2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 26 Nov 2021 22:53

chetak wrote:for the want of a nail, the horse was lost...........

for the want of a rajya sabha seat, one wonders................

More than 1 lakh hindus displaced from their homes in W.Bengal in post-election violence. Over 150 hindus butchered by TMC and islamists in days before and after the elections, homes and businesses of hindus looted and burned by TMC mob, and this self-proclaimed "hindu hruday samrat" is singing paeans of a person who orchestrated all the violence !

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Nov 2021 23:06

Ambar wrote:
chetak wrote:for the want of a nail, the horse was lost...........

for the want of a rajya sabha seat, one wonders................

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More than 1 lakh hindus displaced from their homes in W.Bengal in post-election violence. Over 150 hindus butchered by TMC and islamists in days before and after the elections, homes and businesses of hindus looted and burned by TMC mob, and this self-proclaimed "hindu hruday samrat" is singing paeans of a person who orchestrated all the violence !

(Some people think within a limited focus and are unable to think beyond that)

मियां की दौड़ मस्जिद तक........

srikandan · Post by **srikandan** » 26 Nov 2021 23:39

Judicial interventions to nudge executive

The Governments are expected to create a secure environment so that the judges and judicial officers can function fearlessly,” the CJI said

Yes, the public needs to support these fearless judges to take the side of anarchists and violent mobs that attack the police, as we saw during the "farmer protests", or when they interfere with the functioning of an elected govt. in matters of national security, against the interests of the public at large. Makes total sense.

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 27 Nov 2021 00:49

Its strange that the judiciary always says that it supports dissent but slaps anyone who criticizes them with a contempt of court notice. Isn't this hypocrisy? Courts might be supreme but they aren't infallible. So I hope our courts establish the much required checks and balances to ensure that they are trusted and their judgements are respected.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 27 Nov 2021 01:19

https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/ ... 88261?s=20

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India strongly pitching for a permanent solution to public stock holding programme. It is a part of the WTO commitment.

On TRIPS waiver, India & South Africa have put forth a proposal. India is working for global good & is at the forefront of vaccine development & its sharing.

Why is public stock holding of food grains for food security only a concern of developing countries? Do the developed countries not expect to face a food crisis?

MSP is an issue of contention for developed countries while India might be looking at increasing the MSP program in view of the farmers' protest.

ritesh · Post by **ritesh** » 27 Nov 2021 01:41

srikandan wrote:Judicial interventions to nudge executive

The Governments are expected to create a secure environment so that the judges and judicial officers can function fearlessly,” the CJI said
Yes, the public needs to support these fearless judges to take the side of anarchists and violent mobs that attack the police, as we saw during the "farmer protests", or when they interfere with the functioning of an elected govt. in matters of national security, against the interests of the public at large. Makes total sense.

The only thing govt should do is to bring a change wherein a simple and clear target is assigned to each and every milords of this country from lower to supreme court's to get their acts together and dispose the cases in rightful manner.

Any decision over turn should earn them a negative marking and a dashboard on monthly basis needs to be published online in a transparent manner by a neutral body like CAG.

3 continuous months non adherence to performance needs strict and swift action.

srikandan · Post by **srikandan** » 27 Nov 2021 02:09

SC is not accountable or answerable to the parliament, which is why they have gone rogue on the nation and openly playing political games with the executive and the legislature.

Meanwhile, in Justicepalayam, New Delhi

SC seeks Centre, Rakesh Asthana’s replies on NGO’s plea against his appointment as Delhi CP

A bench of Justices D Y Chandrachud and A S Bopanna issued notice to the Centre and Asthana and sought their response on the plea of the NGO, the Centre for Public Interest Litigation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_fo ... Litigation

he CPIL was founded in the late 1980s by V.M. Tarkunde, who was also the founder of the People's Union for Civil Liberties.[3] V.M. Tarkunde was the first president. Other founder members were senior advocates including Fali Sam Nariman, Shanti Bhushan, Anil Divan, Rajinder Sachar and Colin Gonsalves.[4]

This is the same NGO that has Colin Gonalves who was challenging the govt.s decision to build roads near the LAC, and this is the second hearing that Chandrachud has entertained from this one NGO in just one month on frivolous cases... All this while under-trials that do not have political connections or money do not get their day in court for decades.

