Terroristan - April 15, 2021

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Oct 2021 20:26

headline in paki yawn, (not giving link).

In military shuffle, Lt Gen Nadeem Anjum replaces Lt Gen Faiz Hameed as top spymaster

faiz hameed has "paid the price" for his allegedly "unauthorised" actions in being instrumental in forming a taliban govt that is paki friendly

several paki "surrender specialist" senoir afsaran have been promoted to the next higher rank and the prices of corner plots have skyrocketed.

Y I Patel · Post by **Y I Patel** » 06 Oct 2021 20:36

It might be premature to think that Faiz has been transferred in disgrace. He is now Corps Commander of the Peshawar Corps, which is a prime post under current circumstances. Also, Corps command is a requirement for becoming COAS of Paki Army, so this might be because he is being prepared for that role. However, time will tell.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 06 Oct 2021 20:39

^^^^
Unauthorised, or Non State Acting

Does it mean Tea at SARINA and all that was Non State Acting By acting head of ISI.On other hand Shekh Chili and Khan Sahab also gave statement favouring Talibans. I wonder if those statements were authorised or not.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Oct 2021 23:17

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Oct 2021 23:19

partha wrote:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBBq459UUAE ... at=jpg[img]

the useless bugger has thrown in the towel, before someone beheads him, that is

what about their great verbal diarrhea specialist, their hep and woke NSA moeed yusuf, the hijida par excellence, the one who can charm the pants off niazi and probably does it as part of his routine duties

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Oct 2021 23:27

Y I Patel wrote:It might be premature to think that Faiz has been transferred in disgrace. He is now Corps Commander of the Peshawar Corps, which is a prime post under current circumstances. Also, Corps command is a requirement for becoming COAS of Paki Army, so this might be because he is being prepared for that role. However, time will tell.

he seems to be bucking for bajwa's job

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 06 Oct 2021 23:30

Nothing to worry. It is another RAA conspiracy onlee.
RAW trying to malign Pak Army officers, says Gen (r) Shafaat as Pandora Papers scandal intensifes

ISLAMABAD – Lieutenant General (r) Shafaat Shah has reacted after being named in Pandora Papers terming it another Indian-backed conspiracy to malign the Pakistan Army. Shah took to his official handle to clear the air on the development, saying that he was falsely linked to a London property purchased through an offshore company and that this attempt was backed by the Indian intelligence agency.

“I had bought a flat in London by selling off my plot in Lahore with a title of off-shore. No other business.This is legal as per UK laws. It was reported to Army Authorities and reflected in tax returns. No connection with Akbar Asif. It’s price was less than half of what is quoted,” Shah tweeted.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Oct 2021 23:56

chetak wrote:
partha wrote:

what about their great verbal diarrhea specialist, their hep and woke NSA moeed yusuf, the hijida par excellence, the one who can charm the pants off niazi and probably does it as part of his routine duties

He is busy writing the next strategic dossier on the situation in IIIOOJKLMN.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 06 Oct 2021 23:57

Y I Patel wrote:It might be premature to think that Faiz has been transferred in disgrace. He is now Corps Commander of the Peshawar Corps, which is a prime post under current circumstances. Also, Corps command is a requirement for becoming COAS of Paki Army, so this might be because he is being prepared for that role. However, time will tell.

He has spent 2 years in the position and was transferred to see that he is eligible for the top post. The continuous turmoil and ongoing security situation is only applicable for extending COAS. Doesn't apply to continuity in other important positions

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 07 Oct 2021 00:00

chetak wrote:
partha wrote:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBBq459UUAE ... at=jpg[img]

Looks like someone from the embassy leaked it. Qureshi cant pin his failure on the embassy staff.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Oct 2021 00:11

CalvinH wrote:
chetak wrote:
Looks like someone from the embassy leaked it. Qureshi cant pin his failure on the embassy staff.

of course he can. He is the boss.

