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Shashi Tharoor
@ShashiTharoor
The Covaxin has not yet had Phase 3 trials. Approval was premature and could be dangerous.
@drharshvardhan
should please clarify. Its use should be avoided till full trials are over. India can start with the AstraZeneca vaccine in the meantime.
@ShashiTharoor
The Covaxin has not yet had Phase 3 trials. Approval was premature and could be dangerous.
@drharshvardhan
should please clarify. Its use should be avoided till full trials are over. India can start with the AstraZeneca vaccine in the meantime.
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^^ The turd is shilling for British vaccine while raising doubts about home-grown Indian vaccine. He is loyal to his white masters. Lot of money to be made by vaccine sellers in India, so expect all native sepoys to be activated by the Whites to run down any Indian solution.
He is lying too
Coronavirus | Data on Covaxin phase-3 trials submitted to DCGI: Bharat Biotech
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/healt ... 482985.ece
Tharoor has said the above while retweeting this handle:
So looks like beginning of a "discredit Covaxin" campaign by Whites. Typically, an anti-Covaxin message will be posted by some shady handles. Influencers will then be paid to amplify by retweeting and adding their comment. Soon this will be circulating on Twitter and mainstream media will start doing stories like "There is a Twitter storm questioning the validity of Covaxin." This is how it is done.
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Added later:
Congress questions DGCI nod to indigenous Covid vaccine, BJP says Opposition not proud of 'anything Indian'
Congress leaders have raised concern over approval for the restricted use of Bharat Biotech's 'Covaxin' without its phase 3 trials, with Shashi Tharoor saying it is "premature and could be dangerous".
Jairam Ramesh, Anand Sharma, Tharoor leading this campaign -- all three are cat's paw of whites.
He is lying too
Coronavirus | Data on Covaxin phase-3 trials submitted to DCGI: Bharat Biotech
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/healt ... 482985.ece
Tharoor has said the above while retweeting this handle:
The profile of this handle states: "The purpose of my tweet is to raise d voice against d evils like Corruption, Communalism, Casteism n Hindutva in simple and plain common man's language."Citizen_Politics
@CitizenPolitix_
Replying to @Jairam_Ramesh and @drharshvardhan
There is big lobby promoting this at cost of risking public health. Covaxin is not even updated in vaccine tracker yet. No conclusive reports updated in any medical journal. @WHO not even listed this. This is unethical and compromised. Lot of underreporting happening on this.
So looks like beginning of a "discredit Covaxin" campaign by Whites. Typically, an anti-Covaxin message will be posted by some shady handles. Influencers will then be paid to amplify by retweeting and adding their comment. Soon this will be circulating on Twitter and mainstream media will start doing stories like "There is a Twitter storm questioning the validity of Covaxin." This is how it is done.
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Congress questions DGCI nod to indigenous Covid vaccine, BJP says Opposition not proud of 'anything Indian'
Congress leaders have raised concern over approval for the restricted use of Bharat Biotech's 'Covaxin' without its phase 3 trials, with Shashi Tharoor saying it is "premature and could be dangerous".
Jairam Ramesh, Anand Sharma, Tharoor leading this campaign -- all three are cat's paw of whites.
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he and other paid off turds like him are pushing for the pfizer and other imports. They have all also been cleared for the very same emergency approval and under similar regulatory constraints.IndraD wrote:Shashi Tharoor
@ShashiTharoor
The Covaxin has not yet had Phase 3 trials. Approval was premature and could be dangerous.
@drharshvardhan
should please clarify. Its use should be avoided till full trials are over. India can start with the AstraZeneca vaccine in the meantime.
in the meanwhile, phase 3 work is going on for all vaccines.
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Something must be happening right for this "historian" to cry to the white masters for washingtonpost trash to publish . And the usual support from the miserable ilk of audrey truschke etc. She thinks she hit bottom- I hope this is just the beginning for sellouts like her.
Edited to remove link. Apologies.
Edited to remove link. Apologies.
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Please remove this linkKaivalya wrote:Something must be happening right for this "historian" to cry to the white masters. And the usual support from the miserable ilk of audrey truschke etc. She thinks she hit bottom- I hope this is just the beginning for sellouts like her
washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/india-romila-thapar-dissent/2021/01/02/1a79ca54-4070-11eb-b58b-1623f6267960_story.html
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The writer of that piece is also an Indian convert. Another example of how conversion to monotheism changes one's nationality and converts conspire with their master races against India.Kaivalya wrote:Something must be happening right for this "historian" to cry to the white masters. And the usual support from the miserable ilk of audrey truschke etc. She thinks she hit bottom- I hope this is just the beginning for sellouts like her
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html
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^many folks loose sleep over trollish articles on WP, NYT etc
Op-eds used to be respected many years back. Some newspapers used to sell solely because of them. Today they are almost entirely ignored. Swaminathan iyer, swapan dasgupta, shekar gupta etc etc all used to have dedicated blogspot. They used to call themselves atheist hindus, cry about advani and go on and on about laissez-faire economics. They're blogspots do not receive any traffic anymore and they're all forgotten today.
BR too had a history of following many firangi op-ed writers - uneven cohen, christine fair etc. People thought they had a voice that knocked the doors of the policy makers. They've all disappeared along with their careers. Print media(e-newspapers included) is dead.
Op-eds used to be respected many years back. Some newspapers used to sell solely because of them. Today they are almost entirely ignored. Swaminathan iyer, swapan dasgupta, shekar gupta etc etc all used to have dedicated blogspot. They used to call themselves atheist hindus, cry about advani and go on and on about laissez-faire economics. They're blogspots do not receive any traffic anymore and they're all forgotten today.
