Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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Vegan activists pour litres of milk onto floor at Scots Waitrose in protest
The Edinburgh supermarket was targeted by activists from Animal Rebellion, who are demanding climate and animal justice, on Saturday, October 15, with the footage shared on social media https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scot ... k-28248216

these mofos wasting food when millions starve in the world including in their own country ...all in the name of veganism! Same wokes side with Islamists in UK to attack Hindus and then disappear altogether when there is Bakrid around!
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IndraD wrote:Vegan activists pour litres of milk onto floor at Scots Waitrose in protest
The Edinburgh supermarket was targeted by activists from Animal Rebellion, who are demanding climate and animal justice, on Saturday, October 15, with the footage shared on social media https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scot ... k-28248216

these mofos wasting food when millions starve in the world including in their own country ...all in the name of veganism! Same wokes side with Islamists in UK to attack Hindus and then disappear altogether when there is Bakrid around!
But wouldn't the store owner not do something about this? I saw the video clip. The protesters, a handful really, were emptying out 5 litre milk cans on the store floor and what looked like store security staff were simply watching by.
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As Liz Truss Faces Open Revolt, Rishi Sunak Backers Step Up Efforts
Britain's beleaguered prime minister Liz Truss is battling to rescue her premiership this week, when financial markets will deliver a fresh verdict on her screeching economic reset while mutinous backbenchers plot to oust her. Only 40 days in office, Truss spent Sunday huddling with new Chancellor of the Exchequer Jeremy Hunt, her pick to restore stability after a humiliating climbdown that included sacking her initial choice for the job and junking an economic plan that triggered a sell-off in UK assets.

While markets will be testing Truss, her fate ultimately rests with a Conservative Party that has her scrambling to save her job.
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Defame Hindus Plot In UK's Leicester | Blame 'Hindutva' Trend Growing? | NewsX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yvtBHny2e0


Islamist Violence In UK Unabated | Will UK Act To Protect Hindus? | NewsX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngC6kC23XQA
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'Liz Truss the Brief?' World reacts to UK political turmoil says PeePeeShi
At the weekend US President Joe Biden weighed in, saying Ms Truss's original plan was a "mistake" and it was "predictable" that she would have to backtrack."I wasn't the only one that thought it was a mistake," Mr Biden said. "I disagree with the policy, but that's up to Great Britain."
The EU's economy chief, meanwhile, said there were "lessons to learn" from what is happening in the UK.
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The UK is becoming a "cautionary tale" about the effect of "bad politics", said an editorial in Indian daily newspaper The Hindu on Monday.
You know there was a clusterf*** when even Chindu and Bidenwa think you mucked up. Where are the rating agencies and the index mongers of the world!! :wink:
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ussonomics
Jeremy Hunt has taken his scalpel to Liz Truss’s budget – now the real pain starts
Gaby Hinsliff, Mon 17 Oct 2022 14