Bosses rise because they know how to pass the explosive buck before it goes off.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 07 Oct 2021 00:36

chetak wrote:
CalvinH wrote:
Looks like someone from the embassy leaked it. Qureshi cant pin his failure on the embassy staff.
of course he can. He is the boss.

Bosses rise because they know how to pass the explosive buck before it goes off.

for the rest of the world may be but Pakis follow Mughal rule model. Everyone below the premiere is replaceable by everyone else 2-3 tier down the line. So everyone in these 2-3 layers is equal. Pure opportunistic selection system where fortunes can change anytime.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Oct 2021 00:54

The tea that costed faiz "shot in the ass" hameid his job.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Oct 2021 02:22

He was angling for the COAS job. The current COAS (who probably wants an extension) did not take kindly to it.

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 07 Oct 2021 03:26

Anujan wrote:He was angling for the COAS job. The current COAS (who probably wants an extension) did not take kindly to it.

being a corps commander is usually a requirement to become the COAS for TSP. this may be a stepping stone for the guy.

Y I Patel · Post by **Y I Patel** » 07 Oct 2021 06:39

Y I Patel wrote:It might be premature to think that Faiz has been transferred in disgrace. He is now Corps Commander of the Peshawar Corps, which is a prime post under current circumstances. Also, Corps command is a requirement for becoming COAS of Paki Army, so this might be because he is being prepared for that role. However, time will tell.

Snehesh Alex Philip is saying the same thing in an article in The Print today - that this transfer should be viewed as a promotion and sets him up to be the next COAS

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 07 Oct 2021 08:52

https://twitter.com/kylecmatthews/statu ... 5880541184 ----->

Pakistan's neighbours, lobbies behind US bill seeking sanctions against our country, says Shah Mahmood Qureshi

Pakistan's neighbours, lobbies behind US bill seeking sanctions against our country, says Shah Mahmood Qureshi

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More than 20 US Senators on Tuesday introduced the bill and demanded sanctions on the Taliban in Afghanistan and the foreign governments that support the outfit, The News International reported.

"Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and not less frequently than annually thereafter, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence, shall submit to the appropriate congressional committees a report on entities providing support to the Taliban," the legislation stated.

It further calls for an assessment of "support by state and non-state actors, including the Government of Pakistan, for the Taliban between 2001 and 2020, provision of sanctuary space, financial support, intelligence support, logistics and medical support, training, equipping, and tactical, operational, or strategic direction.

The legislation seeks to assess support by state and non-state actors, including the Pakistan government, for the 2021 offensive of the Taliban that toppled the Government of Afghanistan. (ANI)

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 07 Oct 2021 17:10

At least 20 killed as magnitude 5.9 earthquake jolts Balochistan

Allah provided opportunity of another reason of begging.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 07 Oct 2021 17:32

NRao wrote:https://twitter.com/kylecmatthews/statu ... 5880541184 ----->

Pakistan's neighbours, lobbies behind US bill seeking sanctions against our country, says Shah Mahmood Qureshi

Pakistan's neighbours, lobbies behind US bill seeking sanctions against our country, says Shah Mahmood Qureshi

.........

More than 20 US Senators on Tuesday introduced the bill and demanded sanctions on the Taliban in Afghanistan and the foreign governments that support the outfit, The News International reported.

"Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and not less frequently than annually thereafter, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence, shall submit to the appropriate congressional committees a report on entities providing support to the Taliban," the legislation stated.

It further calls for an assessment of "support by state and non-state actors, including the Government of Pakistan, for the Taliban between 2001 and 2020, provision of sanctuary space, financial support, intelligence support, logistics and medical support, training, equipping, and tactical, operational, or strategic direction.

