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pankajs wrote:A very very interesting point raised by Arnab @republic "How is it that in last few years, Bollywood films are earning much more in China than even in India ?" @iMac_too
Lot more folks talking of this now.
Aamir Khan's Dangal was one of the highest grossing foreign films in China's history. Definitely an audit must be done. Was it really that popular or was that money laundered for influence peddling or other #BreakingIndia acts?
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What qtiyapa is this?

Far from fighting for free speech & supporting Sudarshan TV, the "Hindu Hriday Samrat" Govt in power issues a show-cause notice to Sudarshan TV!! And we are wondering why people like Rajiv Malhotra are pissed

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 276655.cms
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Prem Kumar wrote:What qtiyapa is this?

Far from fighting for free speech & supporting Sudarshan TV, the "Hindu Hriday Samrat" Govt in power issues a show-cause notice to Sudarshan TV!! And we are wondering why people like Rajiv Malhotra are pissed

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 276655.cms
is this the GoI telling the SC that this matter is our business and you stay out of it since it is a matter of policy
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Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman's Wonderful Speech About #PMCaresFund At Parliament 2020
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is this the GoI telling the SC that this matter is our business and you stay out of it since it is a matter of policy
Yes, and allowing Sudarshan TV time to put in follow ups that benefits it.
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@Suraj:

Sometime ago, you expressed an interest in William Dalrymple's visa status.

Here is an update, a tweet from Monika Arora, whose book Dalrymple got squashed.

Dalrymple visa status, twitter update

Summary translation: Dalrymple is on a business visa. We have filed a complaint that he is in violation of his visa conditions.

Opindia Hindi article
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chetak wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:What qtiyapa is this?

Far from fighting for free speech & supporting Sudarshan TV, the "Hindu Hriday Samrat" Govt in power issues a show-cause notice to Sudarshan TV!! And we are wondering why people like Rajiv Malhotra are pissed

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 276655.cms
is this the GoI telling the SC that this matter is our business and you stay out of it since it is a matter of policy
If that's their intention, its got to be the most ass-backward way of conveying it.

And for the record, I don't think so. The Govt is pissing on one of their own. I don't subscribe to the Chankian theories that there is a deep meaning behind all this
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KLNMurthy wrote:@Suraj:

Sometime ago, you expressed an interest in William Dalrymple's visa status.

Here is an update, a tweet from Monika Arora, whose book Dalrymple got squashed.

Dalrymple visa status, twitter update


Summary translation: Dalrymple is on a business visa. We have filed a complaint that he is in violation of his visa conditions.

Opindia Hindi article
I had posted the english link here


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chetak wrote:visa details of that wretched creature william dalrymple have emerged :mrgreen:

time to see off such scottish/britshit "literary" scum permanently from dharmic lands and dump him back into the dustbin whence he came from

Complaint filed against William Dalrymple for flouting visa norms, trying to interfere in India’s internal affairs
That's very good progress indeed :twisted:
William Dalrymple is a Scottish national who holds an Indian Business Visa. He regularly visits India, stays for long durations and resides mostly in Delhi, says the complaint. It added further that any foreign national must adhere to activities permitted under that specific visa.

“It has been observed however that Mr Dalrymple has been deliberately engaging in activities that interfere with India’s internal affairs,” the complainant Monika Arora alleged in her complaint.
So he's clearly no OCI, and has nothing the OCI status could remotely afford to protect him from the consequences of his actions.
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Prem Kumar wrote:
chetak wrote:
is this the GoI telling the SC that this matter is our business and you stay out of it since it is a matter of policy
If that's their intention, its got to be the most ass-backward way of conveying it.

And for the record, I don't think so. The Govt is pissing on one of their own. I don't subscribe to the Chankian theories that there is a deep meaning behind all this


nothing chanakyan about it............ here it is in black and white
Bar & Bench @barandbench·9h

Order: 1/n

Justice Chandrachud: During hearing SG Mehta has stated that the Central government has in excercise of power conferred upon it under Cable Network TV Act, 1995 has showcaused @SudarshanNewsTV today. Since the notice is returnable on Sept 28, we have been...