Emergency surgery on Trussonomics was vital, but years of grind now lie ahead
Jeremy Hunt did his best to deploy a reassuring bedside manner. But the Conservative party’s surgeon came bearing bad news. He had seen the X-rays, and it all had to come out. Not just the obviously gangrenous parts of Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng’s budget, like her corporation rate tax cut or the abolition of the 45p tax rate, but pretty much everything still within reach of his scalpel. Goodbye indefinitely, proposed penny off basic income tax; farewell, IR35 reforms to benefit self-employed contractors. Even Truss’s energy bill bailout – the one thing that was still popular when everything else had turned sour – will be universal only until next spring, after which it will be capped and targeted towards the most vulnerable.
More painful for the country, however, may be the news that this emergency surgery is just the start. There would be hard decisions on tax and spending to come in his full statement on 31 October, Hunt warned. In March 2020, Rishi Sunak promised to do “whatever it takes” to get us through Covid, which meant spending billions. Now Hunt is promising grimly to do whatever is necessary to restore market confidence, which means very much the opposite.
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We are now the kind of country whose prime minister and chancellor are chosen to placate the markets – which as any Greek or Italian knows, means the kind of government forced to worry at least as much about their international creditors as their electorates, and prone to creating dangerously angry democratic deficits as a result. Truss was only ever elected prime minister by a handful of Tory members, and even they no longer have what they voted for.
But that’s tomorrow’s problem. Today’s was whether the sacrifice of Kwarteng would appease the gods and so far, at the time of writing, so good: pound up, bond yields down, message received and understood. Trussonomics is dead and there will be no more lurching changes of direction from Hunt, a naturally consensual operator willing to listen to the City and to his own civil servants at the Treasury, who is also capable of going on the telly without inadvertently precipitating some calamity that adds several hundred quid to your mortgage. The way he kept repeating the word “stability”, meanwhile, suggests that whatever Tory MPs or indeed a deeply humiliated Truss herself may want, Hunt and the circle of Sunak-backers around him think she has to stay on for now, if only to avoid the immediate chaos of a leadership contest or general election that may well fail to deliver a mandate for such bitter economic medicine.
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S_Madhukar wrote:
'Liz Truss the Brief?' World reacts to UK political turmoil says PeePeeShi
At the weekend US President Joe Biden weighed in, saying Ms Truss's original plan was a "mistake" and it was "predictable" that she would have to backtrack."I wasn't the only one that thought it was a mistake," Mr Biden said. "I disagree with the policy, but that's up to Great Britain."
The EU's economy chief, meanwhile, said there were "lessons to learn" from what is happening in the UK.
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The UK is becoming a "cautionary tale" about the effect of "bad politics", said an editorial in Indian daily newspaper The Hindu on Monday.
You know there was a clusterf*** when even Chindu and Bidenwa think you mucked up. Where are the rating agencies and the index mongers of the world!! :wink:
Now The Con-o-myst joins in the chorus or cluster*** as you so colorfully put it, Madhukar ji.

[urlhttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/britain-decline-the-economist/[/url]
Hello from London,
I’m not a fan of monarchy, as readers of this newsletter know. But I’ll concede that Britain’s royal family did show last month how to manage succession smoothly. In contrast, look at the dismal soap opera that is British politics. Liz Truss took over as prime minister barely six weeks ago and is already facing the prospect of losing office. On Friday she was forced to sack Kwasi Kwarteng, her chancellor and close ally. His sin was unfurling an ill-considered budget—one Ms Truss had fully backed—that triggered market turmoil and soaring borrowing costs. His ignominious tenure was one of the shortest in modern British history. Then on Monday her new chancellor, Jeremy Hunt, in a desperate effort to shore up public finances reversed almost all of that budget. That leaves Ms Truss deeply humiliated and without authority. The policies that she said were essential for Britain as she campaigned to be prime minister just weeks ago have already been dumped.
It’s hard to imagine Ms Truss holding on for long. A minority of her own Conservative MPs wanted her in Downing Street in the first place. Some have already called for her to quit. They dread the increasingly likely prospect of a bloodbath at the next general election. Even some party members who elected her now regret it. We have likened her political life expectancy to the shelf-life of a lettuce.
All that turmoil, combined with dire prospects for the economy and weakening respect for institutions, suggests that Britain is in steady decline. But consider the challenges of organising succession in some other places. What, for example, would happen in Russia if—or perhaps when—Vladimir Putin is at last confronted with the costs of his disastrous war in Ukraine? It’s almost impossible to know if powerful figures in the Kremlin, or perhaps the armed forces or security services, might turn on the autocrat, or perhaps each other. Russia’s economy is proving more resilient than expected. But military setbacks, deaths of conscripts and public dismay over mobilisation leave Mr Putin more isolated than ever.
Autocrats everywhere struggle to manage peaceful transfers of power. Xi Jinping addressed the opening session of the Communist Party congress in Beijing on Sunday—and we sent our correspondent to listen to his lengthy speech so you didn’t have to. Yet Mr Xi’s dominance raises the question of what happens to China when power becomes ever ...
But keeping true to their Brutish superciliousness they devolve into criticizing Putin and Xi. Is there something about Modi after that? I haven't checked. Maybe the conomyst will the it in another article, hain ji?
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... raf-pilots
UK to issue ‘threat alert’ over China’s attempts to recruit RAF pilots
Former and serving pilots told not to disclose sensitive information, in attempt to ‘mitigate risk’ of schemes
Dan Sabbagh Defence and security editor, 18 Oct 2022