The legislation seeks to assess support by state and non-state actors, including the Pakistan government, for the 2021 offensive of the Taliban that toppled the Government of Afghanistan. (ANI)

Look like climb down from initial rhetoric.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Oct 2021 20:19

NRao wrote:Pakistan's neighbours, lobbies behind US bill seeking sanctions against our country, says Shah Mahmood Qureshi

Why is gaddi nasheen pirji stating the obvious? If by "neighbors" (plural), which other neighboring country could it be (in addition to India)? Hainji?

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 07 Oct 2021 20:22

Why was the letter from minister to his own ambassador sent in English rather than Urdu? Pakis don't really have a 2 language formula.
Is it for public consumption only? Why don't they ask shampoo boy Moeed Yusuf who is after all a double agent to have his handlers in the US arrange a meeting or call with IK?

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 07 Oct 2021 20:28

anupmisra wrote: Why is gaddi nasheen pirji stating the obvious? If by "neighbors" (plural), which other neighboring country could it be (in addition to India)? Hainji?

You do realize that they view India as 20 different inimical countries, which have unfairly banded together? It is a travesty of justice that these yindoos refuse to recognize their inimical differences and break apart. That the rasam-slurping madrasi tolerates living together in the same country as the gujraati is against all natural laws and divine will, and such effrontery must be fought against.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Oct 2021 20:30

Im the Dim acknowledging the fact that he created an offshore company to evade UK taxes.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1445661690041827330

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Oct 2021 20:44

bharathp wrote:being a corps commander is usually a requirement to become the COAS for TSP. this may be a stepping stone for the guy.

I am not so sure. Shot-in-the-ass Ham-eid, now known as a maverick, would be a likely candidate for staging a coup. By shunting him away from 'slummabad to pisshour, Waist Bajwa has probably bought himself some breathing room.

Secondly, by appointing Anjum to replace Ham-eid as the head of ISI, Bajwa now has a fellow pakjabi in case Bajwa himself decides to overthrow the "selected" government. After all, Bajwa's tenure is about to end in a year's time.

Interesting times ahead.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Oct 2021 21:12

anupmisra wrote:The tea that costed faiz "shot in the ass" hameid his job.

IMO, he is being kicked up, not kicked out.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Oct 2021 21:45

SSridhar wrote:IMO, he is being kicked up, not kicked out.

Majority of the opinion is that he is being kicked up. I trust the pakjabi belief of "me first". That's why I think he has been shunted away by Bajwa from "center of gravity". Time will tell.

Sanju · Post by **Sanju** » 07 Oct 2021 22:30

Both are Pakjabis, Bajwa (Jat) & Hamid (Gujjar)... they both have their own constituencies in Pakjab.

Anoop · Post by **Anoop** » 07 Oct 2021 23:12

3 out of 7 Pak COAS have been from Baloch Regiment - 2 of them recently. Faiz Hamed is also from the Baloch Regiment. Assad Durrani (of the Spy Chronicles infamy) has alleged that he was persecuted (limited his travel, having to appear before tribunals etc) because he exposed the role of then COAS, Kayani (also from Baloch regiment) in the OBL raid and that Bajwa from the same regiment is seeking to settle scores. He wrote this in a scarcely disguised work of fiction, calling the regimental loyalty "tribal loyalty".

It remains to be seen whether 2 successive COAS would come from the same regiment, and what that would mean for other Corp Commanders. Bajwa is already close to completing 5 years tenure at the top. Will he hold on for another 2 years, or cede it to another for a couple of years, allowing a break before Faiz becomes a contender?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 08 Oct 2021 12:05

and the paki misery continues

Sri Lankan women's cricket team cancels its tour to Pakistan.

Talks about a potential tour of Pakistan by the Sri Lankan women's team later this month have hit a stumbling block following a change in management at the PCB. As a result, the series will not be taking place in October but both boards are working to find a window for it before the 2022 ODI World Cup.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sri- ... gh-1281734

Lohit · Post by **Lohit** » 08 Oct 2021 15:49

Its striking how hardly any nation except Iran directly funds terror to Israel. I think the key reason for this is Israel's ability to put its own and their adversaries skin in the game.

