At least Russia is safe.Vodka on the other hand is a simple mixture of ethanol and water, a classic vodka composition is usually 40% alcohol(ethanol) by volume
UlanBatori wrote:Africa braces...
madhuji I wonder from the above whether a few "robust" ingestions of 65% ethanol will also be effective internally... (not kidding). Nothing else seems to work per the reports. Wonder why peroxide and chlorate are effective - the boogers prefer to attack the lungs after all, highest available oxygen concentration.
From web:At least Russia is safe.Vodka on the other hand is a simple mixture of ethanol and water, a classic vodka composition is usually 40% alcohol(ethanol) by volume
Yes, it is noted in other forums (economic ones) with all the empty city videos being shown of Cheen because of the virus. Japanese and Korean posters said even if you quarantined Seoul and Tokyo, they won't be this empty because the population is too dense. Cheen's cities are designed with a massive amount of space dedicated to public transportation, public institutions like libraries and museums (good propaganda tools), public recreational areas and most of all, ginormous public high rises for living quarters. Eleven million (Wuhan) or 20 million (Beijing) people can simply disappear into the infrastructure. The Japanese and Korean government can never afford to do the same because they need to pay fair prices for land. But in Cheen the government owns everything so they can actually plan.tandav wrote:Desolation aside, the infrastructure is top notch. Our citizens also deserve such public assets.
Yes, they will be filled with protestors, stone pelters, bus burners and train derailers.The problems that Japan and Korea face vis a vis Cheen is a thousand times worse in India. Seriously, if we were to quarantine Mumbai or Chennai then the streets would still be full of people. Desis wouldn't listen to start off with but the density per square area really makes it hard to separate people.
I think it is more accurate to say 'our citizens deserve the leaders they elect'. Come election time, gyaani BRF posters revel in their deep knowledge of castes and their voting patterns (UP, Bihar, Karnataka, A.P., MP, MAharashtra- you name it) and who they might vote for, and what Amit Shah should do to woo these castes. I am totally lost reading them. Then you have people voting for free electricity and water (Kejriwal). Infrastructure money and land allocations are the primary targets for these caste-based politicians. ALready there is news of Uddhav giving Sharad Pawar prime land for some 'public good' at a price that even I can afford. Good infrastructure for deserving citizens aint happenin' anytime soon. Sorry for the OT.tandav wrote:Desolation aside, the infrastructure is top notch. Our citizens also deserve such public assets.
).No 'ji for me, saar. In an anonymous internet forum, I dont use and do not expect any honorifics. That Shanghai video was a find, manchola wrote:^^^ True, Kumar ji. There are many democracies in the world with better infrastructure than Cheen. But not only do they elect responsible leaders in places like Germany and Scandinavia, the voters there also take responsibilities for that good infrastructure by paying some of the highest tax rates in the world. They know nothing is free and is willing to fund good infrastructure for the society as a whole instead of selfish perks for individual constituencies.
. I looked for it but could not locate anything like it, only suspecting that Shanghai would have problems too. Shocking to see 2 large cities- one way north and one way south, in the same (apocalyptic) boat. Very surprised to see these videos actually making it out of Cheen. THe million $ question is: how will they declare that it is safe to come out again. Might take months.madhu wrote:Something is not adding up. How can a flu virus with just 2% kill ratio create so much panic that it has locked full country. Why so much of cleaning and spraying. Did they do it for SARS in 2003?
There are many videos where people just collapse on road. How can that happen even assuming the virus is deadly? If one or two then I would say its a crazy video to fool people but there are quite a few.
Where is china president? He has not issued any statement nor a tweet. More confusion than answers.
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“Sulfur dioxide gas in Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matters”. What are they burning? #coronavirus #coronavirusoutbreak #wuhan
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This is from 4chins so take this with a grain of salt, but one poster extrapolated from the SO2 release data and estimated 14,000 bodies would have to be burnt to reach this level of emissions.
According to WHO, cronovirus survives in hot and humid weather . I don't think change in weather will bring any respite.Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
Right now the infection and especially the death rate outside Cheen is extremely low. The last thing we need is panic and economic contagion spreading outside Cheen. Without panic, we can sit back and watch a horror movie developing in Cheen. With panic and economic activities shut down in country after country for fear of virus spread and we will have 2008 all over.Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?
Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?
ldev wrote:madhu wrote:Something is not adding up. How can a flu virus with just 2% kill ratio create so much panic that it has locked full country. Why so much of cleaning and spraying. Did they do it for SARS in 2003?
