Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby ashishvikas » 27 May 2020 11:42

IAF chief Air Chief Marshal RKS Bhadauria flew a Tejas jet this morning.

Photos just in from Sulur where the 2nd LCA squadron is being raised.

https://t.co/udGt4KmAa2

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Aditya_V » 27 May 2020 12:38

Kartik wrote:
Beautiful! Hasn't yet conducted it's first flight though, AFAIK. So will still be at HAL Bangalore and most likely won't be seen at AFS Sulur, where No.18 Squadron's raising ceremony will be conducted.

Big day for IAF and HAL as new Tejas squadron takes off today

A.


Another quote from the Article is slightly disappointing

HAL now hopes to deliver the entire block of 16 FOC fighters to IAF by September 2022.

“We are currently extending post-delivery and warranty support for the Initial Operational Clearance(IOC) fleet. The Tejas MK1A delivery will commence in FY 2023-24 at a rate of 16 aircraft per year,”says an official

HAL has already delivered 16 Tejas IOC variants till date to IAF. In the next two years,HAL will have to roll out 16 FOC Tejas fighters and eight trainers for the IAF.

The next two fighters Tejas SP-22 and Tejas SP-23 are expected to join Flying Bullets in the next one month.


The sentence Bolded is a bit contradictory, if HAL produces 16 FOC single seat fighters till September 2022- how is going to Deliver 24 aircraft in FY 20-21 and 21-22

The paras below this seem to indicate
FY20-21 - Roll out 12 FOC Tejas
FY21-22 - Roll out 4 FOC Tejas and 8 trainers
FY22-23 - 10 Tejas MK1A trainers which will be FOC standard + any Naval Tejas for training say 2
FY23-24 onwards till FY 27-28 slightly into FY 28-29 Deliver Mk1A single seat fighters before moving on to MWF.

This time line is bit frustrating since we need these along with Naval Tejas, MWF, TEDBF and AMCA programmes to also happen.

Keepign my Fingers crossed, hope the production is increased with some Naval Tejas, more FOC standard Mk1's and more MK1A's are ordered quickly with Astra Mk1 and Mk2 integration and while simultanously prototypes for Mk1A, TEDBF, MWF and AMCA operate.

Come on someone please make the right decisions behind the scenes

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Bhaskar_T » 27 May 2020 15:32

HAL Official Twitter handle tweets that first FOC Tejas is handed over and inducted into IAF, shows an official letter mentioning the extra capabilities (air to air refuelling capability, close combat gun, additional drop tanks, BVR missile capability, updated avionics and FCS suite) than the IOC version. A historic day! I think in the pictures is the CMD HAL Madhavan handing over documents to CAS.

Images below are from LiveFist and Tarmak007 Twitter accounts.

@HALHQBLR, 27 May 2020, 2:30PM IST

HAL Produced FOC Standard LCAs Join IAF Stable @drajaykumar_ias @DefProdnIndia @SpokespersonMoD @PTI_News @IAF_MCC @gopalsutar


https://twitter.com/HALHQBLR/status/1265568462992261127?s=19

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This patch is mentioned on Tarmak007 Twitter.

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This second patch is mentioned, on LiveFist Twitter, as one of the official one to be seen soon on uniforms.

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PS1 - I would love to produce that letter here as an image but I am afraid if I upload that image to any popular site such as "imgbb", it might get deleted in few months. So, please provide education, where do you upload pictures and how? (In old times, like a decade ago, the page 1 of Dhaaga used to have those details). Admins, Mods - Kindly help.

PS2 - Thank you BalaVignesh and Bharadwaj.
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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Bharadwaj » 27 May 2020 15:41

^^^^^^

That side on image of 5018 should be the first thing anybody sees when they open this thread :mrgreen:

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Bala Vignesh » 27 May 2020 15:52

Bhaskar_T flickr is a good option for this, along with any other photo hosting site like 500px. Even Google photo works, but imyou have specifically assign seperate security property for the photo to be public.

A red letter day for us, with the induction of the FOC Tejas!! Time to deploy the lungis!!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 17:30

Raman wrote:
Rakesh wrote:... lived up to the IAF's motto of Tejas Tejasvi Namaham (Touch the Sky with Glory).


