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A grand building just for a Sea Harrier museum. WOW!

https://twitter.com/VSReddy_MP/status/1 ... XPh8Q9Wwug ---> Sea Harriers that operated from both Aircraft Carriers INS Vikrant and INS Viraat will be on display at a museum built by the Visakhapatnam Metropolitan Region Development Authority (VMRDA). The aircraft will be hung on the ceiling to give it a flying appearance. Patriotic initiative by CM @ysjagan to boost Vizag’s tourism sector.

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I flew Sea Harriers for the Indian Navy
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One sordid episode during Emergency.

Curious about the submarines question.

http://www.hvk.org/1998/0198/0093.html
That dynastic subversion of the Navy - The India Express
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Title: That dynastic subversion of the Navy
Author: Satyindra Singh
Publication: The India Express
Date: January 30, 1998
When the emergency was clamped on the nation in June '75, most of
the instruments of the state had been debauched. Indira Gandhi
had pretty much killed the Congress party, which was one vehicle,
especially under her father, Nehru, of ensuring that a vast
country like India was ruled by consensus. She destroyed the
powers of the chief ministers and damaged the federal structure.
She had pressurised the judiciary and sapped its independence by
appointing mediocre judges and transferring to inconsequential
outposts those judges who dared to assert their independence. She
damaged the independence of the bureaucracy by calling for a
committed civil service. She even politicised the armed forces by
using it for civilian purposes by manipulating promotions. Then
the Sanjay mafia took over.
To sustain Indira Gandhi's regime after a plaint President had
signed the emergency proclamation, her admirers and courtiers,
led by Sanjay, brought crowds; and the roadcrossing in front of
her house at Safdarjung Road became the scene of round the clock
political melas. The crowds' requirements of transport and water
were met by pliant governments in Haryana and UP. Aid was also
sought from the army. Gen T. N. Raina was also from the 'clan'
and had become the Army Chief after superseding at least one
officer senior to him. He came under tremendous pressure, but it
goes to his soldierly credit that he did not succumb.
Sanjay Gandhi's meddling in military affairs in his capacity as
an extra-constitutional authority cannot be ignored. For, we need
to focus on such bizarre occurrences in the wake of Sonia
Gandhi's aggressive rhetoric of the achievements of the Dynasty
and why it should be voted back to bring glory to India.
It was January 1976 and the occasion was the fifth review of the
Naval Fleet at Bombay by the President and Supreme Commander
Fakhruddin All Ahmed. Bansi Lal was the Defence Minister and he
had ensured that Sanjay was positioned as a VVIP in INS Vikrant.
After the usual tea party held on the lawns of the Navy House, a
message was delivered from Bansi Lal and Sanjay who wished to
interview Vice Admirals Jal Cursetji and K L Kulkarni, the then C-
in-Cs of the Western and Eastern Naval Commands. The job for
which this weird selection board had assembled was to select the
next Chief of the Naval Staff to succeed Admiral S. N. Kohli.
A heated discussion took place at Navy House when Kulkarni
objected to this interview. Eventually both the 'candidates'
went. Next morning Kulkarni was livid when he and Jal Cursetji
were kept waiting for hours for the two VVIPs at the Shipping
Corporation of India Guest House. According to Kulkarni, Bansi
Lal told him that Sanjay wished to interview him. He was asked
for his views on submarines and all the queries directed to him
came from Sanjay himself.
Jal Cursetji was eventually selected
and served a full tenure as Chief of Naval Staff.
The third candidate in the running, Vice Admiral Krishnan, the
seniormost with considerable operational experience and also a
Distinguished Service Cross awardee in World War II for
outstanding bravery had presumably been eliminated in the
preliminary round itself. The method of selection for this top
job in the defence services was known to Admiral Kohli and was
narrated to me a few days ago by the Western Fleet Commander,
with whom Kulkarni stayed. Even otherwise the story is too well
known to many old timers in the Navy and is indeed remembered
with guilt and shame.
But what is disturbing is the attempted subversion of one of the
ultimate instruments of the state by an extra-constitutional
authority in collusion with a serving defence minister. Here was
a patently illegal order to two senior naval officers, but both
thought that disobedience would have been at their personal
peril.
Sonia Gandhi has to remember that the dynasty has much to hide
and history does not change by turning the faces of portraits to
the wall. Sharad Pawar - the better-late-than-never Sonia
courtier - has described Sonia as a Sanjivini. Sycophancy has
devoured emperors. The Romans knew that.
(The writer is a former rear admiral)
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ramana wrote:Curious about the submarines question.
Likely Type 209/1500, the deal for which was signed in Dec 1981. Sanjay Gandhi died on 23 June 1980.

