2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

[Cyrano]

Good questions. I think the laws and jurisprudence vary from country to country.

In my view, if a person is not on company business or in a representation activity, then the punishment for his misdemeanors in the responsibility of the state ie police, relevant authorities and the justice system. They start with presumption of innocence, right to a fair process, right to access to charges, evidence, defense, representation etc etc and can't be punished beyond the limits imposed by applicable law. In such cases, the company must allow the person to go on unpaid leave for a reasonable period, and can even suspend his employment until the matter is settled. If found guilty by the justice system and some quantum of fine/punishment is pronounced, then discharging that punishment should IMO be the end of it. Unless the company can demonstrate that the offense has a direct material bearing on the job responsibilities of the person (for example convicted pedophile in a scool teacher job) what is the basis for firing that person? What gives the employer the right to give a second punishment?

In this case the idiot was fired even before the due process of law, by the company which presumably didn't follow any due process comparable to the legal system.

If committing an offense is automatic disqualification then will a parking ticket be enough to fire? So we come back to relevance, proportionality, context, intent etc etc which is precisely what laws and legal system are made for to deal with. The company substituting itself for the justice system and a few other employees substituting for trained legal professionals and giving out a firing sentence just seems atrocious wokism to me.

Except in certain jobs, the employer has no right to ask/know your past record of convictions - which again points to the principle that a(ny) conviction is not automatic disqualification from a (current or future) job.

Then there is also the "right to be forgotten" which is quite a complex subject, and not all countries have such laws.

I'm not a lawyer so JMT...

[A Deshmukh]

Thanks, this is probably a reason why large sections of GOI have been compromised.

Our counter intelligence can find out which Babu's are compromised, based on children studying in US universities.

[Lisa]

If committing an offense is automatic disqualification then will a parking ticket be enough to fire? So we come back to relevance, proportionality, context, intent etc etc which is precisely what laws and legal system are made for to deal with. The company substituting itself for the justice system and a few other employees substituting for trained legal professionals and giving out a firing sentence just seems atrocious wokism to me.

If the transgression is a felonious one then you should be sacked. Fortunately a parking ticket is not but peeing on a 70 year old is. Either way, if you have brought your employers name in to disrepute, you should be summarily dismissed.

[Cyrano]

Can't paint everyone with the same brush. Where did Dr Sarabhai himself study?

[chetak]

The pisser was travelling on company business and on a company paid ticket. He was thus officially on duty. By his actions alone, he was solely responsible for his company's name being dragged through the mud.

If he was on company business by just firing post action can the company absolve itself.
The company is then fully responsible for his actions.

This incident is despicable, but not harmful. Would anyone travelling to office in car killing someone in accident make company responsible Or suitable for firing

isubodh ji,

yes indeed.

I specifically know of one gora company that fired two people during the time that I was associated with it

One guy came down a ladder the wrong way and in a manner not approved by the company. Sacked on the spot.

Another guy ran into a traffic violation whilst on leave and was also sacked because of that specific minor traffic violation.

This is a very large multinational and there was not even a little whisper of a protest in the company about the sackings.

and here in India, the bleddy father of the pisser is going on TV, alleging that his son is being blackmailed by a 72 year old whom his son deliberately pissed on in public and the pisser's bleddy lady lawyer is also going on TV saying that nothing is proven in a court of law.

what about the rights of the innocent 72 year old lady who was just minding her own business, lawfully occupying her seat which she had legally paid for.

What would have happened if a riot had broken out on the aircraft because of the uncouth actions of the pisser...

the pisser had tarnished his company's image even by the fact that the pisser's blood alcohol level was way above the the legal limit prescribed in India and that too in a public place, and specifically in an aircraft where there are many restrictions due to safety considerations involved. It showed a serious lack of judgement and piss poor (pun intended) appreciation of his environment as well as the specific social responsibilities he was bound to follow in an aircraft that was airborne. Safety was as much his responsibility as it was of the aircraft crew's.

The moment the aircraft doors were closed with the intention of taking off, the aircraft came under Indian laws. The aircraft was Indian owned/leased, the crew were all under Indian laws for the purpose of and the terms of their employment and discharge of their legal responsibilities. The captain now had the statutory authority to confine or otherwise physically restrain any passenger whom he/she considered as being detrimental to the safety of the aircraft and to the impediment of the performance of the duties of the aircraft crew and any hindrance to the conduct of the flight itself.

