2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 18 Feb 2020 23:53

This makes for a GREAT cartoon of someone being Mankaded . The uber leftist type is outside the crease reaching for Ganesha idol with only bat within secularism crease, with Islamist type bowler ready to knock the bails off once bat leaves crease. Hopefully Kureel can do justice to this.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 00:06

eee Ka hui gawa! election to khatam ba.

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1229712950060929024

ANI @ANI

Greater Kailash AAP MLA Saurabh Bhardwaj: Recitation of Ramayana's Sunder Kanda will be held in different areas (of his constituency) on first Tuesday of every month to take blessings of Lord Hanuman. We've received advanced booking as well as sponsors for the programmes. #Delhi

AAP is painting Delhi Saffron! Theek hai.

#ModiHaiToMumkinHai

Here is the original twitter invite
https://twitter.com/Saurabh_MLAgk/statu ... 1713262594

Saurabh Bharadwaj @Saurabh_MLAgk

हर महीने के पहले मंगलवार को सुन्दर कांड का पाठ अलग अलग इलाकों में किया जाएगा।

निमंत्रण- सुन्दर काण्ड
शाम 4:30 बजे
18 फरवरी, मंगलवार
प्राचीन शिव मंदिर, चिराग दिल्ली

(निकट चिराग दिल्ली मेट्रो स्टेशन गेट नo1)

Lot of laughs on the TL. nJay!

A lot of sickular and peaceful feeling are being hurt ..
https://twitter.com/pradeepmagazine/sta ... 1962408960

Pradeep Magazine @pradeepmagazine

This is not the job of a legislature in a secular nation. Leave religion out of your politics please.

https://twitter.com/Subhashitani1/statu ... hashitani1
"Are we taking the Hanuman Chalisa thing too far?"

AAP spokesperson: No, no... Let's do a whole kaand... Or do it multiple times in different areas. [/quote] https://twitter.com/Anweshahaha/status/ ... te]Anwesha Bhagat @Anweshahaha

What have this party started??? Seriously @AamAadmiParty
this is not acceptable![/quote] https://twitter.com/gufy0007/status/122 ... quote]Gufy @gufy0007

Ek secular country me ek elected representative ka post.. isn't religion a private matter?
@itnalogicc[/quote] https://twitter.com/RaviLive_/status/12 ... quote]Ravi @RaviLive_

Typical educated UC idiot. Education can't change a UC's retarded brain.[/quote] https://twitter.com/bombaywallah/status ... e]Sidharth Bhatia @bombaywallah {Verified handle - Liar.in founder???}

A recently elected AAP MLA. Hanuman seems to be the party's mascot[/quote] https://twitter.com/dyoungbigmouth/stat ... 4[quote]Om Routray @dyoungbigmouth

You just won an election on bijli pani! Disappointing[/quote] https://twitter.com/Muzaik_281/status/1 ... e]Muzakkir @Muzaik_281

Thanks @ArvindKejriwal for following bjp model... Grt as expected we can't have a secular party in India.. Isn't it....???

Not expected this from @AAPDelhi[/quote]

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 19 Feb 2020 00:13

So, when the Left is Right, who is left ?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 19 Feb 2020 00:35

The 'anti-Hindu' Hindus (Congress, AAP, TMC , Commies etc) new strategy is to do Hindu rituals while they politically appease Muslims and Christians. Muslims and Christians will get political, Constitutional and State benefits at the expense of Hindus while gullible Hindus will be shown these rituals.

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 19 Feb 2020 00:39

Rony wrote:The 'anti-Hindu' Hindus (Congress, AAP, TMC , Commies etc) new strategy is to do Hindu rituals while they politically screw them and appease Muslims and Christians. Muslims and Christians will get political, Constitutional and State benefits at the expense of Hindus while gullible Hindus will be shown these rituals.

It's up to Hindu vigilantes or vigilante groups to highlight any such discrepancy. That's how the other groups do it. A healthy dose of "Sanatan Dharm khatre mein he" will do wonders.

Suraj wrote: ...who is left?

And who is right (or wrong)?

