Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 19 Feb 2022 06:09

I would expect someone like Priyanka Vadra to have half a gram of political sense but she has none. Standing next to Channi she is laughing as he calls UPites, Delhites and Biharis as bhaiyya and calls for banning them from Punjab. As a Punjabi he should realize that it’s the Punjabis who came as refugees to places like UP and Bihar. The amount of self-aggrandizement amongst Punjabis has no bound.
Added later: Not to mention that Vadra family has deep roots in UP from Amethi to Allahabad. Truly a vinash kale, viprit buddhi moment.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 19 Feb 2022 06:57

I really want Akalis to get 30-35 seats and checkmate Kujli and Italians

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 19 Feb 2022 07:17

Why don't Panjabis lead the way by vacating the GoI gifted farmland in Pilibhit, UP? Why not leave it for the bhaiyas? Or is "Panjabyon" ki bakwas only as intemperate as their drink and nothing more?

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 19 Feb 2022 09:09

vimal wrote:I would expect someone like Priyanka Vadra to have half a gram of political sense but she has none. Standing next to Channi she is laughing as he calls UPites, Delhites and Biharis as bhaiyya and calls for banning them from Punjab. As a Punjabi he should realize that it’s the Punjabis who came as refugees to places like UP and Bihar. The amount of self-aggrandizement amongst Punjabis has no bound.

Nehru had ancestral home at Allahabad (Anand Bhavan) where Nehru and his dad stayed, and where Indira got married. Priyanka's own husband hails from Moradabad. Large number of Sikhs settled in Terai region of UP. Main problem is the racism of Sikhs against Hindus. These people have become a carbon copy of Muslims in their contempt of Hindus and use similar swearwords for Hindus as Pakistanis use. Sikhism is a dying faith, and in another three-four decades, it will collapse badly. Sad to see for what lofty purpose it started and how pathetically it will end.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 19 Feb 2022 09:41

They will become like what Ahmedyas are to Muslims. Eventually not even tolerated.

They will have brought it upon themselves. It is only a question of time before they prove themselves unwelcome in the rest of India. No problem, it will admirably suit their entitlement to grievance.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 19 Feb 2022 10:47

Jal Jeevan Mission: Punjab had 49% tap water coverage in rural areas in Aug 2019. Today the coverage is 99%!!

Lets see how many seats this translates into. Will be a good test for what trumps in elections: sentiment or vikas

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Feb 2022 11:19

Looks like there are wheels within wheels already in motion onlee....

Smart move to get chavanni to voice the demand for the investigation into khujliwal after KV made the public allegations

Looking more like calculated moves on a chessboard and the BJP is not on the firing line either for the allegations or the demand for an investigation.

The govt is already reviewing the security protocols for KV and security for him is likely to be given through a central security agency after the review.

Centre reviewing security of Kumar Vishwas

On poll eve, Charanjit Singh Channi alleges AAP links with secessionists, Shah promises probe

Amit Shah Responds To Punjab CM Channi's Letter On Kejriwal's SFJ Links; 'Looking Into It'

19th February, 2022

NEW DELHI: In a significant development just 36 hours ahead of voting in Punjab, Union home minister Amit Shah on Friday accepted CM Charanjit Singh Channi’s demand for a “comprehensive probe and immediate appropriate action” into AAP leader and Delhi CM Arvind Kejriwal’s alleged links with the secessionist Khalistani outfit, Sikhs for Justice, and appropriate action.

The Congress leader referred to a letter purportedly from SFJ pledging support for AAP as well as the claim of Kumar Vishwas, a one-time close associate of Kejriwal, about the Delhi CM’s “links” with the secessionists.

Shah’s response was swift. “It is utterly condemnable in order to gain power, such people can go to the extent of colluding with secessionists and break apart Punjab and the country. The agenda being pursued by these elements is not different from that of the nation’s enemies. I will personally ensure an in-depth investigation into it,” he replied.

"For a political party to have links with and cooperate with anti-national, secessionist and banned organisations is indeed a very grave matter from the point of view of the country’s unity and integrity. I can assure you that nobody will be allowed to endanger the country's unity and integrity. The Government of India has taken a very serious view of the matter," Shah replied to Channi.

Channi's letter --- he wrote to Shah, "I hope you would take appropriate action immediately keeping in view the seriousness of the matter involved as Punjab already suffered heavily due to separatist forces" --- and Shah's prompt response just ahead of the polling injects a new element into what in any case seemed like the most intense elections for Punjab assembly in recent times.

The impact it may have in a state which was ravaged by insurgency and remains a hunting ground of operatives for Pakistan's ISI trying to stoke secessionism will be interesting to watch. A significant section of the electorate remains wary of the prospects of the return of the violent campaign for Khalistan which claimed thousands of lives through the 1980s and early 1990s.