If you ask me, someone should publicly piss on all three of them and then confine them in a closed room for many hours after that.

[Cyrano]

Lisa ji,
In principle, of course a company has no reason to retain an employee bringing disrepute. The issue is who decides? Are they impartial? Based on what criteria, measurements, process? And that gets us back into legal domain.

Even between 2 companies, loss of reputation is hard to prove and harder to quantify. If you have a Wells Fargo Bank account, will you drop them just because 1 out of Xthousand employee got drunk and pissed on a plane?

Since the power and resource asymmetry is naturally skewed towards the employer, scope for abuse is very high. That's why third parties are needed.

In France for ex, any firing must be based on a real and serious cause, and the onus to demonstrate that is on the company if the employee challenges in a special court called Prud'homme which has a bench composed of employee and employers, has decent level of judicial powers. Works reasonably well in this society and context.

Lastly systems of punishment also have a goal of helping the individual correct/reform with the hope that the convicted will once again be a responsible member of the society and the belief that it's good for all in the long run.

With instant double justice plus public shaming in the internet SM age condemns the individual forever on top of whatever be the legal & penal consequences. It's up to each society to weigh pros and cons of that. And societies evolve a lot faster than fundamental human behaviour.

[Cyrano]

Chetak ji,
Yes, the response of captain and crew was piss poor and they too must face consequences.

[Lisa]

Cyranoji

The last bit of what I said is purely subjective.

In every human there is a base decorum. Its lack is normally fairly obvious and its absence needs to be a bar on how far up one progresses particularly if you are to rise to such a level at Wells Fargo - he should never have got this far!. I personally feel that this is not this individual's FIRST infraction but the first on which he has be caught. His colleagues at work may have been witnesses or victims of more. IMHO, even the statements give out by his lawyer do not appear to process any contrition but arrogance.

He is going to fall from a dizzying height and land with a thud.

[chetak]

Chetak ji,
Yes, the response of captain and crew was piss poor and they too must face consequences.

Cyrano ji,

I am a little confused about the "metrics" of the case

the pisser claims that he "compromised with the 72 year old lady and compensated her", the 72 year old lady on whom he had pissed and he paid her somewhere in the range of 10-15K which was then returned back to him.

How would he have calculated the 10-15K, would it have been on a per millilitre basis or flow rate or what....

or would it have been on the basis of area of coverage....

finally, would he have been so nonchalant in "compromise and compensation" had it been his mother, wife or daughter... Are we under sharia...and blood money is acceptable

dare we conclude that pee for the goose should also be pee for the gander.....

Why did he not pee on a hefty, well built male passenger, was he shy..or was he merely a chauvinist pig...being careful of the physical blowback that would have surely followed his golden shower


BTW, very recently and on another flight also involving Indians, a fist fight broke out because one punk of a passenger refused to set his seat in an upright and locked position for take off despite repeated requests by the cabin crew

How many people know the implications of a not having the aircraft seat locked and upright during take off, especially in the event of a crash during take off, and specifically for the passengers in front of and behind the clown who insisted on not setting his seat "locked and upright"

the primary function of an aircraft seat is to act as a restraining system to protect/minimize to the passenger from injury during a crash situation.

that one can also sit on it and perhaps sleep is just an added bonus.

The aircraft passenger seat is stressed for a certain amount of "G" forces in three axes and needs to be in a set predetermined position per its design criteria.

So in almost every flight we will have some punks pissing, some wilfully reclining, and also, some adamantly refusing to buckle up during take off.

That is why it is so very essential to kick this mishra guy so hard that everyone who does not cooperate with the aircraft crew gets the fear of god rammed into him/her.

With us Indians, the stick always works best.

[chetak]

Cyranoji

The last bit of what I said is purely subjective.

In every human there is a base decorum. Its lack is normally fairly obvious and its absence needs to be a bar on how far up one progresses particularly if you are to rise to such a level at Wells Fargo - he should never have got this far!. I personally feel that this is not this individual's FIRST infraction but the first on which he has be caught. His colleagues at work may have been witnesses or victims of more. IMHO, even the statements give out by his lawyer do not appear to process any contrition but arrogance.

He is going to fall from a dizzying height and land with a thud.

Absolutely right, Lisa ji.

I distinctly got the feeling that the mishra family somehow felt that they were entitled in some way.

It could be political or perhaps zamindari...in a gangs of wasseypur sort of way.

