India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

[SRajesh]

With this Turd allegations!!
Me thinks its a part of the wider BIFs ploy
They have realised that despite Shir Pappuji various avatars including the Bharat jodo baba he is a pappu.
With all there prep school coaching/Thailand relaxation/Choreographed Foreign tours he is no match to NaMo.
Hence they have had to recall Mama Mia from semi-retirement.
All this Adani/Pegasus/yada yada that they manufactured for Pappu had fallen dud
With the 5 day special session they were not sure what to expect??
Furthermore G20(not withstanding Xi's absence ) has been a resounding success
There usual rent-boy munna Pak is such dole drums and shell shocked from Balakot they expect anytbing more from them.
And the announcement of new Spice Route Trade Corridor has upset all (Chin and those who were backing them for quick bucks)
This may be:
a. To start another so called credible evidence against present Indian dispensation
b. A message not to announce any snap elections or else more will come out (of the usual Monsoon detritus kind)
Lastly can I ask a question(I know its not the right thread)
Can the Cabinet recommend the President to dissolve the Lok Sabha (meaning does the parliament have to be in session to dissolve it??) after this special session

[yensoy]

The reasoning in that video sanman posted is because the downside is so high, Trudeau must be very confident in the evidence he has. But he is never going to share that evidence. The proof that India is involved in Nijjar's murder is that Trudeau spoke out.

You are assuming Trudeau did the thinking. He didn't. He did what he was told to do.

Next you will see RCMP parading a couple of druggies who confessed to the murder for hire saying they were paid by Mr Rai. How hard is it to line up someone to serve a 5 year soft jail term and be out with a Canadian passport?

[nits]

Gangster wanted in Punjab shot dead in Canada’s Winnipeg

Sukhdool Singh Gill alias Sukha Duneke, an alleged ally of the Bambiha gang, was shot dead in Canada’s Winnipeg by unidentified assailants Wednesday. Duneke was wanted in Punjab in cases of extortion, attempt to murder and murder.

According to Punjab police officials, Duneke had fled to Canada in 2017, and had since been running an extortion racket. His name also figured in a list of forty persons released by the NIA on Tuesday for allegedly being involved in terror-related activities.

[srin]

It has become an urgent need for us to ensure that Khalistan is Canada's headache rather than ours. We need to express support for Khalistan being carved out of Canada (maybe BC, since that seems to be epicenter). Let all the UK and AU khalistanis accumulate there and let's see the fun.
This is not usually done because you don't want to shaft a non-adversary (hard to call it "friendly") nation, but those times are gone.

[Cyrano]

Here you go

[A_Gupta]

^^^^ Per Retd. Major Gaurav Arya one of the people India wants extradited is a superintendent or something like that in the Canadian border security organization. It is very plausible that Khalistanis sit in the Canadian police and intelligence agencies. Such folks might be putting "evidence" into the Nijjar investigation, and also "you will see RCMP parading a couple of druggies who confessed to the murder for hire saying they were paid by Mr Rai" may happen.

Just FYI, if we go by English definitions:

1. An allegation is an assertion of wrong-doing without any proof.
2. A credible allegation "is not the same as a proven fact; it simply means that there is a reasonable basis for taking the allegation seriously and conducting further inquiry or investigation to establish the truth".

[chetak]

meanwhile, this is gathering steam on the net

rumors say that the plane was really loaded up on the choicest afghan agricultural produce for the entire cabinet.

[A_Gupta]

^^^^ Haha, all we need are credible allegations of a potential link of Trudeau’s plane and narcotics.

[nits]

If and Big If - if this is true its a bargain chip so it will never come out in public

[Rupesh]

Visa services temporarily suspended for Canadians.

. TIMES OF INDIA: NEW DELHI: Amid an ongoing diplomatic row over the kilLing of Khalistani-linked terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, India has reportedly suspended its visa services to Canada till further notice.

[chetak]

NIA releases pictures of 43 anti-Indian gangsters & terrorists whom Canada is giving refuge.

It is clear that New Delhi will go all out against the canucks.



https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/a ... 2023-09-20

The National Investigation Agency (NIA) has launched a crackdown on terrorist-gangsters network. The anti-terror probe agency has released the photographs of 43 notorious accused individuals, some of them based in Canada.