This incident occurred in the mid 1970s. After the induction of the 8 Foxtrot Class boats (4 Kalvari + 4 Vela), the Navy wanted a new submarine to complement the Kalvari & Vela Class. That led to the acquisition of the HDW 209, Type 1500 boat. A deal mired in controversy and also truncated. This deal is one of the reasons why VP Singh resigned from the Rajiv Gandhi Govt. This truncated purchase then led to the Kilo Class purchase, of which 10 boats were eventually acquired.
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https://twitter.com/CestMoiz/status/162 ... 12673?s=20 ---> Folks, today is the 77th anniversary of the Royal Indian Navy mutiny. I guess not many remembered. Here's a short thread on that.
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https://twitter.com/mananbhattnavy/stat ... 60000?s=20 ---> Two old stalwarts in a single frame - #VIRAAT #VIKRANT

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I am looking for these two books for almost years , can't find any ..

25 Missile Boat Squadron: An Untold Story by Vijay Jerath

The Indo-Pakistani War Of 1971: Volume 2 - Showdown in the West by Ravi Rikhye
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shaun wrote:I am looking for these two books for almost years , can't find any ..

25 Missile Boat Squadron: An Untold Story by Vijay Jerath

The Indo-Pakistani War Of 1971: Volume 2 - Showdown in the West by Ravi Rikhye
https://www.amazon.ca/25-Missile-Boat-S ... 8172344783

https://www.amazon.ca/Indo-Pakistani-Wa ... C94&sr=1-1
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Rakesh wrote:
shaun wrote:I am looking for these two books for almost years , can't find any ..

25 Missile Boat Squadron: An Untold Story by Vijay Jerath

The Indo-Pakistani War Of 1971: Volume 2 - Showdown in the West by Ravi Rikhye
https://www.amazon.ca/25-Missile-Boat-S ... 8172344783

https://www.amazon.ca/Indo-Pakistani-Wa ... C94&sr=1-1
Thanks but 1st one is not available and 2nd one I prebooked it 2 years back !!! :D
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shaun wrote:
Thanks but 1st one is not available and 2nd one I prebooked it 2 years back !!! :D
First one is available (but you have to pay for shipping). Click on that link again, check out the right hand side of the screen and click on the See All Buying Options button.

Second one is releasing on Pakistan Independence Day in 2023 :mrgreen: You waited for 2 years, just another few months more.
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Rakesh wrote:Satish The Submariner
https://www.indianpolitics.co.in/satish-the-submariner/
07 Dec 2022

Very nice history of the submarine arm.
A lot of progress despite British perfidy.
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VIDEO: https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 89825?s=20 ---> MoU signed between Indian Navy and the Indian Coast Guard with @IPRCL_Mumbai for developing a gallery at the 'National Maritime Heritage Complex (NMHC)' being constructed at the historic Indus Valley civilization region of Lothal (Gujarat).
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First tweet below is from Admiral Arun Prakash (retd) - Former Chief of Naval Staff and a White Tiger veteran!

https://twitter.com/arunp2810/status/16 ... 99808?s=20 ---> Greetings to fellow White Tigers of INAS 300, on the squadron’s 62nd anniversary. You are lucky to have two “Mothers” now. Good hunting & happy landings!

https://twitter.com/thisdayin_IN/status ... 50272?s=20 ---> The oldest Indian Navy fighter squadron, INAS 300 (White Tigers) completes 63 years in service of the Nation today. Raised on 07 July 1960, in the United Kingdom under Lieutenant Commander BD Law. It saw action in the 1971 Indo-Pak War off the erstwhile carrier Vikrant.

https://twitter.com/thisdayin_IN/status ... 62434?s=20 ---> The INAS 300 raised with the Sea Hawk aircraft went onto fly the Sea Harriers, and today flies the MiG-29K based at INS Hansa, and embarked on the aircraft carriers INS Vikramaditya and INS Vikrant.