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 19 Feb 2020 00:57

Hard-hitting albeit noisy Timesnow debate..Rakesh Maria's book reveals the background of Pakistan's devious plan:

"If all had gone well, Ajmal Kasab would've been found dead with a saffron thread on his wrist.. he would've been ID-ed as Samir Dinesh Chaudary of Arunodaya College, Hyderabad and resident of Bengaluru...."

If not for constable Tukaram Omble, this would've been the narrative.

As someone mentioned in the comments section - 26/11 was likely a Congress plan, executed by ISI...

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 19 Feb 2020 00:59

Rony wrote:The 'anti-Hindu' Hindus (Congress, AAP, TMC , Commies etc) new strategy is to do Hindu rituals while they politically appease Muslims and Christians. Muslims and Christians will get political, Constitutional and State benefits at the expense of Hindus while gullible Hindus will be shown these rituals.

The easiest way to make their lives hard is... to embrace them tightly. Claim they are the 'new en-mo right', claim they're the embodiment of all that the communals are - and 'one of us'. Compel them to back Hindu causes to prove their Hinduness, and in the process make them face pressure to back non-Hindu causes to prove 'secularism'. Like that brilliant teetar post asking 'cmon is all that Hanuman stuff necessary ? The election is over. Back to being secular'

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 19 Feb 2020 01:11

Guys, wish I had saved it, but recall, in the immediate aftermath of 26/11, when TSP PR machine went into full gear, I recall to sinister attempts internationally to pin this on Hindus:

1. The Financial Times rag had on its headlines that the attackers wore saffron and wrist bands worn by Hindus

2. CNN international at that time had some Paki reporter, I believe his name was Reza something. He was repeating the same carp but with the additional caveat that goras routines allege, namely, even without any evidence, India blames Paki ISI.

3. Within about a week or so, immediately the focus on CNN, BBC, NPR, NYT, WP etc started spinning another narrative, namely the 'non state actor' garbage, and why India and TSP must "jointly' cooperate to bring the perpetrators to justice. Hajam Sethi type RAPE and our own bloody RAPE scum (bloody b@stards, hope they rot in hell) were pushing this line.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 19 Feb 2020 01:14

Oh you missed out the unidentified gunmen from BBC or FT....

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 19 Feb 2020 01:16

CRamS wrote:Guys, wish I had saved it, but recall, in the immediate aftermath of 26/11, when TSP PR machine went into full gear, I recall to sinister attempts internationally to pin this on Hindus:

I too distinctly remember the spin from some news reports but I cannot recall which news paper/channel was that. There were more than a couple of days during those dreadful weeks where news reports wanted to spin this as Hindu Terror but if I remember, the public out lash and blow back was just too much.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 19 Feb 2020 01:22

oh yes..and how can you miss legendary red cap zaid hamid..that was the first time i saw him...

shravanp · Post by **shravanp** » 19 Feb 2020 01:44

Suraj wrote:So, when the Left is Right, who is left ?

nice spin

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 19 Feb 2020 01:49

CRamS wrote:Guys, wish I had saved it, but recall, in the immediate aftermath of 26/11, when TSP PR machine went into full gear, I recall to sinister attempts internationally to pin this on Hindus:

1. The Financial Times rag had on its headlines that the attackers wore saffron and wrist bands worn by Hindus

2. CNN international at that time had some Paki reporter, I believe his name was Reza something. He was repeating the same carp but with the additional caveat that goras routines allege, namely, even without any evidence, India blames Paki ISI.

3. Within about a week or so, immediately the focus on CNN, BBC, NPR, NYT, WP etc started spinning another narrative, namely the 'non state actor' garbage, and why India and TSP must "jointly' cooperate to bring the perpetrators to justice. Hajam Sethi type RAPE and our own bloody RAPE scum (bloody b@stards, hope they rot in hell) were pushing this line.