The Punjab CM's letter to the Centre seeking its immediate intervention came in the wake of a letter purportedly from Sikhs for Justice dwelling on the Khalistani outfit's support for AAP.

"The letter is in Punjabi and the language and contents of the letter show that Sikhs for Justice (SFJ ), which is a banned organisation, is in constant touch with the Aam Aadmi Party. It has been mentioned in the letter that SFJ has given its support to AAP in the elections to the state assembly in 2017 and, similarly in these elections, too. The SFJ has exhorted the electorate to vote for AAP," wrote Channi.

"It is understood that this is a very serious issue of compromising with the security and integrity of the country and thus needs to be thoroughly investigated. I would urge upon you to immediately get this matter investigated for taking appropriate action in this regard," the Punjab CM further said.
He also referred to the claim of Kumar Vishwas. The poet-turned political activist, whose allegations were referred to by both Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Congress leader Rahul Gandhi to corner Kejriwal, stuck to his guns and challenged the Delhi CM to publicly denounce the demand for Khalistan.

Channi's letter and the Centre's response marked a divergence from the tension that has marked their ties, with the Punjab CM accusing the Centre of encroaching upon the state's jurisdiction by enlarging BSF’s jurisdiction. The two governments had also sparred over the security breach during the PM’s visit to Punjab earlier this year.

AAP, which has emerged as a serious claimant for power this year, has been dogged by allegations of being sympathetic to Khalistan votaries, something which, many believe, cost it the 2017 elections it had seemed poised to win.

papaji certainly has some strange friends

never really understood the rationale of men gifting each other with the reproductive organs of plants

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 19 Feb 2022 13:13

sanjaykumar wrote:Why don't Panjabis lead the way by vacating the GoI gifted farmland in Pilibhit, UP? Why not leave it for the bhaiyas? Or is "Panjabyon" ki bakwas only as intemperate as their drink and nothing more?

Sanjayji
We have in 75 yrs sorted our North/South /East/West(though not accurate in the geographical sense)
Kashmiri/Punjabi/Bengali/Dravidian
Constant mollycoddling over decades has bred a sense of exclusivity!!
I know this will upset some in the forum and even the Mods but that what it is Us/Them

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 19 Feb 2022 22:13

Election campaign started in OCT 2021. Why not to make rules to start the campaign one month before polling. It will save mango man from so many problems. Students, noise pollution, useless rhetorics where fabric of society is challenged at the toss of coin. Aspiring gundas get highly paid jobs from shoddy politicians . TV anchors do invite panellists who have nothing to loose. Anyway in Indian one proves his/ her worthiness by insulting country, language, religion and common sense. It is shame to watch election coverage. Uneducated, untrained and biased slippery person working as as reporters. Indian public is taken for granted. Shame, shame.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 20 Feb 2022 07:27

some entertainment

https://twitter.com/NewsroomPostCom/sta ... bUyb8pAAAA

समाजवादी पार्टी का चुनावी सभा बना अखाड़ा! स्वामी प्रसाद मौर्य पहुंचे मंच पर, तो दो सपा नेताओं और उनके समर्थकों के बीच हो गई भिड़ंत... वीडियो वायरल

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 20 Feb 2022 09:27

rsingh wrote:Election campaign started in OCT 2021. Why not to make rules to start the campaign one month before polling. It will save mango man from so many problems. Students, noise pollution, useless rhetorics where fabric of society is challenged at the toss of coin. Aspiring gundas get highly paid jobs from shoddy politicians . TV anchors do invite panellists who have nothing to loose. Anyway in Indian one proves his/ her worthiness by insulting country, language, religion and common sense. It is shame to watch election coverage. Uneducated, untrained and biased slippery person working as as reporters. Indian public is taken for granted. Shame, shame.

UP campaign started with Shaheen Bagh , farm protests etc, ever since the 2019 elections riots protests are being engineered to derail the economy.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 20 Feb 2022 18:00

Again a low voter turnout phase in UP except in the Yadav heartland. Most constituencies were barely breaching 50% turnout at 5 PM with another hour of voting to go .

