INS Vikrant News and Discussion

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby ArjunPandit » 15 May 2020 16:04

hope to see a second one ordered ..what better boost to swadeshi

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby John » 15 May 2020 17:10

Is that 3D ASR radar or Indra Lanza radar?

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby abhik » 15 May 2020 18:09

hnair wrote:Celebration upcoming! Finally some dates on sea-trials and that seem close!

(source: tweet from a BRF favorite :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Ten years after I first visited the construction site at Cochin Shipyard where we had begun building the first indigenous aircraft carrier, I came back yesterday to step into INS Vikrant, just four months away from its trials at sea. Inspiring tour& briefing from a great team!

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Any news of the sea trials?

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby Prithwiraj » 15 May 2020 18:55

Lockdown might have pushed it back... looking at the recent pictures just posted above --- does not look like it is ready yet

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby John » 15 May 2020 19:46

Prithwiraj wrote:Lockdown might have pushed it back... looking at the recent pictures just posted above --- does not look like it is ready yet

Looks to be doing basin trials.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby chola » 19 May 2020 01:12

^^^ I think basin trials mean that the sea trial is coming soon. From what I read basin trials are supposed to confirm that things are in working order before firing them up fully for sea trials. I assume you wouldn't test that stuff out and then let things sit for months so the test is no longer valid. I think sea trials will come soon.

But successful sea trials doesn't mean that work is done. There might still be a lot of things to do.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby John » 19 May 2020 05:06

Also It doesn’t look like MF-STAR has been fitted in yet.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby Prithwiraj » 21 May 2020 18:34

Covid-19 caused further delays for the trial of INS Vikrant

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2020/05/ ... craft.html

The long wait for India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, is set to be even longer. Senior naval sources say the Covid-19 pandemic has set back the start of trials by at least six months – perhaps more if the lockdown and travel restrictions continue.

The first phase of the warship’s trials – termed basin trials – was initially scheduled to begin on March 12 at Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL), where INS Vikrant has been constructed. However, construction delays caused that to be moved back to April. Then, with the Covid-19 pandemic locking down facilities and travel, the navy says trials are unlikely to begin before September/October.

An example of the delay is the difficulty faced by marine engine specialists from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) in travelling to Kochi for the trials. These HAL representatives are essential for the trials because the General Electric (GE) gas turbines that power INS Vikrant have been built and supplied by HAL’s collaborative venture with GE in Bengaluru. However, the HAL representatives are reluctant to travel to Kochi, where they would face 14 days of quarantine on arrival in Kerala and another 14 days quarantine on return to Bengaluru.

Similarly, there are about 40-50 vendor representatives, including 10 from abroad, who cannot come to Kochi for basin trials without facing the deterring prospect of mandatory quarantine.

“The navy has even offered to organise the vendors’ quarantine and to pay the expenses that are incurred. Given how much this delay in trials is escalating the cost of INS Vikrant, we would pay less for the quarantine and related expenditure. But the Kerala government is not agreeing to this,” says a navy admiral on condition of anonymity.

“We were optimistic about finding a solution because Kochi and Ernakulam are green zones. But when we request to the Kerala government, they say: ‘Yes, we are in a green zone but we don’t want to convert it back to a red zone’,” he said.

In his Navy Day press meeting last December, the navy chief, Admiral Karambir Singh, had said the navy would have a fully operational INS Vikrant before the end of 2022. The Covid-19 pandemic has already pushed that back to 2023 and further delays are possible.

Karambir Singh stated it was operationally essential for the navy to operate three aircraft carriers. It now appears that, for about three more years, it will have to make do with its lone carrier – the Russia-built INS Vikramaditya.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby chola » 21 May 2020 20:15

^^^

These moves below were not the basin trials? What were they? The Vikrant moved away from dockside.

Rakesh wrote:Recent photos of Vikrant...

https://twitter.com/Isvikasnautiyal/sta ... 54784?s=20 --->

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby Prithwiraj » 21 May 2020 20:50

May be to free up the dry dock for maintenance or other projects

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby SNaik » 28 May 2020 18:42

She's not in a dry dock, rather moored at outfitting quay. With tugboats around, doesn't look she's under own power.
Delay of six months or even more could not be caused by virus disruption only, they started only in late March.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby Prithwiraj » 28 May 2020 18:52

the article clearly stated that HAL personnel from marine turbine division are not willing to travel to Kerala.... etc. Also if overseas guys are also not able to travel for obvious reasons.....

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby chola » 28 May 2020 18:57

SNaik wrote:She's not in a dry dock, rather moored at outfitting quay. With tugboats around, doesn't look she's under own power.
Delay of six months or even more could not be caused by virus disruption only, they started only in late March.


Tugs are for maneuvering under harbor conditions too. She's definitely at a new location now according to the satellite photo below. She could have moved on her own to the new location with the final berthing helped by the tugs.

Look:

https://mobile.twitter.com/detresfa_/status/1265906447499419649p


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Recent satellite data spots the #IndianNavy Indigenous Aircraft Carrier INS VIKRANT moving from its berth to new position as of May 2020, rumours suggest the movement took place using her own power indicating possible progress on the carrier's development

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby SNaik » 28 May 2020 22:33

Possible, when fully manned with trained crew. Which is definitely not the case at the moment.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby John » 28 May 2020 22:49

Thanks Chola you beat me to it with the reply.

Also if you notice the carrier looks to be missing few components including MF-STAR.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby chola » 29 May 2020 17:11

So are these the basin trials? Basin trials would include running the engines and I assume navigation gear. Weapon acquisition systems like MF-STAR probably not necessary?

But nice to see pictures! First picture seems to be a ceremony before move. Not sure if the second picture has the tugboat actually tugging. If Vikrant moved under own power then this is the basin trial for sure. If not then maybe just a move to another part of the harbor.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby John » 29 May 2020 18:58

For P-15A I recall the MF-STAR was installed prior to trail even while we waited for Barak-8 to finish development, not sure if there is some specific changes for Vikrant and that is holding it up. DRDO did have a specific entry for LRSAM for Vikrant:

LRSAM IAC ‐ Long Range Surface to Air Missile for Indigenous Aircraft Carrier


Added looks like the tweet has been deleted. Perhaps it hasn’t been approved for release.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby chola » 29 May 2020 20:40

John wrote:For P-15A I recall the MF-STAR was installed prior to trail even while we waited for Barak-8 to finish development, not sure if there is some specific changes for Vikrant and that is holding it up. DRDO did have a specific entry for LRSAM for Vikrant:

LRSAM IAC ‐ Long Range Surface to Air Missile for Indigenous Aircraft Carrier


Added looks like the tweet has been deleted. Perhaps it hasn’t been approved for release.


Andreas Rupprecht is a respected China Watcher from Germany. It looks like those Vikrant pictures were from SDF one of the chini mil forums (none of those forums are actually in Cheen but US and Canada.)

I'll remove them just in case.

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Re: INS Vikrant News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 29 May 2020 23:19

That side of the inlet is not Cochin Shipyard. That side is INS Venduruthy directly across from the shipyard, and further up (where INS Vikrant seemingly is) is Cochin Port.


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