Hala Gorani on CNN started spinning theories that hindu terrorists were the likely perpetrator.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 19 Feb 2020 02:11

Moral of the story guys: Indian govt must and should do what it takes to seek support from gora international community and Japan (China is a gone case, they are part of TSP directly arrayed against India) to help India contain Paki terror machine directed against India. But make no mistake, India has no genuine friends among this elite group when it comes to TSP. We are on our own. They may not be as brazen as TSP and our RAPE scum, but in their eyes it is India TSP equal equal or given that it is TSP that benefits from this equal equal despite their evil machinations, it is TSP >> India.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 19 Feb 2020 02:35

And who is right (or wrong)?

Doesn't matter unless the political establishment weans away (more like get them out of the way) genuine left, Sikhs, such communities, middle class or fence sitters and such before it's too late and taqiya etc not needed anymore however long it takes.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 Feb 2020 05:57

OmkarC wrote:

Hard-hitting albeit noisy Timesnow debate..Rakesh Maria's book reveals the background of Pakistan's devious plan:

"If all had gone well, Ajmal Kasab would've been found dead with a saffron thread on his wrist.. he would've been ID-ed as Samir Dinesh Chaudary of Arunodaya College, Hyderabad and resident of Bengaluru...."

If not for constable Tukaram Omble, this would've been the narrative.

As someone mentioned in the comments section - 26/11 was likely a Congress plan, executed by ISI...

This begs the question why was P. Chidamabaram spouting Saffron Terror, Doggy Singh releasing books on RSS etc.

i think this Rakesh Maria books is a cover for rehabilitating UPA.

The plan was always Congress outsourced to ISI for execution.
And could even have a sinister background.

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 19 Feb 2020 08:37

I get this uneasy feeling deep down that this is make or break time for India. We are slowly getting priced out of foreign defense items - their tech is reaching a level where they may not allow exports even! We need to grow to 5T and build up domestic industry like there is no tomorrow. Beyond 2030, if we are not there - I am not sure we will be secure.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 19 Feb 2020 09:02

^^ ramana:
This whole new Dramatic Book Revelation raises some questions:
1. OK so Kasab was wearing a red string on his hand, and had some fake ID. But would that have convinced anyone that he was yindoo? Among other things unless his mijile got fried in a blast...
2. So the **ONLY* way a Hindu Terror narrative could have got mileage is via the Maharashtra State Govt who controlled the local polis.
3. Their Big Guy was killed early in the attack, IIRC - perhaps to get him out of the picture?
4. At the same time the Samjhauta Express trauma was going on with the Colonel, and Saddhwi being tortured.

If any of the above is true, MAD needs to make some arrests soon, hain?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 09:21

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 19 Feb 2020 09:29

THe part about planting Kasab's identity as some student DInesh ABC from Arunodaya College in Hyderabad or Hyattabad does not make much sense. Police would follow up and investigate the ARunodaya college friends and his class teachers, and his hostel mates and neighbors; and no one would recognize his photo or the name or be able to say anything about Dinesh. If indeed there is a student by that name in that college, he would look different, and is probably still alive. Dinesh Chaudhari would have no parents or uncles or aunts or cousins either to show in Hyderabad or Bangalore. O

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 09:33

CRamS wrote:Moral of the story guys: Indian govt must and should do what it takes to seek support from gora international community and Japan (China is a gone case, they are part of TSP directly arrayed against India) to help India contain Paki terror machine directed against India. But make no mistake, India has no genuine friends among this elite group when it comes to TSP. We are on our own. They may not be as brazen as TSP and our RAPE scum, but in their eyes it is India TSP equal equal or given that it is TSP that benefits from this equal equal despite their evil machinations, it is TSP >> India.

1. "We are on our own" AND NOOO one is going to "Help India contain Baki terror". There should be no confusion.
2. As the Americans say "There are no permanent enemies, and no permanent friends, only permanent interests". That is a given.
3. "TSP == / >> India" in only when Indians buy it, otherwise there is none! Basic confusion.

If we are confused on the above, our analysis/understanding of foreign relationship will be confused and our prescription/solution will be only let us down.