British defence intelligence is to issue a rare “threat alert”, warning that China’s military is trying to recruit serving and former RAF jet pilots to help train its own air force with generous recruitment packages.
Officials expressed “concern and disapproval” of these schemes because they posed “a threat to UK and western interests”. Although they are not explicitly banning pilots from providing training, they aim to take steps to “manage the risk”.
About 30 former pilots are already believed to have taken advantage of “very generous” recruitment packages offered by China to work for the country’s air force through third parties, including, in particular, a flying academy based in South Africa.
But the warning, or threat guidance, will remind British pilots not to disclose any sensitive information to the Chinese military and ask those approached to tell the Ministry of Defence what is going on so that it can be monitored.
So far there is no evidence that any former RAF pilot has broken the Official Secrets Act in providing training to China, but western officials said they were “taking steps to mitigate this risk” by issuing the guidance.
China is keen to modernise its military and emulate Nato standards and has a particular interest in fast-jet tactics, techniques and procedures. There were also signs it wanted to recruit helicopter personnel as trainers, a western official said.
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Also see: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... craft.html (Thirty former RAF pilots are paid £250,000 each to train Chinese to shoot down Western aircraft in possible threat to national security).
This news was also covered by the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63293582).
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Please watch:
The Brexit effect: how leaving the EU hit the UK | FT Film

A postponement of India-UK FTA makes sense. Home Secretary Suella Braverman may have done us a favor.
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nandakumar wrote:
IndraD wrote:Vegan activists pour litres of milk onto floor at Scots Waitrose in protest
The Edinburgh supermarket was targeted by activists from Animal Rebellion, who are demanding climate and animal justice, on Saturday, October 15, with the footage shared on social media https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scot ... k-28248216

these mofos wasting food when millions starve in the world including in their own country ...all in the name of veganism! Same wokes side with Islamists in UK to attack Hindus and then disappear altogether when there is Bakrid around!
But wouldn't the store owner not do something about this? I saw the video clip. The protesters, a handful really, were emptying out 5 litre milk cans on the store floor and what looked like store security staff were simply watching by.
Nandakumarji,

In law, such a matter is at best defined as criminal damage. As the total amount of milk in sterling, would barely be 10-20 pounds worth, at best these individuals may receive a caution, ie, names recorded at the police station and if another such incident occurs, then it may be brought to a magistrates attention, like see they did this last week! That's all! And posters think that Indian Polis is weak!
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^^^^
The two protesters who threw soup on the Van Gogh painting (it was covered by glass, and was not damaged) have appeared in court charged with damaging the frame:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 32720.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... g-b2203341.

The protester that spray painted over the New Scotland Yard sign also appeared in court and was charged with criminal damage.

https://www.scotsman.com/webimg/b25lY21 ... &width=640

https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/1 ... &auto=webp
Prosecutor Ola Oyedepo told the court the pair threw the “orange substance” knowing there was a “protective case” over the painting, but said damage was caused to the frame.

Ms Oyedepo said it was unclear the value of the damage caused but said it was “significantly below the £5,000 cost threshold”.

She said the pair “did not damage the picture because the picture is worth millions”.

District judge Tan Irkam released the pair on bail on the condition they do not enter galleries or museums and do not have paint or adhesive substances in a public place.

Meanwhile, Lora Johnson, 38, from Southwold, Suffolk, pleaded not guilty to charges of criminal damage at the same court after paint was sprayed onto the New Scotland Yard sign.
I thought the New Scotland Yard sign looks looks quite good in orange. Visitors would have assumed its artwork.
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YouGov poll finds 55% of Tory members now think Liz Truss should resign.

If she goes, their favoured replacement would be Boris Johnson (32%), Rishi Sunak (23%), Ben Wallace (10%), Penny Mordaunt (9%), Kemi Bademoch (8%) & Jeremy Hunt (7%).