Bar & Bench@barandbench ·9h

2/n ...

requested to defer the hearing. We have heard counsels in response to the SG's submission. They are of the view that since show cause is issued, the proceedings should resume on October 5. The notice shall be dealt with in accordance with law and centre will file a report

Bar & Bench @barandbench·9h

3/n

regarding outcome of the decision by the Centre. Hence hearing is deferred to Oct 5. Order passed on Sept 15 injuncting the remain episodes will continue to remain in operation

Order ends****
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Prem Kumar ji, can we little more discretion in the future please? What is this that I most patriotic or Hindu and rest all are Malecha?
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https://twitter.com/iampayalghosh/statu ... 35617?s=20


Payal Ghosh
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I have given an interview regarding the entire episode on Mr. Kashyap to a renowned portal and the next thing I get to know that they are seeking permission from Mr. Kashyap himself. India, if I am found hanging from the ceiling, remember this. I didn't commit suicide. #MeToo
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Found this on twitter from KRK and couldn't help :rotfl: :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/kamaalrkhan/status/ ... 2905330690
दीपिका ने अपने एक interview में कहा था, कि वो राहुल गांधी को इंडिया का PM देखना चाहती है! मैं तो उसी दिन समझ गया था, कि ये ड्रग्स लेती है!
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nachiket wrote: Majority of the shameful behavior came from TMC. Looking at the way things are going we might very well see a Cong-TMC alliance for WB assembly polls.
Will be a god send for Italian Congress otherwise they would have been wiped out.

It will still be a triangular contest with the CPIM, TMC and BJP. What will be the likely scenario?
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Suraj wrote:
chetak wrote:visa details of that wretched creature william dalrymple have emerged :mrgreen:

time to see off such scottish/britshit "literary" scum permanently from dharmic lands and dump him back into the dustbin whence he came from

Complaint filed against William Dalrymple for flouting visa norms, trying to interfere in India’s internal affairs
That's very good progress indeed :twisted:
William Dalrymple is a Scottish national who holds an Indian Business Visa. He regularly visits India, stays for long durations and resides mostly in Delhi, says the complaint. It added further that any foreign national must adhere to activities permitted under that specific visa.

“It has been observed however that Mr Dalrymple has been deliberately engaging in activities that interfere with India’s internal affairs,” the complainant Monika Arora alleged in her complaint.
So he's clearly no OCI, and has nothing the OCI status could remotely afford to protect him from the consequences of his actions.
Excellent! Ms Arora, seasoned attorney that she is, is right on the money.
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https://www.dharmadispatch.in/commentar ... -two-parts
Why Amit Shah’s FCRA Bill has Rattled Oxfam India: Explained in Two Parts
Far Left global NGOs like Oxfam are upset with the latest FCRA (Amendment) Bill passed in the Lok Sabha


GEM of an article. Go thru this fully
https://www.dharmadispatch.in/commentar ... university
Untangling the Oxfam Labyrinth: What Unites George Soros, Harsh Mander and Ashoka University?
Continuing the thread on Oxfam from the previous part, here is a small data point that quantifies the scale at which it operates. Oxfam is a direct partner of the British Government, which paid it 20 million Pounds (GBP) in grants between 2002-2005.

Oxfam’s labyrinthine web of global connections can be traced to the notorious Unitarian Universalist Holdeen India Program (UUHIP) operating from Boston, Massachusetts. As its name indicates, UUHIP is an out and out Christian organisation and like other Christian denominations, it too, has a dedicated plan to harvest Hindu souls in India. In India, it masks its proselytising activities under the garbs of social justice, women empowerment, and grassroots work.

Global partners of the UUHIP include the justly infamous Amnesty International and the even more notorious Human Rights Watch. Guess who is the major donor of Human Rights Watch?

George Soros.

Guess who is the other major donor of Human Rights Watch?

Oxfam.
The other modus operandi of Oxfam is to fund and create new NGOs to explicitly avoid FCRA scrutiny. One such NGO, Aman was created by partnering with Ford Foundation. Other donors to Aman include the toxic ActionAid, Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, and the National Foundation for India. It is well-known that the country head of ActionAid for a long time was the notorious Harsh Mander. The shenanigans unleashed by Rajiv Gandhi Foundation are too well-known to repeat here. However, interesting facts emerge when we examine the names of the trustees of the National Foundation for India as on August 22, 2006:

Kiran Karnaik (Chairman)

Dr M S Swaminathan

N Ram

Manmohan Singh

Sayeda Hamid

Patricia Mukim

P Sainath

Anita Rampal

Andre Beteille

Malika Sarabai

Deepak Parekh

A representative of Ford Foundation

Recall the fact that Amitabh Behar, current CEO of Oxfam is an alumnus of the selfsame National Foundation for India.