BR too had a history of following many firangi op-ed writers - uneven cohen, christine fair etc. People thought they had a voice that knocked the doors of the policy makers. They've all disappeared along with their careers. Print media(e-newspapers included) is dead.
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This may go to Internal Security thread.
Operation to rescue hostage reveals 200m-long India-Bangladesh tunnel
Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst
Operation to rescue hostage reveals 200m-long India-Bangladesh tunnel
Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst
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MNREGA payments went to Bangladeshis; Bengal TMC panchayat leader under scanner
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... trLtK.html
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... trLtK.html
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Thanks for your suggestions on govt-free temple management - KLN Murthy ji, Suraj ji & M Saini ji.. would be worth compiling your thoughts & writing up a white paper.
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Corrosive "azadi" slogans from shaheenbagh have led to this reaction as people have become aware and have started to object as to why they are being disingenuously fed halal when halal is religiously haram for Hindus, sikhs, dalits and xtians who are forbidden from using halal products.
these ropers have long ago begun certifying even items like green tea as halal. rice, wheat, dals, cooking oils and whatnot are already in the halal bag.
how does rice, wheat, dals, cooking oils seeds, tea etc grown mostly by non muslim farmers, processed by non muslim companies miraculously acquire a halal character by the payment of licensing fees and and the insidious tagging by a halal label on the packaging.
this is nothing but a guileful jizya tax being imposed on others in a democratic country and the loot in the name of halal certification globally may extend to the vast forced halal product market which is expected to grow from 1.4 trillion U.S. dollars in 2017 to around 2.6 trillion by 2024.
this halal product certification industry excludes all but muslims and also ensures that no non muslim can ever break into this lucrative monopoly
why are we such willing participants in this organized loot and plunder orchestrated by bearded madarasa schooled jehadi mullahs
these ropers have long ago begun certifying even items like green tea as halal. rice, wheat, dals, cooking oils and whatnot are already in the halal bag.
how does rice, wheat, dals, cooking oils seeds, tea etc grown mostly by non muslim farmers, processed by non muslim companies miraculously acquire a halal character by the payment of licensing fees and and the insidious tagging by a halal label on the packaging.
this is nothing but a guileful jizya tax being imposed on others in a democratic country and the loot in the name of halal certification globally may extend to the vast forced halal product market which is expected to grow from 1.4 trillion U.S. dollars in 2017 to around 2.6 trillion by 2024.
this halal product certification industry excludes all but muslims and also ensures that no non muslim can ever break into this lucrative monopoly
why are we such willing participants in this organized loot and plunder orchestrated by bearded madarasa schooled jehadi mullahs
Govt removes word HALAL from @APEDADOC
Now all are eligible to register. Halal certification NOT mandatory.
No discrimination. One country, One Law.
It’s message to all hotels, restaurants others deceitfully serving Halal on Sly.
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at last, someone in the govt is not hesitant about speaking the truth

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 097957.cms
Farm laws won’t be repealed, government tells farmers’ leaders
The break continued for more than an hour with no signs of any breakthrough as the government also remained firm on not repealing the laws and is believed to have suggested a panel to take the matter forward.
Farm laws won’t be repealed, government tells farmers’ leaders
The break continued for more than an hour with no signs of any breakthrough as the government also remained firm on not repealing the laws and is believed to have suggested a panel to take the matter forward.
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IBTL. Need a 2021 thread
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I have been thinking long about this, but hit a dead end regarding the misuse. So i am trying to keep it simple.Suraj wrote:Thanks for your inputs on this. My thought process runs like this - I think one of the impediments to the question of freeing temples is 'and then what ?' I don't want a USSR-redux at this level - an existing broken system falling apart only to be replaced by many small fiefdoms of anarchy. In my view, the strongest impetus for this will come from a simple approach that can be replicated successfully.
Some necessities:
* The administrative apparatus should be low on bureaucratic interest. It should not turn into a den of influence peddling and 'life chairman' nonsense like some regional sammelan/mandram/associations are. Those in charge should be in it because it gives them a living wage but primarily because of their devotion and not their hunger for power. The idea of a parliamentary apparatus / CxOs etc gives me a headache in this regard...
* A modern investment vehicle for temple wealth is needed, that enables generally hands off wealth management that can then enable the temple to fund charitable activities, education, health and other social care activities. This IMHO needs involvement of entities like LIC to establish long term annuity/trust investment vehicles that are run generally hands off by professional fund managers.
* Taxation must be exactly the same for all religions. Absolutely no compromise possible here.
* People should be able to easily associate with their local temple, or switch to a new one when they transfer. It builds communities, and establishes kinship groups locally. A new member is welcomed and invited to be part of prayer activities, to volunteer in charitable actions etc.
* Temples must be modern, clean, sanitary and inspiring. Yes they can be old, stepped in tradition, but they must be clean and modern in terms of amenities and 'quality of life' for worshippers. Hindus going to pray need to all come out of the temple feeling proud and happy with the state of their places of worship.
This is fundamentally a conglomerate structure with franchise level entities. It needs to be viewed as a sophisticated business, with the best business management practices at this level being used to run it.
The temples can be organised as a trust with a group of temples or maybe on the basis of sects (like Vaishnavite, Shivite and Shakti grouping with a different one for Sai Baba Trusts).
1. The committee can be formed based on local rules, but would like some cooling off periods for members (sort of what Supreme Court did for BCCI).
