasing a ticket of ₹500 and go back after availing free medical treatment worth ₹5 lakh

Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal on Wednesday said if the National Register of Citizens (NRC) is implemented in the national capital, Delhi BJP Chief Manoj Tiwari would be the first to leave the city. [..] Tiwari hails from Bihar and has been a successful singer and actor in the Bhojpuri film industry.

Now I am thinking that MT is the right CM candidate, LeLi elitist Dilliwalas hate him for same reason they hate Modi. He is a "Bihari" and Modi is a "Chaiwala".

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 06 Jan 2020 22:45

Kejriwal to sweep Delhi election - Opinion poll.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 125859.cms

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 06 Jan 2020 22:48

About 33% of Delhi voters are lower class or slum dwellers. Except for Lutyens Delhi and some middle class areas Delhi is full of slums and ghettos or what they call unauthorized colonies. Outside NCT Delhi it looks like capital of some failed Soviet states.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jan 2020 23:27

https://twitter.com/nyayamindia/status/ ... 1334809600

Nyayam @nyayamindia

National Herald case: Plea in Supreme Court by Sonia and Rahul Gandhi against reopening of tax assessment for financial year 2011-12 listed for final disposal on March 17 this year by a bench led by Justice D.Y.Chandrachud. Gandhis were represented by Senior counsel P.Chidambaram

OK .. another interesting news ..
https://twitter.com/nitishkashyap89/sta ... 3701752832

Nitish Kashyap @nitishkashyap89

#BombayHC dismisses petition and refuses to interfere with show cause notice issued by SEBI for alleged violation under Prohibition of Insider Trading Regulations against NDTV promoters Prannoy Roy and Radhika Roy challenging @LiveLawIndia

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jan 2020 00:11

twitter

This is crazy.

AISA students in JNU got Jamia students from outside to beat up ABVP students.

ABVP got DU students to retaliate and beat up AISA

NSUI students infiltrated to beat both sides and create a violent situation.

Barkha's inadvertent expose is tip of iceberg

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jan 2020 00:13

Timeline of how the violence unfolded in JNU:

January 4: Around 1 pm masked intruders entered the Central Information System and damaged the server. Students allegedly affiliated with Left wing students' unions were present at the server room since January 3.

On Jan 4, an altercation took place between Left and ABVP students, one ABVP leader beat up a Left student for not allowing him to enter the server room.

January 5: Around noon ABVP students, who had gone for the registration of winter semester, were attacked. This went on till 1 pm and security guards who tried to intervene were also beaten up.

After 5 pm: Over 50 intruders, allegedly belonging to ABVP, wearing masks entered the JNU campus from the back gate. Armed with lathis, clubs and sticks they entered JNU hostels attacked students inside Sabarmati Hostel and Koyna Hostel. The masked men and women attacked students who were at the dhabas.

The masked intruders also specifically attacked JNUSU official bearers and students. JNUSU president Aishe Ghosh suffered injuries and was seen bleeding from the forehead.

5:30 pm: When the first distress call was made, few local police personnel reached the JNU campus but stopped at entrance gate because no permission was given.

6:45 pm: JNU administration gave a written consent to Delhi Police to enter the campus as the intruders went about attacking students and vandalising hostels.

Subsequently, several calls were made by students who were attacked.

7 pm: Delhi Police entered campus after 7 pm. Reinforcements entered the campus after 7:30 pm

Senior officers DCP, JCP reached JNU campus gate at around 7:45 pm. More deployment was made after 8 pm.

8:30 pm: Gates of JNU were sealed by Delhi Police personnel.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/j ... 2020-01-06

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 07 Jan 2020 00:15

Supratik wrote:Kejriwal to sweep Delhi election - Opinion poll.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 125859.cms

One state after another. This hysteria will keep on gaining momentum, to showcase these losses as 'people losing faith in Modi'. I guess it will all be upto UP now, in 2022.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 07 Jan 2020 00:17

If the above is correct, and not the usual whitewash by "lefty" media, this indicates the first time in recent years the left guys got a proper thrashing as versus engaging in their usual violence.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jan 2020 00:19

IndraD wrote:twitter
This is crazy.

AISA students in JNU got Jamia students from outside to beat up ABVP students.

ABVP got DU students to retaliate and beat up AISA

NSUI students infiltrated to beat both sides and create a violent situation.

Barkha's inadvertent expose is tip of iceberg

Doc it may look humorous but a greater tragedy was prevented last 24 hours.
There was a coordinated campaign by Congress party backing to bring 'students' from far away states.
Add to that second rate lawyers homes were being turned into sanctuaries for the thugs.