The full name of Aman is Aman Public Charitable Trust, alias Aman Panchayat owned by Dilip Simeon, a former Naxal who directly participated in the first Naxalbari war against the Indian state. He is now a faculty at the Ashoka University and is quite obviously an inveterate hater of the RSS.
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https://thediplomat.com/2020/09/the-ind ... ent-world/
The India-China Ladakh Crisis: Why So Silent, World?
The fact that the tense standoff in Ladakh has not led to a greater impression on the public in the U.S. and elsewhere raises uncomfortable questions.
By Abhijnan Rej, September 24, 2020

Toward the end of last week, a Western analyst who specializes in East Asian strategic affairs messaged me to discuss the latest turn in the ongoing India-China military standoff in Ladakh, as we have periodically done over the last few months. But this time around, he noted something that has been on the minds of many since the crisis started early May: Despite the gravity of the situation, the world seems to be relatively blasé about it.
True, as the crisis has deepened — with clashes and deaths, and reports of firing on the Line of the Actual Control (which serves as the de facto though undefined border between the two countries) for the first time in more than 40 years – the international press has covered the standoff with increasing regularity. But the impression that the current crisis deserves far more attention than what it has received so far is unmistakable.
Consider this: You have India and China — Asia’s second and fourth most powerful militaries – in a standoff that will enter its fifth month in less than two weeks. Add to this the possibility that in event of a shooting war between the two, Pakistan, another top-10 regional military power, may also join in to open a new front against India — and all three countries are nuclear-armed. Top it off with the (much-repeated) facts that China and India together make up a third of the planet’s population and they are the second and fifth largest economies in the world, and you’d perhaps also wonder why the India-China crisis is not jumping off the screen for you.
I can think of four different reasons, each troubling in its own right.
The first has to do with how India’s strategic orientation is widely perceived, beyond the coterie of government officials, think tankers, and journalists in key Western capitals. When we think of wars India might fight, Pakistan – and Kashmir – immediately comes to mind. To be sure, this mental hyphenation has been reinforced by New Delhi’s own very public obsession with Pakistan and its material military posture. But Kashmir has always been a dispute involving three powers, though admittedly China had been, for a considerable period of time, relatively silent about it. It is a matter of no small irony that India’s most serious national security challenge since the 1999 Kargil conflict with Pakistan is in Ladakh – which formed part of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir till August last year.
Which brings me to my second reason. While India has vocally sought the United States’ intercession and public support any time it has gotten into a scrap with Pakistan, it has – as Tanvi Madan and others have reminded us – preferred that the United States refrain from commenting on its difficulties with China, while counting on quiet help. (This was the delicately balanced apple cart that President Donald Trump’s rash statements about the ongoing standoff in May threatened to overturn.)
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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/n ... 2020-09-23
Numbers explain farm bill ruckus in Rajya Sabha
Records show that a large number of members of major opposition parties did not come to the House on Sunday, and this includes almost a dozen Congress members. This means, just on the basis of attendance records, it can be said that the government was at least 17 votes ahead of the Congress-led Opposition when the debate on the farm bills began.

To defeat the Bills, Opposition needed the support of 18 MPs of the Third Block parties. But during the debate, there were indications that even its allies were deserting while the government seemed set to gain the support of “others”.

BJP sources allege that the Opposition staged a disruption to ensure that there was no vote and its numeric weakness never gets exposed.
If one draws a final tally after the debate was over the government, numbers could have been 110 for the Bills vs 70 against the Bills. This means the Opposition had a clear idea that the government was going to have its way, and for them, the game was lost.
The Congress-led Opposition had moved three dozen-odd amendments to the Bills. If the Opposition had the numbers it could have patiently pressed for a vote on each amendment and brought about drastic changes to the Bill.

In case it wanted a vote on any or all of amendments, the Opposition members could have demanded division (which entails voting) and the chair could not have denied it.

But the Opposition started the din and chaos right after the agriculture minister started replying to the debate and the government unilaterally went ahead with extending the days session beyond the stipulated end at 1 pm.

The Leader of Opposition, Ghulam Nabi Azad, had requested the chair to go for a consensus on this. Refused, the Opposition stormed the Well, realising that now the Bills will be up for passing.

The din ensured that there could be no division as the rule book says that every member has to be in his or her allocated seat for division or voting to take place.

