Indian Navy News & Discussion - 12 April 2021

[andy B]

Chetak saar, might have found the image here....damn img link isn't working though

https://twitter.com/battle_machines/sta ... 8072255694

[chetak]

Chetak saar, might have found the image here....damn img link isn't working though

https://twitter.com/battle_machines/sta ... 8072255694

here you go, andy saab.

[titash]

Chetak saar, might have found the image here....damn img link isn't working though

https://twitter.com/battle_machines/sta ... 8072255694

here you go, andy saab.

Nice Pic Chetak-ji

there seem to be differences between the ships on the left and the right.

the one on the left appears to have the 2-sided Top-Plate radar, similar to the Talwar class, in addition to the Lanza.

The one on the right appears to have the 1-sided Half-Plate radar, seen in the older pics of Delhi/Mysore/Mumbai

[SNaik]

Nice Pic Chetak-ji

there seem to be differences between the ships on the left and the right.

the one on the left appears to have the 2-sided Top-Plate radar, similar to the Talwar class, in addition to the Lanza.

The one on the right appears to have the 1-sided Half-Plate radar, seen in the older pics of Delhi/Mysore/Mumbai

INS Delhi on the right, she didn't get the Fregat M2M upgrade like Mysore and Mumbai. So on the left could be either Mysore or Mumbai, although some accounts have pointed at Mysore as the first ship with Lanza-N.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1763976155462533250?s=20 ---> Official insignia of Indian Navy Base, INS Jatayu at Lakshadweep Islands that will be inaugurated next week by Navy Chief, Admiral R Hari Kumar.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/delhidefence/status/17638 ... 30077?s=20 ---> Indian Navy will commission Naval Detachment Minicoy as INS Jatayu in the presence of Admiral R Hari Kumar, Chief of the Naval Staff, on 06 March 2024. Minicoy is the southern most island of Lakshadweep which straddles vital Sea Lines of Communications (SLOCs).

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/NewsIADN/status/1764705828387643849?s=20 ---> Defence Minister Rajnath Singh to inaugurate the Phase II-A of Project Seabird at INS Kadamba (Karwar) tomorrow on March 05th. The Karwar Naval Base can now accommodate up to 32 warships and submarines.

[VKumar]

Bunched up like at Pearl Harbour

[sanjaykumar]

Things are not comparable.

Space and radar as well as sosus surveillance. Also long range missiles. And long range air interdiction.

[Pratyush]

Bunched up like at Pearl Harbour

Most large navies ships this way only.

[prashantsharma]

This looks like an old pic of Karwar. 6 more piers/ jetties have been built or are close to completion.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/delhidefence/status/17638 ... 30077?s=20 ---> Indian Navy will commission Naval Detachment Minicoy as INS Jatayu in the presence of Admiral R Hari Kumar, Chief of the Naval Staff, on 06 March 2024. Minicoy is the southern most island of Lakshadweep which straddles vital Sea Lines of Communications (SLOCs).

VIDEO: https://x.com/indiannavy/status/1765341 ... 73807?s=20 ---> Indian Navy commissions INS Jatayu at Minicoy, the southernmost island of Lakshadweep. Another step towards Navy’s efforts to incrementally augment security infrastructure at the strategically important islands.

[Rakesh]

This looks like an old pic of Karwar. 6 more piers/ jetties have been built or are close to completion.

Check out this video published by the Indian Navy today...

VIDEO: https://x.com/IndiannavyMedia/status/17 ... 94399?s=20 ---> Project Seabird, Karwar. Honorable Raksha Mantri Rajnath Singh inaugurated two crucial piers on 05 March 2024. Construction of Aircraft Carrier and Auxilliary Vessels piers has played a vital role in nation building efforts; catalyzing economic growth, generating employment and supporting local industries. The ability to simultaneously berth two aircraft carriers significantly boosts the Indian Navy's maritime capability.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/delhidefence/status/17638 ... 30077?s=20 ---> Indian Navy will commission Naval Detachment Minicoy as INS Jatayu in the presence of Admiral R Hari Kumar, Chief of the Naval Staff, on 06 March 2024. Minicoy is the southern most island of Lakshadweep which straddles vital Sea Lines of Communications (SLOCs).

Why INS Jatayu Is Strategically Important For India
https://stratnewsglobal.com/india/why-i ... for-india/
06 March 2024

[Rakesh]

INS Jatayu: Indian Navy commissions new naval base at Minicoy island in Lakshadweep

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1765381476118638740?s=20 ---> The Jatayu, at the INS Jatayu Naval Base, Minicoy, Lakshadweep.

[drnayar]

https://www.defensenews.com/industry ... ays/

For more than a decade Leonardo has searched on and off for a buyer or partner for its torpedo unit known as WASS. The company’s primary focus is aircraft, helicopters and high-tech electronics.

[VinodTK]

X-Post

INS Jatayu strengthens India's maritime security in Lakshadweep: Navy chief

NEW DELHI: Chief of Naval Staff, R Hari Kumar, highlighted the significance of the recently commissioned INS Jatayu at Minocoy Island, stating that it reinforces the nation's commitment to safeguarding its maritime interests in the strategic Lakshadweep region.