All kallas now.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 07 Jan 2020 00:36

Don't know if this was discussed here but in US there is a CAA equivalent: Lautenberg Amendment and Specter Amendment: (Credits: Saw this on TimesNow expose)

@CSRam this one is for you.

http://religiousliberty.tv/lautenberg-a ... pardy.html

In 1990, Congress enacted an amendment, written by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ, b. 1924 – d. 2013), as part of the Foreign Operations Appropriations Act, which created a special category of persecuted religious minorities, allowing members of the group to apply for refugee status in the United States without having to prove that they were oppressed or persecuted. (The Immigration and Nationality Act requires other types of prospective refugees to "establish a well-founded fear of persecution on a case-by-case basis.") At the time, the Lautenberg Amendment was specific to asylum-seekers, primarily Jews and some evangelical Christians, in the former Soviet Union.

...........................

In 1994, the law was expanded with the Specter Amendment to include religious minorities, including Christians, Zoroastrians, Baha'is, and others, from Iran. In recent years, most Lautenberg Amendment beneficiaries have come from this territory.

The State Department spokesperson continued: "The Lautenberg Amendment applies only to nationals of the countries of the former Soviet Union and Iran, who are members of certain religious minorities in those countries. It is a statutory provision that defines certain categories of refugees for whom less evidence is needed to establish refugee status for purposes of resettlement to the United States. Each fiscal year, the Amendment expires and requires Congressional renewal. Refugee resettlement applicants under this program are subject to the same stringent security vetting processes that apply to refugee applicants of other nationalities considered for admission to the United States of America."

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jan 2020 00:44

https://twitter.com/brb1954/status/1214 ... 62592?s=20

Baburam Bhattarai
@brb1954
Congratulations,JNU ! You are the beacon of New Enlightenment !

as soon leftists picked up SOS in Bwood, entire world was altered. there were protests of handful from Oxford to Hyderabad.
This is former Nepal PM ^^ whose swearing in had Yechuri as guest

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 07 Jan 2020 00:48

According to some (suyash bharadwaj, I think) On twitter, BJP has the best chance with Meenakshi Lekhi as CM candidate. To those outside Delhi, she is the best known BJP face from Delhi.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Jan 2020 02:42

Sumeet wrote: @CSRam this one is for you.

http://religiousliberty.tv/lautenberg-a ... pardy.html

SumeetJi, on the lighter side, looks like you have been having an extended new year eve party and just recovered from the hangover

. The Lautenberg Amendment was posted here several days ago, and beaten to death. I myself commented on this here:

viewtopic.php?p=2404756#p2404756

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Jan 2020 02:52

Guys my take on the JNU situation. Of course truth is a lot complicated.

No doubt in my mind that the leftist goons started the violence beating the living shit out of ABVP and other students who wanted to get on with their student life by registering etc.

In response, it seems to me that ABVP decided to counterattack and they got some goons of their own who entered the campus and beat the shit out of leftists.

Now, in the midst of all this, you have morally fraudulent politicians like Yogendra Yadav and negative IQ dynasts like Pappu and his new found slave Udhav Thackeray step in and milk the shit out of this by blaming ABVP alone. (Udhav Thackeray is really degenerate mentally unstable crackpot for comparing a state sponsored act of war on 26/11 by Pakis with what happened at JNU).

What is interesting to me is the role of the Delhi police. Let me take both sides:

1. One side is that they stood by and let the ABVP goons thrash the living daylights out of leftists and their goons to teach them a lesson. Perhaps there was some low level BJP involvement.

2. The benign version is that after the Jamia incident, police were reluctant to use force straightaway lest they be accused of high handedness.

But make no mistake, when ModiJi does not directly speak, there is a good reason for it

. He probably has all the intelligence into what exactly happened. It is very clear that while ABVP cannot be absolved of the violence, the BIF and opposition ate plating a dangerous game with their machinations.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jan 2020 03:26

In my view, CRS is mostly right. 2 led to 1.
The big picture is to show Delhi Police as brutal state instrument and Amit Shah in bad light.*
The prevention of registration is a Vice Chancellor failure IOW, HRD ministry issue.
In November, JNU saw protests on fee hike and student goons were let loose threatening the VC's wife also.
They should have been expelled right then. The non-action by VC led to current situation.

* see the organized support system: B Dutt sending WA messages, ambulances with Youth Congress Medical wing, civil society agiators like Yognedra Yadav, Vodka Vadra at AIIMs. Spontaneous rallies in Mumbai, Hyderabad etc.

And the plans for Phase II Hong Kong Flash mobs with parachuted goons on trains from usual suspect states of Kerala and West Bengal.

And the hope to prop up AAP in elections.
After the Nankana Sahib outrage most Sikhs in Delhi are deserting Kejriwal. Hence need to divide the Hindu vote with a stage managed outrage.
Usual Congress handiwork when out of power.
long back they did a false flag mass student rape in Kolkata with that effeminate Siddhrath Shankar Ray.
Don't know how many of you know that incident.
This is a false flag student attack.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jan 2020 03:48

“It was the darkest time of my life”: Chef Atul Kochhar narrates what he and his family had to face after being targeted by Islamist-Leftists
https://www.opindia.com/2020/01/it-was- ... -leftists/

Chef Atul Jochar after being targeted by Rupa Subramanyam on twitter leaves a desolate life with children ostracised. ^^

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jan 2020 03:53

well oiled mechanism of outrage

stage 1 > Umar Khalid , Shehla Rashid , Kanhaiah
Stage 2 > Barkha , Choubey , Guptha , Haider
(Bollywood joins in as force multiplier: Swara Bhaskar type dimwit being RT by ex PM Nepal))
Stage 3 > Rahul , Priyanka , Kejriwal
Stage 4 > Stalin , Mamata , Yechury
Stage 5 > strike on campuses
Stage 6 > Wapo, BBC, NYT picks up
Modi govt maligned, demonised

In few days

Another outrage ..!