कुछ तो है, for sure

[chetak]

Chetak ji,
Yes, the response of captain and crew was piss poor and they too must face consequences.

alas, Cyrano ji, their unions are far too strong.....

[SRajesh]

Sir

So any wardrobe malfunction or some kind of naked protest would be in same category.

What you do with hundreds if not thousands of people relieving on road side or rail tracks

Enforcement force needed

Please
There’s a ‘Pacific Ocean’ between wardrobe malfunction and indecent exposure
Also roadside defecation is a social issue with quite a few societal implications
If you’re the lawyer for the pisser would you be willing to argue along lines you have suggested

[SriKumar]

Besides he has been charged under sections 294 (obscene act in public place), 354 (assault or criminal force to woman with intent to outrage her modesty), 509 (word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman) and 510 (misconduct in public by a drunken person) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) as well as under the Aircraft Rules.

chetak saab, Thanks for the links in your previous post. I had an inkling about this, but your links have inked my inkling with black and white certainty (my humble attempt at wordplay ).

It's highly unlikely that he will walk away from this fiasco unscathed. With such an enormous amount of bad publicity, the pisser is already a goner, a dead duck...

Agreed. For him the damage has been done and it is significant. Public naming and shaming in this era of internet, is bad news. His daughter (18 years now) will be known as the Air India pisser's daughter. The news will be on internet for the next 5 to 100 years. His unborn grandchildren will know what their grand-father did, probably from their yet unborn school friends. They will also see how their great-grandfather defended the in-defensible.

one thinks that the company had just cause to terminate him.

Absolutely. I did not want to go down the rabbit hole of US company law vs Indian company law but certain positions in certain companies require a certain public decorum to be maintained. Another reason is that if he does something like this again at a company party (or on a colleague during his course of work) the company would get sued, and sexual cases carry a huge penalty. The company would likely lose the case because there is public evidence of his deviant behavior and still kept him around (i.e. if they had not fired him). I agree with Lisa that this is probably not his first time with dodgy behavior, and he's likely gotten away with similar behavior in the past. This incident too would have been buried except that the letter to AI CEO was leaked to media, and the victim happens to be an elderly lady.

BTW, there was never any room for a "compromise" because in all such cases an FIR is MANDATORY, per existing regulations.

Did not know this fact.

The crew erred grievously in even attempting to effect such a "compromise".

YEs, this is what got to me the most. The crew who should have supported the lady instead made attemtps to effect a compromise and forced her to 'forgive him' much against what she wanted to do. I think even in Islamic/Talibanic law, the forgiveness (in exchange for blood money) is voluntary. If the victim does not want to forgive, they are not forced to forgive (there is a video I saw in the news where a Talibanic execution took place and the entire drama of the perpetarator's kin requesting forgiveness, and being denied, followed by an 'execution' with an AK-47 was captured in 20 seconds of video).

The major fault lies with the captain who was hiding in the cockpit and idiotically left the unholy mess to be dealt with by a bunch of inexperienced young ladies.

Agreed. He has a lot of authority, morally and legally. I believe a captain can kick out any passenger for any reason from a flight. If he had atleast arranged for security to meet and escort out the pisser, the case would not have come to this.

And I do fault the AI crew independently apart from the captain. It requires only common sense, and a sense of civic decency that you do whatever possible to help an old lady who has been urinated upon, in a closed environment of a plane where she could not even clean herself. A 15-year old kid would know this without needing to be told.

My only concern with this whole epsode is that this could happen again to any of our friends/sisters/mothers (or aged fathers) and probably cannot expect and protection/help from the cabin crew, or legal recourse to justice later on, unless national TV channels take it up.

[chetak]

hypocrites

majoritarianism okay in europe but not okay in India....

[Cyrano]

The target is Hungary which has banned LGBTQ+ propaganda in schools and public institutions. EU has held up its funding to Hungary to arm twist, Hungary has voted nyet on financing Ukraine and other proposals and showed the finger. Germany's woke leaders want to create a superior set of equals now ! Macron already quipped about Eu "reform" into core + peripheral circles...

[chetak]

Priti Gandhi - प्रीति गांधी@MrsGandhi

The Tapasvi wears Thermals!
#Gottcha

and pappu wading into his breakfast

viaParanjoyGuhaThakurta@paranjoygt

[chetak]

So Xtian values of repentance, punishment, reparation, forgiveness etc are totally passé ? How can someone be fired for an act in private life that has nothing to do with the company? The same Wells Fargo distinguished itself in Subprime crisis of 2008 didn't it? And had to be bailed out by Fed Govt ie printing press ie the whole world ie you and me - wasn't it? And who got fired, tried, jailed for that? Those were far bigger crimes than pissing on a hapless old woman in a drunk state, however disgusting it is. This American instant justice is cheap posturing lest anyone lift their hood and look inside.