Small correction:
- Tejas Tejasvi Namaham - I am the glory of the glorious. TACDE
- Nabhah Sparsham Deeptam - Touch the sky with glory. IAF

Aiyoo :oops:

You are correct.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 17:32

I need to add SP-22 to page 1, but waiting for first flight. How many aircraft were handed over today? Four?

ashishvikas wrote:To all #Tejas fans out there -- this is piping hot SP22. #AvGeeks

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 90272?s=20

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Sridhar K » 27 May 2020 22:54

Will the first 4 ac of 18 squadron a mix of 3 IOC plus one FOC?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Kartik » 27 May 2020 22:58

Rakesh wrote:I need to add SP-22 to page 1, but waiting for first flight. How many aircraft were handed over today? Four?

ashishvikas wrote:To all #Tejas fans out there -- this is piping hot SP22. #AvGeeks

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 90272?s=20

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With SP-18 not having had it's first flight as yet, it couldn't have flown to Sulur. So only SP-17 was handed over. The other aircraft all are from No.45 Squadron. SP-18, 19 should be handed over to the No.18 Squadron in a month or so.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Kartik » 27 May 2020 23:02

More images from IAF's Twitter

OPERATIONALISATION OF 18 SQN:
18 Squadron, the "Flying Bullets" was operationalised by CAS ACM RKS Bhadauria at AFS Sulur today. The Sqn has a distinguished history of having Fg Offr Nirmal Jeet Singh Sekhon PVC (P) on its honour roll.


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HAL CMD R Madhavan handing over the FOC documents to the IAF Chief

During the ceremony, aircraft documents of the Tejas FOC were handed over by HAL CMD to the CAS & further to the Commanding Officer of 18 Sqn.


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Group Captain Manish Tolani, CO of No.18 Squadron
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Postby Kartik » 27 May 2020 23:05

The No.18 Squadron patch that ACM RKS Bhadauria is wearing is slightly different than the published on Twitter by Anantha Krishnan.

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Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 23:35

Excellent set of pictures Kartik. You always manage to find the best set out there, whether in Tejas dhaaga or Rafale dhaaga. Thank You.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Rakesh » 27 May 2020 23:37

Turbulence: How we almost lost Tejas
https://www.asianage.com/ideas/turbulen ... -tejas-187
24 May 2016

By B. R. SRIKANTH

On May 17, a group of Indian Air Force’s finest were gathered around in a room buzzing with radio transmissions and lined with consoles. There was nervousness in the air and frowns on faces. Their day in Bengaluru had started according to plan. India would witness the performance of the Tejas fighter jet, their boss, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, would be flying in it for the first time, he would take over controls halfway into the 30-minute flight and the jet itself would be flown by ace pilot Group Captain Madhav Rangachari.

But as Group Captain Rangachari fired up the engines of the twin-seat trainer version, Air Chief Marshal Raha, from the rear seat threw up a surprise. He told the pilot he would take over completely — take off, check the jet’s agility, throw it into dives, pick a ‘target’ and then return to Bengaluru’s HAL aiport. And as the group of stunned IAF officers in command & control stared into monitors, their boss shot off in the direction of Krishnagiri in Tamil Nadu, 90 kilometres away, picked a dam as the ‘ground target’, simulated a strike, tossed the jet around with one of the moves generating a body-crushing 5Gs and then headed back to Bengaluru for a smooth landing.

The Air Chief Marshal was flying after 17 years and in command & control many were looking around for chairs to sit. Because besides the relief, there was much joy. For those who had worked on the plane, this day was once a waking dream. Tejas, and its May 17 flight, is the result of over 30 years of work and through those three decades, the plane’s engineers endured unending taunts and even threats of imprisonment. Dr V.S. Arunachalam, a former scientific adviser to the defence minister and chief of DRDO remembers the day they almost lost the plane.

“At one meeting in 1991, chaired by then Defence Minister Sharad Pawar, MP Suresh Kalmadi, said we should be sent behind bars because he had found large-scale misappropriation of funds. But Ratan Tata, who was invited to the meeting along with other industrialists had a contrary opinion. Tata told the minister that we had chosen the best technology and if for some reason the government wished to scrap the project, the Tata Group would take over and make the aircraft themselves. Pawar then decided to support us as many others had agreed with Tata,” he says.