2. The temples should be run by practicing Hindus only (though this would be difficult to verify).
3. The temples should be open for all castes, creed and gender in general with the exceptions of specific temple following traditions (like Ayappa Swami Temple in Sabarimala or the Amman temple near Swami temple which allows for only woman to enter).
4. The temples should focus only on spiritual and religious events to start off with. They shouldn't be running schools or colleges other than what they have currently. they should try to repair the temples that are dilapidated state and provide facilities for devotees to have a safe and contentful darshan and puja. The TTD (Tirumala Tirupati Devastanam takes care of the nearby temples in Tirupati through their Trusts).
5. The govt if at all has any involvement should be only through a liasion officer that has no oversight power or rule making ability. His/Her work will be to communicate what the temple devotees and the temple management needs ( putting a new road or transportation permissions for the temple to execute or expansion of sanitation and rest places for devotees).
6. Govt shouldn't take any money from the temples and the money should go to the temple trusts to manage their affairs. The temple trust funds should only be manged by the committee and not have any power to use it for their personal benefits.
7. once temples start flourishing, they can then expand to run schools, colleges or sponsor kids education and so on.
These are the things i can think after a little thought, but even here there are loopholes. How these are to be fixed I am still drawing a blank.
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There is no need to verify that they are practicing Hindus in private life. They don't even have to be. What is really needed is - that these individuals should, in a public avowal, reject the notion of "salvation only through surrender to a personality" (regardless of who that personality is - i.e., endorse the notion of "multiplicity of ways to reach God"). An Abrahamic would not do this - if (s)he does, (s)he is as good as a Dharmic.venkat_kv wrote: 2. The temples should be run by practicing Hindus only (though this would be difficult to verify).
These individuals in position of power should also pass certain tests which look for their understanding of temple issues, sensitivity towards local temple issues (such as restrictions on entry), financial management, etc.
Any temple which enforces restrictions is free to do so, so long as it declares its rationale up-front, so long as the general Hindu community accepts this rationale (activists may please buzz off - don't know how to differentiate or enforce this though), and so long as it uniformly enforces these restrictions with no arbitrariness. So Sabarimalai would be "the deity is celibate, and has personally and humbly requested all women of child-bearing age not to jeopardize his private meditations." Good enough. So long as this rationale is not affected, other reasonable activities by "restricted groups" should not be prohibited. For example, Sabarimalai:3. The temples should be open for all castes, creed and gender in general with the exceptions of specific temple following traditions (like Ayappa Swami Temple in Sabarimala or the Amman temple near Swami temple which allows for only woman to enter).
4. The temples should focus only on spiritual and religious events to start off with. They shouldn't be running schools or colleges other than what they have currently. they should try to repair the temples that are dilapidated state and provide facilities for devotees to have a safe and contentful darshan and puja. The TTD (Tirumala Tirupati Devastanam takes care of the nearby temples in Tirupati through their Trusts).
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These are the things i can think after a little thought, but even here there are loopholes. How these are to be fixed I am still drawing a blank.
a. allows women to come to the temple and walk around freely, just not into the deity's private chambers
b. allows women to even enter the deity's private chambers, so long as they are not in the child-bearing age (i.e. - younger or older women)
However, restrictions based on caste should be a strict no-no (merely as a matter of practicality - India is better off without this millstone of "caste discrimination").
In addition, I'd still humbly submit, that it is a good idea to get devotees to greatly scale down donations, and compensate with life-long seva.
EDIT:
Reading back, I see that these lines could be misinterpreted:
"There is no need to verify that they are practicing Hindus in private life. They don't even have to be."
This is not to say that non-Hindus should be allowed to serve on these temple boards, it simply means - the burden of verifying that they really are Hindus, can be simplified to the extent that: they are nominally Hindus; they publicly avow the Hindu ethos; their private life does not impact the ethos which they are serving (i.e., no proselytizing on the sly on behalf of some other faith, no accepting iffy donations...). Just that there is no need to strictly verify that they perform puja every day at home, etc.
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I do a lot research in Blockchain ...
You guys might have heard of DAO or Decentralized Autonomous Organization
https://aragon.org/dao
This link describes what is DAO and pros/cons. DAO is exactly what was envisioned to reduce centralized control of people
The more I look at it temple issue, the more I see this is a model worth applying ...

My High level thoughts:
Lets say we create network just for temples ... Major temples are registered in our network/confirmed and validated. Each of them can enlist members/volunteers of that temple who have to be referred and approved by other members of the DAO. They all are stake holders in that temple. Members can ask devotees of that temple to invest/donate/sponsor events at that temple. Each DAO will get tokens based on that donations. The tokens represent the value of the donations. The members of these DAOs vote on how to channel that spending by voting ... could be medical camp/food donation /events at the temple etc.
This model can be extended to promote volunteers who participate in dharmic organizations associated with these temples.
Similar model being used by some one in China
https://cointelegraph.com/news/71-milli ... based-dapp
71+ Million User Volunteer Platform to Launch Blockchain-Based DApp
Reportedly the world’s largest volunteer service platform, Zhiyuan Hui, has announced its partnership with crypto startup EveriToken.
You guys might have heard of DAO or Decentralized Autonomous Organization
https://aragon.org/dao
This link describes what is DAO and pros/cons. DAO is exactly what was envisioned to reduce centralized control of people
Online communities are like an open green field. People can walk around, meet others, have conversations, share ideas, play fun games.
DAOs let people turn these fields into more permanent and productive spaces. Where strangers can trust each other, make decisions as a group, reward individuals for their contributions, and share in the common benefit.
