Terroristan - March 31, 2022

partha · Post by **partha** » 05 Apr 2022 03:44

Bart S wrote:For Moeed, he is just trying to salvage his think tank circuit future, given the ridiculous levels of very public Anti-Americanism from the (ex) PM whose government he was a part of. Actually several key people in Pakistan including cabinet ministers and their equivalent of our RBI governor are foreign citizens/residents who will go back to their old job as soon as the opportunity to loot their homeland dries up. One of the PTI politicians who was recently sacked as Governor of Punjab and left in a huff, is actually a British citizen and was a British MP from Glasgow.

Yusuf is also US citizen or green card holder. Apparently, even Asim "papa john" Bajwa is a US citizen and he was in the army occupying a high position

There was a list made by opposition floating around listing top people and their citizenship status. I think it's fair to expect that upper echelons of Pak society is thoroughly penetrated and compromised by US including army. Who in their right mind appoints dual citizens to sensitive positions like SBP governor, NSA, state governor.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 05 Apr 2022 06:54

Bart S wrote:For Moeed, he is just trying to salvage his think tank circuit future, given the ridiculous levels of very public Anti-Americanism from the (ex) PM whose government he was a part of. Actually several key people in Pakistan including cabinet ministers and their equivalent of our RBI governor are foreign citizens/residents who will go back to their old job as soon as the opportunity to loot their homeland dries up. One of the PTI politicians who was recently sacked as Governor of Punjab and left in a huff, is actually a British citizen and was a British MP from Glasgow.

He was not just a "British Citizen " but a UK MP for 13 years from 1997 to 2010 . Unbelievable.

And the best part as if it is some Family property his son has been the MP from that Glasgow seat after him, BIF-UK-Paki Elite are closely connected.

wig · Post by **wig** » 05 Apr 2022 07:07

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2350862/bu ... s-to-dubai

meanwhile

Bushra Bibi's close friend Farah Khan flies to Dubai
Farah Khan was repeatedly accused of being involved in ‘corruption’ by opposition leaders

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 05 Apr 2022 14:30

https://www.dawn.com/news/1683565/us-so ... ays-russia

US sought to punish 'disobedient' Imran Khan, says Russia

Russians momentarily paused their denials of the Bucha massacre to shift attention to Pakistan and publicise, in the full glare of the world media, their presumed chumminess with Pakistan. Dimran really is the gift that doesn't stop giving.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 05 Apr 2022 20:12

partha wrote:
Bart S wrote:For Moeed, he is just trying to salvage his think tank circuit future, given the ridiculous levels of very public Anti-Americanism from the (ex) PM whose government he was a part of. Actually several key people in Pakistan including cabinet ministers and their equivalent of our RBI governor are foreign citizens/residents who will go back to their old job as soon as the opportunity to loot their homeland dries up. One of the PTI politicians who was recently sacked as Governor of Punjab and left in a huff, is actually a British citizen and was a British MP from Glasgow.
Yusuf is also US citizen or green card holder. Apparently, even Asim "papa john" Bajwa is a US citizen and he was in the army occupying a high position There was a list made by opposition floating around listing top people and their citizenship status. I think it's fair to expect that upper echelons of Pak society is thoroughly penetrated and compromised by US including army. Who in their right mind appoints dual citizens to sensitive positions like SBP governor, NSA, state governor.

i always had the same question with raghuram rajan

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Apr 2022 20:32

Yusuf is also US citizen or green card holder

the little paki schitt is a green card holder

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 06 Apr 2022 00:44

I checked on the internet, Chickna is not a US citizen:
"Moeed W. Yusuf
@YusufMoeed
Jul 18, 2020
Contrary to the canard being spread about me, I only hold citizenship of ONE country and that is Pakistan. Here is the affidavit I had previously submitted to the government....."
Gautam

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 06 Apr 2022 01:23

chetak wrote:
Yusuf is also US citizen or green card holder

the little paki schitt is a green card holder

If u r a gc holder u cannot stay out of US for more than 6 months. Ur gc can be cancelled if u live more time outside us