India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme (christened ‘Tejas’ by former Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee later) began when Indira Gandhi was furious with the Soviets for playing truant while supplying spares for fighter aircraft. Soon, the challenge to make a jet for ourselves, fell on the shoulders of Dr Arunachalam and just about 300 others. They would face much of the bureaucratic hell Indian innovation was during its earliest years. His successor, the late Dr A.P.J Abdul Kalam too, faced problems while steering the project. A major blow came in 1998 — after India’s nuclear tests in Pokhran. Two companies —Lockheed Martin and General Electric — who had agreed to provide expertise to the LCA project pulled their engineers out after a US technology embargo. Their ejection turned the clock back by four years for the project.

The plane first flew on January 4, 2001. “One of the early jokes was that LCA stood for ‘Last chance for Arunachalam’. And when I took over (as Chief of DRDO), they said it was Last Chance for Aatre. Today, critics are all quiet,” says Dr Vasudev Aatre, who headed DRDO when ‘Tejas’ made that first flight 15 years ago. Also, for Air Marshal Philip Rajkumar (Retd), who served as a formidable bridge between IAF and DRDO, and later as project director, the fact that Tejas clocked close to 3,000 hours without a single snag is a formidable achievement. He now wants more of these planes inducted as soon as possible. He joins Air Chief Marshal Raha and many others who believe the Tejas has become, an asset.

And to think we almost lost the plane to mountains of paperwork and Suresh Kalmadi’s accounting.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Vips » 28 May 2020 00:25

HAL awaiting approval for Mk-1A manufacture: CMD.

Hindustan Aeronautical Ltd (HAL) is awaiting approval from the Cabinet for manufacture of LCA Mk-1A, the improvised version of Mk-1 to be supplied to Indian Air Force (IAF), a top official said on Wednesday.

The Cabinet's approval should have been received earlier, but was delayed due to the COVID-19 situation and the company is expecting it during the third quarter of the financial year, HAL Chairman and Managing Director, R Madhavan told reporters at Sulur near here, on the sidelines of handing over Tejas Mk-1 FOC to the IAF.

HAL has an order of 83 such fighter aircraft and once it received the approval it would start supplying by 2023, in 36 months, he said. Similarly, another version Mk-2 is under design stage, which will be more advanced than the previous variants, he added.

Stating that the FOC variant will reduce the maintenance man hours and turnaround time resulting in enhanced support to IAF missions, Madhavan said 16 more such FOC fighters will be delivered soon, by increasing the manufacturing capacity from eight to 16.

When asked about setting up an assembling unit in Coimbatore, which has a defence manufacturing corridor, Madhavan said of the more than 2,000 vendors, the city has a major share and there was no plan to set up a unit so far.

To another question on exports, the official said that HAL was very much interested in supplying to other countries.

Air officer Commander in Chief Southern Air Command, Amit Tiwari, who was present, said that IAF had enough war planes and there was no no shortage as such.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby SBajwa » 28 May 2020 01:25

New Tejas Squadron.


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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Mort Walker » 28 May 2020 09:21

Vips wrote:HAL awaiting approval for Mk-1A manufacture: CMD.

Hindustan Aeronautical Ltd (HAL) is awaiting approval from the Cabinet for manufacture of LCA Mk-1A, the improvised version of Mk-1 to be supplied to Indian Air Force (IAF), a top official said on Wednesday.

The Cabinet's approval should have been received earlier, but was delayed due to the COVID-19 situation and the company is expecting it during the third quarter of the financial year, HAL Chairman and Managing Director, R Madhavan told reporters at Sulur near here, on the sidelines of handing over Tejas Mk-1 FOC to the IAF.

HAL has an order of 83 such fighter aircraft and once it received the approval it would start supplying by 2023, in 36 months, he said. Similarly, another version Mk-2 is under design stage, which will be more advanced than the previous variants, he added.

Stating that the FOC variant will reduce the maintenance man hours and turnaround time resulting in enhanced support to IAF missions, Madhavan said 16 more such FOC fighters will be delivered soon, by increasing the manufacturing capacity from eight to 16.

When asked about setting up an assembling unit in Coimbatore, which has a defence manufacturing corridor, Madhavan said of the more than 2,000 vendors, the city has a major share and there was no plan to set up a unit so far.

