Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

[vijayk]

Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND

Only three states are unpredictable at the moment --

Odisha
Telangana
West Bengal

BJP is confident that It will emerge as single largest party for the first time in all these 3 states.

That will be historic for BJP. BJP's strength will further increase manifold in India before 2029 if it wins these three states.

[bala]

In PGurus Kaartik Gor says that Modi will win and the science of vedic astrology indicates the outcome.

[shravanp]

Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND

Only three states are unpredictable at the moment --

Odisha
Telangana
West Bengal

BJP is confident that It will emerge as single largest party for the first time in all these 3 states.

That will be historic for BJP. BJP's strength will further increase manifold in India before 2029 if it wins these three states.

Maharashtra as well. Two NCPs, two Shiv Sena's in the mix, could have spread some confusion among the voters. At least thats what some DDMs were quoting.

[Sumeet]

Famous pollster -- Pradeep Gupta from My axis gives B Dutt a good lecture on why BJP under Mr Modi is coming back without actually revealing poll numbers.

Awesome answers given by Mr Gupta and Barkha's face is worth a watch. She is not liking it at all. Please do watch this one for sheer pleasure !!

[Sachin]

Even if Modi wants to avoid media, media cannot avoid Modi. This Modi also knows; and perhaps this is how he retains his popularity using the same progressive secular liberal MSM which tries to take him down.
PM Modi Meditates At Vivekananda Rock Memorial. See Pics, Video (NDTV)
Modi or BJP did not ask for media coverage. But they covered it any way. So free publicity even during "silent campaign" for Modi.

[williams]

Even if Modi wants to avoid media, media cannot avoid Modi. This Modi also knows; and perhaps this is how he retains his popularity using the same progressive secular liberal MSM which tries to take him down.
PM Modi Meditates At Vivekananda Rock Memorial. See Pics, Video (NDTV)
Modi or BJP did not ask for media coverage. But they covered it any way. So free publicity even during "silent campaign" for Modi.

To start with he doing something for his own personal inner peace and has absolutely no intention to make this a political stunt. However he is the popular prime minister of a world's leading country why would media not follow him? These dumbo Modi haters want to make everything into some sort of outrage.. .

[Haresh]

The Guardian view on India’s election: Narendra Modi’s audacity of hate

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ty-of-hate

[chetak]

RUDRA MODE: For the very first time, Modiji has retaliated and cautioned the dimwit on the dangers of wilfully proceeding down the path of malicious provocation


"Don't provoke me or else I will reveal sins of your ancestors."


WATCH VIDEO


The video is 0:19 minutes long

[Lisa]

The Guardian view on India’s election: Narendra Modi’s audacity of hate

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ty-of-hate

Its high time the Indian government reacted to this type of reporting. Just like we have an OCI facility we need to urgently create an ORV facility, i.e. a cabinet post for "Overseas Right of Veto". Then everything will be OK because then ghora uncleji can have his rightful say at the main table and most importantly, a right of VETO!

[chetak]

Is India circling her wagons ...



India’s central bank RBI just shifted 100Tonnes of Gold From UK to India.

This is the first time since 1991 when gold at this scale has been added to stock held locally.

More gold will be moving back to India in coming months, RBI says.

Any guesses at “what” is happening?

[chetak]

[drnayar]

Is India circling her wagons ...



India’s central bank RBI just shifted 100Tonnes of Gold From UK to India.

This is the first time since 1991 when gold at this scale has been added to stock held locally.

More gold will be moving back to India in coming months, RBI says.

Any guesses at “what” is happening?

When the west collectively loots Russian gold worth billions kept in their banks what hope is there for other countries ? Better have our gold IN the country

Also traction for BRICS currency backed by Gold

[ramana]

Folks I opened a new thread to post exit polls as and when they become available.

And the results of 4th June.

viewtopic.php?p=2620664#p2620664

I will close this thread once Exit polls start flowing in.
Ramana

[chetak]

[ramana]

Registrar should be promoted fir his well reasoned refusal.
Here also saved CJI from major embarrassment.
See how the two judges passed the buck to CJI.
Abhisex Singhvi got his comeuppance.
Now he won't get paid in crypto nor get RS seat in lieu of the payment.

All with one para refusal!!!

