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How will the public sentiment be gauged? Will there be a survey? This is an ambiguous statement. It makes me think that Govt is keeping the option of helping open. I hope it comes with conditions though. Public sentiment can always be manipulated. This statement is different from a categorical no that EAM said in the ANI podcast recently regarding helping Pakistan.
Public sentiment in India regarding the pakis was always loud and clear.
It is only now that the truth is being openly acknowledged without spin and woke misdirection. The presstitutes are lying low because they know that if they push the paki/cheeni line too openly, there will be a blowback whose consequences cannot be gaged in advance but for sure, it will not go well for them
We have absolutely nothing in common with the vile pakis, never ever had, never ever did, and never ever will. They are international parasites, cultural plague and corrupt pestilence.
The congis disregarded the public sentiment because they were being driven by a lootyens cabal that was tight with the eyetalian mafia and the whole venomous ecosystem was led, fed, and feted, by the BIF which needs to doctor public sentiments in India just like bollywood and the malsi minions who infest that ecosystem are being paid to do.
And like posturing peacocks, the pakis and the cheeni embassy staff were strutting about India in general, and dilli in particular, because they knew that they were deeply entrenched in and also embraced by this habitat and additionally, they also had the unstinted support of the treacherous presstitute media, bollywood, and the commie naxal infested woke academia, and last, but not the least, the political parties of the comrades who were openly endorsing them and singing their praises in media like the mount street mao.
In such a environment, the babooze, eagerly and neatly slotted in, both retired and serving, ex IFS, IAS, IPS, intelligence, military, "civil society", and pox afflicted political fixers like doolat, shooklawless et al who pitched a particular line, extolled a specific viewpoint, and also pushed many singularly rotten political individuals like the notorious caped sharia lady and her quack remedies for paki intervention in the valley and the pater-son duo of cashmeri thieves and notorious purveyors of paki grade snake oil, as the panacea for all the yeevils that had beset cashmere. Recently these malevolent clowns have dragged in the cheeni, pleading publicly for their help.
There is nothing common between us and the pakis, except for a few deluded and nostalgic panjus who were chased away from their ancient homelands by the very paki vermin whose praises these few foolish panjus are attempting to sing now.
Expectedly, their increasing lonely voices have become discordant, their jarring tunes are off key, and their sentiments have become progressively unpalatable, unacceptable and also very unpopular.
Such relics of the past need to be disregarded and their ersatz sentiments buried for good.
The global realities of today are too complex to be seen through the colored prism of foolish nostalgia and these panjus seem to forget that their imagined rainbow of those times was blood red in color, soaked through and through, by the rivers of blood that flowed after the paki hordes had paid due homage to foundations of their origins in the deserts of a faraway land almost 14 centuries ago
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Miftah Ismail: I would just add to Atif was saying and just say that when we came in power in April and had gone to Saudi Arabia to, among other things, asked for some deposits, at that point we were selling diesel in Pakistan cheaper than Saudi Arabia. And we were selling petrol and diesel both cheaper than the UAE. So it's not just the average of the world. I mean, we were selling cheaper than Saudi Arabia and UAE. And even today, after the 16% increase in prices, our fuel prices are still cheaper than India, for instance, and I think perhaps even cheaper than Bangladesh. And what that does is actually then it actually then increases demand so that then you have to spend a lot of foreign exchange to to buy this. And, you know, this is something that the state bank and myself had been, you know, saying that, you know, to, to increase the prices domestically so that the demand would be curtailed and hence, you know, our foreign exchange going for imports of fuel would be less.
chetak wrote:Public sentiment in India regarding the pakis was always loud and clear.
It was never this negative as it is today. Maybe in 1971 but I wouldn't know. Since 2008 in particular it has been on a one-way downward spiral, and rightfully so. But we have yet to hold them fully accountable for the effects of their poisonous ideology to the Indian nation and to the Indic civilization. There are still sections of society which do not perceive them with the deserved negativity, in part due to being more concerned with their more immediate issues and in part due to politics, but these views are mattering less every passing day as Pakistan continues its self-goal scoring spree.
partha wrote:
How will the public sentiment be gauged? Will there be a survey? This is an ambiguous statement.
he says "Public sentiment is Loud and Clear" . it is to the Right of BRF.
The media has taken a line out of context (though public sentiment is also at an all time low as far as Pak is concerned).
What EAM said (brackets are mine)is:
- A country would ideally like to help its neighbor in trouble.
- That assumes the affected neighbor would like a normal relationship (with India).