To another question on exports, the official said that HAL was very much interested in supplying to other countries.

Air officer Commander in Chief Southern Air Command, Amit Tiwari, who was present, said that IAF had enough war planes and there was no no shortage as such.


This should have been part of the $200 billion FinMin NS stimulus package along with another 83 Mk1A. You wonder what is going on in the minds of the GoI.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Philip » 28 May 2020 09:49

An historic day,but depressingly not a single trainer delivered so far and the MK1A will arrive,says the TOI quoting defence sources, in " 36 months" time! So even if the deal for the 83 1As are signed off this year,at the AL rate of production we will have only around 6 years this decade after the 1A " arrives", even allowing for an accelerated rate of production, it's only by the decade that we will see the 120+ MK-1s and 1As delivered!
And let's be frank.The Tejas is not an earth- shattering bird in comparison to other birds already flying like the Gripen,etc. We needed it to be built quickly and cheaply so that by around 2025,about 200 would've been in service allowing us to wave goodbye to the last MIG-21. The interim solution of acquiring 120+ MMRCAs is ending up like the Pink Panther series of films. PP,Return of the PP, Revenge of the PP, PP strikes again and so on and so fourth,pardon the pun!

When pvt. entities are already manufacturing major components for Boeing and Lockheed, why the pvt. sector cannot be entrusted with a Tejas line defeats one. It goes against the grain of the mantra of " build in India".Astonishingly,all that the pvt. sector gets is admonishings and urgings from various govt. entities,including those in uniform,to deliver top-of-the-line desi products to replace firang ones,but with no aid or orders! From the ICVs to aircraft and helos, orders are zilch.The only major desi pvt. sector involvement along with orders is in the arty., with parts of Pinaka,etc. also being supplied.Rocketry and missiles excepted,there is much involvement,but in conventional weapon systems like AVs,aircraft,helos, drones, arty.,small arms,ammo, some categories of warships, etc., at least 1/3rd of complete systems must come from the pvt. sector.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Indranil » 28 May 2020 10:13

Not today Philip sir.

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Postby shaun » 28 May 2020 11:38

Philip wrote:An historic day,but depressingly not a single trainer delivered so far.....

Sir LCA simulator is one of the best in its class , how you think IAF operationalize squadron so quickly .

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Aditya_V » 28 May 2020 11:48

Sridhar K wrote:Will the first 4 ac of 18 squadron a mix of 3 IOC plus one FOC?


All IOC single seat fighters have been delivered to No. 45 Flying Daggers squadron.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Sridhar K » 28 May 2020 14:05

Aditya_V wrote:
Sridhar K wrote:Will the first 4 ac of 18 squadron a mix of 3 IOC plus one FOC?


All IOC single seat fighters have been delivered to No. 45 Flying Daggers squadron.


Thanks. So the other aircrafts in the photos belongs to #45 sq and #18 Sq had only one ac for now?

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Postby srai » 28 May 2020 14:53

Indranil wrote:Not today Philip sir.

Indeed! Not today.

Time to celebrate the accomplishments after so many years we all have followed right here on BR! ... and the many years before that scrounging for titbits of info. A generation of us can now “retire” here in peace. Mission accomplished :twisted:

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby dinesh_kimar » 28 May 2020 15:33

The recent information abt Mig 27 and Mig 21 squadrons being number plated by IAF, and not ordering equivalent Tejas variants for same squadrons is perplexing.

IAF have themselves tested Tejas in CAS/GA role in Iron Fist, and also multiple combat scenarios where Mig 21 is used. They themselves admit it is better than Mig 21 and Mig 27.

But orders aren't forthcoming as an equivalent replacement within same squadron probably the only case like this in the world.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby ashishvikas » 28 May 2020 20:12

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 76256?s=19

#TejasTailpiece 1
There is no change in internal aircraft numbering of #Tejas FOC from #HAL’s end which will continue with SP-21, 22 etc. #IAF allocates different tail numbers & these numbering/patterns are often NOT discussed on social media owing to the sensitives. #AvGeeks

#TejasTailpiece 2
#IAF often requests media NOT to quote tail numbers or show them while publishing pix because less specifics of an operational asset/weapon always better. "Small details will fit the jigsaw for the adversary somewhere," says a top source.