[A_Gupta]

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2022274

The Election Commission of India is all geared up to hold Phase-7 of Lok Sabha polls tomorrow, which also is the last phase. Polling is scheduled in 57 PCs across 8 States/UTs including Bihar, Chandigarh, Himachal Pradesh, Jharkhand, Odisha, Punjab, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. Polling for remaining 42 Assembly Constituencies of the Odisha State Legislative Assembly will also take place simultaneously.
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. In the last two phases, female voter turnout percentage has surpassed male voter turnout.

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Phase 7 Facts:

Polling for Phase-7 of the General Elections 2024 will be held on 1st of June, 2024 for 57 Parliamentary Constituencies (General- 41; ST- 03; SC-13) in 8 States/ UTs. Voting begins at 7 AM and closure of poll timings may differ PC wise.

42 Assembly Constituencies (Gen=27;ST=06;SC=09) of Odisha Legislative Assembly will also go to polls simultaneously.

Around 10.9 lakh Polling officials will welcome over 10.06 crore electors across ~1.09 lakh polling stations

Over 10.06 crore electors include approx. 5.24 crore Male; 4.82 crore Female and 3574 Third gender electors.
The optional Home Voting facility is available to 85+ and PwD electors.

13 Special trains and 8 helicopter sorties (for Himachal Pradesh) were deployed to ferry polling and security personnel.

172 Observers (64 General Observers, 32 Police Observers, 76 Expenditure Observers) have already reached their Constituencies days before the poll. They serve as the eyes and ears of the Commission to exercise utmost vigilance. Additionally, Special Observers have been deployed in certain states.

A total of 2707 Flying Squads, 2799 Static Surveillance Teams, 1080 Surveillance Teams and 560 Video Viewing Teams are keeping surveillance round the clock to strictly and swiftly deal with any form of inducement of voters.

A total of 201 international Border check posts and 906 inter-state border check posts are keeping strict vigil on any illicit flow of liquor, drugs, cash and freebies. Strict surveillance has been kept at sea and air routes.

[ramana]

What is the estimate for conducting the 2024 Lok Sabha Elections?

[Shaktimaan]

The INC is contesting on 330 seats.

They are dreaming of forming a government with 130 seats.

Sir, please remember that in 2004 Congress formed the government and took the Prime Ministership position with 146 seats.

[nits]

What is the estimate for conducting the 2024 Lok Sabha Elections?

Conducting an election of this scale is a monumental task for the Election Commission (EC), requiring meticulous planning to ensure that the voting rights of the country's vast population are upheld. This election will witness approximately 968 million eligible voters exercise their democratic rights.
As the EC aptly puts it, this is a celebration of democracy, representing the world's largest electoral movement in terms of both manpower and resources.

However, orchestrating an election on such a grand scale also comes with a significant cost. The expenses involved in conducting a Lok Sabha election have risen steadily over the years.

--- For instance, during India's first election in 1951-52, which spanned 68 phases, the cost was a modest Rs 10.5 crore.
--- Fast forward to 2019, and the cost had skyrocketed to a staggering Rs 50,000 crore ($7 billion), according to a report by the Centre for Media Studies.
--- Based on previous years' trends, the 2024 election is expected to cost approximately double the amount of the last election, amounting to a staggering Rs 1,00,000 crore.

Source - https://www.business-standard.com/elect ... 352_1.html

[chetak]

Pretty ambitious of FT to claim Modi faces shake up from Kejriwal when its journalists do not seem know what Kejriwal looks like and use a picture with Sanjay Singh in focus while referring to Kejriwal

[nits]

i believe that's a good story; it shows no dictatorship - Judiciary is neutral, Gov not interfering with elections or misusing power. Opposition getting fair chance but Public wants Modi - now what can one do - accept the mandate

I suggest they should keep such stories coming

[ramana]

Gaurav Pradhan writes

My data says that the Exit Polls numbers will be one sided

A very important trend noticed in this election is that Women voters in all phases have outnumbered men. This is the first time in history such trend is visible

and this is what I had been telling you for last few years that 3 segment will do bumper one sided voting for Modi ji

Women
Youth
Rural

This is result of working on ground

Elsewhere read women voters were 107 to men voters 100.