If the Opposition had numbers, a better course could have been sitting in their seats and demand voting.
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https://twitter.com/sanjeevsanyal/statu ... 2689783808
One more reform done: Major Port Authorities Bill. It provides autonomy to each port authority so that it can made decentralised decisions and thinks of itself as a "developer" rather than a govt department. Most major global ports are run like this.
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fanne wrote:Prem Kumar ji, can we little more discretion in the future please? What is this that I most patriotic or Hindu and rest all are Malecha?
Sir: where did I give off such a vibe? Criticizing the Govt for not supporting Indic causes is not the same as holier-than-thou (especially given their track record of not touching these issues)
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Embedded barandbench.com link ... worthwhile to watch ...

https://twitter.com/KanchanGupta/status ... 5479618560
Petition in Delhi High Court against @Twitter whose "servers were used for the promotion of #Khalistan". Some serious allegations have been listed and directions sought for NIA investigation. An interesting case to watch and track.
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https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1308819752740028417
Important sign of deep convergence between Delhi & Riyadh. In a very rare development, both India's External Affairs minister S Jaishankar & National Security Advisors Ajit Doval were present at the Saudi National Day celebration in Delhi.
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chetak wrote:
3/n

regarding outcome of the decision by the Centre. Hence hearing is deferred to Oct 5. Order passed on Sept 15 injuncting the remain episodes will continue to remain in operation

Order ends****[/b]
What galls me is the issuance of a Show Cause Notice & the injunction, as if Sudarshan TV did something wrong. I don't see this Govt having passed such a notice to NDTV or the numerous other anti-India channels for their open biases.

Anyway, lets see. I am happy to be wrong.
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Chronology is important to understand what has happened.

The current GOI allowed many things on TV, Social media and on OTT platform that *could* be hurtful to one side or the other. Their approach to *policing* was pretty relaxed to the extent that IIRC Ravi Shankar Prasad *proudly* stated that they have no intention of regulating OTT platforms in one press-con.

Under the same *relaxed* approach they allowed the first few episode of the "UPSC Jihad" program after the initial approach of the petitioner to the SC. ONLY when the SC started taking a hard line has the GOI changed its approach infront of the SC and has issued show cause notice.

It has even gone ahead and stated before the SC that the online content too has to have be placed under the same scrutiny as the TV content BUT only after the SC went for the jugular in the Sudarshan tv case. Contrast this with its earlier official stand that OTT content does NOT need to be regulated!

As far as NDTV content is concerned, especially the ones referred by Sudarshan TV in its defense before the SC, is from a period far back in time and if I am not mistaken from a time before the current GOI was sworn in, given that they were anchored by Dukhta Butt.

Returning back to the present ... GOI does have a muddled approach to the whole issue.

1. It does not want to be labelled as fascist and therefore has avoided taking any action on offending content both on TV and online including on OTT platforms which are full of anti-Hindu shit. Funny thing is that inspite of that they are still called as fascist! In a sense, Modi is still playing to the "illiberal liberal" gallery though he will never have their approval!

2. Even now, when it was forces to *react* by the current case and the SC's very strident *initial* comments, it still is appealing to the SC to frame the rules/directions for all platform. In a sense, it still wants to portray any regulation as coming from the SC and NOT the GOI and thus still playing for the "illebral liberal" gallery.

It is not only shirking its responsibility BUT also forcing the SC to further encroach on the territory of the executive by making such a plea!

3. This GOI in general has had a very poor media strategy and most of its actions have been reactive and as afterthoughts. I have always been critical of such an approach as I have shared before on this forum form time to time.

GOI needs to shed its reticence and *enforce* reasonable standards on all platforms.
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Couldn't have said it better, pankajs!

The Govt is continually ceding space to the judiciary rather than take them on + seeking approval from the secular-liberandus --> this reflects a lack of courage and ideological conviction
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https://twitter.com/subhash_kak/status/ ... 3097283584
Lamenting that there're more activists than scholars at Indian universities, a friend in Europe writes: "Linguists from Switzerland were commissioned to study and standardise the lexicology of Bhutanese language. For a country that produced Panini etc this a matter of shame."
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Prem Kumar wrote:Couldn't have said it better, pankajs!

The Govt is continually ceding space to the judiciary rather than take them on + seeking approval from the secular-liberandus --> this reflects a lack of courage and ideological conviction
once the judiciary sets a precedence, it will be quoted forever.

there are certain extremely dangereous and reactionary elements currently in play and they are looking for a chance to stick it to the civilizational state.

One guy even went so far as to say publicly at some "conference" abroad that he saw nothing wrong with the judiciary making laws.