Majority of Tory party members want Liz Truss to resign now - as Boris Johnson tops list to replace PM https://news.sky.com/story/majority-of- ... r-12723609
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Lisa wrote:
nandakumar wrote: But wouldn't the store owner not do something about this? I saw the video clip. The protesters, a handful really, were emptying out 5 litre milk cans on the store floor and what looked like store security staff were simply watching by.
Nandakumarji,

In law, such a matter is at best defined as criminal damage. As the total amount of milk in sterling, would barely be 10-20 pounds worth, at best these individuals may receive a caution, ie, names recorded at the police station and if another such incident occurs, then it may be brought to a magistrates attention, like see they did this last week! That's all! And posters think that Indian Polis is weak!
Never knew that 'virtue signaling' has zero cost and international level recognition! Who would have thought.
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IndraD wrote:YouGov poll finds 55% of Tory members now think Liz Truss should resign.

If she goes, their favoured replacement would be Boris Johnson (32%), Rishi Sunak (23%), Ben Wallace (10%), Penny Mordaunt (9%), Kemi Bademoch (8%) & Jeremy Hunt (7%).

Majority of Tory party members want Liz Truss to resign now - as Boris Johnson tops list to replace PM https://news.sky.com/story/majority-of- ... r-12723609
Boris doesn't have a chance anymore. He is disliked by MPs, so will never reach the final stage.
Rishi stands a good chance. Jeremey Hunt, penny are the real other favourites.
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vinod wrote:
IndraD wrote:YouGov poll finds 55% of Tory members now think Liz Truss should resign.

If she goes, their favoured replacement would be Boris Johnson (32%), Rishi Sunak (23%), Ben Wallace (10%), Penny Mordaunt (9%), Kemi Bademoch (8%) & Jeremy Hunt (7%).

Majority of Tory party members want Liz Truss to resign now - as Boris Johnson tops list to replace PM https://news.sky.com/story/majority-of- ... r-12723609
Boris doesn't have a chance anymore. He is disliked by MPs, so will never reach the final stage.
Rishi stands a good chance. Jeremey Hunt, penny are the real other favourites.

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Suella's gone now. Rats deserting the sinking ship.
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Home minister of UK has resigned as sign of no trust in Liz Truss as PM this is typically how goras back stab each other ..
now election looks imminent!

3 options are
Ganju defence secy Ben Wallace (that is why he is in WH doing charan chumban of Biden)
Rishi Sunak (not enough British + Bojo wants party down if he has a chance rather than ....)
Boris returns like a Phoenix (NO)-he is the one behind this war. But ....
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The #HuntReshuffle is on. Suella Braverman looks to be out (Leaver and ECHR-sceptic).

According to reports, she will be replaced by Grant Shapps (Remainer and Globalist).

This is a coup, the Conservative party is dead.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status ... UnyFkMIPYg

UK is paying price for being US's condom
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ity-breach
Truss Fires Braverman With UK Government at Risk of Imploding
*Braverman hits out at premier’s performance in letter
*Dramatic move comes as Truss battles to regain authority
Alex Wickham and Kitty Donaldson, October 19, 2022

Liz Truss fired Home Secretary Suella Braverman for what was described as a national security breach, a dramatic move that will inevitably heap even more pressure on Britain’s premier as she clings to power.
Braverman shared secret documents on a personal mobile phone, four officials familiar with the matter said. She later acknowledged a “technical infringement of the rules” by sending an official document from her personal email, the contents of which she said had already been briefed to MPs.
But in a loaded message to Truss posted on Twitter, Braverman wrote: “The business of government relies upon people accepting responsibility for their mistakes. Pretending we haven’t made mistakes, carrying on as if everyone can’t see that we have made them, and hoping that things will magically come right is not serious politics.”
The development is a major blow to Truss, who is struggling to prevent her government from imploding around her following a disastrous six weeks in office. Later on Wednesday, she faces the prospect of a major Tory rebellion in a Parliament vote on shale gas fracking.
Truss’s advisers are also concerned other members of her Cabinet are planning to resign to try to force the UK prime minister out of office.
A person familiar with the matter said Education Secretary Kit Malthouse and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch are seen as resignation threats. Malthouse delivered a brutal assessment of the premier’s missteps on a Cabinet phone call on Monday to discuss new Chancellor of the Exchequer Jeremy Hunt’s plans to rip-up Truss’s economic program, according to the person.
Both Badenoch and Malthouse told Bloomberg they are not resigning.
Ministerial resignations can be fatal for a prime minister. Boris Johnson’s tenure was ended by the rapid departures of then Health Secretary Sajid Javid and ex-Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak, which triggered a mass exodus from his government. As angry rebels struggle to agree on who they want to succeed Truss, a big resignation is seen as one way to topple her.
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IndraD wrote:Home minister of UK has resigned as sign of no trust in Liz Truss as PM this is typically how goras back stab each other ..
now election looks imminent!