The more I look at it temple issue, the more I see this is a model worth applying ...

My High level thoughts:
Lets say we create network just for temples ... Major temples are registered in our network/confirmed and validated. Each of them can enlist members/volunteers of that temple who have to be referred and approved by other members of the DAO. They all are stake holders in that temple. Members can ask devotees of that temple to invest/donate/sponsor events at that temple. Each DAO will get tokens based on that donations. The tokens represent the value of the donations. The members of these DAOs vote on how to channel that spending by voting ... could be medical camp/food donation /events at the temple etc.
This model can be extended to promote volunteers who participate in dharmic organizations associated with these temples.
Similar model being used by some one in China
https://cointelegraph.com/news/71-milli ... based-dapp
71+ Million User Volunteer Platform to Launch Blockchain-Based DApp
Reportedly the world’s largest volunteer service platform, Zhiyuan Hui, has announced its partnership with crypto startup EveriToken.
Chinese non-profit Zhiyuan Hui — reportedly the world’s largest volunteer service platform — has announced its partnership with token economy infrastructure firm EveriToken. The news was announced Jan. 12 in an official EveriToken blog post.
As of December 2018, Zhiyuan Hui reportedly serves over 430,000 non-profits, and its 71 million users are reported to have worked over 100 million service hours via its platform. According to the blog post, the United Nations-issued China Volunteer Service Economic Value Measurement Report has valued the platform at over $500 million.
In order to manage this astonishing volume of users and service hours, Zhiyuan Hui has reportedly decided to build a transparent volunteer tracking platform on the EveriToken public blockchain.
Via the new system, governments, enterprises and non-profits will be able to award an estimated almost one million volunteers per day with “Yi Coin” points in exchange for their volunteer activity and service hours.
Volunteer data will be recorded on-chain onto what EveriToken terms an “open public welfare ledger.” The blog post continues to outline that:
“[T]he everiToken-based system provides audit trails for various stakeholders with access rights, including governments and funders, eliminating the possibility of fraud for the various poverty alleviation projects and government foundation subsidy programs managed by Zhiyuan Hui.”
Yi Coins can reportedly already be used to buy basic goods — such as food, electronics and hygiene products — from almost 100 unmanned retail locations, using EveriToken’s micropayments solution.
At press time, Zhiyuan Hui has not responded to Cointelegraph’s request for comment on the partnership.
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Homegrown apps capture 40% market share of TikTok since ban (ET)
Hajaar happy to see this. Should provide some protection to homegrown firms in the initial years and let them grow before opening the doors to the storm winds of phoren competition from big-tech and cheeni spy-tech.
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Hajaar happy to see this. Should provide some protection to homegrown firms in the initial years and let them grow before opening the doors to the storm winds of phoren competition from big-tech and cheeni spy-tech.
Only.
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Really against any type of decentralized structure for temple management. Regarding DAOs, how would the original members be selected who can approve members in future through referral? Besides there are too many dhimmi hindus who have drunk the sikular cool-aid. How would such a system work in places like Kerala, WB etc where majority of hindus live in delusion?
Imo a great test for any alternate management would be imagining how they would deal with current situations like the one in Andhra etc Can individual temples acting on their own ever hope to push back against the billions of rolers or the friday mob of ropers?
We have to have a centralized structure which can concentrate resources on problem areas as and when required. Also only when you have a central authority can you ever hope to put in practice ideas like an investment vehicle or manipulate elections.
Here's what the LDS church did with "tithe" of just 16 million members under them.
LDS Church discloses the $37.8 billion stock portfolio of its biggest investment fund
Imo a great test for any alternate management would be imagining how they would deal with current situations like the one in Andhra etc Can individual temples acting on their own ever hope to push back against the billions of rolers or the friday mob of ropers?
We have to have a centralized structure which can concentrate resources on problem areas as and when required. Also only when you have a central authority can you ever hope to put in practice ideas like an investment vehicle or manipulate elections.
Here's what the LDS church did with "tithe" of just 16 million members under them.
LDS Church discloses the $37.8 billion stock portfolio of its biggest investment fund
Could individual temples acting in a decentralized structure achieve this?The investment fund, called Ensign Peak Advisors, quietly submitted the filing Feb. 14 to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The stock portfolio appears to represent a large portion of the total value of Ensign Peak, which whistleblowing brothers Lars and David Nielsen said in a complaint sent to the IRS controls assets worth at least $100 billion.
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Ideally each temple should be managed by a "(mostly local) committee of believers", respectful of the temple's traditions and histories (as contained in the relevant sthal puranas), and who also individually have a sensibility of the wider dharma and are connected nationwide as well as globally...
This would allow the best of all worlds:
1. Temple funds of that specific temple being in the hands of believers of that specific temple and being used for welfare of the adherents of that specific temple/ sampradaya... say 80%
2. Balance being used for utthhan of the wider dharmic community
3. Potent potential mobilization force to guard dharma on a nationwide scale a sand when necessary... which we know by painful experience is always required as the guards themselves raid the guard house (governments- both state and central)
Best such body would be for the RSS/ Dharma Sansad... that would also allow for us Dharmics not putting all our eggs in one basket (BJP) as well as ensuring a degree of sustainable independence.
But that is precisely also the reason why governments don't let go... any government... including BJP so far... personally my biggest disappointment along with education/ culture...