There are many videos where people just collapse on road. How can that happen even assuming the virus is deadly? If one or two then I would say its a crazy video to fool people but there are quite a few.
Where is china president? He has not issued any statement nor a tweet. More confusion than answers.
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@inteldotwav
This is from 4chins so take this with a grain of salt, but one poster extrapolated from the SO2 release data and estimated 14,000 bodies would have to be burnt to reach this level of emissions.
chola wrote:Right now the infection and especially the death rate outside Cheen is extremely low. The last thing we need is panic and economic contagion spreading outside Cheen. Without panic, we can sit back and watch a horror movie developing in Cheen. With panic and economic activities shut down in country after country for fear of virus spread and we will have 2008 all over.Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?
Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?
sanjaykumar wrote:ARB block the angiotensin receptor on endothelial cells, not ACE receptors.
Arun.prabhu wrote:And there I was congratulating myself on a nice little piece of research.
sanjaykumar wrote:ARB block the angiotensin receptor on endothelial cells, not ACE receptors.
sampat wrote:According to WHO, cronovirus survives in hot and humid weather . I don't think change in weather will bring any respite.Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
This theory pre-supposes that dead bodies were burnt every day but animals were stockpiled, all in the panic and confusion of the outbreak. What does not help the official narrative is the release of the following official data showing deaths/infections:sanjaykumar wrote: -In an epidemic it is ridiculous to stockpile bodies before incineration, the idea is to destroy the virus as soon as possible, good hygiene would be to incinerate as soon as possible.
-it could be stockpiles of dead animals, those left without food due to disruption in the food supply or unavailability of staff to feed them.
Wow!! 2.1% every single day.....amazing coincidence....22
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#coronavirus is master of math!
1/30: 170/7821 = 2,1%,
1/31: 213/9800 = 2,1%,
2/01: 259/11880 = 2,1%,
2/02: 304/14401 = 2,1%,
2/03: 361/17238 = 2,1%,
2/04: 429/20471 = 2,1%,
2/05: 493/24441 = 2,1%
2/06: 564/28605 = 2,1%
Right now: 724/34677 AGAIN = 2,1%...
sanjaykumar wrote:Arun.prabhu wrote:And there I was congratulating myself on a nice little piece of research.
No problem, at least you are exploring.
Match Fixingldev wrote:This theory pre-supposes that dead bodies were burnt every day but animals were stockpiled, all in the panic and confusion of the outbreak. What does not help the official narrative is the release of the following official data showing deaths/infections:sanjaykumar wrote: -In an epidemic it is ridiculous to stockpile bodies before incineration, the idea is to destroy the virus as soon as possible, good hygiene would be to incinerate as soon as possible.
-it could be stockpiles of dead animals, those left without food due to disruption in the food supply or unavailability of staff to feed them.
Wow!! 2.1% every single day.....amazing coincidence....22
@Charlie_Box
· Feb 8
#coronavirus is master of math!
1/30: 170/7821 = 2,1%,
1/31: 213/9800 = 2,1%,
2/01: 259/11880 = 2,1%,
2/02: 304/14401 = 2,1%,
2/03: 361/17238 = 2,1%,
2/04: 429/20471 = 2,1%,
2/05: 493/24441 = 2,1%
2/06: 564/28605 = 2,1%
Right now: 724/34677 AGAIN = 2,1%...
Obviously bogus "data". Deserted streets in daytime may have been taken on CNY.. unless they have holidays on Snow Days. Isn't it strange that video was taken (2 ppl walking one behind the other) with no hindrance, though no one else is seen? Where are the soldiers in Mao jackets holding AK47s? I think this is all hype. Then again, strange that Eleven has not declared victory YET.Wow!! 2.1% every single day.....amazing coincidence....
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Chinese diplomat pushes back against coronavirus ‘rumours’ from Republican Party senator
Ambassador Cui Tiankai slammed comments from Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton
This story is published in a content partnership with POLITICO. It was originally reported by David Beavers on politico.com
on February 9, 2020.
Chinese Ambassador to the US Cui Tiankai on Sunday pushed back on what he called “suspicion” and “rumours” about the origins of the Wuhan coronavirus. In an interview with CBS’ Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation, Cui acknowledged that “a lot is still unknown, and our scientists, Chinese scientist, American scientists, scientists of other countries are doing their best to learn more about the virus.”