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 06 Apr 2022 01:49

Passports of North Korea, Yemen, and Somalia enable entry into more countries visa-free than a Terroristan passport.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 06 Apr 2022 03:22

Is there a Coup yet? Pakis have become boring these days

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 06 Apr 2022 04:03

Atmavik wrote:If u r a gc holder u cannot stay out of US for more than 6 months. Ur gc can be cancelled if u live more time outside us

If you fill out the proper form in triplicate, USG allows you the favor of staying outside the country without losing the green card. So in this case if the guy goes "Ji Huzoor, I want permission to stay in Pakistan because they offered to make me PM" or "I want to go be the governor for the RBI", that application is going to get approved

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g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 06 Apr 2022 11:55

Chikna may be in Pakistan at the behest of the US government. The rule of maintaining a US residency will then not apply to him.
Gautam

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 06 Apr 2022 17:08

The way Porki Supreme Court is passing time, looks like Dimran and a faction of the establishment (Chini/ISI pasand) have maneuvered the system to accept the fait accompli of Dimran's hand picked PM nominee presiding over a farcial election and him not being held accountable for his actions in manipulating the parliament proceedings in the No trust vote.

Aldonkar · Post by **Aldonkar** » 06 Apr 2022 17:12

Aditya_V wrote:
Bart S wrote:For Moeed, he is just trying to salvage his think tank circuit future, given the ridiculous levels of very public Anti-Americanism from the (ex) PM whose government he was a part of. Actually several key people in Pakistan including cabinet ministers and their equivalent of our RBI governor are foreign citizens/residents who will go back to their old job as soon as the opportunity to loot their homeland dries up. One of the PTI politicians who was recently sacked as Governor of Punjab and left in a huff, is actually a British citizen and was a British MP from Glasgow.
He was not just a "British Citizen " but a UK MP for 13 years from 1997 to 2010 . Unbelievable.

And the best part as if it is some Family property his son has been the MP from that Glasgow seat after him, BIF-UK-Paki Elite are closely connected.

The son who "inherited" his MP seat is now leader of a much reduced Labour party in Scotland. They are, however, the second largest party after the Scottish Nationalist.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Apr 2022 17:17

Vips wrote:The way Porki Supreme Court is passing time, looks like Dimran and a faction of the establishment (Chini/ISI pasand) have maneuvered the system to accept the fait accompli of Dimran's hand picked PM nominee presiding over a farcial election and him not being held accountable for his actions in manipulating the parliament proceedings in the No trust vote.

Na Biwi, Na Bachha, Na Baap Bada, Na Maiyan

The Whole Thing Is That Ke Bhaiya, Sabse Bada Rupaiya

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 06 Apr 2022 17:40

US punished Imran Khan for not canceling visit to country, Russian foreign ministry

Russian foreign ministry has spoken for the first time since Prime Minister Imran Khan accused the USA of backing a no-confidence motion against the prime minister and said that all the developments before and after Pakistan PM’s Russia visit point to the fact that the United States decided to “punish disobedient” Imran Khan for not canceling his February visit to the country.

According to BBC, the Russian foreign ministry, in a statement, said that when PM Imran Khan was about to visit Moscow in Feb 2022, the US and its allies were pressuring the Pakistan PM to cancel the visit ahead of Ukraine war.The statement further says that the US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs summoned Pakistan Ambassador to US Asad Majeed Khan and pressured him to cancel the visit but the pressure was rejected and Imran Khan continued with his plans. “Suddenly, a number of Pakistan PM’s MNAs joined the opposition and a no-confidence motion was filed against him,” reads the statement according to the media house.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Apr 2022 00:21

Imran is paying for the Russian gas pipeline idea he brought up. That kind of collaboration can eventually lead to a Russia-India pipeline. Taliban have already opened an office in Russia.

The west's leverage on energy hungry India is at best an increasingly unreliable Middle East. If a Ru-Ind pipeline becomes a reality India will forever escape their grip.