These individuals, alleged to be involved in a wide array of criminal activities, are suspected of having links to terrorist organizations. The NIA has released photographs of some of the accused

[yensoy]

This is probably a dumb question - if India felt the need to assassinate someone in an ostensibly friendly western democracy, would Nijjar be the most-valued target, or is there anyone else?

Why are we even entertaining this kind of thought process? India doesn't sanction assasinations. Period. I am a little disappointed with you Sir @A_Gupta.

I think it is a very pertinent question. Of course GoI didn't do this. But the fact is that this fellow is just one among a thousand low value low life jokers. Intent is important here and GoI has bigger fish to fry.

We are also making a mistake by talking about "Separatists". Separatism is not illegal in Canada. For that matter I am sure I can say that I want a Dravida Nadu in India and while I may be ridiculed and even hauled up by police, the matter will quickly get thrown out in court. Sedition law is out in IPC's replacement.

These fellows in Canada are violent gang members who have committed terrorist acts in India and overseas and we are missing that as the central feature of our narrative.

We need to emphasize that these violent criminals are also religious bigots.

The subtext should also be that these violent individuals don't need GoI's involvement to eliminate each other because that is exactly what they do.

Also, to clearly draw the line and saying that Canadian citizens' involvement in Indian constitutional matters is unwarranted regardless of their ethnicity or origin. They have ceased to be Indian citizens and no longer have the right to meddle in Indian affairs. Their opinions which they are of course free to keep and air have no value or consequence to India.

Finally to refer back to RCMP's ineptitude in persecuting the Kanishka bombers, and Trudeau Sr's negligence that led to this event.

[yensoy]

Gangster wanted in Punjab shot dead in Canada’s Winnipeg

Sukhdool Singh Gill alias Sukha Duneke, an alleged ally of the Bambiha gang, was shot dead in Canada’s Winnipeg by unidentified assailants Wednesday. Duneke was wanted in Punjab in cases of extortion, attempt to murder and murder.

According to Punjab police officials, Duneke had fled to Canada in 2017, and had since been running an extortion racket. His name also figured in a list of forty persons released by the NIA on Tuesday for allegedly being involved in terror-related activities.

You can't make it up! NIA must have found his address and released it widely so his enemies would do their thing. Viva free speech

[drnayar]

To be honest guys; I think Trudeau just handed a big stick to NaMo to beat him up.

[nits]

Visa services temporarily suspended for Canadians.

. TIMES OF INDIA: NEW DELHI: Amid an ongoing diplomatic row over the kilLing of Khalistani-linked terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, India has reportedly suspended its visa services to Canada till further notice.

This gets intresting now... how will "west" respond

[drnayar]

You can't make it up! NIA must have found his address and released it widely so his enemies would do their thing. Viva free speech

[sajo]

India Suspends visa to Canadians.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 91842.html

Not sure how much it affects the "Friendly" diaspora. Would they lean on the government enough to attempt a reconciliation ?

Also , Cananda would likely reciprocate in a few hours.

[drnayar]

India Suspends visa to Canadians.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 91842.html

Not sure how much it affects the "Friendly" diaspora. Would they lean on the government enough to attempt a reconciliation ?

Also , Cananda would likely reciprocate in a few hours.

That's the idea. No more students to Kanada. Last checked Indians were second largest number of overseas students.

[Dumal]

India Suspends visa to Canadians.

Also , Cananda would likely reciprocate in a few hours.

That may be what we wanted to happen. And to induce that, we may have had to suspend our services first!

I wonder if the visa season for the incoming fall season is already almost over. Otherwise, that would have been a big mess for the Canadians.

[disha]

That's the idea. No more students to Kanada. Last checked Indians were second largest number of overseas students.

~250k or rather 2,50,000 Indian students in Canada.

[chetak]

[chetak]

That's the idea. No more students to Kanada. Last checked Indians were second largest number of overseas students.