- If there isn't a normal relationship (of peaceful co-existence) that country needs to make hard choices about what path it wants to pursue.
Other countries can't make that choice for it.
- Its difficult for aid to rescue a country, if its biggest industry is terrorism.
- (State sponsored) Terror is the issue affecting ties.
- In this context, public sentiment has to be considered before any policy towards Pak has to be considered.
he says "Public sentiment is Loud and Clear" . it is to the Right of BRF.
Whats pathetic is this question was posed by an ex diplomat who would have worked with/under Dr SJ. Decades of brainwashing in display. Only good thing is it gave him the opportunity to publicly trash this line of thinking.
Popular culture is a barometer of deep civilisational values.
Lachrymose love stories in India where love has been forbidden. Guns and violence in Hollywood is not accidental. Both sell.
So what is the point? Pathaan runs houseful. Is this factually correct? Was the audience all Muslim? Do Hindus remain naive and gullible, being soon parted with their money?
Is this the public sentiment in question? I have no interest in watching this art but the story line is laughably presposterous.
PC is compromised and Pakis have something very very big on him.
Maybe one day it’ll come out. I don’t know what but my gut feeling tells me that.
I suspect a honey trap .
Same with Sonia, Rahul, Anand Sharma, Kapil Sibal and Jairam Ramesh - Pakis have something on them- reason being that they indulge Pakis a lot without any electoral benefit at home.
"Pakistan will unwillingly accept strict conditions of IMF deal: PM Shehbaz Sharif"
This is good news. Pakistan should continue to slither in mud for some more years.
In the meantime, India must ensure that Sindh also has a significant separatist movement.
It is testament to the naivete and stupidity of Indian politico strategic leadership that they have not been able to encourage separatism in Sindh in all these decades, despite the poor downstream province frequently getting short end of the stick from Punjab.
In a much shorter time, the US has turned Ukraine against Russia.
Meaning the high inflation is hitting military too since Opex budget is fixed. Interesting that article mentions that there is struggle feeding 2 meals….no breakfast kya? .does that mean We are going to see 5ft 50kg skinny soldiers of Allah ….we’d better get NCC cadets ready for this challenge.
Meaning the high inflation is hitting military too since Opex budget is fixed. Interesting that article mentions that there is struggle feeding 2 meals….no breakfast kya? .does that mean We are going to see 5ft 50kg skinny soldiers of Allah ….we’d better get NCC cadets ready for this challenge.
Some days ago, one of the official Indian Army handles had tweeted a video of Agniveers training. It included a clip from their dining hall and the store that had sacks and sacks of Atta stacked all the way from the floor to the roof!
Meaning the high inflation is hitting military too since Opex budget is fixed. Interesting that article mentions that there is struggle feeding 2 meals….no breakfast kya? .does that mean We are going to see 5ft 50kg skinny soldiers of Allah ….we’d better get NCC cadets ready for this challenge.
Its just a way of Pak Army telling Govt, `Don't dare cut our budget'.
PC is compromised and Pakis have something very very big on him.
Maybe one day it’ll come out. I don’t know what but my gut feeling tells me that.
I suspect a honey trap .
Same with Sonia, Rahul, Anand Sharma, Kapil Sibal and Jairam Ramesh - Pakis have something on them- reason being that they indulge Pakis a lot without any electoral benefit at home.
Neela ji,
regarding that particular specimen, there are uncounted references to sandwiches and that goes for père et fils.
looks like a family craving and one that would attract many artistic and eager photographers to ply their trade
Funds $ 700 million received today by State Bank of Pakistan from China Development Bank.
Pakistan should take that money and throw it in China's face and ask them to stop oppressing Uyghurs first!
Just kidding. All dollars are totally okay now.
It's a slap on the face of IMF though. As the daring former NSA told US "Pakistan has options". Finally IMF will be forced to accept Pakistan's demands and provide funds on Pakistan's terms. Saudi officials will complete the study to invest $10 billion in Pakistan anytime now and then who needs IMF.
Meaning the high inflation is hitting military too since Opex budget is fixed. Interesting that article mentions that there is struggle feeding 2 meals….no breakfast kya? .does that mean We are going to see 5ft 50kg skinny soldiers of Allah ….we’d better get NCC cadets ready for this challenge.
Some days ago, one of the official Indian Army handles had tweeted a video of Agniveers training. It included a clip from their dining hall and the store that had sacks and sacks of Atta stacked all the way from the floor to the roof!