America can buy out the entire paki parliament and army, they're pretty cheap anyway. If not sending Dummy to meet Benazir option is always avl to the Regime Changer.

Whoever comes next will be expected to stir up a conflict with India which will not only weaken us militarily even if we win, it will present lots of opportunities to do a Bucha on us and sanction us to stone age.

An idea I gave up - "A stable, peaceful Pakistan is in India's interest" may come back to haunt me.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 07 Apr 2022 00:30

^^^ that’s a pipe dream .. forget abt the west India doesn’t want to depend on anything running thru Pakistan

U last line makes us sound like Mani Shankar Iyer

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 07 Apr 2022 01:01

One birkin bag carrying motorhome replaces another birkin carrying motorhome. Governments may come, governments may go. PMs come, PMs are dismissed and send to exile but two things are certain in Pakistan (a) The military establishment was/is/will be the ultimate arbiter of power in Pakistan, their constitution, supreme court, parliament, cabinet etc is all just a time pass and (b) the saville row suit wearing or birkin bag carrying 0.1% will continue to control 95% of the paki's motheaten economy, the rest of the awaam is left to eat grass or pay some human smuggler to make it to Europe.

Here's Farah Khan, Bushra bibi's BFF fleeing to Dubai after her buddy's husband joined the long list of paki PMs who have failed to complete a single term.

hgupta · Post by **hgupta** » 07 Apr 2022 01:41

Cyrano wrote:Imran is paying for the Russian gas pipeline idea he brought up. That kind of collaboration can eventually lead to a Russia-India pipeline. Taliban have already opened an office in Russia.

The west's leverage on energy hungry India is at best an increasingly unreliable Middle East. If a Ru-Ind pipeline becomes a reality India will forever escape their grip.

America can buy out the entire paki parliament and army, they're pretty cheap anyway. If not sending Dummy to meet Benazir option is always avl to the Regime Changer.

Whoever comes next will be expected to stir up a conflict with India which will not only weaken us militarily even if we win, it will present lots of opportunities to do a Bucha on us and sanction us to stone age.

An idea I gave up - "A stable, peaceful Pakistan is in India's interest" may come back to haunt me.

No way. India would be paying Pakistan for transit fees, hard earned money that Pakistan would use to fund its anti-India activities.

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 07 Apr 2022 04:08

Ambar wrote:One birkin bag carrying motorhome replaces another birkin carrying motorhome. Governments may come, governments may go. PMs come, PMs are dismissed and send to exile but two things are certain in Pakistan (a) The military establishment was/is/will be the ultimate arbiter of power in Pakistan, their constitution, supreme court, parliament, cabinet etc is all just a time pass and (b) the saville row suit wearing or birkin bag carrying 0.1% will continue to control 95% of the paki's motheaten economy, the rest of the awaam is left to eat grass or pay some human smuggler to make it to Europe.

Here's Farah Khan, Bushra bibi's BFF fleeing to Dubai after her buddy's husband joined the long list of paki PMs who have failed to complete a single term.

According to Porki talk shows she was the proxy used by Bushra Bibi to collect graft money and she used to charge Rs 3 Crore for posting/transfer of a circle Inspector.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 07 Apr 2022 05:06

More drama in paki land today. Pakjab assembly was locked and the speaker( Future CM candidate) stripped powers of dept speaker.

Police and pehalwans from Gujrat guarded the assembly and did let opposition enter as they wanted to bring no confidence motion.

Opposition then moved to a hotel/ marriage hall and declared there own CM

If Pak Fauj had a true kammandu chief there would be a coup by now , but Bajwa is a Raa / Moosad / SBU agent

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Apr 2022 08:28

hgupta wrote:
Cyrano wrote:Imran is paying for the Russian gas pipeline idea he brought up. That kind of collaboration can eventually lead to a Russia-India pipeline. Taliban have already opened an office in Russia.

The west's leverage on energy hungry India is at best an increasingly unreliable Middle East. If a Ru-Ind pipeline becomes a reality India will forever escape their grip.