(PS with BJP gone in MH, Uddhav Thackeray is proving to be an unstable idiot ready to stoop to any level to remain CM)

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 07 Jan 2020 04:07

ramana wrote: This is a false flag student attack.

If the police identify and arrest some of the attackers, they may be able to determine their affiliation, who did the planning, etc.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 07 Jan 2020 05:34

CRamS wrote:Guys my take on the JNU situation. Of course truth is a lot complicated.

No doubt in my mind that the leftist goons started the violence beating the living shit out of ABVP and other students who wanted to get on with their student life by registering etc.

In response, it seems to me that ABVP decided to counterattack and they got some goons of their own who entered the campus and beat the shit out of leftists.

Now, in the midst of all this, you have morally fraudulent politicians like Yogendra Yadav and negative IQ dynasts like Pappu and his new found slave Udhav Thackeray step in and milk the shit out of this by blaming ABVP alone. (Udhav Thackeray is really degenerate mentally unstable crackpot for comparing a state sponsored act of war on 26/11 by Pakis with what happened at JNU).

What is interesting to me is the role of the Delhi police. Let me take both sides:

1. One side is that they stood by and let the ABVP goons thrash the living daylights out of leftists and their goons to teach them a lesson. Perhaps there was some low level BJP involvement.

2. The benign version is that after the Jamia incident, police were reluctant to use force straightaway lest they be accused of high handedness.

But make no mistake, when ModiJi does not directly speak, there is a good reason for it . He probably has all the intelligence into what exactly happened. It is very clear that while ABVP cannot be absolved of the violence, the BIF and opposition ate plating a dangerous game with their machinations.

my hunch on JNU saga, and not just this incident, is that
1. govt wants to get rid of mess called JNU and wants to see through the end of it.
2. Leftists used to beat, get slightly beaten back and hyperventilate as victims all the time ..this time they get what was long overdue.. a solid thrashing.
3. BTW all this is not unusual with heated fights. remember what happend in Amity few days back over parking episode with a girl? Just that JNU is politically charged all the time. I have myself seen such fights from distance for the little time i was in DU. even erstwhile DCE now DTU used ot experience such things all the time, they had unions
4. Now coming to how this might play, JNU and other university rules may go through some changes, e.g., entry of police, hostel timings, and perhps shifting of JNU to other location, or some reorg of JNU my suggestion is near ghazipur dump or delhi bye pass..at least teh hoomanities deptmt. The science one can be linked to IIT. This kinda disease is growing in many unis (DU, IITs etc) and festering in some (JNU, JU, AMU)

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 07 Jan 2020 05:39

eklavya wrote:
ramana wrote: This is a false flag student attack.
If the police identify and arrest some of the attackers, they may be able to determine their affiliation, who did the planning, etc.

there is no way out of this following usual path..leftists will cry they were randomly picked up...they will boost the narrative of innocent students..
meanwhiel shora bibi was found hanging out in US, NYC i guess

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 07 Jan 2020 06:13

Further investigation of a post from Shanknad:

JNU occupies a total of 1019.38 acres of land (ref: https://www.jnu.ac.in/sites/default/files/FactSheet.pdf) in a region of India, where the cost of sq ft is ~Rs.13,000/-, that Univ is alone sitting on a real estate of 5 or 6 lakh crores !!

VenkataS · Post by **VenkataS** » 07 Jan 2020 07:18

OmkarC wrote:Further investigation of a post from Shanknad:

JNU occupies a total of 1019.38 acres of land (ref: https://www.jnu.ac.in/sites/default/files/FactSheet.pdf) in a region of India, where the cost of sq ft is ~Rs.13,000/-, that Univ is alone sitting on a real estate of 5 or 6 lakh crores !!

You are a little off in your calculation. JNU real estate is worth about 50,000 to 60,000 crore (from the figures you gave). However this is a substantial sum.

You could sell the land where JNU sits on currently and move the University to a more nationalistic place for a fraction of that cost (maybe 2000 crores) and appoint a retired Indian army officer/general as a VC.

You could in-fact, by selling the land that JNU sits on, do one of these three things which will be awesome from a national perspective:
1. Create 30 universities of national importance geographically spread throughout India.
2. Invest that sum in eliminating illiteracy (including adult illiteracy) in India.
3. Invest that sum in improving primary and secondary school infrastructure (and/or teacher salaries) with the aim of helping every child complete at least 12 years of education.