The CJI warned against any such attempts to project judicial interventions as targeting of the executive and said that it was “totally misplaced” and would prove detrimental to the health of democracy if encouraged.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Nov 2021 10:42

It is becoming quite obvious that India needs a judicial system which is tailor made for the country and its democratic concepts. The British system is more of a liability. But the total disunity amongst the various political parties (who land up in the Parliament) allows judiciary to rule like kings. The bane of India - disunity- always allow a small organized minority to rule over larger number of people.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 27 Nov 2021 12:24

Judiciary being told not to entertain or fall for the Colonial mindset
https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 8791326722

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Nov 2021 12:39

uddu wrote:Judiciary being told not to entertain or fall for the Colonial mindset
https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 8791326722

uddu ji

The audience is not Indian and he is talking of the colonial mindset that is still prevalent among the goras and the way that they continue to look at India and in their dealings with India

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Nov 2021 12:47

even as India continues to dilly dally...........

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uddu · Post by **uddu** » 27 Nov 2021 13:01

chetak wrote:
uddu wrote:Judiciary being told not to entertain or fall for the Colonial mindset
https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 8791326722
uddu ji
The audience is not Indian and he is talking of the colonial mindset that is still prevalent among the goras and the way that they continue to look at India and in their dealings with India

The Goras dont take our lecture. They do what they feel like doing. For them the message is send out directly at meetings. This is meant to educate the one's who are ignorant about it and become part of the problem especially the Judiciary who are accepting PIL's to block road construction activities close to border and many such construction activities hindered due to Judicial intervention. You could check the video.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Nov 2021 13:43

uddu wrote:
chetak wrote: uddu ji
The audience is not Indian and he is talking of the colonial mindset that is still prevalent among the goras and the way that they continue to look at India and in their dealings with India
The Goras dont take our lecture. They do what they feel like doing. For them the message is send out directly at meetings. This is meant to educate the one's who are ignorant about it and become part of the problem especially the Judiciary who are accepting PIL's to block road construction activities close to border and many such construction activities hindered due to Judicial intervention. You could check the video.

they will take our lecture now.

Modi has demanded one trillion dollars as the price for cooperating on the climate change fiasco. That is a burnol moment for them because the demand is not only just but also true.

The BJP has very foolishly allowed two "pillars of democracy" to strengthen at a very serious cost to itself.

FOE and FOS are esoteric discussion points in five star conferences prior to the sumptuous free lunch and expensive wine, it is not applicable to the world of realpolitik. That is why goebbels was so successful because he understood and cleverly, also, exploited the difference

this would never have happened in the congi/commie regime because they use the halal cut principle, hence these very same two "pillars of democracy" don't have the testimonials to take them on

whereas the BJP is all about shudh shakahari bhojan onlee, even with 303 on their own, they have managed to lose the plot

no one gives a damn about shudh shakahari tigers, whereas vengeful मांसाहारी hyenas are always feared and accorded "respect" because of apprehension and appeasement.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Nov 2021 14:13

uddu wrote:Judiciary being told not to entertain or fall for the Colonial mindset
https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 8791326722

uddu ji,

Apologies.

you were right. The message was meant for a specific audience onlee

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/constitut ... nvironment

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Nov 2021 18:40

The message could not have been any clearer or more direct than this

On the occasion of Constitution Day celebrations, which was organised by the Supreme Court of India, the President of India was pleased to make the following observations and earlier,

Prime Minister Modi had spoken of separation of powers during his address at a Constitution Day event. He had said, “The government and judiciary are twins as they are born out of the same Constitution. As the nation looks towards the 100 years of Independence in the next 25 years, the government and judiciary must strive with common goals and common mind to meet the aspirations of the people through collective responsibility while keeping with the separation of powers.”

President of India (@rashtrapatibhvn) November 27, 2021

Without diluting it to the slightest degree, can a better way be found to select judges for the higher judiciary? For instance, there can be an all-India Judicial Service which can select, nurture and promote the right talent, right from the lower levels to the higher levels. pic.twitter.com/5SJBbFRODU

President Kovind cautions judges against ‘indiscreet remarks’ after PM Modi spoke about the ‘separation of power’ between Judiciary and govt

President Kovind cautions judges against ‘indiscreet remarks’ after PM Modi spoke about the ‘separation of power’ between Judiciary and govt

The Indian President pointed out the ever-increasing pendency of cases, thereby adding to the grievances of people and organisations that are seeking for redressal.

