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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 11 Jan 2020 18:08

amitverma wrote:If mobile services & the internet become fundamental human rights, then you can't deny them to prisoners.
You can't deny them to terrorists rotting in jails.

You can't put any limitations in schools & colleges on mobile phones.
You can't put any limitations on mobile phones in the workplace.

Many examples will come where this statement of "basic human right" will not be applicable.


there is this desire to declare everything as a fundamental right.

is this the dark side of "democracy" where the individual's rights are seen to override those of the state, with duties given the sly go by.

Are burning buses and hurling grenades also a part of this simplistic pantheon of fundamental rights

what about the rights of the community, and individual rights to earning a living, go to the hospital or school, and what of our rights that stop these agitating hooligans from interfering in the liberty of those who do not support them.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby yensoy » 11 Jan 2020 21:02

Rsatchi wrote:https://t.co/8tib8sEsAn?amp=1
Is this true??
Or is this all Dimran/Mahathir bullshit

1. Why should we believe this crazy bigot?
2. Even if were to be true, we can afford to let him loose (for now, before we lock him up again on some other transgression he is most certain to carry out) in exchange for a perceived benefit... why not?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby schinnas » 12 Jan 2020 08:09

J&K DSP Davinder Singh arrested with Hizb terrorists.

Looks like there were enough warning signals earlier, right from Afsal Guru time. Hmm...wonder if he was honey trapped or a had converted.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/jk-dsp ... 208006.cms

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Postby Deans » 12 Jan 2020 10:10

amitverma wrote:If mobile services & the internet become fundamental human rights, then you can't deny them to prisoners.
You can't deny them to terrorists rotting in jails.

You can't put any limitations in schools & colleges on mobile phones.
You can't put any limitations on mobile phones in the workplace.

Many examples will come where this statement of "basic human right" will not be applicable.


SC has NOT said Internet/ mobiles are fundamental rights. They have said that the right to carry on a legitimate business is a basic right and if that business involves the use of the internet, than access to it cannot be denied - unless it is temporary and for good reason. The logic is broadly correct. If I run a travel agency in Kashmir - it cannot indefinitely be denied the use of the internet. The reasons (for internet denial or imposition of sec 144) need to be stated, so that it is not an arbitrary or prolonged decision. SC recognizes that there are challenges like national security which will require internet curbs etc, but the restriction has to be proportionate to the threat, other alternatives have to be considered and it has to be reviewed periodically.

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Postby Gerard » 12 Jan 2020 10:56

"We declare that the freedom of speech and expression and the freedom to practice any profession or carry on any trade, business or occupation over the medium of internet enjoys constitutional protection under Article 19(1)(a) and Article 19(1)(g). The restriction upon such fundamental rights should be in consonance with the mandate under Article 19 (2) and (6) of the Constitution, inclusive of the test of proportionality."

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Postby Deans » 12 Jan 2020 11:05

schinnas wrote:J&K DSP Davinder Singh arrested with Hizb terrorists.

Looks like there were enough warning signals earlier, right from Afsal Guru time. Hmm...wonder if he was honey trapped or a had converted.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/jk-dsp ... 208006.cms


Very disturbing for a non Kashmiri Muslim officer to be involved.

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Postby anmol » 12 Jan 2020 14:06

Not sure how reliable the source(dailyhunt.in) is:
Delhi: Decorated J&K Cop Caught With Hizbul Terrorists On Way | dailyhunt.in
A Jammu and Kashmir police officer decorated with the President's medal for bravery was caught on Saturday with two terrorists, travelling in a vehicle on the Srinagar-Jammu Highway. The terrorists were on their way to Delhi, police sources said.

Davinder Singh, Deputy Superintendent of Police posted at the sensitive Srinagar International airport was caught at Wanpoh in the Kulgam district with Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist Naveed Babu. Babu is accused of being involved in the killing of 11 non-local workers including truck drivers and labourers in south Kashmir in October and November last year.