Talk of the tyrany of the unelected and the unelectable.

they are looking to establish an absolutism and that will have fatally damaging repercussions for the development of a dharmic state.

didn't Louis XIV say: 'L'etat c'est moi' ('I am the state')

the construct that is being pushed at this moment is:

"we are also the state"

the space was ceded wilfully by the congis after the debacle of the emergency where one particularly craven pillar of our democracy did not have the moral fibre to stand up but chose to abjectly align with the oppressor.

thereafter, the sly narrative was pitched that this should never be allowed to happen again and so vast powers were simply misappropriated and an unassailable authority was sought to be incorporated and subsumed into the body of this one pillar of our democracy. Such undiluted powers coupled with zero accountability and supreme authority resident in an unelected body exist nowhere else on earth where democracy prevails but easy parallels can be immediately drawn to xi's CPC.
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Prem Kumar wrote:Couldn't have said it better, pankajs!

The Govt is continually ceding space to the judiciary rather than take them on + seeking approval from the secular-liberandus --> this reflects a lack of courage and ideological conviction
I think GOI is gaming the SC and the liberandus. Any coercive action resulting out of this episode puts Undie TV and the likes on notice.
What happens to Sudarshan news is moot as they are part of the nationalist ecosystem and assuming that they have no GOI backing is foolish. The intel leading to many of Sudarshan news' best stories did not just fall into their lap, did it?.

Also 2 years back ... 'Sudarshan News, who?'
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https://twitter.com/Tejasvi_Surya/statu ... 8112004096
Twitter, FB & such foreign social media platforms cannot arbitrarily censor free speech.

While they claim benefits as intermediaries, they interfere with content.

IT Intermediary Guidelines Rules is ultravires parent act & Constitution.

I urge @GoI_MeitY to make amendments.
Rather than trying to pass the buck on to the Supreme court.
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pankajs wrote:https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/n ... 2020-09-23
Numbers explain farm bill ruckus in Rajya Sabha
Records show that a large number of members of major opposition parties did not come to the House on Sunday, and this includes almost a dozen Congress members. This means, just on the basis of attendance records, it can be said that the government was at least 17 votes ahead of the Congress-led Opposition when the debate on the farm bills began.

To defeat the Bills, Opposition needed the support of 18 MPs of the Third Block parties. But during the debate, there were indications that even its allies were deserting while the government seemed set to gain the support of “others”.

BJP sources allege that the Opposition staged a disruption to ensure that there was no vote and its numeric weakness never gets exposed.
If one draws a final tally after the debate was over the government, numbers could have been 110 for the Bills vs 70 against the Bills. This means the Opposition had a clear idea that the government was going to have its way, and for them, the game was lost.
The Congress-led Opposition had moved three dozen-odd amendments to the Bills. If the Opposition had the numbers it could have patiently pressed for a vote on each amendment and brought about drastic changes to the Bill.

In case it wanted a vote on any or all of amendments, the Opposition members could have demanded division (which entails voting) and the chair could not have denied it.

But the Opposition started the din and chaos right after the agriculture minister started replying to the debate and the government unilaterally went ahead with extending the days session beyond the stipulated end at 1 pm.

The Leader of Opposition, Ghulam Nabi Azad, had requested the chair to go for a consensus on this. Refused, the Opposition stormed the Well, realising that now the Bills will be up for passing.

The din ensured that there could be no division as the rule book says that every member has to be in his or her allocated seat for division or voting to take place.

If the Opposition had numbers, a better course could have been sitting in their seats and demand voting.
even poworful peoples and the shiv sena guys except one sainik mp who did not get the memo were absent from the house on the day of the crucial vote.

looks like no body wants to piss off AS.

besides AS would not have gone for the bills had he not ensured and was completely assured of a majority in the upper house.

Besides, being absent during voting is a clear and time honored sign of a fixed match.

the farm bill passage has defanged maha vikas agadi bunch and they have panicked because of the SSR case and are preparing the ground to adapt to a changing reality in MAH when the current govt falls and the inevitable consequential and personal collateral damages kick in. pappu was a bit player here anyway.

Chayan Chatterjee@Satyanewshi·Sep 22

Strength in Rajya Sabha the day #AgricultureBill was passed BJP + allies 110 Congress + 72 Derek O Brien , Sanjay Singh are lying through their teeth that BJP didn't have majority in the house .
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Prem Kumar wrote:
pankajs wrote:A very very interesting point raised by Arnab @republic "How is it that in last few years, Bollywood films are earning much more in China than even in India ?" @iMac_too
Lot more folks talking of this now.
Aamir Khan's Dangal was one of the highest grossing foreign films in China's history. Definitely an audit must be done. Was it really that popular or was that money laundered for influence peddling or other #BreakingIndia acts?

now you know why........... :mrgreen:

terrorist drug money is being whitewashed and converted to white via bollywood peoples like the khans, which is also why the NIA's mandate has been enlarged by gazette notification and again why the NIA has been brought into the SSR/bollywood run drug mafia.