It is amazing how some folks keep going back to the same discredited "analysis/understanding" over and over again over years. If one where to scan back to check the member who's understanding of India and Baki's relative position in the scheme of global opinion is "India == TSP", one name will stand out consistently.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 09:42

SriKumar wrote:THe part about planting Kasab's identity as some student DInesh ABC from Arunodaya College in Hyderabad or Hyattabad does not make much sense. Police would follow up and investigate the ARunodaya college friends and his class teachers, and his hostel mates and neighbors; and no one would recognize his photo or the name or be able to say anything about Dinesh. If indeed there is a student by that name in that college, he would look different, and is probably still alive. Dinesh Chaudhari would have no parents or uncles or aunts or cousins either to show in Hyderabad or Bangalore. O

By the time Police verified the information, the global narrative would have been set. Even today Modi is responsible for Godhra and is a facist/Hitler is a global narrative built on non-existent evidence and narrative.

Mark Twain is supposed to have remarked "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." and that has been observed to be true.

Do not underestimate the power of narrative. Gargi college episode it the latest example.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 09:48

https://twitter.com/NavroopSingh_/statu ... 5934176259

Navroop Singh @NavroopSingh_

Now every opposition party will take to Soft Hindutva except the Italian Congress to present itself as a soft alternative to BJP/Sangh's strident Hindutva. BJP needs to upgrade its play now. Bring in UCC for equality for all & dilute 93rd Const Amendment for equality in education

Call the bluff of these chameleon presenting to hoodwink the Hindus while co-opting the peacefuls. Time to bring in the legislations to undo discrimination on basis of religion in constitution & law. Why preferential treatment for particular minorities. Equality for all.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Feb 2020 09:52

pankajs wrote:
SriKumar wrote:THe part about planting Kasab's identity as some student DInesh ABC from Arunodaya College in Hyderabad or Hyattabad does not make much sense. Police would follow up and investigate the ARunodaya college friends and his class teachers, and his hostel mates and neighbors; and no one would recognize his photo or the name or be able to say anything about Dinesh. If indeed there is a student by that name in that college, he would look different, and is probably still alive. Dinesh Chaudhari would have no parents or uncles or aunts or cousins either to show in Hyderabad or Bangalore. O
By the time Police verified the information, the global narrative would have been set. Even today Modi is responsible for Godhra and is a facist/Hitler is a global narrative built on non-existent evidence and narrative.

Mark Twain is supposed to have remarked "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." and that has been observed to be true.

Do not underestimate the power of narrative. Gargi college episode it the latest example.

or the rohit vemula narrative.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 19 Feb 2020 09:57

I think it is not right to compare this with the Modi situation. The information on the fake ID was precise. With precise information, it is not easy to fake stuff, or atleast, it is easy to prove wrong.

Imagine if the ID was from a college in Delhi...(or whichever town you live in, in India). All of Delhi (Students, teachers, aam nagriks alike) would have descended on the college, literally , to find out who was friends with this guy.....and thrashed the daylights out of anyone who knew him even casually. His relatives would probably be hounded day in and out...except that there would be no relatives in this case. The narrative was being set was primarily in India (With the saffron terror nonsense being pushed by some politicians). I dont know....if this is real, it smacks of a super low IQ operation by ISI. The obfuscation would have lasted a few weeks at the most. The truth would have come out in a month or so, and then all in India who supported the carnard would have been exposed. Did any of the rest of the terrorists have such IDs? If they did, I hope that is exposed too. I am missing something here.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Feb 2020 10:21

One of the terrorists called India TV and pretended to be from Deccan of Indian Hyderabad. Here is the link :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG-kSyepd8

26-11 terrorist Fahadulla's PhoneIn.wmv

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Feb 2020 10:32

SriKumar wrote:THe part about planting Kasab's identity as some student DInesh ABC from Arunodaya College in Hyderabad or Hyattabad does not make much sense. Police would follow up and investigate the ARunodaya college friends and his class teachers, and his hostel mates and neighbors; and no one would recognize his photo or the name or be able to say anything about Dinesh. If indeed there is a student by that name in that college, he would look different, and is probably still alive. Dinesh Chaudhari would have no parents or uncles or aunts or cousins either to show in Hyderabad or Bangalore. O

That will take 10-15 days, by that time world would have buried BJP.