The commissioning ceremony marked a pivotal milestone in India's naval capabilities, with INS Jatayu poised to play a crucial role in enhancing maritime domain awareness and bolstering the Indian Navy's sustenance and surveillance capabilities in the region.

Kumar underscored the strategic importance of Lakshadweep, saying, "The commissioning of INS Jatayu at Minicoy holds immense significance for our nation's maritime security and underscores the strategic significance of Lakshadweep."

"The Naval Base will serve as a vanguard, providing crucial maritime domain awareness while enhancing the Indian Navy's sustenance & surveillance in the region," he added.

The Indian Navy on Wednesday commissioned its second naval base, INS Jatayu, at Minicoy Island in Lakshadweep to strengthen its foothold in the region, the Indian Navy said in an official statement.

The INS Jatayu was commissioned in the presence of Adm R Hari Kumar, the Chief of Naval Staff, Administrator of Lakshadweep, Praful K Patel, V Adm V Srinivas, Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Southern Naval Command.

According to the statement, "This milestone event strengthens the Indian Navy's foothold in the Lakshadweep island while extending capacity building, operational reach and sustenance in the region. The establishment of the Naval Base at Minicoy will augment connectivity with the mainland, focusing on the comprehensive development of the islands."

The INS Jatayu will be functioning under the operational control of the Naval Officer in Charge (Lakshadweep), Southern Naval Command.

On the occasion, the Chief of Naval Staff was presented with a 50-man Guard of Honour and Commander Vrat Baghel, the first commanding officer of the unit, recited the invocation in Sanskrit, followed by the reading of the commissioning warrant.

After the unveiling of the commissioning plaque, the Naval Ensign was hoisted to the tune of the National Anthem. With the last note of the National Anthem, the commissioning pennant was broken on the mast.

The commissioning ceremony was attended by Vice Admiral Sanjay J Singh, Flag Officer Commanding in Chief, Western Naval Command, senior Naval officers and distinguished guests.

On completion of the commissioning ceremony, the Maritime Operations Center at Minicoy was inaugurated and the Chief of the Naval Staff, interacted with the officers and men of the unit and commended them on this momentous occasion.

INS Jatayu will play a significant role in the Indian Navy's operational surveillance while embracing the vision of SAGAR (Security and Growth for All in the Region).

[VinodTK]

Navy commanders explore ways to boost combat prowess in strategically-located island territories


BACKED BY BRAHMOS, THE NAVY’S MINICOY BASE TO KEEP WATCH OVER THE ARABIAN SEA

The Indian Navy is significantly enhancing its capabilities with the establishment of INS Jatayu on Minicoy Island in Lakshadweep. This new base will feature advanced radar systems, jetties, an airfield, and coastal batteries equipped with BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.

Additionally, new infrastructure and facilities were inaugurated at the Karwar naval base in Karnataka, including major piers and residential accommodations, enhancing the living conditions for officers and civilian defence personnel.

The inclusion of extended-range BrahMos missiles and new radar facilities at Minicoy is intended to improve India’s surveillance capabilities and provide a flexible response to threats.

[titash]

Nice Pic Chetak-ji

there seem to be differences between the ships on the left and the right.

the one on the left appears to have the 2-sided Top-Plate radar, similar to the Talwar class, in addition to the Lanza.

The one on the right appears to have the 1-sided Half-Plate radar, seen in the older pics of Delhi/Mysore/Mumbai

INS Delhi on the right, she didn't get the Fregat M2M upgrade like Mysore and Mumbai. So on the left could be either Mysore or Mumbai, although some accounts have pointed at Mysore as the first ship with Lanza-N.

Thank you SNaik-ji

Quick question for all mujahids:

- Is there a compelling reason why Delhi was passed over for both radars? Or it it simply due to availability of the upgrade kits at the time of refit?

- Will the Shivaliks remain without a VLS based on what happened to the Delhi class? These have 20 years of service remaining. Would it not make sense to rebuild these with Barak-8/MF-STAR?

- Any news on the Talwars? Are any of them getting a VLS? The older 3 ships are almost 20 years old

[Pratyush]

Titash.......

Snip...
Any news on the Talwars? Are any of them getting a VLS? The older 3 ships are almost 20 years old

Do we know, if the 4 on order have VLS?

[SNaik]

Future INS Tushil leaving Kaliningrad on her first sea trial, 5 March 2024

https://t.me/ChDambiev/28409

[Rakesh]

Future INS Tushil leaving Kaliningrad on her first sea trial, 5 March 2024

https://t.me/ChDambiev/28409

Sir, link does not work. I found another link ---> https://twitter.com/RSS_40/status/1766732275167768982

[srai]

…
- Will the Shivaliks remain without a VLS based on what happened to the Delhi class? These have 20 years of service remaining. Would it not make sense to rebuild these with Barak-8/MF-STAR?
…

Ideally, yes.

But practicality and cost-wise may be prohibitive. Probably would require a very long refitting. Better to acquire a newly designed ship.

Perhaps less challenging/costly improvement would be to replace Shtil SAMs with DRDO’s VL-SRSAM?