The series of killings were carried out to drive non-locals out of Kashmir and target Kashmir's apple industry after the scrapping of Jammu and Kashmir's special status by the central government in August.

Police sources say they were tracking Naveed Babu's movements and his location was traced after he made a phone call to his brother.

The police intercepted a vehicle in which the Hizbul terrorist, who is also a former Special Police Official (SPO), his accomplice Asif and Deputy Superintendent of Police Davinder Singh were travelling at Wanpoh.

Davinder Singh was awarded the President's Police Medal for Gallantry on August 15 last year.

After arresting and interrogation of Davinder Singh and Naveed Babu, the police carried out multiple raids in Srinagar and South Kashmir and recovered a huge cache of arms and ammunition stashed by Singh and other terrorists.

At Davinder Singh's home in Badami Bagh Cantonment in Srinagar, the police recovered an AK-47 rifle and two pistols. Another AK rifle and a pistol were recovered based on Naveed Babu's confession.

Police sources say investigations are underway to find out why the terrorists were going to Delhi with the help of a police officer.

Sources say Davinder Singh was absent from duty today and had applied for four days leave from tomorrow.

Davinder Singh had shot into spotlight after a letter written by Afzal Guru, the parliament attack convict, in 2013 claimed the officer had asked him to accompany a parliament attack accused to Delhi and arrange his stay there.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

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Postby nam » 12 Jan 2020 18:31

Deans wrote:
schinnas wrote:J&K DSP Davinder Singh arrested with Hizb terrorists.

Looks like there were enough warning signals earlier, right from Afsal Guru time. Hmm...wonder if he was honey trapped or a had converted.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/jk-dsp ... 208006.cms


Very disturbing for a non Kashmiri Muslim officer to be involved.


Wonder if he was cultivating assets and was deliberately outed..

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Postby Deans » 12 Jan 2020 19:34

nam wrote:
Deans wrote:
Very disturbing for a non Kashmiri Muslim officer to be involved.


Wonder if he was cultivating assets and was deliberately outed..


If the story is correct, they were not potential assets, but terrorists who should have been shot on sight. It worries me as A DSP is not so senior that he can travel with wanted terrorists, or bring unauthorised weapons inside probably the most heavily guarded cantonment in India.

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Postby Thakur_B » 12 Jan 2020 19:41

Deans wrote:
nam wrote:
Wonder if he was cultivating assets and was deliberately outed..


If the story is correct, they were not potential assets, but terrorists who should have been shot on sight. It worries me as A DSP is not so senior that he can travel with wanted terrorists, or bring unauthorised weapons inside probably the most heavily guarded cantonment in India.


Not commenting on the particulars of this case, but it is not unusual for high ranking officials to make contact with those on the other side of law. There are numerous documented instances of surrender induced in this manner or vital intel gathering.

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Postby Rishirishi » 13 Jan 2020 02:58

Very disturbing for a non Kashmiri Muslim officer to be involved.


Could also be a good sign. Jehadis would only hire a Kafir, if they can't find someone in their own ranks.

They had advertised a "lava" and an orgie of violance, if the 370 was abolished. Either GOI had managed to sensor the "lava" or it has not taken place. I suspect the latter :D

From various reports, it seems people from all level were part of the fight against India. It included people like telephone opperators, doctors, government officicials, police, airport staff, builders, traders etc etc. the Jehads had no problems moving arround during curfews, as they had legitimate pases.

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Postby Shanmukh » 13 Jan 2020 09:10

X posted from the Partition thread.

Here, Saswati Sarkar, Dikgaj and I look at the number of Muslims killed/expelled from Jammu. As usual, all comments/criticisms are welcome.
https://sringeribelur.wordpress.com/the ... d-kashmir/

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Postby wig » 14 Jan 2020 11:47

Army Havildar slips in snow at Gulmarg, reaches Pakistan

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/i ... 2020-01-13
On January 8, Negi's wife Rajeshwari received a phone call from his unit, which said that Negi was missing.