This would allow the best of all worlds:
1. Temple funds of that specific temple being in the hands of believers of that specific temple and being used for welfare of the adherents of that specific temple/ sampradaya... say 80%
2. Balance being used for utthhan of the wider dharmic community
3. Potent potential mobilization force to guard dharma on a nationwide scale a sand when necessary... which we know by painful experience is always required as the guards themselves raid the guard house (governments- both state and central)
Best such body would be for the RSS/ Dharma Sansad... that would also allow for us Dharmics not putting all our eggs in one basket (BJP) as well as ensuring a degree of sustainable independence.
But that is precisely also the reason why governments don't let go... any government... including BJP so far... personally my biggest disappointment along with education/ culture...
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It's a 2016 report.
Nevertheless, the disproportionate number of women "converting" is remarkable as is the case in many other states too.
This is certainly not a coincidence, by any means.
link: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/thiruva ... 220317.cms

Nevertheless, the disproportionate number of women "converting" is remarkable as is the case in many other states too.
This is certainly not a coincidence, by any means.

link: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/thiruva ... 220317.cms
via@Arunakrishnan6000 in 5 years. And that's from a 2016 report. After the Akhila case, media has stopped publishing anything on LJ. With LDF and UDF, both cosying upto Muslims, there is huge pressure to suppress these cases
But on the ground, Hs and X's have started fighting this majorly
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Looks like Boris Johnson cancelled his India trip citing Covid crisis in UK as the reason. Don't know if the ISI/Sikh lobby in UKstan which put pressure on him or if indeed the worsening covid back home was the actual reason. Whatever it is the protesting "farmers" and their BIF handlers will now be forced to adjust the dates for their planned riots. As of yesterday the "farmers" were constructing, yes, building walls and permanent structures on the national highway. As for the shortened Republic Day parade, i hope we have a backup guest planned given the rather late cancellation by Mr Johnson.
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Don't underestimate the the govt.Ambar wrote:Looks like Boris Johnson cancelled his India trip citing Covid crisis in UK as the reason. Don't know if the ISI/Sikh lobby in UKstan which put pressure on him or if indeed the worsening covid back home was the actual reason. Whatever it is the protesting "farmers" and their BIF handlers will now be forced to adjust the dates for their planned riots. As of yesterday the "farmers" were constructing, yes, building walls and permanent structures on the national highway. As for the shortened Republic Day parade, i hope we have a backup guest planned given the rather late cancellation by Mr Johnson.
I see the fine hand of the MEA in all this. A perfect excuse for boris, a much desired outcome for India, and the extraction of the fangs of the "farmer's" protests.
the only real danger now remains from the hundreds of tractors that can be used to bulldoze through the police barricades.
the police will line up containers to fend them off and the congis, commies, jehadis and khalistanis will revert to their default lowest common denominator of violence and mayhem.
pappu will once again take off for some salubrious clime.
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M. Nageswara Rao IPS @MNageswarRaoIPS 2h
How secular it is when AP Govt kabjafied 24,846 Temples but not Mosques/Churches?
If you @ysjagan are keen to get rid of nuisance, then please return Temples to Hindu society by making a law similar to Sikh Gurdwara Act?
If you are interested I can make a presentation about it.
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Congress and Dr Tharoor trying to cause divisions in Indian society on gender lines.
Tharoor quoting Kamal Haasan. If I tell my wife that she gets paid in exchange for her services to the house, I'll have to find a find a nice comfy place on the couch.
What is Tharoor smoking?

Kangana replies and virtually says that he is used to paying for "services".
Kangana Ranaut opposes Shashi Tharoor, Kamal Haasan over pay for homemakers: ‘Don’t put a price tag on sex we have with our love’
Tharoor quoting Kamal Haasan. If I tell my wife that she gets paid in exchange for her services to the house, I'll have to find a find a nice comfy place on the couch.
What is Tharoor smoking?

Kangana replies and virtually says that he is used to paying for "services".

Kangana Ranaut opposes Shashi Tharoor, Kamal Haasan over pay for homemakers: ‘Don’t put a price tag on sex we have with our love’
Kangana wrote: “Don’t put a price tag on sex we have with our love, don’t pay us for mothering our own, we don’t need salary for being the Queens of our own little kingdom our home,stop seeing everything as business. Surrender to your woman she needs all of you not just your love/respect/salary.”
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Not his fault sir, that is how both see women. Its give and take for him a transaction, Sunanda was also a transaction which ended up in tragedyKJo wrote:Congress and Dr Tharoor trying to cause divisions in Indian society on gender lines.
Tharoor quoting Kamal Haasan. If I tell my wife that she gets paid in exchange for her services to the house, I'll have to find a find a nice comfy place on the couch.
What is Tharoor smoking?
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Former ISRO SAC Director Tapan Misra reveals he was poisoned with deadly Arsenic Trioxide in 2017: Exclusive Details
Former ISRO SAC Director Tapan Misra reveals he was poisoned with deadly Arsenic Trioxide in 2017: Exclusive Details
The former ISRO SAC Director Tapan Misra has made an explosive revelation about an assassination attempt made on him on 23 May 2017.
5 January, 2021
OpIndia Staff
Former ISRO SAC Director Tapan Misra claims an assassination attempt was made on him in July 2017
Tapan Misra(Source: ISRO)
The former ISRO SAC Director Tapan Misra has made an explosive revelation about an assassination attempt made on him on 23 May 2017. Taking to Facebook, Misra disclosed the long-held secret of how he was poisoned with a deadly Arsenic Trioxide, during a promotion interview from Sci/Eng SF to SG in ISRO HQ at Bangalore.
