Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Anwar Maqsood says Pakistan's defeat against USA 'must be an IMF condition'
You may be right
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OMG jihadi loose to USA
What gives??
Sleepy Joe said the other he loves watching Babar Azam bat
Maybe sending messages to Jernails better ask your boys to loose for IMF loans :rotfl:
This is definitely YYY conspiracy. A bunch of YINDU software engineer working for YAHUDI companies in YANKI land massacred innocents murd -a-momin leader of Islamic word of puppy looking Paki boys.
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Here's a good tool to study nuclear fall out. Not finding the appropriate thread for some reason.

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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Funniest thing about paki cricket team is 250 lbs. Azam Khan , he is in the team as he is son of Moin khan (former wk and cricketer). This dude neither can run nor can hit.
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Another funny thing is he DID NOT keep the wickets. Rizwan did. And that cost Pakis big time in the super over. Every time the crooked Amir bowled a wide, US stole a bye. All in all those wides cost 4 runs because Rizwan could not gather.
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The noose is tightening. Jihadistan desperately needs another 9/11.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2470510/ta ... -agreement
Another round of discussions between Pakistan and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has ended inconclusively due to disagreement over new income tax rates for salaried and non-salaried persons and the imposition of standard 18% sales tax on agriculture and health sectors’ goods.

The IMF insisted on merging the slabs related to salaried, non-salaried and other incomes. :mrgreen:

If the revised income tax rates are accepted, the tax contribution of the salaried class will jump to Rs540 billion in the next fiscal year, said the sources. To absorb this increase in tax rates, even a 30% pay hike will not be sufficient. #simple solution - all bakis should give themselves a very halaal 72% hike

The IMF has asked Pakistan to end all special tax regimes, like the low income tax on gains made by investing in the stock market and bank deposits.

The global lender has recommended treating these gains as part of normal income. The IMF is pushing Pakistan to increase the burden on the salaried class until the country recovers higher taxes from the non-salaried business individuals. # only fauji afsarans will be exempt
PS- when is MBS coming hain?
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Manish_P wrote: 09 Jun 2024 13:25
PS- when is MBS coming hain?
Based on my analysis of Pakis news reports of the last 5 years, MBS usually comes next month.
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No outrage over the pilgrims massacred in Reasi, Jammu, today.
We should stop playing with Pakistan and stop imports from China.
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Serious need for lighting up their side of the border. Make sure no shipping traffic thinks twice before going to Karachi. Hit the families of PakArmy in their homes.
And these lowlifes were hoping of resumption of trade
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saip wrote: 09 Jun 2024 08:40 Another funny thing is he DID NOT keep the wickets. Rizwan did. And that cost Pakis big time in the super over. Every time the crooked Amir bowled a wide, US stole a bye. All in all those wides cost 4 runs because Rizwan could not gather.
So, how many TVs in p@kiland went up in smoke? :P :twisted:
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Badmash has not congratulated but Chota Badmash sent in Felicitations today!! :roll:
Was waiting for the Kirket match maybe or Chinese master's advice just like Shri Pappuji :lol:
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la.khan wrote: 10 Jun 2024 14:53
saip wrote: 09 Jun 2024 08:40 Another funny thing is he DID NOT keep the wickets. Rizwan did. And that cost Pakis big time in the super over. Every time the crooked Amir bowled a wide, US stole a bye. All in all those wides cost 4 runs because Rizwan could not gather.
So, how many TVs in p@kiland went up in smoke? :P :twisted:
This was first time I saw that in several cities in nPakistan they had setup projectors in stadiums with live game for people to come watch, one person sold his tractor to buy tickets for this match. They have moved on from TVs now. Cars, tractors, buses are next.
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Union Minister Ramdas Athawale has threatened Pakistan a day after a terror attack in J&K's Reasi killed 9 pilgrims and injured over 40 others. Athawale said that India will have to start a war against Pakistan and snatch PoK if such attacks keep happening. He said the attack on the same day as Narendra Modi took oath as PM was deliberate. Watch for more details.
My sincere advice to TSP is not to dismiss this threat lightly.
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SSridhar wrote: 11 Jun 2024 10:03

My sincere advice to TSP is not to dismiss this threat lightly.
Until they see adequate body bags, infrastructure, equipment down- off course Equipment will be paid for USA and China- Pakistan has been the Ukraine in the Sub continent. Why will they, no point warning them, a few Army officers die, make a no man's land 20 km that side of the LOC.