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https://twitter.com/bharatrakshak/statu ... 67236?s=20 ---> Refreshing talk on Indian Naval History about the WW2 era cruisers in the 1950s - INS Delhi and INS Mysore. What made these ships legendary and explore their iconic status? @srikantkesnur's talk on youtube

The Legendary Ships of the Indian Navy - Delhi and Mysore

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https://x.com/thisdayin_IN/status/17192 ... 62113?s=20 ---> A Last Hoorah for the IL-38 of the Indian Navy. The last of the serving IL-38 fixed wing submarine hunter of INAS 315 Winged Stallions being decommissioned on 31 Oct 2023 at INS Hansa, Goa. The IL-38s served with utmost distinction and fidelity since 01 October 1977, commissioned by then Commanding Officer, Commander BK Malik, and home based in Goa, ever since- with deployments all across the country and beyond. It is the end of the IL-38 in service of Indian Navy.

https://x.com/zone5aviation/status/1719 ... 92919?s=20 ---> The wind has picked up and is wreaking havoc at the Il-38SD retirement ceremony in Goa — almost as if Mother Nature is rebelling at the thought of losing these charismatic old gals.

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https://x.com/indiannavy/status/1719368 ... 24492?s=20 ---> The IL-38 Sea Dragon Long Range Maritime Patrol aircraft of the Indian Navy bid adieu after 46 years of glorious service to the nation. The decommissioning ceremony was held today at INS Hansa, Dabolim. Admiral R Hari Kumar, Chief of Naval Staff was the Chief Guest.

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https://x.com/zone5aviation/status/1719 ... 97445?s=20 ---> The final crew, squadron personnel, Navy brass, and most importantly, surviving members of the commissioning crew of INAS 315 ‘Winged Stallions’ — all united at INS Hansa in front of IN307.

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https://x.com/captchops/status/1719407074638221665?s=20 ---> Calling it a day for the true Winged Stallions. A testament to the great men and women of INAS315. God bless the stallions!

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VIDEO: https://x.com/zone5aviation/status/1719 ... 39618?s=20 ---> And that’s it, the AI-20Ms wind down for the last time on IN307. The Il-38s of the Indian Navy call time on an incredible, unbroken 46 years of service.

https://x.com/abhilashtomy/status/17193 ... 58135?s=20 ---> The Winged Stallions and Cobras had hangars right next to each other. Whenever I would meet the CO of the Winged Stallions I would tell him, “Sir, I saw an IL take off, but then I realised it was just an illusion.”

I won’t be able to make that joke anymore.

I witnessed their tragedy unfold in 2002 after 40,000 hours of accident free flying. And I witnessed how the squadron’s remaining crew got the squadron back on it’s feet (or wings), upgraded equipment and remained the back bone of the Navy’s long range MR. That is resilience.

Hats off to the Stallions!
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VIDEO: https://x.com/indiannavy/status/1719572 ... 09998?s=20 ---> The Journey Continues...

While flying comes to an end, two IL-38s will remain stationed permanently at National Maritime Heritage Complex, Lothal and at Nipani, Karnataka - inspiring generations to come. A tribute to nearly five decades of service to the Navy and the Nation
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https://x.com/_devildog_rv_/status/1719 ... 55770?s=20 ---> For the first time in India, a full-fledged aircraft simulator will be opened for the general public to enjoy. The Sea Harrier Museum in Vizag will host the system based on the Jump Jet, which was the very original one, used for training the Pilots and Ground Engineers.

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https://x.com/chatterjeea330/status/172 ... 12940?s=20 ---> Last Flight of the Stallion...1977 - 2023.

Remembering those who we lost and are on Eternal Patrol. My Tribute.