[sanjayc]

i believe that's a good story; it shows no dictatorship - Judiciary is neutral, Gov not interfering with elections or misusing power. Opposition getting fair chance but Public wants Modi - now what can one do - accept the mandate

I suggest they should keep such stories coming

^^ The white man writes the article, while a native sepoy's name is added as co-author to give an image that it is not purely a white man's hitjob against Modi.

[SRajesh]

Ramanji
Narishakti, Kissan Samman, Garib Parivar, Youth oppurtunities seems to struck a chord in the rural segments.
An Aspirational India with dream of Viksit Bharat do you think??

[Sachin]

Don't want to derail this thread. There is also an untold/unknown history of the Swami Vivekananda Rock. RSS and other people who wanted this memorial to be built had approached individuals and governments for donations. The CM of Kerala was E.M.S Namboodirippad from CPI(M), who did not offer a paisa as contribution. He is said to have stated clearly that "his state does not have any money to spare for building memorials for കണ്ണിൽ കണ്ട (some riff-raff found in one's path)) Sanyasis".

[uddu]

Dynasts lost and hence results are not acceptable. Results are out.
BJP must up the Ante for the final phase and tell the people that Congress has already declared that they are not going to accept result. Its time to give a strong response by the people in the Final phase.

[suryag]

Don't want to derail this thread. There is also an untold/unknown history of the Swami Vivekananda Rock. RSS and other people who wanted this memorial to be built had approached individuals and governments for donations. The CM of Kerala was E.M.S Namboodirippad from CPI(M), who did not offer a paisa as contribution. He is said to have stated clearly that "his state does not have any money to spare for building memorials for കണ്ണിൽ കണ്ട (some riff-raff found in one's path)) Sanyasis".

Sachin garu am also trying to find an article where someone from hindu munnani swamp overnight and put swamiji's statue or something because xtianists were planning to put a cross in the morning in connivance with local officials

[A_Gupta]

Sachin garu am also trying to find an article where someone from hindu munnani swamp overnight and put swamiji's statue or something because xtianists were planning to put a cross in the morning in connivance with local officials

I have heard that too.

A version of events is here:
https://groups.google.com/g/holy_trinit ... CGGk?pli=1

[A_Gupta]

Dynasts lost and hence results are not acceptable. Results are out.
BJP must up the Ante for the final phase and tell the people that Congress has already declared that they are not going to accept result. Its time to give a strong response by the people in the Final phase.

The Congi spokesperson says stuff in effect with the meaning that their Telangana state govt victory was also a conspiracy - BJP did not interfere with EVMs there so that they could say, see, no problem with EVMs and then steal the Lok Sabha elections in Telangana.

[rajsunder]

In PGurus Kaartik Gor says that Modi will win and the science of vedic astrology indicates the outcome.

TL DR of the video please

[Dilbu]

BJP will lose onlee.

[rajsunder]

It's quite disturbing that Raga is openly threatening violence if INDI doesn't win.
Have to see about that.
They are creating a false narrative that they will get 300 seats and laying grounds to dispute the results.
The only good thing is that the Modiji govt is continuing government and not a new one.

The day Modi speaks up, I will expose the sins of your seven generations. This statement of Modi was an answer for people who want to use violence.

[LakshmanPST]

Elsewhere read women voters were 107 to men voters 100.

Main reason for my Dhoti-Shiver...
RG's 1 lakh per year promise...

Wonder how many women are influenced by that freebie... Will probably know tomorrow...

[vijayk]

https://x.com/BesuraTaansane/status/1796621311860670643

[ricky_v]

Posting here though strictly ot as per the title because there is no thread to cover this mandate

While LS 2024 is the big prize, there are 4 assembly elections on as well currently that will end today and results of which will be declared on 4th June. Thus the states of Odisha, Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim may or may not get new state governments come June 4, there have been no posts tracking development in that front, though alll states are important abd OD and Andhra are resource rich and that have not been governed by the bjp.

Here AS is saying that bjp would form governments in OD, Andhra and Arunachal, requesting some feedback from other members as well on the topic

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/victory ... 0031/amp/1

We will surely cross 400 seats. We will also form governments in Odisha, Andhra Pradesh and Arunachal Pradesh," he said.

[A_Gupta]

Main reason for my Dhoti-Shiver...
RG's 1 lakh per year promise...

Wonder how many women are influenced by that freebie... Will probably know tomorrow...