evergreen dawood pals among the Indian politico circles are upto their eyeballs in this treacherous racket.their vast properties in bombay are slowly getting exposed and huge building ownership details are spilling out

@BhagwaanUvacha · Apr 26, 2018

As GST squeeze sets in (ticket sales can be cross verified with film revs) , you will see Indian films suddenly doing well in other countries. Esp ones who will not agree to bank info requests from India. Like China or Pakistan for example.
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pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/sidhant/status/1308819752740028417
[quote]Important sign of deep convergence between Delhi & Riyadh. In a very rare development, both India's External Affairs minister S Jaishankar & National Security Advisors Ajit Doval were present at the Saudi National Day celebration in Delhi.
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Given this cozy relationship I was just wondering whether this can turned into something very useful and fix paxitan:
1. say one of the wanted indian guest in Paxitan go to RSA say for example Umrah-Gumrah, can MBS put them on this special plane and deliver to Bangalore or Delhi( I wont trust them landing in Mumbai or Cochin given the local gobermints!!)
2. Cut the free flow of 'Juice' to Paxitan either permanently or as we say in Hindi 'Einn Mouke per'(say two pronged conflict time )
3. And not just RSA if UAE can also reroute some of the transit passengers to our desh
Asking them not supply chin will be a big ask given the amount Panda imports from the GCC!!!
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chetak wrote:visa details of that wretched creature william dalrymple have emerged :mrgreen:

time to see off such scottish/britshit "literary" scum permanently from dharmic lands and dump him back into the dustbin whence he came from


Complaint filed against William Dalrymple for flouting visa norms, trying to interfere in India’s internal affairs
The complaint states that if found guilty, William Dalrymple's Indian visa must be revoked, future entry prohibited and his named blacklisted as per the rules of government of India. The letter cites instances where the Scottish author has been indulging in activism against the integrity and sovereignty of India.

23 September, 2020
OpIndia Staff

Advocate Monika Arora files complaint against William Darlymple over visa rules violations

Monika Arora registers complaint against Scottish left-wing author William

Senior Advocate Monika Arora, one of the authors of the the book ‘Delhi Riots 2020: The Untold Story’ has filed a complaint with the Consular, Passport and Visa Division of Ministry of External Affairs against the left wing Scottish historian William Dalrymple for violating Visa conditions and deliberately engaging in activities that interfere with India’s internal affairs.

In her complaint, Supreme Court advocate Monika Arora has accused Scottish national William Dalrymple of interfering in country’s internal affairs by putting out public statements, interviews that concern India’s democratic and political processes.

William Dalrymple is a Scottish national who holds an Indian Business Visa. He regularly visits India, stays for long durations and resides mostly in Delhi, says the complaint. It added further that any foreign national must adhere to activities permitted under that specific visa.

“It has been observed however that Mr Dalrymple has been deliberately engaging in activities that interfere with India’s internal affairs,” the complainant Monika Arora alleged in her complaint.


Citing instances of deporation of various foreign nationals who were deported, blacklisted, cancelled or asked to leave India for involving in anti-CAA protests, Monika Arora in her complaint said that Dalrymple has been actively canvassing against the CAA, peddling half-truths, commenting against the Indian Government and making snide remarks against Indian citizens.

Monika Arora has listed several instances where Darlymple’s statements and articles have been against India’s integrity, sovereignty and displayed a blatant bias against a democratically elected government.

Monika Arora’s letter has urged the ministry for a thorough investigation into Dalrymple’s violation of visa rules, and strict action against him. The complaint states that if found guilty, William Darlymple’s Indian visa must be revoked, future entry prohibited and his named blacklisted as per the rules of government of India.

William Dalrymple was behind the withdrawal of ‘Delhi Riots’ book
Arora said that the Scottish national had admitted to be one of the key instigators behind the withdrawal of the book “Delhi Riots 2020: The Untold Story” and had pressurized, blackmailed and intimidated the publisher Bloomsbury India to withdraw her book.

In the complaint, Monika Arora asked the External affairs ministry regarding on what mandate did Dalrymple has as a foreigner to trample on her freedom of speech and expression granted to her as an Indian citizen under the Constitution of India.

“In the past, it was been found that Mr. Dalrymple has regularly penned articles on the Hon’ble Prime Minister Sh. Narendra Modi, wrongly alluding to him having been implicated in the 2002 Gujarat riots, which is wholly untrue in light of extensive court proceedings that have concluded to the contrary,” the complaint noted.