What are you trying to say? That I should gather NCC to protect a high value Atta sacks from Paki army
No food , salaries not doing enough , inflation biting frontline soldiers…..don’t think any sane soldier would risk his life when his govt screws him over. The battle with TTP is lost without firing a bullet . Sounds Like Paki strategic brilliance to me
The gap between rupee’s value in the interbank and open markets is rising again, creating a black market where the dollar is being traded at a much higher price.
The development comes as the rupee has been gaining strength, jumping from a record low of 276.58 on Feb 3 to 259.99 on Friday in the interbank market. In the open market, the rupee closed at 268 against the dollar.
In the black market, however, the local currency is now changing hands at significantly higher rates of up to Rs 300 per dollar.
Bankers said the rupee’s strength was not because the government or the central bank was influencing the exchange rate, but it was due to a strict policy of not allowing the opening of letters of credit (LCs) for imports.
Manish_P wrote:A-o-A the Paki rupiah touches the 300 to a dollar mark... in one market for now
Exactly, was about to post that article.
So now Paxtan has 3 dollar rates. One is the interbank or official dollar rate, which exists but you just cannot buy dollars at this price. The other is the so-called open market rate, which is supposed to be close to the official dollar rate ever since they stopped trying to control the latter. Problem is that now the open market rate has again diverged from the "uncontrolled" official dollar rate. I am not sure who can buy dollars at the open market rate. Then the third is the black market rate which is where you can actually buy dollars.
Oh and there is a 4th rate, referred to as the Kabul rate (https://www.dawn.com/news/1734010). PKR's 4 shades of grey for the greenback.
Construction work on at least 300 projects in Karachi, Hyderabad and Sukkur has come to a halt as builders’ boycott of purchasing steel bars at arbitrarily high rates enters its third week.
Stopping genuine builders from buying steel who have taken billions of rupees from their clients with a promise of timely possession is an illegal act, he slammed, adding that a few builders are acting like a mafia or a cartel.
There are about 400 steel units in the country and no cartelisation can take place given a large number of steel manufacturers, he claimed. The reality of the situation is that due to scarcity of raw materials, some 30pc units are non-operational. The running units are operating below 50pc capacity.
Sorry to say this but you maulaners on BRF are reading the news about food shortage for TSPA wrongly. It is just a window dressing to send out the message that we are also feeling the hunger like bhooka nanga phata abduls. This is a narrative being built against the mangoes thinking about raiding army ration depots. Hey looky we are also hungry like jou so nothing to see here.. shoo..
^ true but the junior ranks will be feeling the pinch being faced by their families. The jernails are getting worried about being halaled by their own not the awaami abduls.
Dilbu wrote:Sorry to say this but you maulaners on BRF are reading the news about food shortage for TSPA wrongly. It is just a window dressing to send out the message that we are also feeling the hunger like bhooka nanga phata abduls. This is a narrative being built against the mangoes thinking about raiding army ration depots. Hey looky we are also hungry like jou so nothing to see here.. shoo..
Dilbu saar
It depends if remote posts are part of logistics chain. Centralized procurement and distribution works for most. But there are perishable goods which are met by opex budgets. When prices due to inflation,something has to give
Let the bakis eat ghass as was promised by bhuttoo. They achieved aataami takat more than 20 yrs ago, now is their time to pay for their misdeeds. Let them meet their fate. Any bleading hearts can take a one way ticket to that $hithole country.
Forum readers need to keep in mind, the paki ISI is quite active in India especially in Punjab., Khalistanis are running literally amock.. Drugs and counterfeit money along with white washers like AAP ., that $hit of a country deserves to self destruct into a thousand enclaves.Cant understand why even one indian would even want to think sending aid to the porkis
My hunch Modi will bail out Pakistan: Ex-RAW chief Dulat
Is this just budda Dulat's wet dream or he has some inside info?
1. Jaishankar's statement about helping only if public sentiment is in favor of it
2. One RSS person's statement that India should offer wheat - though I should say this was said in a mocking tone.
3. Now this Dulat's statement.
Dulat is the equivalent of MKB in IFS: playing devil’s advocate to mould opinion in the opposite direction by their sheer absurdity.
EAM on the other hand has clearly said GoI will go by public opinion and current opinion is obviously “watch pakis flush themselves down the Indus”.
End of the day, after their current loans come through, the civvie pakis will forget any good India does while khaki pakis like the ISPR clown at Karachi Litt Fest bide their time before burying their venomous fangs on India.