The aggrieved family has demanded the government for his safe and early return from Pakistan to his homeland.

According to Army sources, the search and rescue operation of Negi was underway and all attempts were being made to bring him back safely from Pakistan.

Negi, a resident of Ambiwala Sainik Colony in Dehradun, had joined the 11 Garhwal Rifles regiment in 2002. He had arrived in Dehradun in October for a month's vacation and was posted to the snowy area of Gulmarg in November.

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Postby pankajs » 15 Jan 2020 14:16

https://twitter.com/JournalistJmu/statu ... 2502957056

Yogesh Sagotra @JournalistJmu

2G internet on post paid mobile phones restored in five districts of #Jammu including #Samba, #Kathua, #Reasi #Udhampur.

Thank to Anuradha Bhasin, Editor Kashmir Times, Newspaper, #JammuAndKashmir

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Postby Vikas » 15 Jan 2020 14:24

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/JournalistJmu/status/1217150062502957056

Yogesh Sagotra @JournalistJmu

2G internet on post paid mobile phones restored in five districts of #Jammu including #Samba, #Kathua, #Reasi #Udhampur.

Thank to Anuradha Bhasin, Editor Kashmir Times, Newspaper, #JammuAndKashmir


Interestingly all these districts were less impacted by Islamic terror compared to other districts and jumped with joy on abrogation of Art 370. Reasi is extremely beautiful and virgin in case anyone plans to visit J&K.

Mean-e-while I am surprised that a useless pro-separatist paper like KT is still in circulation despite no one except for govt depts. buying it.
English newspaper in J&K had most subscribers from KP community and they shunned this paper once it went green (thank you Ved Bhasin). The only reason some people still buy it to keep track of death-announcements.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Rsatchi » 15 Jan 2020 18:28

https://www.deccanherald.com/internatio ... 94820.html
Also posted in 202o strategic analysis thread!
But who in the hell is this UNSC member : Chini!!

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Postby pankajs » 15 Jan 2020 22:14

https://twitter.com/raghavohri0/status/ ... 5719407617
Raghav Ohri @raghavohri0

CBI constitues a team of 30 officers & launches a preliminary enquiry into the alleged violations of the Master Plan of Patnitop area (Jammu & Kashmir) by hotel owners/commercial establishment owners, in conspiracy with public servants serving at Patnitop Development Authority

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Postby Vikas » 15 Jan 2020 23:01

^^ Too late. Patnitop has lost all its value thanks to the new tunnel. RE at Patnitop is no longer is as desirable as it was earlier.

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Postby pankajs » 15 Jan 2020 23:49

^^
Does not matter. Opening investigation means to putting pressure on the creme de la creme of J&K un-civil society whose cooperation GOI still needs in hundreds of small ways to get J&K back on track.

This will at least provide a handle to a lot of powerful people in the state who have the potential to stir up trouble for GOI. See how after myriad cases were opened against hurryrats the protest calendar disappeared. Something along those very lines.

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Postby g.sarkar » 16 Jan 2020 00:19