~250k or rather 2,50,000 Indian students in Canada.

disha ji,


there is some sort of kaneda education mela in bangalore in a few days time

one would be very interested to see how that goes

[Lisa]

India Suspends visa to Canadians.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 91842.html

Not sure how much it affects the "Friendly" diaspora. Would they lean on the government enough to attempt a reconciliation ?

Also , Cananda would likely reciprocate in a few hours.

Necessary people have OCI cards

[sajo]

That's the idea. No more students to Kanada. Last checked Indians were second largest number of overseas students.

~250k or rather 2,50,000 Indian students in Canada.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/555 ... nd-canada/

It seems the number is higher at 3,19,000 from India. More than 3 times that of the next highest country at Cheen. Bakis dont seem to find Canadian Madarasas lucrative enough to make up top-10 numbers it seems.

[williams]

To be honest guys; I think Trudeau just handed a big stick to NaMo to beat him up.

Yep, he is going to understand what happens if India punches according to its weight

[williams]

India Suspends visa to Canadians.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 91842.html

Not sure how much it affects the "Friendly" diaspora. Would they lean on the government enough to attempt a reconciliation ?

Also , Cananda would likely reciprocate in a few hours.

Necessary people have OCI cards

It is a bit inconvenient, but they are going to make a huge noise.

[Cyrano]

This could babe true. IIRC, from various news reports over the past few days:

- Turdeau lands in his official plane in New Delhi and deplanes
- Then plane is towed to a secure zone like they do for all visiting dignitaries
- Our security forces protecting this plane do a routine check with sniffer dogs that are trained to detect explosives, narcotics etc.
- Our K9s go into a tizzy and a damning discovery is made
- Turdeau's bilateral with Modi ji happens, and

<conjecture>
Modi takes him up on continued state support to Klanistani separatists terrorists. Turdeau counter attacks and brings up Nijjar's murder and makes "credible allegations of suspected links". Modi smiles and says in his place, he'd be worried about getting back home given the incredible discoveries of confirmed substances found on his govt plane.
</conjecture>

- Trudeau emerges shaken and goes to the presser.



Among the questions, a well "placed" lady reporter with a Canadian accent asks "on the issue of foreign ELECTION interference what message did you deliver to PM Modi?" (What the hell is that when there are no elections in CA for another 2+ years?!) Turdeau swallows his saliva one more time - clear sign of someone who is having sphincter trouble and mumbles some fecal-oral response. The same well placed lady reporter gets it and thankfully switches to climate change. Trudeau mumbles an empty answer and then switches to French to mumble some more. The next question about "...pulling your hand away..." is unfortunately inaudible. Its clear he didn't like that one. He somehow gets through the rest of the presser - all the 7 torturous minutes of it.

Then he skips president Murmu's dinner - no explanation and remains holed up in his hotel.

The departure time arrives but we are told the plane has a "technical issue" that needs to be sorted out before it can fly.

A technical issue could also be impounding for narco trafficking. Replacement military plane a C130 Polaris IIRC is unexplainedly diverted to London, never arrives.

<conjecture>
By this time Turdeau is begging, pleading and threatening Modi to let him and his plane go. But cant make headway. The mil plane is diverted because if it lands and doesnt take off in a couple of hours with Turdeau on board, that will raise even more questions. It could also be because India could have denied landing to a military plane if cant be thoroughly security checked nose to tail. Turdeau & Co cannot be sure that plane is totally clean therefore cant take a risk of a second place getting impounded. A mil asset impounded can be construed as an act of war and will lead to a whole different bunch of problems. So he gives up on that and remains holed in, with NSG protection for his own good.

Finally the matter is resolved i.e. Modi lets go of the marbles he's been squeezing for over 2 days (I think the 5 eyes would have stepped in to save one of their woke sorry own as well, most likely its the Aussie PM) and then another plane guaranteed halal comes in and takes the sorry bunch of losers suffering withdrawal symptoms home.
</conjecture>

Once home, the "two faced" Turdeau smarting from the ignominy and the laughing stock he has become in his G7 peer group viciously counter attacks, (precisely because he knows Modi can be trusted to keep his word, plus he can deny it all from home territory) and is now going the Shishupala way.