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Farewell Winged Stallions IL-38 SD De-induction by Indian Navy, Flypast and Water canon salute

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IL-38’s Retirement Brings An Indian Maritime Patrol Era To An End
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/i ... -to-an-end
09 Nov 2023
The retirement of the Indian Navy’s Il-38SD May brings to an end an illustrious epoch spent operating Soviet-made submarine hunters.
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Chatrapati Shivaji’s Compass For The Indian Navy
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04 Dec 2023

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India is shaking off the colonial hangover. From disbanding cantonments to integrating Maharaj Chatrapati Shivaji's seal in the Naval ensign, India's armed forces are breaking free of the British colonial legacy, while also embracing its roots and celebrating real Indian heroes. Besides Indian Navy, has some Indian army disbanding of colonial hangover, e.g. beating the retreat, music, cantonments. Over 1500 archaic Britshit colonial rules are gone. The government is changing names of the past of islands, roads, buildings, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2dJU1xwc1w
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A nice read. Click on the link below.

https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1733 ... 66970?s=20 ---> The Story of the First Submarine: On Submarine Day: Indian Navy, 08 Dec 1967 (Riga, Latvia, that time part of USSR ) - book: NAVIGATING DANGEROUS WATERS).
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VIDEO: https://x.com/Maverickmusafir/status/17 ... 67757?s=20 ---> On this day during the 1971 war, torpedoed by Pakistani submarine PNS Hangor, INS Khukri sank within minutes, 176 sailors and 18 officers made the supreme sacrifice. Last seen helping his men so they might to live to see another day was Captain Mahendra Nath Mulla who chose to go down with the ship disregarding the option of saving his own life and following the old military tradition where "Captains don't abandon their ships, no matter what". He was decorated with the second highest gallantry award, the Maha Vir Chakra and remains the only Captain in the naval history to go down with his vessel.
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My school cricket captain was amongst those who perished on INS Khukri. My friend was in the other frigate along with Khukri. The Khukri it seems did not have a functioning sonar.
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VKumar wrote: 11 Dec 2023 22:29 My school cricket captain was amongst those who perished on INS Khukri. My friend was in the other frigate along with Khukri. The Khukri it seems did not have a functioning sonar.
There were 2 experimental sonars under development:
1) Lt. Jain's sonar under BARC
2) Dr. Paulraj's sonar under IIT-Delhi I think

Lt. Jain's sonar was installed on the INS Khukri if I recall correctly. The ship had stopped zig-zagging to facilitate a proper sonar read with Lt. Jain as the sonar operator. The experimental sonar didn't work or wasn't good enough to beat the submarine. The ship was torpedoed and Lt. Jain perished as well.

(remember that a submarine can detect surface ships at 5x or 10x the distance that a ship can detect the submarine)

The next day Dr. Paulraj was flown in directly to naval HQ and his sonar was prioritized massively. It eventually turned into the APSOH which is the predecessor of the DRDO sonar family HUMSA /HUMVAAD / HUMSA-NG / Abhay / HMS-X1, etc.

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Paulraj:
The Indo-Pak war began on the 3rd of December. India and Pakistan have had military conflicts earlier, but their Navies never engaged. But this time it was different. One of India’s antisubmarine ships, INS Kukhri (UK-built, Blackwood class), was on submarine hunting patrol and was sunk in a torpedo action by Pakistan Navy submarine PNS Hangor (French-built Daphne class). This happened late evening on December 7th. We lost more than 200 lives, a few of them known to me. Early next morning, the navy came knocking for me at the IIT and flew me to Bombay, the base of the western fleet. The Navy briefed me on INS Kukhri. Apparently Kukhri’s sonar (Model 170B, a UK design) had failed to detect Hangor. Sonar 170B was also widely used in the Indian fleet. I was tasked to see if its performance could be improved. I also learnt that the Navy had indeed been working with a government lab to develop retrofit equipment to improve 170B’s performance. Moreover, this equipment was in use when Kukhri was sunk. I studied the retrofit’s design and concluded that it did not add any performance value and if anything, did the opposite. It likely led to the loss of Kukhri. However, I felt confident that a lot can be done to improve the sonar’s performance. Particularly with better signal processing techniques now possible with integrated circuits (ICs). I also suggested (conveniently, no doubt) that I could do the work at IIT (Delhi) where I had good connections. The Navy agreed readily and I was assigned back to the IIT, this time as the project lead, and Prof. Indiresan was enrolled as the academic supervisor. I collected an R&D team and the IIT helped import the required digital and analog ICs. The team built a new transmitter and a receiver incorporating interesting new techniques but retained 170B’s original transducer and amplifiers. Multiple sea trials followed, and confirmed the dramatically improved range and classification performance. The Navy approved the design for fleet service in early 1973, and the design was transferred to a production agency for volume manufacture. I believe that the 170B work was India’s most advanced signal processing technology achievement at that time.