#TejasTailpiece 3
Since 2 squadrons of #Tejas are now formed and many more will get inducted in future, top sources say that sensitive matters linked to any of its roles CANNOT float around. It seems some directions already been given out to stake-holders.

#TejasTailpiece 4
The advanced version of #LCA which was known as Medium Weight Fighter (MWF) will now be #TejasMKII or #LCAMKII as called earlier. The name #MWF has been dropped. Eventually, this programme will get an appropriate name at the right time.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Rakesh » 28 May 2020 20:49

Philip wrote:If simulators are all that's needed for the supersonic LCA by the IAF ,why then do we need an HTT-40, Sitara IJT, Hawk AJT? Scrap the requirement for all two-seat trainers!

I'm also commissioning LCA Sqd. No.3, at home with my paper planes,production far faster than HAL! Name of the Sqd.? The " Paper Tigers"! :rotfl:

You were asked nicely by IR not to do this. Enjoy a ban till 01 June 2020.

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Postby basant » 28 May 2020 21:44

Just before the link is missed, I am quoting Twitter
Anantha Krishnan M Flag of India @writetake
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An #IAF friend looped in a 21-sec clip in which CAS says:
"As time goes on, #Tejas 45 & 18 Squadrons will become the core of our growth in terms of combat capability for the future. That's why we have posted the best people in these two squadrons."


Further, from New Indian Express
“Every new pilot who joins the squadron first goes through a grueling ground training session for several weeks. He then flies on the Tejas simulator followed by sorties on the trainer or two-seater version (PV5 & PV 6) and later they get to fly the Tejas solo. After its developmental flight tests by the National Flight Test Center, the Flying Daggers have started operational training and flying on this aircraft. Our flying and maintenance related inputs as users, are being collated for further design improvements on this aircraft,” says Ranga, who has so far flown over 300 sorties, clocking 200-plus hours.


PS: No, it's not encouraging anyone. Just preparing for end of Lockdown on June 1st!

Congratulations and best wishes for No 18 Sq!

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Yagnasri » 28 May 2020 22:08

One of the gurus in some other places asked me if all IOC level LCAs are being converted to FOC level. I said yes. Am I right? Sorry for a mango man question.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Indranil » 28 May 2020 22:19

Yagnasri wrote:One of the gurus in some other places asked me if all IOC level LCAs are being converted to FOC level. I said yes. Am I right? Sorry for a mango man question.

You are correct. You can also tell them that all will eventually be converted to Mk1A standard. In fact LSP8 is being converted to Mk1A and a few more SPs to follow for testing purposes.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby basant » 28 May 2020 22:20

Yagnasri wrote:One of the gurus in some other places asked me if all IOC level LCAs are being converted to FOC level. I said yes. Am I right? Sorry for a mango man question.

There are several 'hardware' differences, such as gun and internal layout for easier maintenance, including interchangeability of components. However, I think many software upgrades will be backported at regular intervals. It might take a while for complete upgradation I guess. Gurus may correct me if I am mistaken.

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Postby Indranil » 28 May 2020 22:22

Guns will be integrated on all. Same with IFR. Access panels, I am not sure. But please read my post just above yours. if LSP8 can be converted to Mk1A, then why not the SPs?

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Postby suryag » 28 May 2020 22:43

IR sir unlike other old bombasts who made unobtainium mithai promises here I promise that I will send you one blue label when the SP to MK1A conversion proposal is sent by AHQ to the MoD/MoF for endless consideration

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Postby Indranil » 28 May 2020 23:26

Well, send it over then because that proposal has already been sent. You will be happy to know that AHQ looks at it very favourably.

Okay, I will save you the trouble. I am a teetotaler. But, my friends have described me as "eternally high" in the past. Some kadak chai and samosa generally does the trick! We should get together sometime if you drop the 'sir'.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby abhik » 28 May 2020 23:33

basant wrote:...
Further, from New Indian Express
“Every new pilot who joins the squadron first goes through a grueling ground training session for several weeks. He then flies on the Tejas simulator followed by sorties on the trainer or two-seater version (PV5 & PV 6) and later they get to fly the Tejas solo. After its developmental flight tests by the National Flight Test Center, the Flying Daggers have started operational training and flying on this aircraft. Our flying and maintenance related inputs as users, are being collated for further design improvements on this aircraft,” says Ranga, who has so far flown over 300 sorties, clocking 200-plus hours.