[Lisa]

Williamsji,

I wrote this earlier,

You need to hurt them where it hurts. Most Indians have an OCI. There is no canadian equivalent, they have to issue visas. We need to close all their consulates in India and expel their staff, particularly the one in Chandigarh. It costs us nothing except the saving we make by withdrawing our consular staff from Canada. Their high commissions staffs life in Delhi will change irrevocably.

By my measure, Indian policy is half way there. Close the consulates, one at a time. Give Turd 90 days to publish the details of his accusation, which he can't, and then penalise him. Shut one consulate. Repeat.

[drnayar]

Williamsji,

I wrote this earlier,

You need to hurt them where it hurts. Most Indians have an OCI. There is no canadian equivalent, they have to issue visas. We need to close all their consulates in India and expel their staff, particularly the one in Chandigarh. It costs us nothing except the saving we make by withdrawing our consular staff from Canada. Their high commissions staffs life in Delhi will change irrevocably.

By my measure, Indian policy is half way there. Close the consulates, one at a time. Give Turd 90 days to publish the details of his accusation, which he can't, and then penalise him. Shut one consulate. Repeat.

they have already given us a good reason to close the consulates !!
but seriously we cant just because there is a sizeable Indian diaspora still there !!.. there might be reason to airlift them back to India if things escalate !!.. oh the irony of it all ..airlift from "first world developed country"

[S_Madhukar]

One would expect such disturbances to start from CAN and NZ as they are the weakest kids of the kingdom. Expect more crybabies hoping to get some lollipop from Big Papa as they think too much has been handed to Indians that too before Christmas. Don’t be surprised if some of this spilled over to UKstan and Oz even though they are more mature.

India should slowly discourage education to CAN as it also offers lot of Micky Mouse degrees like UKstan which are only good for sucking $$. But do that with a smile and deflate the moose .
I don’t think Kstanis and the likes are a worthy return for that investment.

[yensoy]

Most "students" don't care for the degree - the tuition fee is an entry ticket to the country. The country needs people desperately because they don't make babies and among the remaining those who can prefer to move out to the warmer and richer country to the south. Quality control has gone for a toss because of liberal policies and K infiltration. Otherwise they would be bringing over qualified home construction workers from East Europe to fix their housing crisis, instead of handing out visas like candy to gangsters.

...

I am waiting for SJ to say "Five eyes looks to you like a group of five English speaking countries, to the rest of us it looks like white colonial powers who happen to speak the same language".

[disha]

Not sure how much it affects the "Friendly" diaspora. Would they lean on the government enough to attempt a reconciliation ?

Why the quotes Sajo'ji? What are you alluding?

Let me say a couple of things about the "diaspora", they work hard and lean on the government of the day. And are thousand times better than the RNIs who call themselves Leader-of-opposition and do not turn up even for Independence day celebration.

Problem with Turd-doo is that he wants to save his seat at all costs. Since he knows the day his PM'ship will be over, he will be finished. His wife already left him and he is under cloud for being a cheeni towel. This turd-doo is clutching at straws and hence he is throwing everything including the kitchen sink.

When Turd-doo or someone wants to hang themselves, just give them a very long rope. They will first tie themselves in knots and then hang themselves. That is what Turd-doo is doing. What will Turd-doo do now? Ban entry of Indian students going to Canada? Currently ~300k students are there. That is a big source of revenue to Kanucks. Then there is the dependency on Cheen that they somehow need to shrug off. Their economy is in shambles. Interest rates are rising. What will Turd-doo do? Create distractions.

Let him have a long rope.

PS: Edited some sentences out and correction on the student number. Thanks Sajo'ji on that.

[VickyAvinash]

Regarding students in kaneda, most punjabi students go there to circumvent the path to citizenship. 90% of them start working to recover the money spent and then become underground before study period is over. Then they apply for visa basis million lies, biggest being threat to life in India on religious grounds. Simranjit Singh Mann, admitted in the past that he wrote political asylum recommendations to 20000 plus students at charge of 15K per person. Such is the craze to live in that country among punjabi youth. No matter what you do, migration is inevitable and you will find more than willing youth ready to do whatever to get a chance to migrate.