The success of the 170B project changed the Navy’s perception of the potential of its own technical talent. To this day, the Indian Navy is the most technology-friendly amongst the Indian armed forces. The 170B project was also the first real payback in terms of technology innovation by the vast IIT system for the country. India had invested heavily in these institutes, only to witness entire batches of students leaving for opportunities abroad.

Right, 1975. I came back and immediately lobbied the Navy to support the indigenous development of a world class next gen panoramic fleet sonar. The Navy had planned to import such a sonar and was examining different options. They were skeptical about my ideas despite the success on the 170B sonar. The new project was, no doubt, far bigger. Also, a failure to deliver would have been disastrous for India’s ambitious ship building program. Happily, they finally decided to take a bet on it. I was assigned in 1976 to the DRDO’s Naval Physical and Oceanographic Lab in Cochin, Southern India, to lead this sonar program. Now code named APSOH.

I was full time on APSOH over all those years. I was the Chief Scientist / Engineer and Project Director rolled into one. My job was system design and verification, and program coordination with the other agencies. We worked with a number of partners, some of the major ones were: Bharat Electronics, the production agency for the sonar electronics; Mazagaon Shipyard, the shipboard installation agency, and the Indian Navy for planning and conducting the sea trials. APSOH was a dual transducer sonar, a hull-mounted array, and a second array inside a towed fish (added later). These were cylindrical arrays about 5 ft in diameter and height, with 320 transducer elements. We decided to buy the fish and towing gear from Canada, at least for the first system. Of course, all the semiconductors were imported from the United States.

APSOH was accepted by the Navy for fleet induction following a full year of sea trials on a frontline frigate INS Himgiri. It was a considerable success. Its design remains secret, 40 years later, so I cannot get into details. APSOH was more advanced than anything we saw in the Soviet Union or Europe. We did not have data on US sonars to compare.
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Maritime Aspects of Indian History | Sanjeev Sanyal



0:00 Indian ocean - Coastline
1:34 Bronze age - Sindhu Saraswati civilization
4:04 Ports of ancient India
7:20 India was exporting lot of items but what was it importing?
9:25 Ecological changes with flora and fauna
12:00 Story of a Brahmin Merchant
15:00 Large fleets of ship owned by Merchant guilds
17:10 Voyages being set out on Kartik Purnima
19:45 Building a stitched ship
22:26 Ships using different sails


India has a rich Maritime History owing to its long coastline. India has been a exporter of Cotton and other stuff like spices. The merchantile community of India used stitched ships to sail towards farther coasts.

Indian sailors used cord sewn plank ships because these fared much better on the sea compared to nailed plank ships which tore apart with the pressure of the currents and waves. Plus the nails attract barnacles and even wood borers. This was actually a far superior ship building technique (any damaged planks could be changed easily without damaging the remaining planks) which survived along with the square 'Barcha' sails until the arrival of the Portuguese. After that the wooden ships were constructed with nails and Lateen sails. One such stitched ship is being recreated and will set sail soon.

Lothal was actually a check point whereas Dholavira was the biggest port. India traded goods all over the world. Middle East, Mediterranean were destination of such trade. Meluhans (a sumerian term) were traders from Indus valley. The Indian ships were trading in South East Asia, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam. On a visit to Cambodia a merchant expedition led by Kaundinya were attacked by pirates led by Soma, daughter of the chieftain of the local Nāga clan. Kaundinya fought back and fended off the attackers. Princess Soma was impressed by Kaundinya's bravery and proposed marriage which was accepted. The union led to the foundation of the House that became the royal dynasty of Funan which would rule the region for many generations. The serpent (Nāga) became an important part of Khmer iconography. DNA evidence in Cambodia contains substantial level of South Asian admixture.