Thanks for posting, good to know IAF is putting the prototypes to use.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Kartik » 28 May 2020 23:44

Indranil wrote:
Yagnasri wrote:One of the gurus in some other places asked me if all IOC level LCAs are being converted to FOC level. I said yes. Am I right? Sorry for a mango man question.

You are correct. You can also tell them that all will eventually be converted to Mk1A standard. In fact LSP8 is being converted to Mk1A and a few more SPs to follow for testing purposes.


Ah great, so we finally know which LSP is going to become the first Mk1A prototype!

But SPs to be converted to Mk1A too? So they'll be pulled out of operations for testing purpose and then eventually all the IOC and FOC jets will get converted to Mk1A standard?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby basant » 28 May 2020 23:48

Indranil wrote:Guns will be integrated on all. Same with IFR. Access panels, I am not sure. But please read my post just above yours. if LSP8 can be converted to Mk1A, then why not the SPs?

Sorry IR, we almost posted at the same time. Had I seen your post, wouldn't have replied. :)

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Sanju » 28 May 2020 23:56

Rakesh wrote:Turbulence: How we almost lost Tejas
https://www.asianage.com/ideas/turbulen ... -tejas-187
24 May 2016

By B. R. SRIKANTH

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“At one meeting in 1991, chaired by then Defence Minister Sharad Pawar, MP Suresh Kalmadi, said we should be sent behind bars because he had found large-scale misappropriation of funds. But Ratan Tata, who was invited to the meeting along with other industrialists had a contrary opinion. Tata told the minister that we had chosen the best technology and if for some reason the government wished to scrap the project, the Tata Group would take over and make the aircraft themselves. Pawar then decided to support us as many others had agreed with Tata,” he says.

<snip...>

And to think we almost lost the plane to mountains of paperwork and Suresh Kalmadi’s accounting.


Karma did catch up with Suresh "Commonwealth" Kalmadi.

And a big thank you to Sri. Ratan Tata.

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby Kartik » 29 May 2020 00:26

Beautiful image of SP-17 (SP-21 earlier) with Air Cmdre Muthanna. View image in full size to see the superb build quality of the FOC Tejas Mk1.

Picture credit: Vayu Aerospace Review

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Series production of the FOC Standard Tejas LCA Mk.1 has been continuing at the Bangalore Complex of HAL, the first such aircraft flown by HAL Chief Test Pilot (fixed wing) Air Commodore KA Muthana on 17 March 2020, with HAL-assigned tail number LA 5021


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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby naird » 29 May 2020 01:16

Indranil wrote:You are correct. You can also tell them that all will eventually be converted to Mk1A standard. In fact LSP8 is being converted to Mk1A and a few more SPs to follow for testing purposes.


Thanks IR - new piece of information. Any timelines on when it is expected to be completed and test flown ?

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Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

Postby naird » 29 May 2020 01:17

This series of tweets explains why HVT sir has pressed the mute button. He definitely has reduced his twitter exchanges...

ashishvikas wrote:#TejasTailpiece 1
There is no change in internal aircraft numbering of #Tejas FOC from #HAL’s end which will continue with SP-21, 22 etc. #IAF allocates different tail numbers & these numbering/patterns are often NOT discussed on social media owing to the sensitives. #AvGeeks

#TejasTailpiece 2
#IAF often requests media NOT to quote tail numbers or show them while publishing pix because less specifics of an operational asset/weapon always better. "Small details will fit the jigsaw for the adversary somewhere," says a top source.

#TejasTailpiece 3
Since 2 squadrons of #Tejas are now formed and many more will get inducted in future, top sources say that sensitive matters linked to any of its roles CANNOT float around. It seems some directions already been given out to stake-holders.

#TejasTailpiece 4
The advanced version of #LCA which was known as Medium Weight Fighter (MWF) will now be #TejasMKII or #LCAMKII as called earlier. The name #MWF has been dropped. Eventually, this programme will get an appropriate name at the right time.

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 76256?s=19


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