What I mean by this is that Israel does not hesitate in going after adversarial leadership at the topmost levels.

A key issue as I see it and I could be 100% wrong here is that - we have not been going after Pak fauj at the Jernail level deliberately. While there are daily 2-3 events in Baluchistan, FATA or Sindh - these are usually against the lowest troops and these are retaliated by NaPak as we have been seeing for the past few days in the valley.

Could it be that we and NapKa have a tacit understanding that we will not go after each others high ranking officials? We often hear rumors about unofficial understanding between the nations agencies and rules of engagement even for proxy war.

This sort of an understanding, if it exists, obviously benefits NaPakis since jernails there live a charmed life - scores of attendants, industries worth 100s of crores under their belts, US visas for their extended family and a free hand in econo-political decision making and wealth accumalation, like satraps.

For our generals, & its and here is where I may be fully wrong - but to speak plainly - we have opted for a cowardy copout since even our Generals might be hesitant to risk retaliation on themselves, perhaps the specter of Gen A S Vaidya's fate hangs over them. Hence they too have agreed to this understanding.

The only way to cut the gordian knot of low intensity, high pain proxy war is if one side chooses to change the dynamic and put our skin in the game by going after the adversaries topmost leaders ie NaPak Fauj jernails. Now NaPakis would never do this - they have no incentive. Its like a king leading the vangaurd of a risky assault. So it is incumbent on our side to do this. Question is will we ever?

I feel, that just like surgical strikes gave a reality check to NaPakis on what the rules of the game can be, a leadership decapitation approach will produce similar but orders of magnitude better effect.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 08 Oct 2021 16:40

Sanju wrote:Both are Pakjabis, Bajwa (Jat) & Hamid (Gujjar)... they both have their own constituencies in Pakjab.

Current and the Future ?? Pasmanda not true Ashraf Mard-e-Momeen?!!

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 08 Oct 2021 18:38

https://indianexpress.com/article/sport ... e-7560048/
India government can trigger Pakistan Cricket Board collapse: Ramiz Raja
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has been left high and dry in recent times with New Zealand and England pulling out of tours to the country.
Written by Tushar Bhaduri | New Delhi, October 8, 2021
Conceding that it was Indian money that was, in a way, keeping the Pakistan Cricket Board afloat and PCB chairman Ramiz Raja said India’s financial clout in the world game was the reason no other ICC member country could go against them.
In that context, Raja told a Senate Standing Committee that the Indian government can trigger a collapse of the PCB if it were so inclined.
“The PCB gets 50 percent of its funding from the ICC. The ICC conducts tournaments and the income generated from them is distributed among its member boards,” Raja told the panel.
“Now, 90 percent of the ICC funding is generated from the Indian market. In other words, Indian business houses are running Pakistan cricket. If tomorrow, the Indian Prime Minister decides that they will not fund Pakistan cricket, there’s a possibility that the PCB can collapse.”
The PCB has been left high and dry in recent times with New Zealand and England pulling out of tours to the country. The Kiwis, in fact, had arrived in Pakistan but decided to fly home literally minutes before the first One-Day International citing unspecified “security threats.”
Pakistan’s Interior minister Sheikh Rashid had alleged a conspiracy in this regard, claiming that the emails threatening the New Zealand team originated from accounts based in India.
This after virtually no international cricket taking place in Pakistan for more than a decade after a terrorist attack against the visiting Sri Lankan team in Lahore. Also, there has been no bilateral series for a decade and a half against India, the biggest draw card for any host country – and more so for Pakistan – due to frosty relations between the two countries.
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Gautam

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 08 Oct 2021 19:57

Why blasphemy is a capital offense in some Muslim countries

https://www.pressenza.com/2021/10/why-b ... countries/

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 08 Oct 2021 23:19

from the yawn (links not provided)

the pakis are getting phucked onlee

Meanwhile in the Chinese colony of Gwador...

via@CChristineFair 5:09 PM · Oct 2, 2021

Thousands demand basic facilities in Gwadar, Turbat

BEHRAM BALOCH
01 Oct, 2021

GWADAR: Thousands of people from different areas of Gwadar and Turbat on Thursday staged a protest demonstration against non-availability of basic amenities and shortage of drinking water, health, education facilities and increasing unemployment in Gwadar and other areas of Makran division.