Large fleets of ships were owned by merchant guilds, funded by temple banks (which has gold reserves). A Bali Yatra starts after karthik poornima, where wind direction changed by blowing north to south direction. Ships set sail from Odisha coast to Sri Lanka and then using the equatorial currents onwards to Sumatra and Bali, Indonesia. There is enough evidence that Indian traders gave India's culture freely to these lands and the admixture of people happened over time.
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https://x.com/IN_HQENC/status/1763555920141791681?s=20 --->

* The iconic Indian Navy's Tu-142 aircraft has found a new home as a museum at Kakinada, Andhra Padesh. The museum was inaugurated by Smt Vanga Geetha Viswanath, Hon'ble MP of Kakinada, in the esteemed presence of Hon'ble MLAs and senior Naval Officers.

* Nestled on the beach, this museum marks the third of its kind, joining the ranks of #Vizag and #Kolkata.

* Commodore N Sudeep, Cmde (Aviation), ENC, took the gathering down memory lane, sharing the remarkable 30-year journey of the naval aircraft. Stationed initially at INS Hansa, Goa, and later at INS Rajali, Arakkonam, the aircraft played a pivotal role as a Long Range Maritime Reconnaissance Anti-Submarine Warfare asset for the Indian Navy.

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https://x.com/indiannavy/status/1768561 ... 76063?s=20 ---> With profound grief and a heavy heart, we regret to announce the sad demise of Admiral Laxminarayan Ramdas PVSM, AVSM, VrC, VSM (Retd), former Chief of the Naval Staff, age 90 years, on 15 March 2024 at Secundarabad. He was commissioned into the Indian Navy on 01 Sep 1953 and retired on 30 Sept 1993.

During his illustrious career spanning over 40 years, the Admiral held several important appointments such as Commanding Officer of INS Beas during the 1971 Indo-Pak War, Flag Officer Commanding Eastern Fleet, Controller Warship Production and Acquisition, Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff, FOC-in-C (South) and FOC-in-C (East), and rose to the helm as the 13th CNS of the Indian Navy on 01 Dec 1990.

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Rakesh wrote: 04 Mar 2024 20:24 https://x.com/IN_HQENC/status/1763555920141791681?s=20 --->

* The iconic Indian Navy's Tu-142 aircraft has found a new home as a museum at Kakinada, Andhra Padesh. The museum was inaugurated by Smt Vanga Geetha Viswanath, Hon'ble MP of Kakinada, in the esteemed presence of Hon'ble MLAs and senior Naval Officers.

* Nestled on the beach, this museum marks the third of its kind, joining the ranks of #Vizag and #Kolkata.

* Commodore N Sudeep, Cmde (Aviation), ENC, took the gathering down memory lane, sharing the remarkable 30-year journey of the naval aircraft. Stationed initially at INS Hansa, Goa, and later at INS Rajali, Arakkonam, the aircraft played a pivotal role as a Long Range Maritime Reconnaissance Anti-Submarine Warfare asset for the Indian Navy.
https://x.com/NewsIADN/status/1768892488595677553?s=20 ---> Aerial view of Indian Navy's now retired Tu-142 maritime plane, Sea Harrier and Kalvari Class submarine, at a beach in Visakhapatnam.

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Rakesh wrote: 15 Mar 2024 20:08 https://x.com/indiannavy/status/1768561 ... 76063?s=20 ---> With profound grief and a heavy heart, we regret to announce the sad demise of Admiral Laxminarayan Ramdas PVSM, AVSM, VrC, VSM (Retd), former Chief of the Naval Staff, age 90 years, on 15 March 2024 at Secundarabad. He was commissioned into the Indian Navy on 01 Sep 1953 and retired on 30 Sept 1993.

During his illustrious career spanning over 40 years, the Admiral held several important appointments such as Commanding Officer of INS Beas during the 1971 Indo-Pak War, Flag Officer Commanding Eastern Fleet, Controller Warship Production and Acquisition, Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff, FOC-in-C (South) and FOC-in-C (East), and rose to the helm as the 13th CNS of the Indian Navy on 01 Dec 1990.
https://x.com/arunp2810/status/1770071348750188790?s=20 --> Last word on the late Admiral L Ramdas:

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https://x.com/indiannavy/status/1782989248859185204 ---> Remembering the enduring Legacy of Operation Trident. The Title Launch of the Movie "Operation Trident", was held at the Nausena Bhavan, New Delhi, in the presence of Admiral R Hari Kumar, CNS. Based on the Indian Navy's daring attack during the 1971 Indo Pak War, the saga of the historic triumph will inspire generations to come.