No way. India would be paying Pakistan for transit fees, hard earned money that Pakistan would use to fund its anti-India activities.

Once India gets back Gilgit Baltistan, a Kazakhstan -> Kyrgyzstan -> Tajikistan -> Afghanistan -> India pipeline can be explored? Kazakhstan has huge oil and gas reserves and Tajikistan is also sitting on unexplored reserves.

srin · Post by **srin** » 07 Apr 2022 09:49

Cyrano wrote:Imran is paying for the Russian gas pipeline idea he brought up. That kind of collaboration can eventually lead to a Russia-India pipeline. Taliban have already opened an office in Russia.

The west's leverage on energy hungry India is at best an increasingly unreliable Middle East. If a Ru-Ind pipeline becomes a reality India will forever escape their grip.

The IPI, TAPI were all failures for a simple reason - Pakistan.
The NaMo govt has cultivated the ME and has pulled it out of the Baki embrace. There is no point in jumping from their grip to Baki grip - I mean, seriously take a look at how Europe is having issues with Russian pipeline, do you think we need the same problem with Bakis who can turn off the tap anytime (or threaten to) and destroy the economy ?

Why are you proposing that we shoot ourselves in the foot ?

Actually, I want a gas pipeline from Russia to Pakistan via Afghanistan. A couple of sharp diplomats and some special forces in Afghanistan would mean that we can remote control their economy. And a pipeline would mean guaranteed minimum sales at a negotiated price for a large number of years. Awesome.

America can buy out the entire paki parliament and army, they're pretty cheap anyway. If not sending Dummy to meet Benazir option is always avl to the Regime Changer.

Whoever comes next will be expected to stir up a conflict with India which will not only weaken us militarily even if we win, it will present lots of opportunities to do a Bucha on us and sanction us to stone age.

An idea I gave up - "A stable, peaceful Pakistan is in India's interest" may come back to haunt me.

There is no proof that the very existence of Pakistan is in our interest. Second, Pakistan is already 'peaceful' (pun intended)

. And they haven't chosen to be stable and peaceful against us, so the classic definition of insanity comes to mind - doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Apr 2022 10:32

Central Asia, Iran, Afghanistan etc can prosper only if Baluchistan is an Independent country- that is one of the reasons , China-UK and USA have been backing Pakistan to the hilt inspite of its dangers to the world. Partition was a well planned strategy with British Maps Indicating which areas should be fully Muslim from 1908 onwards.

All these pipelines can work only if Pakis breakup.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 07 Apr 2022 11:15

**Adityaji
The US should be blamed partly for partition as the baton of power had already passed from Britshits to US by then.
You will interested in checking the wooing of Afghanistan yes Afghanistan in early 40's by both Russians and Americans.
Probably till 60's the US followed ambivalent policy vis a vs India and Paxtan, They tried post China war to woo us but for Banditji's intransigence, left with egg on the face. In come Kissinger and the Afghan Republic, and rest as they is history. Who knows if JFK had survived and the pragmatic Shastri in power we probably would have been industrially stronger than Japan/Chin/SoKo!!

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Apr 2022 12:10

Any Russia-India pipeline will need a very different Pakistan on the map and as a country than it is today. Which means America will lose a pliable beggar state that it can needle India into a fight on command. And US will lose energy leverage and military threat leverage on India, and make a stronger Russia. Imran's pipedream is suicidal for Pakistan and unacceptable for US because it doesn't want such ideas to take root and get Russia and India working on a long term plan towards it.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 07 Apr 2022 13:01

I see folks are taking Afghanistani cooperation for granted (for any future pipeline). I think Talibans are more volatile. They managed to extract zazia (even without a pipeline). All their cooperation will fly within minutes at slightest pretext.I agree that we have to put INdians first policy.
Just have a look at this guys travel vlogs. It is just for on the ground information not an advertisement. Asivasi walk for 3 days and night just to get 35 kg of wheat. Ladies walk for 2 days ( with heavy load ) just to earn 500 Rupee. Administration has failed them