In that Barkha Dutt - Pradeep Gupta interview linked above, Pradeep Gupta says the credibility of the Opposition's promises is what can get them votes. IMO, the Opposition has little credibility.

[A_Gupta]

https://x.com/erbmjha/status/1796556928966947087

"OpenAI has found a network linked with an foreign firm that was involved in peddling anti-BJP propaganda and boosting Congress's impressions on social media."

https://indianexpress.com/article/techn ... p-9364204/

In a first, OpenAI – the company behind ChatGPT – said it disrupted a covert influence campaign originating in Israel that used its models to generate pro-Congress and anti-Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) content and spread those online in a bid to disrupt the ongoing election process.

OpenAI said that in May, this network used its AI models to generate “large quantities of short comments that were then posted across Telegram, X, Instagram and other sites”.

As per a report released by the company on Thursday, a commercial company in Israel called ‘STOIC,’ which was generating content about the Gaza conflict, and to a lesser extent the Histadrut trade unions organisation in Israel and the Indian elections. The company said it had nicknamed the operation as “Zero Zeno”.

[ricky_v]

i will post a bit on the odisha assembly polls here, hopefully there is some leeway on that reporting on this thread without strictly being in the madate:

first off, indian public is very media hungry, ravenous even, but ls sucks all the oxygen out of the room where vs elections are also held simultaneously, that is a problem not only of msm but of sm as well, odisha, ap (both) vs elections are not in the general public's radar outside of the immediate areas

odisha has 147 assembly seats, to form the government, one requires 74, bjp is stating that they will win 75 which might indicate that they are not confident of outright winning, the important thing to note from the elections in 2009 to 14 to 19 are the increases in seats and more importantly the voting percentage:

2009: (source from this exhaustive statistical report by the eci )https://ceoodisha.nic.in/docs/PastElect ... E_2009.pdf

bjd - 103, +47 from 2004, 38.8%
inc - 27, -11 from 2004, 29.1%
bjp: 6, -26 from 2004, 15.0%


2014:



bjd - 117, 43.4%
inc - 16, 25.7%
bjp: 10, 18.0%

2019:



bjd - 112, 44.7%
inc - 9, 16.1%
bjp: 23, 32.4%

now if the trend holds, the bjp should theoretically better its tally, but would that be sufficient to from the government?

here is the population density map of odisha from 2011, so the indications can be way off, but i was unable to find a more recent population density breakdown of odisha constituency wise



comparing the above, the bjp seems to get more voting in areas with higher population which might push up its vote percentage without necessarily increasing its seat count, any odisha members, feel free to chime in

i could not find any current indications on the assembly polls barring some interviews with pandian that bjd would come into power again

[arshyam]

Don't want to derail this thread. There is also an untold/unknown history of the Swami Vivekananda Rock. RSS and other people who wanted this memorial to be built had approached individuals and governments for donations. The CM of Kerala was E.M.S Namboodirippad from CPI(M), who did not offer a paisa as contribution. He is said to have stated clearly that "his state does not have any money to spare for building memorials for കണ്ണിൽ കണ്ട (some riff-raff found in one's path)) Sanyasis".

Sachin garu am also trying to find an article where someone from hindu munnani swamp overnight and put swamiji's statue or something because xtianists were planning to put a cross in the morning in connivance with local officials

Not planning, they did and it was removed later. From a recent article in Swarajya:

India Had To Fight 'Secularism' Even To Build The Vivekananda Memorial

The rock is also significant for Hindus because of the presence of the footprints of Goddess Kumari.

But there were objections to this plan by sections of the Christian community, who called it St Xavier’s rock. They also put up a cross on the rock, which was visible from the shore.

Hindus protested against this. Around this time, the Dewaswom Board staked claim to the rock, citing its religious significance.

The Board agreed, provided that everything was handed over to them after the construction. The ferry service was started, with help of fishermen from Kerala, as local fishermen (most of whom were Christians) opposed it.

A judicial probe was ordered. The cross was removed and the area was declared as Vivekananda Rock by the government.

The removal of the cross caused angst among the Christians. Section 144 was imposed in the area by the police and access to the rock was prohibited. Armed guards were posted.

The entire article is a good summary on how the memorial came about. It was not that straightforward.

[Dilbu]

BJP will lose onlee.