WA

It’s sad that Wells Fargo fired Shankar Mishra as its VP just because he mistook a lady passenger on the Air India flight for the toilet.

They could have simply changed his designation to VeePee.

[chetak]

did the britshits merely formalize what was already in common usage or did actually they set the trend.....

Would anyone have some inputs on this

It's interesting to see the memorandum of British government on 2/9/1938 through which Mr M. K. Gandhi became Mahatma Gandhi officially.

And we thought the public gave him the title!

[Vayutuvan]

err their public schools are woefully underfunded. Teachers have to beg parents to provide supplies for students. It's the Chinese and India students who shine thanks to their parent's hard work and having studied in taxpayer funded systems in their home country.

Not at all. Public schools are reasonably well-funded, thank you.

[chetak]

Pee Gate: Show cause notices to 4 cabin crew, 1 pilot; all de-rostered pending investigation


https://www.aninews.in/news/national/ge ... 107164456/


also,

Air India to review its in-flight liquor policy following Pee-Gate furore

[vimal]

err their public schools are woefully underfunded. Teachers have to beg parents to provide supplies for students. It's the Chinese and India students who shine thanks to their parent's hard work and having studied in taxpayer funded systems in their home country.

Not at all. Public schools are reasonably well-funded, thank you.

Then it must be California school districts that must suck

[ricky_v]

i must say, i am very impressed, India has truly reached the echelons of the first world, when all news portals and reams of dissertation are written about a delinquent and his escapades, and on the dissection of the actions of a private entity or their lack thereof. Kudos to all and a job well done, the admins can close off many threads, starting with this one that has the words "Strategic" and "Political" in its title; we are content with the "Analysis" portion.

Tabloid gossip and pearl-clutching is the end goal of all civilisations, and in this regard, I am proud to report India and its inhabitants have now proven themselves second to none, all social indicators that were outlined in the directive principles of state policy have been met, we might as well petition to remove that section from the constitution, might give us something to be occupied with.

[chetak]

i must say, i am very impressed, India has truly reached the echelons of the first world, when all news portals and reams of dissertation are written about a delinquent and his escapades, and on the dissection of the actions of a private entity or their lack thereof. Kudos to all and a job well done, the admins can close off many threads, starting with this one that has the words "Strategic" and "Political" in its title; we are content with the "Analysis" portion.

Tabloid gossip and pearl-clutching is the end goal of all civilisations, and in this regard, I am proud to report India and its inhabitants have now proven themselves second to none, all social indicators that were outlined in the directive principles of state policy have been met, we might as well petition to remove that section from the constitution, might give us something to be occupied with.

if his name wasn't mishra, there would be no news because the presstitute media would have buried it totally

[ricky_v]

if his name wasn't mishra, there would be no news because the presstitute media would have buried it totally

that may be so sir, my point is more why are we discussing it here? is there a strategic or political connotation to it? yes his name his mishra, but where do we draw the line with that metric? tripathi, dwivedi, arora, singh, shah, patel, vasavda, kumar? what name would it take for the august members to not write post after post scrutinising this affair, especially given the fact that no strategic or political comprehension is gained by such an exercise which is this thread's mandate; and that actually important parameters that should be covered and discussed are never undertaken; the end result is not a forum for vision and outlook but a local panwaari where all and sundry moan and gossip about articles of varying degrees of pointlessness

[chetak]

if his name wasn't mishra, there would be no news because the presstitute media would have buried it totally

that may be so sir, my point is more why are we discussing it here? is there a strategic or political connotation to it? yes his name his mishra, but where do we draw the line with that metric? tripathi, dwivedi, arora, singh, shah, patel, vasavda, kumar? what name would it take for the august members to not write post after post scrutinising this affair, especially given the fact that no strategic or political comprehension is gained by such an exercise which is this thread's mandate; and that actually important parameters that should be covered and discussed are never undertaken; the end result is not a forum for vision and outlook but a local panwaari where all and sundry moan and gossip about articles of varying degrees of pointlessness

mishra as in non minority, period.

[fanne]

guys can be give this peeing incident a rest and get on with more serious issues?