The former ISRO SAC Director suspects that the fatal dose of poison was probably mixed with chutney along with Dosai, in snacks after lunch. In his Facebook post, the ISRO scientist claimed that it took him two years to recover from the agony and pain caused by the administration of poison.
Misra attributed the cause of assassination attempt to espionage attack, embedded in the government set up, to remove a scientist with the significant contribution of military and commercial importance, like expertise in building Synthetic Aperture Radar.
Misra has alluded American involvement in the assassination attempt on him. He said that an Indian American professor of one of the topmost US university suddenly appeared in his office in July 2019 and asked him to keep mum on the poison attack. He was also threatened with hundreds of emails and on occasions saved by the swiftness of the security agencies.
Misra also lamented about the ISRO hierarchy and his own colleagues who started treating him as a pariah following the attack. Despite his repeated attempts to get justice, Misra contends that two successive ISRO chairmen turned a blind eye to his protestations.
Here is the verbatim statement of the former ISRO SAC Director Tapan Misra as posted on his Facebook account:
Long Kept Secret
We, in ISRO, occasionally heard about the highly suspicious death of Prof. Vikram Sarabhai IN 1971. Also heard occasional doubts about the sudden death of Dr S Srinivasan, Director of VSSC IN 1999. Case of Shri Nambinarayanan in 1994 is well known. But I never thought that I will be at the receiving end of such mystery.
I was poisoned with deadly Arsenic Trioxide on 23rd May 2017, during a promotion interview from Sci/Eng SF to SG in ISRO HQ at Bangalore. The fatal dose was probably mixed with chutney along with Dosai, in snacks after lunch. What followed was nightmare lasting for almost two years Severe loss of blood to the tune of 30-40% through anal bleeding. I barely could come back from Bangalore and be rushed to Zydus Cadila hospital in Ahmedabad. It was followed by severe breathing difficulty, unusual skin eruptions and skin shedding, loss of nails on feet and hands, terrible neurological issues due to hypoxia, skeletal pain, unusual sensations, one suspected heart attack and Arsenic depositions and fungal infections on every inch of skin and internal organs. Treatment was received in Zydus Cadila, TMH-Mumbai and AIIMS-Delhi over a period of two years. Famed forensic specialist, Dr Sudhir Gupta told me that in his whole career, for the first time he was seeing a live specimen of a survivor of the assassination attempt with a fatal dose of assassination grade molecular As2O3. Otherwise, his experience was limited to cadavers.
I am thankful to one of my Director colleagues, present at the same meeting, who warned me on 5th June 2017, of the possibility of poison given to me. Probably, I guess, he witnessed poison mixing in my food. On 7th June, MHA security agency personnel met me and alerted me of Arsenic poisoning. I am thankful to them, as their info helped doctors to focus on exact remedy instead of scratching their heads with unusual signatures of my ailment. Security agencies took me to different cities. I am sure, without their intervention, I would have been dead with multiple organ failure within two to three weeks.
I learnt that this poison is given in molecular level suspension (crystal level is harmless) just after a heavy meal. It is a colourless, odourless, tasteless suspension and hence cannot even be suspected. It gets absorbed through stomach during food ingestion, kills RBCs immediately to such large extent that the fine blood vessels are clogged, leading to heart attacks and strokes within two to three hours and the victim can easily be passed off as a heart attack death.
Fortunately, that day, I did not take lunch. Arsenic passed directly to colon region and most of them got rejected through bleeding. The small remnant created so much damage to my health that I only know and I kept my morale high to face the danger with poise.
The motive appears to be espionage attack, embedded in the Government set up, to remove a scientist with the critical contribution of very large military and commercial significance, like expertise in building Synthetic Aperture Radar. I will also not rule out it as a new modus operandi of adjusting seniority and clear me who was perceived as an obstacle. Whatever may be the reason, it was a great shame for the country and our security apparatus.
What pains me is that ISRO hierarchy and my colleagues tried to shun me as a pariah. I pleaded with two successive Chairmen to help me in getting justice. Kirankumar tried his best to convince me that my earlier case of squamous cell carcinoma is resurrecting. I personally talked to Dr Kasturirangan and Shri Madhavan Nair and they developed cold feet.
What followed was a series of nightmares, along with the severe deterioration of health. I was bombarded with hundreds of threatening emails to keep my mouth shut. I was saved by whiskers, due to alacrity of security agencies, from the massive explosive incident, in which Rs. 100 cr. the lab was destroyed. This happened on 3rd May 2018.
On 19th July 2019, an Indian American professor of one of the topmost US university suddenly appeared in my office. He requested me not to utter a word in future. As a quid pro quo, my IITK grad son will be accommodated in a top-notch college in the USA. I declined and he left my office at 1430 hrs. And my thirty-plus years contributing career was consigned to sinecure position at 1630 hrs. on the same day. I was removed from all responsibilities, including SAC Directorship.
My security was breached and I was poisoned with gaseous poison, probably Hydrogen Cyanide, which hypoxiates leaving no trace, on 12th July 2019. I was hypoxiated severely, leading to convulsion, loss of senses and memory. I survived because of NSG training of my PSO. I was transferred immediately to the hospital, administered ozonised oxygen and had to spend a couple of days in ICU. Hospitalization was followed by a long treatment for hypoxia, which is continuing. Curiously it happened just two days before the planned launch date of Chandrayan 2 on 15th July. Probably to prevent me to be present there on this occasion.