3 options are
Ganju defence secy Ben Wallace (that is why he is in WH doing charan chumban of Biden)
Rishi Sunak (not enough British + Bojo wants party down if he has a chance rather than ....)
Boris returns like a Phoenix (NO)-he is the one behind this war. But ....

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Apparently from the FT's letters section

She (PM) will be gone soon. Her legacy is actually quite impressive. She buried the Queen, country, Sterling and the Tory Party all in the same week!
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^^^
I thought she would be gone by Christmas. At this rate, she may not last till Diwali or Halloween.
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Yougov polls suggesting vox populi desperate and want Tories out, however no one talking about impact of elephant in the house: Ukraine war
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Tory MPs now claiming that chief whip Wendy Morton and her deputy have both resigned - after fracking vote shambles. Total chaos engulfing govt. https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/ ... 47PJIfEXCg
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https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/stat ... 47PJIfEXCg A Tory MP says the deputy chief whip, Craig Whittaker, just exclaimed as he exited the voting lobby: “I am ****** furious and I don’t give a ****** anymore.”
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IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/stat ... 47PJIfEXCg A Tory MP says the deputy chief whip, Craig Whittaker, just exclaimed as he exited the voting lobby: “I am ****** furious and I don’t give a ****** anymore.”

So far tante truss has buried the queen, the pound, and her party


All this - two monarchs, two PMs, four Chancellors and three Home Secretaries in a matter of weeks.

and the the sun set on the britshits a long time ago and now god save the king.


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Are our erstwhile colonial masters headed for a general election....

they are looking and sounding like a banana republic
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/su ... 3.html?amp
And the polls suggest those voters are of a mind to take revenge for the catastrophe visited on the country as a result of the party membership buying into Liz Truss’s toy town economic fantasies.
Home secretary Suella Braverman, who’s been positioning herself as the authentic voice of the right’s most fruit loop tendencies, has found one answer to this Tory dilemma: spraying as much petrol as she can find on the flames of the culture wars.
She seems to have recalled what served her hero Boris Johnson so well: distort, distract, deflect!
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Kaivalya wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/su ... 3.html?amp
And the polls suggest those voters are of a mind to take revenge for the catastrophe visited on the country as a result of the party membership buying into Liz Truss’s toy town economic fantasies.
Home secretary Suella Braverman, who’s been positioning herself as the authentic voice of the right’s most fruit loop tendencies, has found one answer to this Tory dilemma: spraying as much petrol as she can find on the flames of the culture wars.
She seems to have recalled what served her hero Boris Johnson so well: distort, distract, deflect!

cruella's rather snide resignation letter


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^^^^ what's her whole beef with immigration? was that the only "challenge" of her job? UK is mostly insulated from the kind of illegal border crossings that plague the rest of Europe. Does she need to be hardline about immigration to cover up for being an immigrant?
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^^ Yes. Being an Indian immigrant, she is over-compensating by shrieking about how immigration and illegal stay-overs are a big challenge for the Brits ... there is no need for her to do this, but that is her guilt speaking
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^^^^
She’s focussed on becoming Prime Minister. Since tax cuts are off the agenda, she thinks that a “hard line” on immigration will make her popular with the “pale male stale” membership of the Tory party. It’s just cynical politics. Anyway, Liz Truss booted her out for leaking Cabinet discussions; at least that was the reason provided. In reality, she was sacked for being disloyal to Liz Truss.