But when asked about comments made last week by Senator Tom Cotton – who, according to Brennan, suggested the virus may have come from China’s biological warfare program – Cui did not mince words.
“It's very harmful, it’s very dangerous to stir up suspicion, rumours and spread them among the people,” he said Sunday. “For one thing, this will create panic. Another thing is that it will fan up racial discrimination, xenophobia, all these things that will really harm our joint efforts to combat the virus.”
After the show aired Sunday, Cotton took to Twitter to defend himself.
“.@ambcuitianki
, here’s what’s not a conspiracy, not a theory: Fact: China lied about virus starting in Wuhan food market,” the Arkansas Republican wrote in one post.
.@ambcuitianki
, here’s what’s not a conspiracy, not a theory:
Cotton added in a second post: “Fact: super-lab is just a few miles from that market[.] Where did it start? We don’t know. But burden of proof is on you & fellow communists. Open up now to competent international scientists,” seemingly referencing a laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The Chinese diplomat also defended China’s treatment of Li Wenliang, a doctor who alerted authorities about the outbreak. He was scolded and silenced by police and has since succumbed to the disease himself.
“We are all very saddened about the death of Dr Li. He was a good doctor. He was a devoted doctor, and he did his best to protect people’s health. We are so grateful to him,” Cui said. “I don't know who tried to silence him, but there was certainly a disagreement or people were not able to reach agreement on what exactly the virus is, how it is affecting people.”
“Maybe some people reacted not quickly enough. Maybe Dr. Li, he perceived some incoming dangers earlier than others, but this could happen anywhere, but whenever we find there's some shortcoming, we’ll do our best to correct it,” he added.
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Police confiscate mahjong tiles as they enforce the order that people refrain from playing. Photo: WeiboPolice confiscate mahjong tiles as they enforce the order that people refrain from playing. Photo: Weibo
Authorities from China have been dealing with some unusual challenges in enforcing coronavirus
containment, including mahjong addicts who refuse to give up the game and rumours featuring a talking pig.
To contain the spread of the virus, Chinese authorities have locked down Hubei province, which has about 60 million residents. Throughout the country, the public has been discouraged from going outside or attending gatherings. Several cities have introduced rules such as compulsory wearing of masks at all times in public spaces.
However, not everyone has been following the rules.
Mahjong is a popular card-like game played with tiles and each game requires four people. Police in cities in least three provinces have had to break up mahjong parlours and confiscate tiles from residents in the past two weeks, according to media reports.
Coronavirus: Police in China smash mahjong tables to stop villagers from gathering
On Thursday, the health commission in the eastern province of Zhejiang said a county in Quzhou had recorded locally transmitted cases linked to playing mahjong. As a result, officials from Jiuhua county confiscated more than 600 mahjong tiles from residents, removing selected tiles from each set.
“In rural places, it’s normal to play mahjong over Lunar New Year,” county official Zheng Shihua said in a report by online platform Pear Video. “But we’ve been telling them to stop. Some listened and some didn’t. There are always a couple of households that hide from us.”
The tiles would be returned to residents after the outbreak was over, he said.
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Elsewhere, a video posted online showed police in Maanshan in Anhui province, neighbouring Zhejiang, taking hammers to mahjong tables, sending tiles flying.
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Police destroyed 16 mahjong tables after inspecting about 40 households in the operation on January 28, Maanshan Daily reported.
The authorities have also had to debunk rumours that have sprung up during the outbreak, some veering towards the absurd.
A rumour that emerged on February 5, about a talking pig, went viral in the southern province of Guizhou. The rumour was that a pig had spoken to its owner and told them cooking and eating nine eggs before sunrise would prevent them contracting the coronavirus, Guizhou Metropolis Daily reported.
Many people apparently believed the rumour and shared photos of themselves cooking eggs on social media, according to the report.
On the same day, police tracked down the woman blamed for starting the rumour. According to a statement by the police, she had sent the misinformation after reading that eating eggs could strengthen the immune system, and was detained for 10 days as a punishment.
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Our expert of everything in the White House seems to think so but experts are not so sure.Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?
Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?
China has clearly failed to contain the infection, and it now dominates the news. How true is this? It would make no sense for the Wuhan biolab to target chinese DNA and not goras' since their top rival is white-majority.Rahul M wrote:The blog linked above mentioned that the novcor strain was engineered to target something called ACE2 receptors, which is primarily found in Chinese DNA.