Can you tell me how many wombs were cut open in Gujarat riots?? But thats what the world believes.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 19 Feb 2020 10:33

chetak wrote:One of the terrorists called India TV and pretended to be from Deccan of Indian Hyderabad. Here is the link :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsG-kSyepd8

26-11 terrorist Fahadulla's PhoneIn.wmv

Acknowledged. This terrorist did try to portray himself as an Indian from Hyderabad (although he seemed to be advocating for Muslim causes).

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 19 Feb 2020 10:37

SriKumar wrote:THe part about planting Kasab's identity as some student DInesh ABC from Arunodaya College in Hyderabad or Hyattabad does not make much sense. Police would follow up and investigate the ARunodaya college friends and his class teachers, and his hostel mates and neighbors; and no one would recognize his photo or the name or be able to say anything about Dinesh. If indeed there is a student by that name in that college, he would look different, and is probably still alive. Dinesh Chaudhari would have no parents or uncles or aunts or cousins either to show in Hyderabad or Bangalore. O

OTOH we are talking about Pakis here. If you watch Paki TV, their senior security analysts are still talking about a conspiracy theory based book by Elias Davidson (who is a 911 denier, among other things) as 'proof' that 26/11 was a false flag operation by India. After wallowing in so much bullshit, its hard not to start imbibing some of it.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 19 Feb 2020 10:40

Aditya_V wrote:
SriKumar wrote:THe part about planting Kasab's identity as some student DInesh ABC from Arunodaya College in Hyderabad or Hyattabad does not make much sense. Police would follow up and investigate the ARunodaya college friends and his class teachers, and his hostel mates and neighbors; and no one would recognize his photo or the name or be able to say anything about Dinesh. If indeed there is a student by that name in that college, he would look different, and is probably still alive. Dinesh Chaudhari would have no parents or uncles or aunts or cousins either to show in Hyderabad or Bangalore. O
That will take 10-15 days, by that time world would have buried BJP.

Can you tell me how many wombs were cut open in Gujarat riots?? But thats what the world believes.

The world does not vote in Indian elections. How many Indians believe the womb story? As I mentioned earlier, the Modi analogy is not apt here.
(In any case, Congress and MMS was re-elected after 26-11 including in Maharashtra, which puzzles me to this day).

Added later: Responding to BArt's comment- yes, PAkistani TV analysts and their pronouncements are sometimes batsh*t crazy and look like they live in a parallel universe.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 10:50

SriKumar wrote:I think it is not right to compare this with the Modi situation. The information on the fake ID was precise. With precise information, it is not easy to fake stuff, or atleast, it is easy to prove wrong.

Imagine if the ID was from a college in Delhi...(or whichever town you live in, in India). All of Delhi (Students, teachers, aam nagriks alike) would have descended on the college, literally , to find out who was friends with this guy.....and thrashed the daylights out of anyone who knew him even casually. His relatives would probably be hounded day in and out...except that there would be no relatives in this case. The narrative was being set was primarily in India (With the saffron terror nonsense being pushed by some politicians). I dont know....if this is real, it smacks of a super low IQ operation by ISI. The obfuscation would have lasted a few weeks at the most. The truth would have come out in a month or so, and then all in India who supported the carnard would have been exposed. Did any of the rest of the terrorists have such IDs? If they did, I hope that is exposed too. I am missing something here.

You seem to be ignoring some very basic glaring facts ...

1. Maharashtra ATS framed Col. Purohit. By then, M-ATS at least was already part of the CON dirty tricks department.
2. M-ATS head Karkare (IIRC), was in constant contact with Dogvijay Singh.
3. Dogvijay Singh launched the book, "26/11 RSS Sazish" or some such stuff.

Now, who would investigate the fake ID in such an important terror case? Why, M-ATS of course that had already been converted into the CON dirty trick department.

There was no way M-ATS was going to do a fact-check that cleared the Hindus. They would have either concocted another col. Purohit type of hit job or delayed the truth sufficiently or just sat on the evidence let the truth get mauled by falsehood.