The Scottish self-proclaimed historian William Dalrymple, joining hands with Islamists and left-liberal lobby, had pressurized the publishing house Bloomsbury to withdraw the book titled ‘Delhi Riots 2020: The Untold Story’.


“I’m extremely grateful to @DalrympleWill for his efforts in putting a stop to this shameful bit of state propaganda. It could not have happened without him”, Islamist Aatish Taseer had revealed later.

Complaint filed against left-wing media outlets, Islamists

Earlier, Senior Advocate Monika Arora had filed a complaint with the Delhi Police Commissioner against Bloomsbury India and several leftist Islamists over the abrupt withdrawal of the book by the Publication house.

A police complaint was filed against Bloomsbury India, leftist portals The Quint and Newslaundry, and far-left ‘activists’- Saket Gokhale, Arfa Sherwani, Nandini Sunder, Aatish Tasser, William Dalrymple, Meena Kandasamy for the offence of criminal breach of trust, cheating, mischief, misappropriation of property under Sections 403, 405, 406, 409, 415, 420, 425, 426 of IPC.

In the complaint, the authors of the book accused the named parties of maliciously receiving, retaining and propagating stolen copy of the manuscript of the to be published book ‘Delhi Riots 2020: The Untold Story’.

Days after Bloomsbury India had decided to withdraw the publication of the book ‘Delhi Riots 2020: The Untold Story’, the publishing house had allegedly leaked the manuscript of the book on WhatsApp and had also shared it with a few media organisations.

Bloomsbury India had suddenly decided to withdraw the publication of the book ‘Delhi Riots 2020: The Untold Story’ after being bullied by the left-liberals and Islamists on social media.

Just a note to chetak and whoever wrote the quoted section, there is no such thing as a "scottish National". They are British or UK nationals. Scotland is not a separate country (yet!)
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Aldonkar wrote:
chetak wrote:visa details of that wretched creature william dalrymple have emerged :mrgreen:

time to see off such scottish/britshit "literary" scum permanently from dharmic lands and dump him back into the dustbin whence he came from


Complaint filed against William Dalrymple for flouting visa norms, trying to interfere in India’s internal affairs

Just a note to chetak and whoever wrote the quoted section, there is no such thing as a "scottish National". They are British or UK nationals. Scotland is not a separate country (yet!)

not according to the scots. :)
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chetak wrote:
Aldonkar wrote:

Just a note to chetak and whoever wrote the quoted section, there is no such thing as a "scottish National". They are British or UK nationals. Scotland is not a separate country (yet!)

not according to the scots. :)
Scotland is a well-defined country that is part of the UK. Dalrymple is a UK citizen/passport holder, but is also considered a Scottish national. India should start dealing separately with these various countries of the UK.
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I hadn't seen this posted in the previous pages. This is a very interesting view of the murky world of defence journalism of the lutyens kind, apart from a systematic and brutal takedown of Rajeev Sharma the spy.. We need more such exposé.

Thread on journalist Rajeev Sharma by Rakesh Krishnan Simha
Thread on journalist Rajeev Sharma who has been arrested by the Delhi Police for spying for China.
1. In 2011 I started writing for Russia Beyond, a Russian government media outlet. 90% of my stories were on defence.

2. My stories got a lot of traction in the global media and think tanks. But for me that was just a side dish. Main course was public who loved my defence stories. Naturally, my column caused a lot of heartburn in Lutyens media.

3. There were deadbeats like Jyoti Malhotra who wrote a couple of articles and were unceremoniously kicked out by the Russians who realised that these Lutyens journalists were pathetic at their work. Several Lutyens looters begged RBTH for a regular column.

4. I enjoyed a fantastic rapport with my Russian editors. They would keep me informed of Lutyens creeps approaching them, saying they would write better articles for RBTH than Rakesh Krishnan Simha.

5. The Russians were shocked and amused by their pitch: “Get rid of Rakesh. I have inside connections. I know Sonia Gandhi personally. I know the defence secretary. I know the IAF chief. I can give you exclusives. Etc”

6. Among such characters was Rajeev Sharma. The Russian editors described him as one of the shadiest writers to have ever approached them. He claimed direct links in the Defence Ministry. His offer was: Give me guaranteed 4 articles a month and I’ll give you Pulitzer stuff.
<Face with tears of joy>

7. They decided to test him out and threw a few bones in his direction. Each of his stories was cringeworthy. Based on a single alleged quote from a “senior defence ministry bureaucrat”, he would spin a story which he would flog as an exclusive.