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/arre ... 200114.htm
'Arrested J-K DSP took Rs 12 lakh to help terrorists'
Source: PTI - Hemant Waje, January 14, 2020
Suspended deputy superintendent of Jammu and Kashmir police Davinder Singh had ferried Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist Naveed Babu to Jammu last year also and facilitated his return to Shopian after "rest and recuperation", officials interrogating him said in Srinagar on Tuesday.
"Meri mati maari gayi thi (I must have lost my mind to do what I did)," an interrogator quoted Singh as saying after the DSP failed to impress them with his theory of catching a big terrorist.
Singh was arrested last Saturday along with Naveed Babu alias Babar Azam, a resident of Nazneenpora in South Kashmir's Shopian district, and his associate Asif Ahmad. He is believed to have taken Rs 12 lakh for smuggling the two to Chandigarh for providing them accommodation for a couple of months, officials said. The officials, who have been spending considerable time questioning Singh, said there have been many inconsistencies in his statements and everything was being crosschecked and corroborated with the confessions of captured terrorists who have been kept in different rooms at an interrogation centre in South Kashmir. During questioning it emerged that Singh had taken them to Jammu in 2019 also, the officials said.
In a tone laced with sarcasm, they said the DSP was taking the terrorists for "rest and recuperation". Naveed told the interrogators that they used to stay in the hilly regions to avoid the J&K police and left the areas to escape harsh winters, they said.
The official said the DSP's bank accounts and other assets were being verified by the police and papers were being collected, amid speculations that the case may be handed over to the National Investigation Agency. Going into the service history of Singh, majority of retired and serving officials of the JKP spoken to referred to a proverb -- coming events cast their shadows long before -- to say that if action had been taken against the officer during his probation period, such things would not have happened. Recruited in 1990 as a sub-inspector, Singh along with another probationary officer were subject of an internal enquiry where some narcotics had been seized from a truck. However, the contraband was sold by Singh and another sub-inspector, the officials recalled. There was a move to dismiss them from the service which was stalled by an Inspector General rank officer purely on humanitarian ground and the duo was shifted to the Special Operations Group, a team of policemen engaged in counter-militancy offensive.
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Postby Prem » 16 Jan 2020 00:52

China fails again in UNSC . First France and now Russia
https://twitter.com/Dpol_un/status/1217 ... 19488?s=20
UNSC discussed #Kashmir in closed consultations. Russia firmly stands for the normalisation of relations between #India and #Pakistan. We hope that differences between them will be settled through bilateral efforts based on the 1972 Simla Agreement and the 1999 Lahore Declaration

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Postby ramana » 16 Jan 2020 00:56

Gautam, Its complex like Dharma and ADharma.

There is a Telugu saying Everything white is not milk.

Same way I say Everything black is not poison.

And some times White looks Black
and often Black looks White.
So how to distinguish?

For this the sages said
Dharma is invariant with kaala (time), samayam (moment), and sandhrabham (context)

Right now kaala is not with Davinder Singh.
I on my part wont rush to judgment.

Members are free to make up their minds.

You were in law-enforcement.
And would have seen the background story.
An IG (IPS rank) intervening to save a probationary SI(state police)!!!

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Postby g.sarkar » 16 Jan 2020 07:57

Ramanaji,
I agree to what you say. But with time the story will be exposed to us. I am sure there is a lot that we do not know this case.
Gautam

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Postby Vikas » 16 Jan 2020 12:49

There are many in J&K with all the shades of Grey.
They like particles with duality and are in Indian camp as well the separatists camp and sometimes at the same time.
Anyways in stories of Insurgency and CI, Everyone is a suspect as well a potential mole.
Who knows who is being played and who is playing. I too will hold my judgement.

PS: I wonder if hill area around Patnitop was being used as safe houses for terrorists by some in agencies.

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Postby pankajs » 16 Jan 2020 20:36

Supposed to be an bona fide jurno from Kashmir

https://twitter.com/ahmedalifayyaz/stat ... 6907669505
Ahmed Ali Fayyaz @ahmedalifayyaz

● 1: Contrary to a many of my learned friends, I firmly believe that all these mainstream Kashmiri politicians in NC, PDP, PC etc will gradually reconcile to the fait accompli, delete 370 from their memory & seek role in the politics of 'competitive nationalism' of Modi-Shah.
2: Without touching the taboo (370), they will participate in electoral politics and demand 'restoration of Statehood', which is HM Amit Shah's Aug 5 promise, and 'bar of 15 year domicile to protect land and govt jobs for aborigines' which is the demand of Jammu and Ladakh.
● 3: I'm sure this time there will be no Sofi Akbar. They all will participate in the Modi-Shah model of politics because they know nobody in India would now listen to even the softest tone of a separatist narrative. That'll mark the end of self-destructive amphibian politics.
● 4: They didn't file habeas corpus petitions; didn't quit seats in Parliament, ULBs; are now seeking liaison with the power in Delhi. Notice that stone pelting, protests, #FreeKashmir azadi banners, Inquilaba-Intifada are now jingles of only BJP's opponents far away from Valley