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 20 Feb 2022 21:18

Uttar Pradesh Election 2022 Phase 3 Live Updates: 60.18% voting reported in UP till 5pm

Punjab Election 2022 Live Updates: Over 68% voters' turnout recorded in state; Congress will form govt with two-third majority, says Channi

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 20 Feb 2022 23:03

BJP will lose onlee.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 21 Feb 2022 12:01

Three points not talked about about UP elections;

1. Law and order.
2. New voters.
3. Female voters.

In every one of them the BJP had an edge over SP and BSP.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 21 Feb 2022 12:23

#2 wouldn't have seen the crime and misgovernance of SaPa and BSP, this is what nearly sank NDA in Bihar where the first time voters were swayed by catchy songs and rhetorical speeches by RJD and Tejaswi Yadav. #3 is very aware of inflation and BJP rightly in their campaign did not defend their recent record on inflation. TMC in WB went to town about the food inflation, LPG and petrol prices, something that SaPa has also done. #1 is a solid pro-BJP talking point, and that's what every BJP leader from YA to Modi have spoken about in their campaign rallies.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 21 Feb 2022 12:26

All the three subjects are discussed to death in various ground level reports and videos posted in this very thread.

vmalik · Post by **vmalik** » 21 Feb 2022 23:01

Does anyone see a scenario where brahmins in UP sit out of the current elections to teach BJP a lesson (yes, cut your nose to spite your face... but Namo has, perhaps unwittingly, made the MKG turn)...I don't know why, but I sense a big setback heading our way.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 21 Feb 2022 23:07

Pretty good seat by seat analysis

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 22 Feb 2022 01:22

BJP will loose only

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 22 Feb 2022 02:18

vmalik wrote:Does anyone see a scenario where brahmins in UP sit out of the current elections to teach BJP a lesson (yes, cut your nose to spite your face... but Namo has, perhaps unwittingly, made the MKG turn)...I don't know why, but I sense a big setback heading our way.

I’ve stated this on this thread earlier also that it’s the Dalit, women vote which will be critical for UP election. Upper caste Hindus is fickle.

I would also like to thank the creator of the hijab nonsense at the most opportune time. I'm certain it has pushed a lot of folks off the fence and renewed voting fervor amongst the lazy secularists type.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 22 Feb 2022 02:55

https://www.facebook.com/Khabar-adda-10 ... 607261873/
Rss also feared from bjp loss is up

This report does not sound good at all. Does anyone know who is this guy?

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 22 Feb 2022 05:52

vijayk wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Khabar-adda-10 ... 607261873/
Rss also feared from bjp loss is up

This report does not sound good at all. Does anyone know who is this guy?

The guy looks like one of the dynasty doormat. Sasta Vinod Dua. He will say that Biden is worried about this too...it doesnt matter. People like him have been proven wrong again and again.

In UP it would be impossible for BJP to repeat the 2017 performance. That performance sets a very high bar. How much can they lose is a question of math for each city and region. However, I think they can come back and form the government. The desperation in darbari and secular patrakars is one sign.

BJP can afford to lose 100+ seats more from 2017 and still form the government. Thats equal to 1/3 of the seats won in 2017.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Feb 2022 09:11

Punjab vote % in 2021.

https://twitter.com/NewsArenaIndia/stat ... crn7Q&s=19

Can someone color the three regions of Majha, Doaba, and Malwa on these tables?
Use two colors please.
Say yellow for Malwa, sky blue for Majha.
Thanks.

ManSingh · Post by **ManSingh** » 22 Feb 2022 10:47

ramana wrote:Punjab vote % in 2021.

https://twitter.com/NewsArenaIndia/stat ... crn7Q&s=19

Can someone color the three regions of Majha, Doaba, and Malwa on these tables?
Use two colors please.
Say yellow for Malwa, sky blue for Majha.
Thanks.

The list in your posted tweet is region wise. First few are Majha. Kapurthala onwards is Doaba till Ropar. Ropar onwards is Malwa

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 22 Feb 2022 12:00

BJP will lose onlee.

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 22 Feb 2022 12:01

CalvinH wrote:
In UP it would be impossible for BJP to repeat the 2017 performance. That performance sets a very high bar. How much can they lose is a question of math for each city and region. However, I think they can come back and form the government. The desperation in darbari and secular patrakars is one sign.

Its difficult for BJP to repeat the 2017 performance because it was a 3 cornered contest in 2017. BSP was as serious a contender as SP-Cong.
In a 2 cornered contest, the same vote share gets BJP about 50 fewer seats. (based on its victory margin in 2017 and assuming half the non
BJP, non SP votes go to the SP, which came 2nd in those 50 seats.
I also suspect SP will do better alone, than in alliance with Cong, as it did in 2017. SP gave 114 seats to Congress, which won 7.

That said, a >40% vote share is still enough for BJP to win around 240 seats.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 22 Feb 2022 19:45

https://twitter.com/rose_k01/status/1496037539207077888
Check the video

Rosy@rose_k01
SP candidate Narad Rai "Fainted" after seeing BJP flag in his own house in Ballia #UttarPradeshElections

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 22 Feb 2022 19:47

https://www.opindia.com/2022/02/akhiles ... ns-result/
Amidst ongoing UP polls, rumours emerge SP chief Akhilesh Yadav is fleeing to London on 11th March, a day after result
Samajwadi Party has neither confirmed nor refuted the rumours of Akhilesh Yadav fleeing India a day after UP poll results.