By the time "independent" media / other got hold of the fact and went about discrediting the M-ATS shenanigans, even if it was possible, the falsehood would already have taken firm roots all over the world, helped in no small measure by our own media, activist and liberandus just like in 2002.

Facts are too ominously aligned to ignore.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 19 Feb 2020 11:03

All very plausible but go easy on the hyperbole about seemingly ignoring part.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 19 Feb 2020 11:13

Could be true but I find it hard to believe that 26/11 was a congress job outsourced to ISI unless congress had a death wish or were double crossing Pakis. Every fool knows that pulling something off like this and blaming it on Hindu terror was a long shot. With so many horny terrorists on the lose on 26th, Some incompetent terrorist was always on the brink of getting captured and spilling the beans. Indian security may have been caught with its pants down on that fateful day but Pakis getting away with slaughter like this was never plausible.

Moreover with elections less than a year away, an event like 26/11 with no military response could have dug fatal grave for congress once the secret was out.
Who could have predicted that congress still would storm back to power in 2009 after 26/11 with only dossiers and Robot singh's sigh.

prasan · Post by **prasan** » 19 Feb 2020 11:29

pankajs wrote:
SriKumar wrote:I think it is not right to compare this with the Modi situation. The information on the fake ID was precise. With precise information, it is not easy to fake stuff, or atleast, it is easy to prove wrong.

Imagine if the ID was from a college in Delhi...(or whichever town you live in, in India). All of Delhi (Students, teachers, aam nagriks alike) would have descended on the college, literally , to find out who was friends with this guy.....and thrashed the daylights out of anyone who knew him even casually. His relatives would probably be hounded day in and out...except that there would be no relatives in this case. The narrative was being set was primarily in India (With the saffron terror nonsense being pushed by some politicians). I dont know....if this is real, it smacks of a super low IQ operation by ISI. The obfuscation would have lasted a few weeks at the most. The truth would have come out in a month or so, and then all in India who supported the carnard would have been exposed. Did any of the rest of the terrorists have such IDs? If they did, I hope that is exposed too. I am missing something here.
You seem to be ignoring some very basic glaring facts ...

1. Maharashtra ATS framed Col. Purohit. By then, M-ATS at least was already part of the CON dirty tricks department.
2. M-ATS head Karkare (IIRC), was in constant contact with Dogvijay Singh.
3. Dogvijay Singh launched the book, "26/11 RSS Sazish" or some such stuff.

Now, who would investigate the fake ID in such an important terror case? Why, M-ATS of course that had already been converted into the CON dirty trick department.

There was no way M-ATS was going to do a fact-check that cleared the Hindus. They would have either concocted another col. Purohit type of hit job or delayed the truth sufficiently or just sat on the evidence let the truth get mauled by falsehood.

By the time "independent" media / other got hold of the fact and went about discrediting the M-ATS shenanigans, even if it was possible, the falsehood would already have taken firm roots all over the world, helped in no small measure by our own media, activist and liberandus just like in 2002.

Facts are too ominously aligned to ignore.

Thats True.
One can try proving CAA, triple talaq is not against Indian muslim but will fail in front of massive confusion created by media, youtube, twitter, facebook.
Center should ban all state ATS. And give it to some new agency consisting of Army+NIA. Then it cant be used by congi regimes against Hindus.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Feb 2020 11:43

Vikas wrote:Could be true but I find it hard to believe that 26/11 was a congress job outsourced to ISI unless congress had a death wish or were double crossing Pakis. Every fool knows that pulling something off like this and blaming it on Hindu terror was a long shot. With so many horny terrorists on the lose on 26th, Some incompetent terrorist was always on the brink of getting captured and spilling the beans. Indian security may have been caught with its pants down on that fateful day but Pakis getting away with slaughter like this was never plausible.

Moreover with elections less than a year away, an event like 26/11 with no military response could have dug fatal grave for congress once the secret was out.
Who could have predicted that congress still would storm back to power in 2009 after 26/11 with only dossiers and Robot singh's sigh.