[la.khan]

i must say, i am very impressed, India has truly reached the echelons of the first world, when all news portals and reams of dissertation are written about a delinquent and his escapades, and on the dissection of the actions of a private entity or their lack thereof. Kudos to all and a job well done, the admins can close off many threads, starting with this one that has the words "Strategic" and "Political" in its title; we are content with the "Analysis" portion.

Tabloid gossip and pearl-clutching is the end goal of all civilisations, and in this regard, I am proud to report India and its inhabitants have now proven themselves second to none, all social indicators that were outlined in the directive principles of state policy have been met, we might as well petition to remove that section from the constitution, might give us something to be occupied with.

+1. So much of bandwidth over a mid-air peeing incident. Yes, the event was unfortunate and/or disgusting. But the media, and surprisingly, BRF spending so much time on this? We sure bring nuance to pee

The offender was fired by his firm and the airline is making amends. Can we please rest this?

[Cyrano]

Right Ricky_v, we have beaten that horse to death for saath janam. Lets move on...

The Govt has sent its own list to SC, with some names from the Collegium list removed and new names added. The ball in SC. This is a good move. They are stuck if they reject the govt list, they will have ceded ground if they accept it. Interesting situation to follow.

[SRajesh]

did the britshits merely formalize what was already in common usage or did actually they set the trend.....

Would anyone have some inputs on this

It's interesting to see the memorandum of British government on 2/9/1938 through which Mr M. K. Gandhi became Mahatma Gandhi officially.

And we thought the public gave him the title!

Chetakji
The title was first used by (you will be surprised) by one of Tagore’s elder brother and later popularised by Gurudev!!
As usual the Congressman just usurped someone else’s work.
Remember there’s all sorts of Britshits connection between Tagore/certain congressman/MKG himself
Once this was made official he meaning MKG started believing he’s the Mahatama. Delusion of Grandeur

[Cyrano]

Dissenting her way to the top?
https://www.newindianexpress.com/thesun ... 35692.html

Does the Govt has a say on who becomes CJI or is it an automatic calculus or hizzoners decide among themselves?

[Tanaji]

Ricky_v saar

Part of the reason we discuss it here is because the Adminullah Bredators nuked the God of all threads “Nukkad thread” where all the serious discussions used to occur so us denizens are covertly using this one….

[sanjayc]

Whites are using the same strategy, as designating Gandhi as "Mahatama", with someone else too to create illusions of grandeur.

CJI Chandrachud to be conferred with 'Award for Global Leadership' by Harvard Law School Center
At the event, professor David Wilkins of the Harvard Law School will also have a conversation with the CJI

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 349620.ece

[VinodTK]

Ex-army chief Gen Kapoor, other veterans march with Rahul during Bharat Jodo

"Many senior army former officers including ex-Chief of Army Staff General Deepak Kapoor, Lt General RK Hooda, Lt General VK Narula, AM PS Bhangu, Major General Satbir Singh Chaudhary, Maj General Dharmender Singh, Colonel Jitender Gill, Colonel Pushpender Singh, Lt General DDS Sandhu, Major General Bishamber Dayal, Colonel Rohit Chaudhry joined the Bharat Jodo Yatra in Haryana," tweeted Congress MP Manickam Tagore along with the pictures.

Wonder as two why the above mentioned people think the old leadership was good!!!

[sanjaykumar]

Today's Guardian has two stories involving people from India, one is Rajwinder Singh-another of those fine gentlemen who find themselves innocently accused in their host countries https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... from-india

Of greater import is the review of a book by Kenan Malik, an Indian from the South, providing a reminder of the cultural contrasts to be found in India. And also a reason to continue to read this paper.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... -and-white

Malik reports on some interesting European and American arguments on the great replacement theory which definitely has echoes in and implications for India, including the fertility rate argument. Only in India such minorities have a ready made homeland, or a homeland from which they migrated in 1947.

There is one fundamental flaw in the moral outrage of the western great replacement discourse. It is quite obvious but unfortunately even the liberal press (Guardian/Observer) fails to make a note of it. Not likely an oversight.

[fanne]

Hain ji explain in less harder English please

[chetak]

Ex-army chief Gen Kapoor, other veterans march with Rahul during Bharat Jodo

"Many senior army former officers including ex-Chief of Army Staff General Deepak Kapoor, Lt General RK Hooda, Lt General VK Narula, AM PS Bhangu, Major General Satbir Singh Chaudhary, Maj General Dharmender Singh, Colonel Jitender Gill, Colonel Pushpender Singh, Lt General DDS Sandhu, Major General Bishamber Dayal, Colonel Rohit Chaudhry joined the Bharat Jodo Yatra in Haryana," tweeted Congress MP Manickam Tagore along with the pictures.