27 November, 2021
OpIndia Staff

On Saturday (November 27), President Ram Nath Kovind suggested changes in the Indian judicial system to clear the rising backlog of pending cases. He made the remarks during his valedictory speech on the occasion of Constitution Day celebrations, which was organised by the Supreme Court of India.

During his address, President Kovind emphasised, “I am of the view that the Independence of the judiciary is non-negotiable. Without diluting it to the slightest degree, can a better way be found to select judges for the higher judiciary? For instance, there can be an all-India Judicial Service which can select, nurture and promote the right talent, right from the lower levels to the higher levels.”

He further added, “This idea is not new and has been around for half a century without being tested. I am sure there can be better ways of reforming the system. Ultimately, the aim should be to strengthen the justice delivery mechanism.”

Without diluting it to the slightest degree, can a better way be found to select judges for the higher judiciary? For instance, there can be an all-India Judicial Service which can select, nurture and promote the right talent, right from the lower levels to the higher levels. pic.twitter.com/5SJBbFRODU

— President of India (@rashtrapatibhvn) November 27, 2021
The Indian President pointed out the ever-increasing pendency of cases, thereby adding to the grievances of people and organisations that are seeking for redressal. “The issue of pendency has ramifications for economic growth and development too. It is high time all stakeholders find a way out by keeping national interest above all,” President Kovind had stated.

While speaking about the cost of justice, he noted that only a small section of Indians can approach the courts. “From lower courts to the Supreme Court, it becomes increasingly difficult for an average citizen to seek redressal of grievances,” he added. President Kovind said that he hoped to see increased access to advisory services and legal aid to common people in the near future.

President Kovind also said that the Judiciary must exercise “utmost discretion” while making comments. He said, “Hence, it is also incumbent upon the judges to exercise utmost discretion in their utterances in the courtrooms. Indiscreet remarks, even if made with good intention, give space for dubious interpretations to run down the judiciary.”

Quoting Justice Frankfurter of the US Supreme Court, the President said, “Courts are not representative bodies. They are not designed to be a good reflex of a democratic society. Their essential quality is detachment, founded on independence. History teaches that the independence of the judiciary is jeopardised when courts become embroiled in the passions of the day, and assume primary responsibility in choosing between competing political, economic and social pressure.”

Earlier, Prime Minister Modi had spoken of separation of powers during his address at a Constitution Day event. He had said, “The government and judiciary are twins as they are born out of the same Constitution. As the nation looks towards the 100 years of Independence in the next 25 years, the government and judiciary must strive with common goals and common mind to meet the aspirations of the people through collective responsibility while keeping with separation of powers.”

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Nov 2021 20:21

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 27 Nov 2021 21:57

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1nAKEYNYdayKL

Best speech by anyone anywhere. This Yugpurus has set the gold standard that any future leader of India will find hard to exceed. Sat sat naman. Not just a speech but he has delivered on all of these.

Me lords in general are a speed breaker with few exceptions.They better change or the govt and people of India will change them soon.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2021 00:00

In a democracy, this just cannot mean there is no accountability.

rights and responsibilities mandatorily coexist. If they don't, then it is not a democracy but merely a monarchy

In a democracy, accountability is always mandatory, whether explicitly stated or not.

@ANI 6:29 pm · 26 Nov 2021·
Framers of Constitution made accountability an integral element with respect to legislature & executive.

However, they consciously decided to keep judiciary on different pedestal.

They trusted the competence of men & women who would adorn the bench in upholding Constitution: CJI

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2021 00:15

They trusted the competence of men & women who would adorn the bench in upholding Constitution.

via@tapasgiri93

https://twitter.com/tapasgiri93/status/ ... 0623510533

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 28 Nov 2021 00:17

That trust as we know was utterly misplaced. Change in the way me lords are selected must be done if India is to progress at a fast pace. In general this "Supreme court" has failed India. When the Supreme court should intervene they go to sleep but when terrorists petition has to be heard they open at midnight. When it is the job of the elected executive to run the country in the midst of the worst pandemic me lords instead of helping the govt come out with all kinds of nonsensical statements like so and so tons of oxygen has to be reserved for delhi. hello what about the rest of the country . Is supreme court going to decide how to distribute oxygen or the elected and competent govt.

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 28 Nov 2021 00:19

chetak wrote:In a democracy, this just cannot mean there is no accountability.

rights and responsibilities mandatorily coexist. If they don't, then it is not a democracy but merely a monarchy

In a democracy, accountability is always mandatory, whether explicitly stated or not.