[Cyrano]

More revelations:
Canadian PM Justin Trudeau sparked drama at Delhi hotel by refusing Presidential suite leading to a security stand off:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 819894.cms

Daal mean kala hi kala hai !

[madhu]

Visa to India by indian embassy in Canada is back. It's a technical glitch...

[sajo]

Not sure how much it affects the "Friendly" diaspora. Would they lean on the government enough to attempt a reconciliation ?

Why the quotes Sajo'ji? What are you alluding?

Let me say a couple of things about the "diaspora", they work hard and lean on the government of the day. And are thousand times better than the RNIs who call themselves Leader-of-opposition and do not turn up even for Independence day celebration.

Humble Pranams, Disha-ji. I actually was trying to allude to the dharmic fold diaspora onlee. Hindus and Sikhs who do not harbour a separatist agenda. Didnt mean to imply anything else.
I am not sure what to make of the retraction of the VISA Suspension notice. Did we buckle or accidentally reveal our cards beforehand ?

[SRajesh]

Cyranoji
A question : Grade-A maal for group use during stay in India or ?? for whom
Or is it Damaka type material intended for secessionist??
I mean who in the right frame of mind(NSA equivalent in Kaneda) advice this fellow to carry in official plane.
The stuff I heard is that the pilot error smashing the nose cone of the plane through the hangar wall!! Whether he was high dont know

[Cyrano]

Rajesh ji,

https://www.alberta.ca/cannabis-legaliz ... 0household

The Government of Canada legalized, regulated and restricted access to cannabis on October 17, 2018.
Under federal legislation:
adults can possess up to 30 grams of legally-produced cannabis
adults can grow up to four cannabis plants per household
the minimum age for purchase and use is 18 years of age, but provinces can increase the age limit
licensed production of cannabis is controlled by the federal government
distribution and sale of cannabis is controlled by the provincial government
new provisions to address drug- and alcohol-impaired driving have been established

Kya karen bhai, aadmi ho ya aurat ho ya inke beech ho ya inke parey ho ya jo bhi jeev-jantu ho, aadat se majboor hota hai.

Diplomatic immunity shouldn't be confused with protection from insult and ignominy.

[a_bharat]

Visa to India by indian embassy in Canada is back. It's a technical glitch...

Just checked the BLS website. It still shows the suspension notice.

[g.sarkar]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-66851964
India suspends visas for Canadians as row escalates
Meryl Sebastian, BBC News, Cochin. 21/9/2023
India has suspended visa services for Canadian citizens amid an escalating row over the killing of a Sikh separatist on Canadian soil.
Visa service provider BLS posted a message from India's mission blaming "operational reasons" for the decision.
Tensions flared this week after Canada said it was investigating "credible allegations" linking India with the murder of the separatist leader.
India angrily rejected the allegation calling it "absurd".
Analysts say relations between the countries, which have been strained for months, are now at an all-time low.
The message about the suspension of visas was first posted on the BLS website on Thursday.
"Important notice from Indian Mission: Due to operational reasons, with effect from 21 September 2023, Indian visa services have been suspended till further notice," it read.
India's foreign ministry refused to comment on the matter and asked the BBC to refer to the BLS website.
The move comes a day after India issued an advisory urging its citizens travelling to or living in Canada to "exercise utmost caution" in view of the "growing anti-India activities and politically-condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada".
Delhi said that some recent threats were directed at its diplomats and some Indians "who oppose the anti-India agenda".
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Monday that intelligence agencies were investigating whether "agents of the government of India" were involved in the killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Canadian citizen - India had designated him a terrorist in 2020.
Nijjar was shot dead in his vehicle by two masked gunmen outside a Sikh temple on 18 June in British Columbia.
"Any involvement of a foreign government in the killing of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty," Mr Trudeau told the Canadian parliament on Monday.
India reacted strongly, saying that Canada was trying to "shift the focus from Khalistani terrorists and extremists" who had been given shelter there.
.....
Gautam
As a sovereign nation, India may grant visa to any one or may deny without giving any reason. All nations use this power and no one can object.
Indian visa for Canadian citizens is temporarily closed, please see: www.blsindia-canada.com