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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/India/mo ... e94f&ei=39

Morarji Desai’s amazing jackstay tryst with Indian Navy

the article is about the crossing of the late PM Sh. Morarji Desai by Jackstays from one naval ship to another
The Second Time First

Interestingly, it is Desai’s second jackstay crossing that is more known and, as I shall show subsequently, was considered the first. This could, possibly, be because it has been more written about, including by the venerable late VAdm MP Awati in a navy inhouse publication ‘Quarterdeck’ and in the Western Fleet history “A Salute to the Sword Arm” (Thomson Press, 2007). So let me mention that first and quote the inimitable Awati who was the Fleet Commander of the Western Fleet when this happened.

In Awati’s words “Shri Morarji Desai, Prime Minister, boarded INS Shakti by helicopter, off Cochin one fine morning in February 1979. Captain SK (Gigi) Gupta, was in command. I had, earlier, transferred my flag to Shakti. Everyone aboard was impressed by the physical fitness and agility of the PM, no mean feat at 83. He was immaculately turned out in white khaddar kurta pyjama topped by a dark Nehru jacket with the inevitable white Gandhi cap on his head. He held himself erect, and spoke Hindi and flawless English with equal facility in a measured tone, as if he had chosen every word with great care. Quite a man, I thought. He walked around the ship, visited the engine room, spoke to as many officers and sailors he could, impressed them with his knowledge of the role of the ship and of the navy. This obviously was no ordinary Prime Minister.”


Awati continues, “In the afternoon, the PM readily accepted my offer for transfer by jackstay to the escorting ship, ignoring the restraint counselled by his personal escort from Delhi. ‘Admiral, he said to me’ these spoil sports around me, are always looking for an opportunity to restrain me from participating fully in my visits. I know fully well that you would not have asked me to, if you had the least doubt about my safety’. He winked at his escort. Aplomb, I thought to myself, a seasoned politician and a leader!”

The description by Awati continues: “The crew on both ships was charged-up to see a spirited octogenarian PM ready for the evolution. He was tickled when a heavy bag of cement was heaved across the jackstay as a pilot, preceding his journey across. The moment came the Prime Minister of India was ceremoniously transferred by jackstay to the escorting frigate INS Dunagiri, as he was piped over the side by Shakti, and received by Dunagiri. He was returned to Shakti by the same route, expressed praise for the manner in which the evolution was conducted.”

Adding his own impressions, Awati writes, “I was personally very sure he would enjoy the experience, the view below him as his Bosun's chair was pulled over the ‘oggin’ (naval term for sea) from one ship to the other. It was a happy occasion, an evolution conducted with seamanlike precision. Nevertheless, there was that nagging anxiety until the old gentleman was safely delivered back to the flagship by the replenishment teams of the two ships. A loud cheer went up spontaneously as the PM waved back to the escort on his return to Shakti. Not every Fleet Commander has the opportunity to send his Prime Minister across the waters from ship to ship on a jackstay, I thought to myself.”
and the first time
">All along, naval history enthusiasts had heard of the above-mentioned episode of INS Shakti and marvelled about Morarji Desai’s fitness and derring-do. In fact, we were so certain of this being the only instance of a Prime Minister crossing by jackstay that we included this in the afore-mentioned Western Fleet history book that was edited by this author. But, a couple of years ago, while researching on some other topic, I was flummoxed to find out that Desai, as PM, had crossed by jackstay even earlier.