@ANI 6:29 pm · 26 Nov 2021·
Framers of Constitution made accountability an integral element with respect to legislature & executive.

However, they consciously decided to keep judiciary on different pedestal.

They trusted the competence of men & women who would adorn the bench in upholding Constitution: CJI

When did this happen? I don't recall reading anywhere that constitution puts SC on a different pedestal?Every system works on checks and balances. Where is the checks and balances for the judiciary? Didn't constitution initially make sure the executive appointed the judges? And where is it written anywhere in constitution as to what is considered the basic structure of constitution and what are SC's powers regarding this.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 28 Nov 2021 00:23

Hizzoners are not exactly distinguishing themselves, are they?

The rot is surfacing and the conflicts are multiplying because the executive is far less corruptible than in the past. When the cup boils over, that will bee the time to empty it and fill with clean water. But will NaMo have the courage to do it? Time will tell.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2021 00:41

right about the "pedestal" bit

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 28 Nov 2021 00:42

Justice Patel: Another attempt to muzzle dissent is coming from a different quarter - a civil servant has recently said that the fourth front of war is coming from 'Civil Society'.
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Justice Patel: As critics have pointed out-what is 'Civil Society'? Is it in contrast to an uncivil society? Does it include journalists, lawyers, bureaucrats, judges? Are judges a threat to the government?

He goes on to say there nothing such as too much dissent and too much democracy.

And also says, govts will come and go. The idea of India must go on forever. And also says history will not judge us how many highways we have built. But through how well be have protected the constitutional idea of India.

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 28 Nov 2021 00:57

I can not say much on an open forum with admin breathing down your neck. But I would say this, our judiciary has done more damage to India than Ajmal kasab and pakis ever managed.

m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 28 Nov 2021 07:42

Suresh S wrote: Best speech by anyone anywhere. This Yugpurus has set the gold standard that any future leader of India will find hard to exceed. Sat sat naman. Not just a speech but he has delivered on all of these.

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disha · Post by **disha** » 28 Nov 2021 08:09

Hizonners are on a roll!

The mighty penguins of the SC/HC and the local courts who lord over us and the special children of the constitution have spoken! And what they spake! The rest of the constitutional hoi-polloi, the legislative and the executive have to wade through muck, sweat and tears and blood to get where they are while the hizzoners the penguins form a cartel of penguins, by the penguins and for the penguins.

PS: I still wonder why the Hizzoners the grand penguins of SC are beholden to Teesta Setalvad? She makes a call and the SC passes judgement right while they are hearing another case. And rest of the hoi-polloi like us, it is 786 dates...

disha · Post by **disha** » 28 Nov 2021 08:45

People think of CheenCans and Pakis as major enemies. They are. However in order of importance, the real enemies are:

1. CON-goons

They hollowed out the economy from 2004-2014. They gave rise to terrorism.

If people are complaining about petrol prices, they can get the CONgoons back. Really when they hear about their cousin not stepping out of home for 2-3 years since they barely survived a bombing or your friend narrating harrowingly how they just got into a bus and the chat place they just had visited had a bomb blast. Innocents died.

1519 of them. That is One Thousand Five Hundred and Nineteen. Please read below and get your BP up...

https://swarajyamag.com/books/manish-te ... ark-decade

2. MediaPimps and their assorted 4-letter NGO hanger ons and the pseudo-intellectuals. For eg. sample this https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/goin ... ural-india.

3. The "activist" penguins. In a nutshell the Hizzoners.

4. The vested interests. GST is bad. Demo is bad. Petrol price hike is bad. Varanasi corridor is bad. We have not got this or that or something else and hence Mudi Shud Rezine crowd.

For the last one, GOI cannot do much. There will be always some vested interest which will be hurt.

If the above 3 out of 4 are taken care off, the baki and cheeni problem, I think will resolve easily.

And of course CHORNIA!

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 28 Nov 2021 09:04

AshishA wrote:
chetak wrote:In a democracy, this just cannot mean there is no accountability.

rights and responsibilities mandatorily coexist. If they don't, then it is not a democracy but merely a monarchy

In a democracy, accountability is always mandatory, whether explicitly stated or not.