8. I asked them why they allowed Sharma to tarnish RBTH’s standing by letting him write crazy stuff that even NDTV wouldn’t publish. They said, just like you guys in India have anti national journalists, we too have JNU type fools who don’t care about Russia’s reputation.

9. There was one particular editor who allowed these Lutyens to write for RBTH and since the Russians worked through consensus they tolerated liars like Rajeev Sharma.

10. Rajeev Sharma would write one thing in the Russian media and the exact opposite in Global Times. For instance, he wrote a story for RBTH on why Russia was India's best defence partner. Days later he spun the same story as a negative.
<Down pointing backhand index.>

11. My January 2014 email to RBTH: "Re our conversation, links to Sharma's stories where he runs with the hares and hunts with the hounds. How can anyone have any credibility if they tweak the same story to fit into the ideological requirements of different news outlets."

12. RBTH told Rajeev Sharma to bugger off. But like a weed that won't die, he sold his snake oil to Moscow based RT where he wrote a few stories based on fake quotes from the MEA or the Defence Ministry.

13. This really pissed off the Russians. One of the editors emailed me after this: "I have been assured that the embassy will talk to RT about that scumbag... He'll never be able to set foot in Russian territory either."

14. Rajeev Sharma was always referred to as either a "scamster" or "scumbag" by people who dealt with him. After becoming persona non grata in Russia, he sold his snake oil to First Post, a den of liberal, secular and anti Indian journalists.

15. And that's where he may have been recruited by the Chinese government intelligence agencies. His sources were weak as they were most likely low to mid level Defence Ministry and MEA bureaucrats. But even such people have access to classified documents of their higher ups.

16. During my early journalism years I knew the top bureaucrats often left documents on their desks or cabinets when they went out for lunch or a quick meeting, and their peons had full access to these documents. Rajeev Sharma was likely using similar contacts to acquire secrets.

17. Masquerading as a journalist,
Rajeev Sharma got access to enter various ministries and make contact with (probably unsuspecting) bureaucrats who supplied him with official secrets that he passed on to his Chinese handlers.

18. But Rajeev Sharma is most likely a bottom feeder. The real heavyweights of espionage are likely to be people like Shekhar Gupta, N.Ram, Sitamaram Yechury, Brinda Karat and Rahul Gandhi who have much greater access to official secrets.

19. Remember the Rafale document that The Hindu procured and brazenly published? It had markings and notes by a hierarchy of senior bureaucrats. You can imagine why former KGB general Oleg Kalugin once said, "India leaked like a sieve. The entire country was up for sale."

20. Spies like Rajeev Sharma need to be sentenced to life in prison without parole. They should not be given Mickey Mouse sentences like 6-8 years with parole in 3 years. Like termites, traitors destroy the country from within. They pose a greater threat than external enemy.
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https://twitter.com/jsaideepak/status/1 ... 9708566528
1. Absolutely scintillating judgement delivered by d Madurai Bench of the Madras HC on 22/9/2020 in a petition filed by Shri @trramesh, President of d @indiccollective, challenging a tender notification issued by d Executive Officer of d Palani Temple. Sharing a few screenshots.
3. The Court has recognised that the EO overstayed his welcome without justification.
4. "The tender notification has been issued by an official who is standing on this ice. Its tenuous nature has already been set out."
5. "Referring to certain disturbing developments in the State of Andhra Pradesh, today's editorial in the New Indian Express says thus: “...Reconstituting temple trust boards with eminent Hindus and men of impeccable character would be a good start..."
6. "Leaving the temples in the care of the bureaucracy and politicians hasn't helped...”These words are equally relevant to the State of Tamil Nadu." These are observations of the High Court. Absolutely scintillating work by Shri @trramesh
! Made my day!
7. So not only has the High Court struck down the tender notification issued by the Executive Officer, the very appointment/continuance of the EO/Fit Person to the Palani Temple has been struck down. Kudos to Shri @trramesh!
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Someone a while back wanted to know why Cocos Island, Australia was important and what it offered to India. The answer ...

https://twitter.com/detresfa_/status/13 ... 3381522437
Exploring recent agreements, joint exercises, known & expected deployments here is a map plotting the potential #IndianOcean coverage the #IndianNavy could soon enjoy.

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My reading of MAD algorithm is that they believe that the direct fight for many indic causes is useless without ensuring certain fundamentals to make sure that it can't be turned back in 15 years timeframe when green population numbers would have been increased to cause more issues. Not sure how they plan to achieve it but one can assume that they at least would be observing next few election results to see how the power is being maintained. Would Yogi be back in UP or not?
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Along with Diego Garcia which falls roughly in the middle of the map, the coverage will be total.
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