Wonder as two why the above mentioned people think the old leadership was good!!!

in taalash of future prospects

single malt with tandoor and mushaira in lahore

track thoo at exotic locales and five star खातिरदारी with femme fatales

[madhu]

did the britshits merely formalize what was already in common usage or did actually they set the trend.....

Would anyone have some inputs on this

Ajmal Khan’s welcome speech at the Congress’s 1918 annual session in Delhi, wherein he referred to Gandhi as ‘Mahatma Gandhi’, the ‘acknowledged and revered leader of the country’. It is this popularity that enabled Gandhi to take up the agitation against the Rowlatt Act with support from across the country, especially from the Muslim community.130 The other practical reason for Muslim support to Gandhi’s anti-Rowlatt agitation was the fact that the Rowlatt Act could severely restrict the activities of the pan-Islamists. Therefore, the Muslim community had a specific incentive to support Gandhi on this front.(India, Bharat and Pakistan; Sai Deepak; Loc: 9236-9241 )

[sanjaykumar]

Hain ji explain in less harder English please

I had to laugh out loud at that.

[SRajesh]

did the britshits merely formalize what was already in common usage or did actually they set the trend.....

Would anyone have some inputs on this

Ajmal Khan’s welcome speech at the Congress’s 1918 annual session in Delhi, wherein he referred to Gandhi as ‘Mahatma Gandhi’.(India, Bharat and Pakistan; Sai Deepak; Loc: 9236-9241 )

sirji:
The RTI Act is a powerful weapon to get information on anything that is in public interest. However, a few RTI activists in the city are taking this a bit too literally, it seems. They are keen to know when and on what grounds was the Father of the Nation, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, given the title of the Mahatma!

The Sanskrit word Mahatma, which means a great soul, is often taken to be Gandhi’s given name in the West. History books tells us poet and Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore bestowed the title on Gandhi in 1915 while writing his autobiography after the latter called him Gurudev. But our RTI activists are not convinced.

One such RTI activist Raju Malthumkar shot off an RTI query to the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) seeking to know how, when and why MK Gandhi was given the honour of being called Mahatma. He also sought to know when he was called the Father of the Nation.

Officials at the PMO forwarded the request to the Indian Council of Historical Research (ICHR) and the National Archives of India (NAI), Archeology Department. “The ICHR addressed a letter to me, in which it mentioned that it does not have any documentary information on this case. Even the National Archives of India also said that it had no information on this. They also mentioned in the letter that I am welcome to make use of their library and archival facilities on any further information I wish to know,” Raju said.

Apart from MK Gandhi, two others were also given the title of Mahatma. One was Mahatma Wesley Branch Rickey, a major league baseball executive and Mahatma Jyotirao Govindrao Phule, also known as Mahatma Jotiba Phule, an activist, social reformer and a revolutionary from Maharashtra.

“Gandhiji was instrumental in bringing us freedom. When there are others who have been recognised by the government, why not Gandhiji?” questioned Raju. But all the same, he wants to know the “facts.”

Commenting on the issue, a research scholar, Anuradha Panchagada, Department of History, University of Hyderabad, said, “Mahatma is like an honour that has been given by people to Gandhiji. There are definitely pros and cons of being bestowed with such a title, but a prominent personality like Gandhiji surely does not need something like this in writing!”
Guruvdev wrote his autoB in1915.
And his elder brother was the one who coined it.
I will dig up the link to that.
All just used it to their advantages and needs

[Prem Kumar]

Whites are using the same strategy, as designating Gandhi as "Mahatama", with someone else too to create illusions of grandeur.

CJI Chandrachud to be conferred with 'Award for Global Leadership' by Harvard Law School Center
At the event, professor David Wilkins of the Harvard Law School will also have a conversation with the CJI

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 349620.ece

Nupur Sharma (OpIndia) and Rajiv Malhotra discussed at length a couple of weeks back about how CJI Chandrachud is a Harvard Manchurian candidate. His language is one of Critical Race Theory & it serves as a framework for his SC judgments. Listen to the wonderful interview in full

The Harvard award is 100% predictable. A key snake in the Ganga identified