I think by now, GoI is full of folks who grew up watching the evilness of Mumbai attacks and the aftermath of pakis playing games by protecting the horrible perps. There is a big difference from the level of bonhomie lead by post-partition Lutyens crowd some ten years back and the current indifferent silence from the younger Lutyens crowd. The old Lutyens crowd is being replaced by younger ones who are more thin skinned about public opprobrium and derision.
My hunch Modi will bail out Pakistan: Ex-RAW chief Dulat
Is this just budda Dulat's wet dream or he has some inside info?
1. Jaishankar's statement about helping only if public sentiment is in favor of it
2. One RSS person's statement that India should offer wheat - though I should say this was said in a mocking tone.
3. Now this Dulat's statement.
I just hope nothing is cooking.
the RSS persons was and is being deliberately and wilfully misquoted by the press.
I just don't understand why these dunderheads don't keep quiet. It has nothing to do with them because they are not in the chain of command
dulat is being paid in kind, all expenses included, and hefty appearance fees and is also the beneficiary of a regal and imperial standard of mehman nawazi and even he is long past caring about who else knows all this.
Every time I see the faker on social media/youtube, I feel the need to take a shower to try and wash away all signs and traces of his very distasteful and disgustingly venomous persona of a treacherous and treasonist snake.
Also, amarjeet singh has never been a favourite of the Modi govt and Doval knows him, inside out
Youtube is now full of reports from Pakistan regarding how Modiji should become the PM of Pakistan and save the country! A non starter, as a kafir can not become the PM or President, you need to become a true Muslim for that. Another idea going around is that as a Sanatani, Modiji has an obligation to save Pakistan. For this, Dr. S. Jaishankar is being cussed for opposing this charity. Over all things are getting dire.
India can help by purchasing some of the top terrorists and bring them to India for justice. But, as the legal process will take decades, it would be better to delegate this tasks to the Afghanis, who will do the job cheaply and with joy.
Gautam
Why does India need to care about ordinary Pakistani citizens more than Pakistan cares about ordinary Pakistani citizens?
Get rid of plots for Jernails and Kernails, get rid of military perks, halve the army, stop funding terrorists, stop buying french submarines, chinese planes and american air-to-air missiles, make the Gymkhanas and Golf courses pay market rate rent.
That money will be more than enough for pay for attas and electricity for mango abduls.
Or, India can pay for atta and electricity for mango abduls and Pakistan can continue to fund terrorists, maintain a large army and buy trinkets for it, and continue giving plots to Jernails and Kernails.
[quote="g.sarkar"]Youtube is now full of reports from Pakistan regarding how Modiji should become the PM of Pakistan and save the country! A non starter, as a kafir can not become the PM or President, you need to become a true Muslim for that.
Sir, those are all indian psy-ops channels (self-declared).. but yes nice opportunity for lower rung BJP netas/indian anchors to start making statements on how Pakistani constitution needs to be made 'secular', 'inclusive', 'pasmanda friendly', 'non-patriarchal' and what not
@ThePakDaily https://twitter.com/ThePakDaily/status/ ... 8581530626
Sources claim
@FinMinistryPak
has instructed AGPR to stop clearance of bills, including salaries of various departments as the economic crisis worsens.
Ernestji,
Why bother? Modiji has taken the right attitude by just ignoring them, as if they do not exist. That hurts the feelings of Mard-e-Momin much more that any thing else, as Kafir Dhimmies must fear them and be in awe of their prowess. They are forever afraid of becoming a Sri Lanka or Allah forbid a Bhutan. Yet Sri Lanka and Bhutan are doing far better than Pakistan and have a better future.
Gautam
partha wrote:
How will the public sentiment be gauged? Will there be a survey? This is an ambiguous statement. It makes me think that Govt is keeping the option of helping open. I hope it comes with conditions though. Public sentiment can always be manipulated. This statement is different from a categorical no that EAM said in the ANI podcast recently regarding helping Pakistan.
g.sarkar wrote:Ernestji,
Why bother? Modiji has taken the right attitude by just ignoring them, as if they do not exist. That hurts the feelings of Mard-e-Momin much more that any thing else, as Kafir Dhimmies must fear them and be in awe of their prowess. They are forever afraid of becoming a Sri Lanka or Allah forbid a Bhutan. Yet Sri Lanka and Bhutan are doing far better than Pakistan and have a better future.
Gautam
Yes
That's the better way. My post was just some kind of non response that we should keep for Aman ke tamasha gang. Keep them begging forever and remind them why they need to beg.