When did this happen? I don't recall reading anywhere that constitution puts SC on a different pedestal?Every system works on checks and balances. Where is the checks and balances for the judiciary? Didn't constitution initially make sure the executive appointed the judges? And where is it written anywhere in constitution as to what is considered the basic structure of constitution and what are SC's powers regarding this.

I hope president of India Shri kovind calls this idea of un accountable me lords as bull crap .

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 28 Nov 2021 11:26

disha wrote:People think of CheenCans and Pakis as major enemies. They are. However in order of importance, the real enemies are:.....

That decade should be called as a dark decade. Even as a child, I could feel how the despondent the atmosphere was. When I first started reading newspapers, one of my earliest memories are of how one used to read about scams the first thing in the morning. Scams, bomb blasts, ministers abuse of power so much so that many were even ashamed to call themselves Indians and believe we have any future.

Btw I checked out all the thread pages in the 26/11 tribute thread. Its not astonishing how despondent the posters are in especially in 2009-14 period. They all waited for India finally avenging her citizens for the 26/11. But it never came. One thing I found rather hilarious is that one poster was warned because he suggested that our govt was complicit in 26/11. Many others also protested against him. I believe people in 2009-13 had no idea the level 'our govt' would fall to harm its own people people. The people who died or were injured in all those bomb blasts in the UPA decade will get justice when everyone who was a accomplice in this treachery pays the price.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 28 Nov 2021 14:17

AshishA wrote: And also says, govts will come and go. The idea of India must go on forever. And also says history will not judge us how many highways we have built. But through how well be have protected the constitutional idea of India.

No wonder we are in this decrypt state of affairs. What worth is it protecting the constitution if the people for whom that constitution is made for live in eternal depravity and poverty and live a wretched life ??
The destruction of human life and dignity and not providing basic needs for a sustainable livelihood is the biggest crime a nation can commit.
Constitution is just a piece of paper whose worth is based on the life of the citizens for whom it is meant for - not the other way around.
Only if hizzoners understood that history will judge us by how many highways we built !!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2021 18:45

is it an Indian version of the critical race theory.........

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2021 19:38

bitter blow to the wokes and their presstitute supporters

A harsh taste of reality for mumtaz banoo.

let's hope that Goa goes the same way too for jehadi didi.

obviously, the voting machines were rigged, no

Biplab Kumar Deb@BjpBiplab.

@BJP4Tripura wins 329 out of 334 seats in #Tripura Urban Local Body Elections.

Much gratitude to all people of state for showing immense trust in leadership of Hon. PM Sh @narendramodi Ji, under his guidance we are continuously working for betterment of 37 Lakh people of state.

4:59 pm · 28 Nov 2021

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Nov 2021 23:11

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 29 Nov 2021 09:00

Why are all elections dedicated to Modiji now? Municipal elections ?! Wow!!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 Nov 2021 09:37

Isn't this CJI Ramana, a tool of Naidu and reportedly received land in Amaravati (AP capital)?

I remember Jagan filing a report with center. At least Modiju should establish a commission to inquire corruption of judges.

Can they simply reject Chadrachud elevation and go to the next guy?

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 29 Nov 2021 14:17

Hizzoners are batting for the constitution because it says nothing about judicial accountability. They seem to ignore that India is a Republic, the power vests in it's people. The constitution is simply a set of rules & OPs the people gave themselves at one point of time, it cant be above the will of people, nor can be any institution it legitimises.

The recent pronouncements are in my view an indication that hizzoners are feeling some popular heat, and are trying to counter it. A good sign that the untouchables are getting nervous.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Nov 2021 15:22

Cyrano wrote:Hizzoners are batting for the constitution because it says nothing about judicial accountability. They seem to ignore that India is a Republic, the power vests in it's people. The constitution is simply a set of rules & OPs the people gave themselves at one point of time, it cant be above the will of people, nor can be any institution it legitimises.

The recent pronouncements are in my view an indication that hizzoners are feeling some popular heat, and are trying to counter it. A good sign that the untouchables are getting nervous.

they have picked the wrong govt to tangle with

no other has so clearly and explicitly stated its points up front.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 29 Nov 2021 16:35

Why can't the judges be elected in India by people like MPs and MLA's along with district attorney, etc

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 29 Nov 2021 17:27

SBajwa wrote:Why can't the judges be elected in India by people like MPs and MLA's along with district attorney, etc

Trust me you don't want to go their. It will bring nothing but ruin, just go and look at US states which have elected judges.