I think the planning was done by the ISI- it was a Paki ISI job primarily, INC just white washed some inconvenient parts. They clearly played their part in the Samjauta express jailing an Indian Army colonel when it was clearly done by ISI.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Feb 2020 11:55

Vikas wrote:Could be true but I find it hard to believe that 26/11 was a congress job outsourced to ISI unless congress had a death wish or were double crossing Pakis. Every fool knows that pulling something off like this and blaming it on Hindu terror was a long shot. With so many horny terrorists on the lose on 26th, Some incompetent terrorist was always on the brink of getting captured and spilling the beans. Indian security may have been caught with its pants down on that fateful day but Pakis getting away with slaughter like this was never plausible.

Moreover with elections less than a year away, an event like 26/11 with no military response could have dug fatal grave for congress once the secret was out.
Who could have predicted that congress still would storm back to power in 2009 after 26/11 with only dossiers and Robot singh's sigh.

No need to go that far ...

1. Bakis decide to do 26/11.
2. CON caught with its pants down.
3. CON has irrefutable proof that it was a baki job but there is general confusion with all terrorist dead but carrying Indian IDs with Hindu names.
4. CON is caught in a bind and decided to make RSS/BJP/Hindu the fall guy to save itself as well as use this to play politics with the BJP/RSS & Hindus.
5. Suppresses the real info on Baki hand and lets the Indian/Hindu Ids speak for themselves with a little masala on the side with Dogvijay blaming RSS and releasing a book titled "26/11 RSS sazis", etc, etc.
6. With Media in the pockets, the fuel the narrative of RSS's "Hindu terror" into a storm from behind the scene. The "Hindu terror" narrative will be useful to shame the Hindus and drive a wedge between Hindus and RSS/BJP.
7. This is also in line with Raful's comments to the US Amby, something on the lines "Biggest challenge/threat to India is from Hindu terror"
8. Hope the 26/11 will turn the "Hindu" masses anger against RSS/BJP for a couple of generation just as Gandhi's assassination worked against RSS before.

Entirely possible, infact that is what Dogvijay was attempting AFTER the fact i.e. to hang the 26/11 carnage around RSS/BJP's neck and push "moderate" Hindus away from BJP for another couple of generations more and make CON great again!

It is only luck/Tukaram Omble which prevented this perfect scenario from the Global, Baki and the CON pov from unfolding.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Feb 2020 12:41

Indian politicians & journalists who foolishly backed ⁦
@Debbie_abrahams ⁩ (in effect British MP for #PoK) for being denied entry into India won’t enjoy reading this report.

disha · Post by **disha** » 19 Feb 2020 12:52

Aditya_V wrote:Can you tell me how many wombs were cut open in Gujarat riots?? But thats what the world believes.

Original 59 persons (mostly women and kids) murdered in Godhra Carnage of burning trains are never mentioned. The canard was set right away that the Karsevaks initiated the fight and they molested somebody at the platform that led to Godhra carnage!

Similarly all of the Bakistan's doing would have been tied to Hindu Terror.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Feb 2020 12:57

Yes I do believe such stories helped INC capture power in 2004.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 19 Feb 2020 14:20

Vikas wrote:Could be true but I find it hard to believe that 26/11 was a congress job outsourced to ISI unless congress had a death wish or were double crossing Pakis. Every fool knows that pulling something off like this and blaming it on Hindu terror was a long shot. With so many horny terrorists on the lose on 26th, Some incompetent terrorist was always on the brink of getting captured and spilling the beans. Indian security may have been caught with its pants down on that fateful day but Pakis getting away with slaughter like this was never plausible.

Moreover with elections less than a year away, an event like 26/11 with no military response could have dug fatal grave for congress once the secret was out.
Who could have predicted that congress still would storm back to power in 2009 after 26/11 with only dossiers and Robot singh's sigh.

It sounds far fetched but given the lows congress has sunk into, worth digging deeper by govt agencies.

Slanderous lies on Gujarat riots against Hindus & RSS gave them 2004.. perhaps they wanted something big to propel them to second term in power.