In the midst of the ongoing State Assembly Elections in Uttar Pradesh, social media is rife with rumours that Samajwadi Party Chief Akhilesh Yadav will be flying to London on March 11, a day after the results of UP election.

Assembly elections are being held in Uttar Pradesh from February 10 to to March 7 in seven phases to elect all 403 members of the Legislative Assembly, the results of which will be declared on 10 March this year.

The netizens, sharing an image of a purported ticket of some person named as ‘Akhilesh Yadav’ are wondering if the SP Chief is running away from India after elections and claiming indirectly that the UP elections will be won by CM Yogi Adityanath. The image of the air travel ticket that is going viral over the social media states that ‘Yadav’ will be traveling to London via Abu Dhabi with very little luggage on March 11, 2022.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 22 Feb 2022 20:24

Maybe he now has the same masters as pappu and khujliwal, get new instructions on how to sow trouble, start riots and divide the nation.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 22 Feb 2022 23:07

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/ground ... ogi-factor
Ground Report From Uttar Pradesh: The Yogi Factor

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Feb 2022 23:24

ManSingh wrote:
ramana wrote:Punjab vote % in 2021.

https://twitter.com/NewsArenaIndia/stat ... crn7Q&s=19

Can someone color the three regions of Majha, Doaba, and Malwa on these tables?
Use two colors please.
Say yellow for Malwa, sky blue for Majha.
Thanks.
The list in your posted tweet is region wise. First few are Majha. Kapurthala onwards is Doaba till Ropar. Ropar onwards is Malwa

Ok, Thanks. will see the pattern.
Ropar is Rupnagar #50?

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 22 Feb 2022 23:34

vijayk wrote:https://www.opindia.com/2022/02/akhiles ... ns-result/
Amidst ongoing UP polls, rumours emerge SP chief Akhilesh Yadav is fleeing to London on 11th March, a day after result

not credible, why would he travel in economy class ?!
Could be some poor IT/VT guy finally going "onsite"

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Feb 2022 23:52

Average trunout in Punjab was 71.92%

In Majha, in 12/26 seats the turnout is below the average. Amritsar West #16 was lowest at 55.40%.
- This means about half the seats, turnout was less than average
In Doaba 17/23 seats were below average with the lowest in Jalandhar Central #35 at 60.65%
- This means more than half the seats, turnout was less than average.
In Malwa, 15/67 seats had below average with Ludhiana South #61 at 59.04%
- This means only in 1/4 of the seats, the turnout was less than the average.

Political experts say that voter turnout increases when the incumbent is thrown out. By this axiom, Malwa and Majha will see Congress defeated in many seats.
Doaba is an enigma.

And who will be the winners is for locals to say about these seats.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Feb 2022 23:59

Do we know the present seats in the three regions? Which party has how many?

ManSingh · Post by **ManSingh** » 23 Feb 2022 00:28

ramana wrote:Average trunout in Punjab was 71.92%

In Majha, in 12/26 seats the turnout is below the average. Amritsar West #16 was lowest at 55.40%.
- This means about half the seats, turnout was less than average
In Doaba 17/23 seats were below average with the lowest in Jalandhar Central #35 at 60.65%
- This means more than half the seats, turnout was less than average.
In Malwa, 15/67 seats had below average with Ludhiana South #61 at 59.04%
- This means only in 1/4 of the seats, the turnout was less than the average.

Political experts say that voter turnout increases when the incumbent is thrown out. By this axiom, Malwa and Majha will see Congress defeated in many seats.
Doaba is an enigma.

And who will be the winners is for locals to say about these seats.

Yes, Ropar is Roopnagar. I think the divide can be more attributed to rural vs urban or generally prosperous vs not so prosperous. The well to do have not voted it seems.

Doaba has the highest urbanization and a high SC population. Malwa is the biggest, most rural and prone to leftist influence. In Malwa too, it is the urban areas that have a lower voting average. Check SAS Nagar which is Mohali.
In the past Malwa used to be an Akali strong hold. Went to congress the last time and will probably swing between Kisaan Morcha/Aap this time.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 23 Feb 2022 02:18

Yes it seems Hindus voted by not voting.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Feb 2022 06:12

Thanks.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Feb 2022 06:25

Does he make sense? Its pre-election analysis
4 party contest for the first time.
and its consequences.
He predicts
Cong and AAP at 40+/- 5 each
SAD 25-30
BJP 5-10
Others 3
The bottom line is he thinks, unlike the earlier estimates neither of the parties can form a govt.
And I guess the voter turnout does reflect that.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Feb 2022 06:43

A finer, granular analysis will go through the earlier 2017 seats and apply the new voter turnout uniformly and see what emerges?