The labour market in the UK is very tight. Unemployment is low and vacancies are high. Immigration is the only short / medium term fix.
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Byproduct of civilizational decline followed by 2 successive colonialisms. She like many Indians in the west believe that being servile are necessary to make it. Other groups like Chinese, Russias, Arabs, etc. don't act like this.
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Tory MP says he is fed up of these talentless people in the cabinet :mrgreen:
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How an almighty migration row led Suella Braverman to turn against Liz Truss

The darling of Tory right was forced to resign after ‘fiery’ showdown with the PM and new Chancellor over watering down immigration targets

The fuse for Suella Braverman’s resignation was lit on Tuesday night when she had a heated face-to-face row with Liz Truss and Jeremy Hunt, her new Chancellor, over their demands to soften her stance on bringing down immigration.

Friends said the Home Secretary was appalled that they wanted her to announce a liberalisation of immigration to make it easier for the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) to say the Government would hit its growth targets - a key plank in Mr Hunt’s strategy to restore market confidence.

“Suella said, this is insane, why are we trying to appease the OBR? Is everything getting thrown out the window?” said one of her allies.
Just two weeks earlier, Ms Braverman had told the Conservative conference she was committed to the party’s 2019 manifesto pledge to bring down migration, and even resurrected Theresa May’s ambition of reducing it to “tens of thousands”.

Within 24 hours of her “fiery” 90-minute meeting with the Prime Minister and Mr Hunt, Ms Braverman had been forced to resign after being accused of breaching the ministerial code on two counts for sending official documents to another MP from her personal email.

Her concerns about watering down immigration targets are now expected to form the basis of what could be an incendiary resignation statement to the House of Commons in the next 48 hours or early next week.

Her departure removes one of the standard bearers of the Tory right just 24 hours after Ms Truss had met members of the European Research Group (ERG) on Tuesday to shore up her support on the Eurosceptic right. It followed a similar meeting with MPs on the centrist One Nation group on Monday.

Allies of Ms Braverman said she was in a minority in Cabinet in her attempts to resist liberalising migration to boost growth and the arrival of Mr Hunt as Chancellor appeared to reinforce that majority. In his leadership bid in 2019, he vowed to abandon Mrs May’s immigration target of tens of thousands.

“The economic departments were most definitely winning, no questions about that,” said one of the former home secretary’s allies. “They were quite clear: ‘More migration equals more growth.’ The number of people who are of the opposite view around the Cabinet table is not that many.

“Suella was one of them who had been fervently advising against the relaxation of immigration for growth. She has been very robust in conversations I have had with her about that.”

Ms Braverman’s refusal to accept an “open borders migration policy” with India proved one flashpoint - and was blamed by critics for delaying efforts to secure a trade deal with the second most populous nation in the world.

She was also resisting proposals to increase the cap on foreign seasonal agricultural workers from 40,000 to 60,000 and rejected demands for more visas from business ministers for foreign florists, hairdressers and town planners.

“In the absence of automation on farms, we need more seasonal foreign workers. It’s either that or letting food rot in the ground,” said one Cabinet minister.

“The Home Office needs to accept that while we don’t want to have cheap labour, we have to tackle the labour shortages holding back growth. I don’t think the Home Office wants to be a roadblock to growth. Allowing short-term visas and visits seems to be very sensible.”
Migration has already hit a new high as more than one million foreign nationals were allowed to live, work or study in the UK in a year for the first time.

Commenting on the new strategy, an ally of Mrs Braverman observed: “The rhetoric is that it’s high skilled not low skilled but in terms of absolute numbers, it’s definitely increased migration.”
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yensoy wrote:^^^^ what's her whole beef with immigration? was that the only "challenge" of her job? UK is mostly insulated from the kind of illegal border crossings that plague the rest of Europe. Does she need to be hardline about immigration to cover up for being an immigrant?
House Negro trying to be more loyal then the king.
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Liz Truss resigns as prime minister after Tory revolt
Liz Truss has dramatically resigned as prime minister after just 45 days in the job.
Tory MPs urged Ms Truss to go after her government was engulfed by political turmoil, following the ditching of most of her economic policies.
Her resignation comes after a key minister quit and Tory MPs rebelled in a chaotic parliamentary vote.
Ms Truss was elected by the Tory membership in September, but she lost authority after a series of U-turns.
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Tory MPs bullied into voting Yes for fracking…. This chaos finally leads to Liz Truss resigning :((
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How is the Cabbage/Lettuce doing?

Guess it can now be chopped up piecefully to fulfill its destiny...
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