In Kashmir, I think we should have put a Curfew in reasi and used UAV's to catch the Terrorists, we seem to be doing everything on foot. These guys have been roaming for some time. We need a Sar vinash 2.
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notwithstanding the latest terror attack on the tourist bus in cashmere


The pakis are desperately pushing for mohabat, aman, and harmony with India

What are they really looking for :mrgreen:


trade

kidneys, or

trade and kidneys


effing losers
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Aditya_V wrote: 11 Jun 2024 11:18
SSridhar wrote: 11 Jun 2024 10:03 My sincere advice to TSP is not to dismiss this threat lightly.
Why will they, no point warning them . . .
While the warning was indeed addressed to TSP, the real reason is to build a case/justification for the punishment that awaits them. The Modi government is not going to let this go without punishment, make no mistake.
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Shared some thoughts on the Reasi Terror Attack

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Paakis were jumping with joy at the ‘drubbing’ that was supposedly received by PM Modi in the election. I will come to the ‘drubbing’ part later in the thread. First I want to talk about the joyously jumping Paakis though.

The poor ******** smelled a looming weakness in the GOI in the coming days, and being the simple-minded, binary-thinking idiots that they are, they decided to ‘send across a message’.

Mind you, this wasn’t the first time they did this to coincide with change of govt in India.

If you remember, even in 2014, just a couple of days before the new GOI was sworn in, the Indian Consulate in Herat came under a deadly attack. The date was 23 May and IIRC, the next GOI was to be sworn in on 26 May.
But fact remains that this is NOT a weak govt by any metric whatsoever, IMO.

Now back to the Reasi incident. I do feel that the Brown Panted rulers of Bhikharistan feel differently from me and truly believe that now there is a ‘weak’ govt in Delhi. So they gave a go-ahead to their soldiers in mufti to do what they do best – Kill unarmed, innocent ‘Infidels’.

This they did with brutal and clinical perfection. And they timed it near perfectly with PM Modi’s oath-taking ceremony.

What exactly happened in Reasi yesterday is fairly well-known, thanks to the mainstream and social media. But I think, this was about all that the simple-minded terror masters in Rawalpindi planned. Beyond that, they only had one plan – DENIAL!
Pretty soon, people were pointing fingers at TRF for having carried out the attack.

Now what is TRF, you might ask.

Well, TRF is just JuD branded in a different packing which itself is LeT in a new Salwar-Kameez, so that the truest ‘strategic assets’ of Bhikharistan cleverly stay one step ahead of possible sanctions, especially when the country itself is going begging to one and all for money.

Of course, fact remains that whatever shade of salwar-kameez they wear, they all are ultimately working on behest of the Brown Panted Ones sitting comfortably in Rawalpindi.
Of course, promptly came the denials by the TRF and the PAFF and their likes.

It wasn’t us, they are crying.

But too bad for them, no one believes them, and for good reason too.

Of course, the Brown Panted Ones in Pindi might still be sitting smugly, patting themselves on their backs for yet another spectacular ‘success’. There are thousands of expendables of TRF and PAFF for them to use and throw.
Which once again brings back to the present day GOI.

They have two choices – Either to retaliate, or not.

In either case, the collective opposition will cry merry hell because if they retaliate, then they will be accused of ‘milking’ the terror attack for political gains & if they don’t retaliate, then they will be accused of being weak.

In short, they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Feel free to disagree with my statement above.

That said, I think a retaliation is quite in order for that very reason – it is better to be damned for retaliating than for NOT retaliating. That, and of course the reputations of the past two NDA govts of strong military retaliations to far lesser provocations than this.
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kancha wrote: 11 Jun 2024 20:04 ...
Which once again brings back to the present day GOI.

They have two choices – Either to retaliate, or not.

In either case, the collective opposition will cry merry hell because if they retaliate, then they will be accused of ‘milking’ the terror attack for political gains & if they don’t retaliate, then they will be accused of being weak.
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The general elections were well over before the attack so IMHO there is less chance of the opposition accusing the GoI of milking the terror attack for political gain. And as you have yourself mentioned. Current GoI is not a weak entity. There will be retaliation.

Whether it shall be a disproportionate response, we might know soon enough...

Om shanti to the fallen. Especially that poor innocent boy.