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Postby mmasand » 16 Jan 2020 21:52

Vikas wrote:There are many in J&K with all the shades of Grey.
They like particles with duality and are in Indian camp as well the separatists camp and sometimes at the same time.
Anyways in stories of Insurgency and CI, Everyone is a suspect as well a potential mole.
Who knows who is being played and who is playing. I too will hold my judgement.

PS: I wonder if hill area around Patnitop was being used as safe houses for terrorists by some in agencies.


Please don't hold any judgement, no holds barred. I did point out on this thread in the weeks following the watering down of 370, several Dogras in Jammu were aghast at this decision. Conflict economies thrive on monopolies, I personally know of a 'middleman' who was procuring ammunition for J&K police, winter wear for state govt, cement for state govt infra, and even went onto be the first franchisee of McDonalds. The lobby was happy to create disruption on the street to voice their resentment, the fact that internet remains suspended in these regions is testament that the 'elite' in Jammu too benefited from the gravy train.

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Postby CRamS » 17 Jan 2020 02:50

Guys, I don't know which direction this Davinder Singh arrest will take, but certainly Pappu and his slaves are on a sinister path:

1. They are claiming that Davinder Singh was actually working at the behest of the 'deep state' of Indian govt.

2. In fact, they are claiming that his arrest was just 'accident'. Meaning that Davinder Singh was acting on the orders of India's 'deep state', but not everybody was aware of the plot and went awry when those police not in the plot found him :-). And he was going to orchestrate a terror attack in Delhi so that ModiJi can shift the narrative. This is coming straight out of a Bollywood/Hollywood cheap B-grade thriller :-). I mean if this is what an Indian opposition can accuse its own govt of, does it need any enemies?

3. They are claiming that Davinder Singh orchestrated the Pulwama attack. And why? Once again at the behest of ModiJI to win the LS elections. Once again letting TSP off the hook, and making India look like a banana republic.

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Postby Rishirishi » 17 Jan 2020 05:14

CRamS wrote:Guys, I don't know which direction this Davinder Singh arrest will take, but certainly Pappu and his slaves are on a sinister path:

1. They are claiming that Davinder Singh was actually working at the behest of the 'deep state' of Indian govt.

2. In fact, they are claiming that his arrest was just 'accident'. Meaning that Davinder Singh was acting on the orders of India's 'deep state', but not everybody was aware of the plot and went awry when those police not in the plot found him :-). And he was going to orchestrate a terror attack in Delhi so that ModiJi can shift the narrative. This is coming straight out of a Bollywood/Hollywood cheap B-grade thriller :-). I mean if this is what an Indian opposition can accuse its own govt of, does it need any enemies?

3. They are claiming that Davinder Singh orchestrated the Pulwama attack. And why? Once again at the behest of ModiJI to win the LS elections. Once again letting TSP off the hook, and making India look like a banana republic.


Source please

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Postby pankajs » 17 Jan 2020 09:56

CRamS wrote:Guys, I don't know which direction this Davinder Singh arrest will take, but certainly Pappu and his slaves are on a sinister path:

1. They are claiming that Davinder Singh was actually working at the behest of the 'deep state' of Indian govt.

2. In fact, they are claiming that his arrest was just 'accident'. Meaning that Davinder Singh was acting on the orders of India's 'deep state', but not everybody was aware of the plot and went awry when those police not in the plot found him :-). And he was going to orchestrate a terror attack in Delhi so that ModiJi can shift the narrative. This is coming straight out of a Bollywood/Hollywood cheap B-grade thriller :-). I mean if this is what an Indian opposition can accuse its own govt of, does it need any enemies?