Going through certain papers of Adm Jal Cursetji, the Chief of Naval Staff from 1976 to 1979, I found him mentioning a visit by Morarji Desai to Mumbai. Cursetji says “The Navy was host to Sri Morarji Desai, Prime Minister of India on 30 October 1977 who was embarked onboard Dunagiri. The ‘Day at Sea’ was very well attended. The distinguished VVIPs included 6 Governors, 4 Cabinet Ministers, 2 Ministers of State, 2 Chief Ministers, 19 Members of Parliament in addition to the Air Chief and other VIPs. 12 ships and 4 Air Squadrons participated in the exercises to show the guests how their Navy works. To the numerous exercises that had been planned, the Navy had to add at short notice — the Prime Minister's desire to be transferred by jackstay to and from Vikrant — much to the anxiety of the Chief of Naval Staff — lest the chair to be used should give way!”

This was news indeed. Apart from the jackstay, such a huge contingent of distinguished visitors embarking should have been mentioned somewhere in naval archives. It struck me then that this visit had made a big splash in the media at that time because as a seventh standard kid in school, I remembered reading about this in the newspapers in small town Bijapur (North Karnataka). But, now, my initial research led to dead ends.

The Navy’s official history for the period 1975 to 1990, ‘Transition to Eminence’ doesn’t mention this visit. Incidentally, it doesn’t mention the other visit of 1979 too. While I had no reason to doubt what Cursetji had said, I still needed some more sources to authenticate and be sure. Cursetji and the then CO of Vikrant (Capt, later Admiral, RH Tahiliani) are no longer with us. Dunagiri and Vikrant are decommissioned. After poring over material, I was lucky in my research when I found that Vikrant’s decommissioning diary had an entry on the visit of PM Morarji Desai on October 30, 1977. This was very good progress but it didn’t specifically mention jackstay.

However, Dunagiri which was a brand-new ship in October 1977, having been commissioned just a few months before, could offer more clues. Especially the officers who served there. And that is when I hit pay dirt. Cdr Arun Saigal (Retd), a veteran with an amazing memory, revealed that he was very much on board the Dunagiri at that time as the Signal Communications Officer (SCO). He had written a small account of that.

In his words, “Morarji Desai had assumed office as Prime Minister of India in early 1977. The Navy invited him to spend a Day at Sea. After much deliberation it was decided that Dunagiri, being the latest ship to join the Fleet would be the ship to host the Prime Minister and other VIPs during a sea sortie where the Western Fleet would show off its prowess. It was a great honour and we began to plan in earnest.”

He continues, “Dunagiri was flying the flag of CNS and as SCO I had the additional responsibility of conveying CNS messages to the Fleet Commander so I used to occasionally run to the Helicopter Deck where the VIPs were seated to convey information or receive instructions. At one stage the commencement of the Replenishment-at-Sea (RAS) demonstration serial had to be delayed a bit because the Prime Minister, despite his age had decided to visit the Engine Room to see for himself. As he came up the Fox’le hatch he saw the preparations for the Jackstay and decided to stay there. The Captain (Capt, later VAdm, Sukhmal Jain) told me to rush down and see what was happening and to help escort the PM back to the VIP viewing area on the Helicopter Deck.”

This is where the fun begins. In Saigal’s words, they are even more dramatic. “After seeing the first transfer of a sailor by jackstay from Dunagiri to Nilgiri, Prime Minister Morarji Desai expressed a desire to go across himself. The Executive Officer was not willing to permit it. He requested the Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Moolgavkar to convince the Prime Minister that it was too dangerous to do so. I heard the latter part of the conversation which went like this: ‘Bahut strong grip chahiye hoga’ (a very strong grip would be required to hold on to the upper part of the jackstay stirrup attached to the traveller). Mr Morarji Desai turned towards the Air Chief with a stern look and stretched out his hand: ‘Aaa Panja Lada Ley’ meaning that he was ready to wrestle with him to show the strength of his grip. There was nothing more to be said! However, the Chief Boatswain’s Mate had foreseen some odd eventuality like this and had secreted a modified Godrej steel chair inside the gun turret. It had four steel slings to enable it to be hooked on and slung from the Traveller Block to enable a person to be transferred seated during jackstay. It was quickly brought out and the PM strapped on to it and he went across from Dunagiri to Nilgiri by jackstay with the ships steaming at about 14 knots (a little more than 25 kmph) about 75 ft apart. Our hearts were in our mouth until he safely reached across. He had made history. The date was 30 Oct 1977.”
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