There was a plan to defame me by doctoring the CCTV recording of my room on 23rd and 24th Jan 2020. It still baffles me how this high-security recorder, located in the room of Director, SAC was accessed, contents were digitally edited and played back in analogue for rerecording. CCTV recorders are special recorders which can only be fed in analogue and can be digitally retrieved. The attempt was foiled because of the alertness of security agencies. I still marvel at the cinematographical quality of editing of such an unimpressive fellow like me.
For the last two years, there were mysterious appearances of poisonous snakes like cobra, krait at regular intervals of a few days in my quarter. Karbolic acid vents are put every 10 ft. Yet nobody could prevent intrusions of the snakes. Fortunately, because of my four cats and my security staff, they could be killed or caught alive. Only three months back, we accidentally discovered a carefully laid secret tunnel in my compound and hidden in a trove of banana plantations. Once we blocked the tunnel, all snake intrusions stopped.
Two incidents convinced me that the mysterious people are after me and probably going to hit me hard before my superannuation at the end of this month. They want my mouth shut forever.
1. All the signatures point to deliberate poisoning of my mentally challenged son with Covid 19. The poor boy, who cannot even speak or eat or carry out hygiene activities himself, had to be hospitalized for 10 days, followed by months of complications.
2. There was a failed attempt in poisoning me with Arsenic, probably in the first week of September 2020. It failed, but it was enough to create a signature of quite a good amount of poisoning, leading to skeletal pain, skin peeling and nail dying.
Enough is enough. I have faith in our security apparatus and men. But these mysterious men are much more equipped, trained, lethal and determined to snuff out living witness of the most shameful incident of Indian science. I put forward to Government, intellectuals and fellow scientists and my classmates and teachers, spread across the world, that all efforts should be made to keep me and my family safe and punish these mysterious men. I am convinced that these are the men, embedded in our system, are leading to mysterious deaths of scientists and the destruction of our institutions. These incidents should be wake up call to prevent such nefarious happening to many of our bright minds in future. The nation, which cannot protect their own people who made contributions in building it in the first place, is destined to perish.
OpIndia spoke to Tapan Misra
OpIndia got in touch with Tapan Misra over the same and he confirmed that he had made the post. He further told us, “My sincere request to govt and the political system is that those who build the country, if we do not protect them, if we do not protect our assets, tomorrow our country will perish.”
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A few further thoughts on temples and their assets:
In the modern world, places of worship double as investment portals. Enormous wealth is built upon the inflows from the faithful. Even a small entity like the Mormons have a very powerful organization because of generations of tithed donations snowballing into tens of billions of dollars. The Roman Catholic church's gross assets (liquid investments, real estate, property) are likely in the multiple trillion dollars.
Hinduism is a 'kirana shop' religion in comparison. There are isolated pockets of great income (but not wealth) - Tirupati for example. These, and the religion in general, are a small poor fractured entity competing with Walmarts and Amazons. An entity like Tirupati or Guruvayoor or any major temple ought to have anywhere from $10-250 billion in accumulated wealth given the rate of contributions.
The pressure from outside religions is not because the Gulf has oil and the westerners are rich, but because both entities have accumulated inter-generational wealth, particularly the west. It's like how someone with 30-40 years of savings compares the annual contribution they make, to how much the total value of their wealth has grown to - the latter is multiple orders of magnitude larger.
Yes temples themselves are places of worship and devotion. Devotion is gained by service and charity to ones community. Hinduism needs multiple strong sects that have chains of temples, that in turn grow an enormous corpus of wealth that is professionally managed and gives them the ability to offer education and charity.
Modern Hinduism needs modern distributed administration and effective wealth management to remain safeguarded for generations to follow. Please think 'will this structure remain functional administratively 250 years from now ?' when you come up with some small administrative idea.
In the modern world, places of worship double as investment portals. Enormous wealth is built upon the inflows from the faithful. Even a small entity like the Mormons have a very powerful organization because of generations of tithed donations snowballing into tens of billions of dollars. The Roman Catholic church's gross assets (liquid investments, real estate, property) are likely in the multiple trillion dollars.
Hinduism is a 'kirana shop' religion in comparison. There are isolated pockets of great income (but not wealth) - Tirupati for example. These, and the religion in general, are a small poor fractured entity competing with Walmarts and Amazons. An entity like Tirupati or Guruvayoor or any major temple ought to have anywhere from $10-250 billion in accumulated wealth given the rate of contributions.
The pressure from outside religions is not because the Gulf has oil and the westerners are rich, but because both entities have accumulated inter-generational wealth, particularly the west. It's like how someone with 30-40 years of savings compares the annual contribution they make, to how much the total value of their wealth has grown to - the latter is multiple orders of magnitude larger.
Yes temples themselves are places of worship and devotion. Devotion is gained by service and charity to ones community. Hinduism needs multiple strong sects that have chains of temples, that in turn grow an enormous corpus of wealth that is professionally managed and gives them the ability to offer education and charity.
Modern Hinduism needs modern distributed administration and effective wealth management to remain safeguarded for generations to follow. Please think 'will this structure remain functional administratively 250 years from now ?' when you come up with some small administrative idea.
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Give and take is a step up in these cases. If (rhetorical) you have, all your life, only been taking from women, and if further, you are an egomaniac who, now that you are fading into irrelevance, need to find new and newer ways of virtue signaling and feeling superior to the unwashed masses:Rampy wrote: Not his fault sir, that is how both see women. Its give and take for him a transaction, Sunanda was also a transaction which ended up in tragedy
Then it is obvious that you will stumble upon this revolutionary concept of (material in exchange for - "services") "give and take" in your relationships with women, rather than just "take" which you've been doing so far.