Rajasthan vlog KD bastar rype in you tube.He has done series

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Apr 2022 13:12

Taliban are nothing without Paki support- they are allowed by US so that Russian-Iranian influence does not control Afghanistan. That also cause Afghan society has to depend on Pakis for Food and other essentials. Again Independent and India Pasand Baluchistan is the key.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 07 Apr 2022 13:26

Aditya_V wrote:Taliban are nothing without Paki support- they are allowed by US so that Russian-Iranian influence does not control Afghanistan. That also cause Afghan society has to depend on Pakis for Food and other essentials. Again Independent and India Pasand Baluchistan is the key.

Notion that we need to appease US to get to Taliban is not valid. cooperation of Bakistan can be assured by one condition. Main Pipeline has to come to India without any opening in Bakistan. Once it enters India a small tributary goes to Bakistan. We pay for pipeline we control the pipeline. Bhookha nanga Bakistan has no choice. Any way their major population centres are not far away from borger.

Shaktimaan · Post by **Shaktimaan** » 07 Apr 2022 17:52

Get your popcorn ready, folks. The Pakistan Supreme Court is going to announce their verdict on the shenanigans going on in their Parliament today at 8 PM Indian time. Security has been increased heavily outside the Supreme Court building.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 07 Apr 2022 18:30

Read on twitter that the judge saheb made a comment on Bilawal Bhutto's beautiful smile

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 07 Apr 2022 21:14

I always thought he was hilay-dulay.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 07 Apr 2022 21:34

Cyrano wrote:Any Russia-India pipeline will need a very different Pakistan on the map and as a country than it is today. Which means America will lose a pliable beggar state that it can needle India into a fight on command. And US will lose energy leverage and military threat leverage on India, and make a stronger Russia. Imran's pipedream is suicidal for Pakistan and unacceptable for US because it doesn't want such ideas to take root and get Russia and India working on a long term plan towards it.

It is better to By pass Pakistan and build a India-Middle east under sea pipeline. Nothing angers Pakistan more than being ignored. You hear this every IPL season

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 07 Apr 2022 21:39

Imran Khan loses the case in Supreme Court. Will now have to face the no confidence motion on the 9th.

Bushra Bibi was doing voodoo slaughtering chickens.Imran would not have faced this humiliation if they had instead done kurbani of excess humans in Porkistan.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Apr 2022 22:02

So Bajwa 1, Bullet-man-musharrafi 0

Would be interesting to see how Faiz's career evolves.

Also, why did supreme court wait so long? Crore Kammandus couldn't come to a decision?

Congratulations to everyone on Pee-aref. Lord Faw faw is a minister again.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 07 Apr 2022 22:07

Wonder who and what is behind Dim’s exit
Is this an attempt to get back into Khan’s bed
Given Pakraine and India’s stance, Waist Jernail is seeing a chance to change partners??
Or is it just infighting in the TSP top ranks

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 07 Apr 2022 22:11

How can SC be so brutal during ~~Ramazan~~ Ramadan, Hein ji. Poor soul Dimmy. Eat nothing whole day, 45° C,attend Bushra's insulting phone,hide in bunker to save from unguided indianasmani bla,Us nat happy, Chini nat happy, Rajnath's speeches, Bazwa's mystery smile with dark eyes. It is too much.

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 07 Apr 2022 22:32

Rsatchi wrote:Wonder who and what is behind Dim’s exit
Is this an attempt to get back into Khan’s bed
Given Pakraine and India’s stance, Waist Jernail is seeing a chance to change partners??
Or is it just infighting in the TSP top ranks

There is definitely a part of US ploy in this. Probably part of pressuring India to follow US diktat.

I hope RAW now moves in to make sure US never gets back in. I'm sure China would be player as well given they are about to lose a courtesan to rival.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Apr 2022 22:34

Bajwa tampered Kaptaan's balls :-(

If Kaptaan is a true mard, he will denotify Bajwa and pick a new army chief within 6 hours.