3. They are claiming that Davinder Singh orchestrated the Pulwama attack. And why? Once again at the behest of ModiJI to win the LS elections. Once again letting TSP off the hook, and making India look like a banana republic.
Don't dhoti shiver.

All izz bhell.

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Postby Vikas » 17 Jan 2020 12:14

mmasand wrote:
Vikas wrote:There are many in J&K with all the shades of Grey.
They like particles with duality and are in Indian camp as well the separatists camp and sometimes at the same time.
Anyways in stories of Insurgency and CI, Everyone is a suspect as well a potential mole.
Who knows who is being played and who is playing. I too will hold my judgement.

PS: I wonder if hill area around Patnitop was being used as safe houses for terrorists by some in agencies.


Please don't hold any judgement, no holds barred. I did point out on this thread in the weeks following the watering down of 370, several Dogras in Jammu were aghast at this decision. Conflict economies thrive on monopolies, I personally know of a 'middleman' who was procuring ammunition for J&K police, winter wear for state govt, cement for state govt infra, and even went onto be the first franchisee of McDonalds. The lobby was happy to create disruption on the street to voice their resentment, the fact that internet remains suspended in these regions is testament that the 'elite' in Jammu too benefited from the gravy train.


What was brandished as Article 370 was brought in by Dogra King Maharaja Hari Singh way before 1947 happened on the demand of Dogras from Jammu who were concerned about Punjabi influx although I would doubt if todays Non-Muslims had any problem with abrogating Art 370. Everyone seems to be alright with the decision and are expecting next step of independent statehood for Jammu in few decades from now.

To be honest, Everyone was on the gravy train in J&K (except Ladakhis). Not for nothing, the state economy thrived despite almost nothing worthwhile happening economically.
Everyone who is a stakeholder in this conflict has made loads of money.

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Postby shravanp » 17 Jan 2020 22:36

My ideal vision for future -
1. Pandits resettled in Kashmir. For those who have already moved on and not feasible to return, their rights over the lands/properties they lost, must be recognized. They must get a fixed share of land, for which the Pandits can use it as vacation homes, make business out of it (if they so desire) like air bnb, or simply live there in case they want to move back.

2. All broken temples be reconstructed. Especially Martand Sun temple.

3. Any political aspirants should be subject to background check for their past affiliations prior to entering politics. On a side node, it is quite shocking that India provides easy access on public stage for any random guy on street to mouth of morality. To influence public at large, should be treated as privilege and that should be given only after thorough background check. Should prevent Mulayams, Laloos, Pawars, or Abdullahs type political leaches to come up.

4. Annex additional 10 miles of LoC on PoK side, to make it buffer zone

What else?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby chetak » 17 Jan 2020 22:37

twitter


Hilal Ahmed Rather, son of 3 time National conference MLA & ex Finance MINISTER Abdul Rahim Rather, diverted ₹177 crore in business loans from J&K Bank to build personal assets abroad, including an eight Bedroom villa on a Dubai Island.
Reason why they want special status back




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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Jan 2020 22:45

Russia's proposed constitution has some interesting provisions on who can be elected. Maybe worth a scan.

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J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Peregrine » 17 Jan 2020 23:05

Lukewarm response to Kashmir issue from international community, admits Imran Khan – ANI

BONN (GERMANY): Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Friday admitted that there are no takers of the Kashmir issue from the international community.

In an interview with DW, a German state owned public international broadcaster, Khan said that there has been a "lukewarm response" to the Kashmir issue and said that "commercial interests are more important for the Western countries".

"Unfortunately, commercial interests are more important for Western countries. India is a big market and that is the reason behind the lukewarm response to what is happening to some 8 million people in Kashmir, as well as to minorities in India," he said.