Seneral secretary of Jamaat-i-Islami’s Balochistan chapter Maulana Hidayat-ur-Rehman Baloch led the protest procession in Gwadar. It later turned into a big public meeting at Shuhada Jewani Chowk.

Speaking on the occasion, Maulana Baloch strongly criticised the government and the authorities concerned and said that over the last 70 years the successive governments had failed to resolve basic issues of the people of Makran and Gwadar.

“We are demanding basic rights of the people of Gwadar and Turbat which have been usurped by the rulers and the people have even been deprived of drinking water, health and education facilities and since the government has allowed big trawlers to fish at Makran Coast, local fishermen were also not able to earn their livelihood.”

The JI leader said that it was the responsibility of the state to solve problems of the masses, but it had not been fulfilling its responsibilities for the last 70 years.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 08 Oct 2021 23:54

"50% of PCB is run on ICC funding. 90% of ICC is run on BCCI funding. India is running PCB.

Modi can shut down PCB the day he wants." - And Porkistani Cricket Board contributed ZERO to ICC !!!!

Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman, Ramiz Raja

via @rvaidya2000 7:55 PM · Oct 8, 2021

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 09 Oct 2021 17:45

Apparently Bajwa and Dimran are sparring over the transfer of #doggyISI and appointment of a new one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S86nYlf8icE

Video of them fighting has emerged, though some say that the video is shot at a long distance and it is actually Moeed Yusuf and Gaddi Nasheen Qureshi fighting over who should be the head gasbag to talk about foreign relations:
https://twitter.com/anis_farooqui/statu ... 33060?s=20

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2021 18:52

Uh-oh!

First this:

Then this:

U.S. No Longer Sees Itself Building ‘Broad-Based’ Relationship with Pakistan: Sherman

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman on Thursday said Washington no longer sees itself building a “broad-based relationship” with Pakistan, in a marked contradiction to Islamabad’s stated desire to expand its ties with the U.S. beyond an Afghanistan-centric view.

“We [U.S.] don’t see ourselves building our broad relationship with Pakistan and we have no interest in returning to the days of a hyphenated India, Pakistan,” she said at an event in Mumbai

Earlier on Thursday, Pakistan’s Foreign Office spokesperson had claimed that Islamabad wanted a relationship with Washington that was “broad-based and forward looking, moving away from looking at it mostly from the perspective of Afghanistan.”

Ouch!

https://www.newsweekpakistan.com/u-s-no ... n-sherman/

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2021 18:58

Purely satirical! Only in jest (or is it?).

Imran Khan Welcomes Afghan Refugees To Come And Provide Food & Shelter To Poor Pakistanis

While the whole world is shying away from taking in refugees from war torn Afghanistan which recently witnessed a coup by Taliban, Pakistan PM Imran Khan is showing a big heart by allowing Afghan refugees in Pakistan.

However, the announcement came with terms and conditions as PM Imran Khan couldn’t let go his begging habits and asked Afghans to come with their savings and use the money to provide food and shelter to poor Pakistanis in return for their safety.

While Pakistan hater Indians are mocking Imran Khan, the intellectual class has praised Imran Khan for his humanitarian decision which will help both Afghans and Pakistanis giving both Afghans and Pakistanis what they want, safety for Afghans from Taliban and end of poverty for poor Pakistanis.

https://thefauxy.com/imran-khan-welcome ... akistanis/

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2021 19:01