[SNaik]

Future INS Tushil leaving Kaliningrad on her first sea trial, 5 March 2024

https://t.me/ChDambiev/28409

Sir, link does not work. I found another link ---> https://twitter.com/RSS_40/status/1766732275167768982

Sorry for that, Telegram link still works for me.

[SNaik]

Titash.......

Snip...
Any news on the Talwars? Are any of them getting a VLS? The older 3 ships are almost 20 years old

Do we know, if the 4 on order have VLS?

The 4 on order should have VLS Shtil, the 2 built in Russia already have it installed. The status of the two at GSL is currently unclear. Laid in January and June 2021, the delivery is expected sometime in 2026. That means both should be launched this year but no update available for long time.

[Aditya G]

Do we have enough Zorya GTs for the 2 ships to be built by GSL?

Do we know, if the 4 on order have VLS?

The 4 on order should have VLS Shtil, the 2 built in Russia already have it installed. The status of the two at GSL is currently unclear. Laid in January and June 2021, the delivery is expected sometime in 2026. That means both should be launched this year but no update available for long time.

[SNaik]

Do we have enough Zorya GTs for the 2 ships to be built by GSL?

This is a question for ZORYA MASHPROEKT INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED

https://zoryaindia.com/

[Pratyush]

The Russians have developed an alternate GT. It's a drop in replacement for the Zorya.

[SNaik]

Not exactly a drop in. There are 2 types of GT available M90 and M70FRU, but a new reduction gear required and a redesign of internal space.

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/SpokespersonMoD/status/17 ... 41238?s=20 ---> Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh inaugurated the newly constructed headquarters of the Indian Navy "Nausena Bhawan" in New Delhi.

VIDEO: https://x.com/AshTheWiz/status/1765078382570848278?s=20 ---> Defence Minister Shri Rajnath Singh inaugurated Naval War College's state of the art building "Chola" today.

[AkshaySG]

VIDEO: https://x.com/SpokespersonMoD/status/17 ... 41238?s=20 ---> Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh inaugurated the newly constructed headquarters of the Indian Navy "Nausena Bhawan" in New Delhi.

While I am very happy that the services are getting newer HQs and much better digs however it does seem like a missed opportunity not only for a joint HQ but also architecture and design wise.

When so much good design work is being done with the new parliament and Janpath why do IA/IN /IAF HQs end up looking like a mid sized IT company's second campus in Pune.

[Sonugn]

MV Ruen - Saved from Pirates

#INSKolkata, in the last 40 hours, through concerted actions successfully cornered and coerced all 35 Pirates to surrender & ensured safe evacuation of 17 crew members in the evening today #16Mar 24 from the pirate vessel without any injury.

#INSKolkata had carried out the interception of the Pirate Ship Ruen almost 1400 nm (2600km) from the Indian Coast, and forced the pirate ship to stop through calibrated actions which were augmented by #INSSubhadra, HALE RPA, P8I maritime patrol aircraft & #MARCOS PRAHARs air-dropped by C-17 aircraft.

The vessel has also been sanitised for presence of illegal arms, ammunition and contraband.

https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 1163702518

35 Pirates surrendered.

[Rakesh]

This is a bad idea....

Indian Navy is opening submarine doors to women, but it must navigate crewing challenges
https://theprint.in/opinion/indian-navy ... s/1997200/
12 March 2024

The Navy is set to induct women in submarines, but these deployments come with specific crewing, bunking, and privacy issues that must be addressed.

[bala]

Some more details on the Pirate Ship Ruen rescue..

King of Indian Ocean in Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni53A5amM8k

Makes one feel mighty proud of Indian Navy and its flawless execution. A brilliant and daring work and everyone must watch how this was accomplished by Indian Navy. Certainly the King of Indian Ocean. Other countries talk a lot but when it comes to actual rescue, this one is for the history books. Those brave Marcos did a superb job - thanks from the bottom of our hearts. We need to support the Indian Navy in whatever it needs - submarines, patrol aircrafts, drones, destroyers, frigates, aircraft carriers - Jai Ho Indian Navy!!

[Pratyush]

I was pleasantly surprised to see the MARCOS execute such a daring operation.

But then I really shouldn't be.

Well done.

[IndraD]

US/Nato air base in Somalia is closer to the incident site than India
then why is India involved and not US?
Who is footing the bill for mobilisation of resources?
Wasn't long back US fleet trashed waters of Indian Ocean ?
What has changed? Why US doesn't want to fight Iran in this area?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baledogle_Airfield

Even China has a base here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27 ... n_Djibouti

[Manish_P]

Does Somalia have a functioning goverment?

We should recover the cost of the drone they shot down

And those scum should be held for a long time

[nits]

^^ lets say they get 10 RI; what happens after that - where do we drop them - in the sea ?

[Manish_P]

^^ lets say they get 10 RI; what happens after that - where do we drop them - in the sea ?

Oh I have a few thoughts - none of which are civilised

The most palatable would be to simply put them in a raft close enough to their coast and let them find their way home... firing tracer rounds to help them navigate, if required.