"Sadly, yes. Consider the sort of media attention the Hong Kong protests are getting. The tragedy of Kashmir is much greater," Khan told DW's Ines Pohl when asked whether the world is paying little attention to the Kashmir issue. Khan once again devoted a major part of his interview by raking up anti-India rhetorics and said that New Delhi did not respond to Pakistan's peace overtures because of what he called "RSS ideology"

Asked about the rise in tension between India and Pakistan after New Delhi revoked Article 370 for Jammu and Kashmir, Khan said: "I was the first leader to warn the world about what is happening in India. India has been taken over by an extremist ideology known as 'Hindutva.' It is the ideology of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS)."

"The RSS, a political organisation founded in 1925, was inspired by the German Nazis, and its founding fathers believed in racial supremacy. Just as the Nazi ideology was built on hatred for minorities, the RSS ideology is also based on hatred for Muslims and other minorities, including Christians," he continued.

"After I became prime minister, I made an effort to talk to the Indian government and Prime Minister Modi. In my first speech as prime minister, I said that if India moved one step forward, we would take two steps toward to resolve our differences. But I soon came to know that India did not respond well to my offer because of the RSS ideology," he stated.

Khan made the comments days after China and Pakistan held an informal closed door consultation on Kashmir in the UN Security Council in New York, more than five months after India abrogated the special status of Jammu and Kashmir granted under Article 370 of the Indian Constitution in August.

India's ministry of external affairs spokesperson Raveesh Kumar on Thursday said that the overwhelming majority of the UNSC believed that the world body was not the right forum to discuss the Kashmir issue.

"An effort was made by Pakistan through a member of UNSC to once again misuse the platform of UNSC. The overwhelming majority of UNSC was of the view that the UNSC was not the right forum for such issues and it should be discussed bilaterally between India and Pakistan," Kumar had said during the weekly press briefing in New Delhi.

"The formal closed-door meeting, therefore, ended without any outcome. In our view, it was once again highlighted Pakistan desperate measures to peddle baseless allegations and present an alarming scenario it lacks any credibility," the spokesperson said.

The UNSC's closed-door meeting was called to discuss an issue relating to an African country. China made a request to deliberate on the Kashmir issue under the agenda of "Any Other Business Points." No other UNSC member, barring China, commented on the meeting after it ended given that it was an informal consultation.

India has time and again made it clear that the Kashmir issue is a bilateral matter between India and Pakistan and there is no scope for third-party mediation.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 18 Jan 2020 13:39

https://twitter.com/ahmedalifayyaz/stat ... 2047475713
Ahmed Ali Fayyaz @ahmedalifayyaz

● Killings/injuries
● Militant attacks
● Stone pelting
● Recruitment of militants
● Infiltration of militants
● Threats/abuses on social media
● Complaints of human rights abuse

Lowest of the last 6 years in #Kashmir in the period 05-08-2019 to 05-01-2020. REASON?

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby pankajs » 19 Jan 2020 13:25

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1218544964029702145
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Syed Altaf Bukhari, Former J&K Finance Minister and PDP leader: No one died after the abrogation of Article 370 in J&K, for this the credit goes to the government as well as to the people of Jammu and Kashmir. I want to congratulate both of them.
A change of heart?

Just as Ahmed Ali Fayyaz, the Kashmir jurno had predicted "I firmly believe that all these mainstream Kashmiri politicians in NC, PDP, PC etc will gradually reconcile to the fait accompli, delete 370 from their memory & seek role in the politics of 'competitive nationalism' of Modi-Shah"

Seems like it!

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Yagnasri » 20 Jan 2020 16:49

From the statements they are making they want a similar status as that of the other hill states. Statehood with no outsider can buy land & no jobs to outsiders etc drama. 370 by another name. That drama will be the next one.

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby manjgu » 20 Jan 2020 18:32

How the he'll is jk a hill state ..90% of population is on flat ground !!

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Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

Postby Vikas » 20 Jan 2020 20:24

Can any state govt on its own stop outsiders from buying land or applying for Govt job ?
If yes, then denizens of the said state must not be allowed to own property anywhere in India or apply for any jobs outside their own state.


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