What you won't realize, is that any half-decent male beyond his teenage years is far beyond the stage of regarding (material in exchange for - "services") transactional relationships with women (as opposed to - shall we say - "purely take" relationships) as some kind of women's emancipation. Not realizing this, you will feel so superior and virtuous at this epiphany which you have had, that you will look down on the rest of the male population as "not quite there yet." Even though most of them have long since graduated far above your level.
It is futile for men to try and respond and set this creep right. He will regard it as denial by men who are in an inferior state of development in their relations with women, as compared to him. Because, you see, he can't conceive of a guy who is otherwise. Rather, point it out to your wives, sisters, mothers, and let them lambaste him, and just enjoy the fun. That ego needs to be deflated by a militant female response.
P.S.: This is also the driving principle behind the western virtue-signaling on gender relations in India, such as the "discrimination" at Sabarimalai. They are just beginning to dabble with concepts of gender equality, and they see India as way behind and needing to "catch up" to their advanced liberal ideals. Not realizing that India is far beyond the stage of female emancipation as embodied in the silly concept of "anything you can do, I can do better!"
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That Tapan Misra story is incredible. I don't think a scientist of his caliber, seniority would make up such a story. Or is he sick, and suffering from some delusions.
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250 years is an inordinate amount of time saar, even an AI can't prepare for that.
Judging by the rate the conversions are ongoing, in another 40-50 years there might not even be a need to free hindu temples
Judging by the rate the conversions are ongoing, in another 40-50 years there might not even be a need to free hindu temples

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+1sudarshan wrote: It is futile for men to try and respond and set this creep right. He will regard it as denial by men who are in an inferior state of development in their relations with women, as compared to him.
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the details that he has given are verifiable, one way or the other.Karan M wrote:That Tapan Misra story is incredible. I don't think a scientist of his caliber, seniority would make up such a story. Or is he sick, and suffering from some delusions.
someone from ISRO is bound to react.
he is far too senior to be dismissed out of hand.
but, OTOH, the people who hobbled Nambi Narayanan are still roaming free.
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The thought of delusions briefly flitted across my mind, but it seems very unlikely. The details he provides are all verifiable (doctor names, details on the poison, date of job loss, CCTV hacking, etc.). The only confusing element is - how many attempts were there? May 2017, July 2017, snakes (Karan M wrote:That Tapan Misra story is incredible. I don't think a scientist of his caliber, seniority would make up such a story. Or is he sick, and suffering from some delusions.

Truly scary.
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That's fine - I understand the emphasis you're making. Too many posts are focusing on detailed admin structure descriptions. None of it explains why that particular structure is any good. Start from the problem and work down to what's needed...m_saini wrote:250 years is an inordinate amount of time saar, even an AI can't prepare for that.
Judging by the rate the conversions are ongoing, in another 40-50 years there might not even be a need to free hindu temples
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We have Balakot on one side and abysmal IB failure is both Shaheen Bagh and the Punjab protests.Karan M wrote:That Tapan Misra story is incredible. I don't think a scientist of his caliber, seniority would make up such a story. Or is he sick, and suffering from some delusions.
Hope MAD + IB combine have invested heavily over the last 6 years in planting and cultivating assets within the bureaucracy & other organisations. I understand it takes time , decades even to put a good network in place ( Source: schoolmate in TN Police cadre in same line ) but infiltrating, securing & protecting DRDO, SAC, ADE, RCI, SAC, LRDE should be high on the list for IB.
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Not at all. For years we've been discussing on this very forum about mysterious and untimely deaths of BARC, ISRO, DRDO researchers and scientists. ISRO infact had lost a staggering number of scientists last decade (something over 500 i remember), don't know how many more have died since then. Similarly BARC scientists and researchers related to Dept of Atomic Energy dying under mysterious circumstances have been routinely reported. Just reading B Raman and Amar Bhushan's books on RAW and IB should give us an idea how much work is ahead of the government to fix these agencies .Karan M wrote:That Tapan Misra story is incredible. I don't think a scientist of his caliber, seniority would make up such a story. Or is he sick, and suffering from some delusions.
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Again what is the need to lash out against Telugu community like this. And why immediately jump to BJP as solution. I despise BJP but i was as shocked as anyone at headless statue of Sri Rama. As a Telugu person one can be extremely proud of their contribution to hindu dharma. In fact I would wager it is far higher than any language within india. Whether it is the meticulously made Pauranik films from mayabazar to blockbuster Bahubali or exquisitely well maintained temples like TTD or the huge donations I see whenever I visit a temple in USA, Telugu people contributions are massive .
People are lashing out at Reddy community in one post - are they forgetting the labor of love of Nagi Reddy of Vijaya Vahini studios when painfully recreated all mythologies from Pathaba Bhairavi to Maya Bazar.
I notice this disturbing tendency to grit their teeth at Telugu community at any news instead of grieving with it for cultural losses. And by the way attacking temples and idol smuggling are far higher outside of Telugu lands. Just look at this list here https://news.culturecrime.org/country/india.html - Many are from rajasthan, Mp etc.
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People are lashing out at Reddy community in one post - are they forgetting the labor of love of Nagi Reddy of Vijaya Vahini studios when painfully recreated all mythologies from Pathaba Bhairavi to Maya Bazar.
I notice this disturbing tendency to grit their teeth at Telugu community at any news instead of grieving with it for cultural losses. And by the way attacking temples and idol smuggling are far higher outside of Telugu lands. Just look at this list here https://news.culturecrime.org/country/india.html - Many are from rajasthan, Mp etc.
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