I hope the jihadis are burnt such that there is no part of their bodies left to be buried.
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saip wrote: 07 Jun 2024 20:34 Anwar Maqsood says Pakistan's defeat against USA 'must be an IMF condition'
You may be right
I 400% agree, how can a short dark Saurabh Netravalkar who probably eats rice, and works for Oracle beat the tall fair Pakistani team where one player typically scores the runs of eight Indian players?
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https://tribune.com.pk/story/2471044/pm ... s-pakistan
PM Shehbaz orders reduction in power load shedding across Pakistan
The prime minister issued instructions to establish effective and active systems within distribution companies to facilitate timely registration of complaints regarding power outages.
Prime Minister Shehbaz emphasised that the purchase of new transformers must strictly adhere to international standards.
He also instructed relevant officials to utilise modern systems globally recognised for reforms in the energy sector.
Shehbaz called on provincial governments to fully support the campaign against electricity theft and ensure severe penalties for those involved.
He also issued strict instructions to curb load shedding and overbilling.
It's all so easy in Pakistan. PM chairs a meeting with 50 people and then "orders", "issues instructions", "emphasizes", "instructs", "calls on", "issues strict instructions" and the all problems get resolved. My suggestion is he should issue strict orders to bring in $100 billion FDI in six months.
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That's was also there in India before 2014, SG says reduce inflation, SG says no power outages etc, and it still there in TN where Cm asks to Stop this, has written letter to PM to do this, do that etc.....

I guess Birds of the same feather flock together
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Can India do something like recognize Afghanistan's position on the Durand Line?
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Good idea.

A simple comment about understanding of the Afghan position WRT, the Durand line should do the trick
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SSridhar wrote: 13 Jun 2024 17:09 'Deploy full spectrum of counter-terror capabilities': PM Modi reviews security situation in Jammu & Kashmir, talks to key officials
We warned here that Ramdhas Atwale's warning was not to be taken lightly.
What does full spectrum of counter terror mean? Does it mean crossing the LoC and hitting the Brigade HQ of pakistan in Muridke or does it involve another surgical strike or does it involve another air strike. Or are we going to still only comb on our side of the border?
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Better it is a good surprise and we learn of it like the Pakis after the event.
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Iyersan wrote: 13 Jun 2024 18:32 What does full spectrum of counter terror mean? Does it mean crossing the LoC and hitting the Brigade HQ of pakistan in Muridke or does it involve another surgical strike or does it involve another air strike. Or are we going to still only comb on our side of the border?
We'll find out, along with TSP, in due course of time.
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E.g., Jammu had Village Defense Committees in the early 2000s, which decayed after Jammu became relatively peaceful. They need to be reactivated.
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Iyersan wrote: 13 Jun 2024 18:32
SSridhar wrote: 13 Jun 2024 17:09 'Deploy full spectrum of counter-terror capabilities': PM Modi reviews security situation in Jammu & Kashmir, talks to key officials
We warned here that Ramdhas Atwale's warning was not to be taken lightly.
What does full spectrum of counter terror mean? Does it mean crossing the LoC and hitting the Brigade HQ of pakistan in Muridke or does it involve another surgical strike or does it involve another air strike. Or are we going to still only comb on our side of the border?
It could be anything. I think the first order of business is to destroy the local support.
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The pakis, led by chota shariff returned from their cheen visit, having taken with them about a hundred or so jihadi businessmen who must have paid the ministers huge sums in terms of bribes, just to be included in this august caravan, claiming a huge victory in terms of a very "successful" visit.

no wonder they are in a panic about "opening" trade with India, even as they see their state rushing towards the FATF and IMF icebergs in a titanic moment for their donkey loving state


China Shocks Pakistan.

China rejects Pak’s request for $17 Billion for CPEC.

China’s CPEC Failing





https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/world ... 51031.html


China refuses to fund fresh CPEC projects in Pakistan

China has refused to fund fresh projects in Pakistan due to the lack of progress on the multi-billion-dollar China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and Islamabad’s failure to honour its financial obligations.

China also has concerns about the safety of Chinese nationals working in the CPEC project as there have been attacks by terrorist groups.

China has invested over $25 billion in Pakistan for the project.

The CPEC, introduced in 2013 as the flagship extension of China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), was expected to transform Pakistan into a regional hub for economic connectivity.
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^^It is almost one year old. But the PM of Pakistan went to China recently (he considered this to be more important than the budget session) for another boot licking session. What happened?
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saip wrote: 14 Jun 2024 20:20 ^^It is almost one year old. But the PM of Pakistan went to China recently (he considered this to be more important than the budget session) for another boot licking session. What happened?
"We have SIFC so you should invest in Pakistan" was one of the pitches to Chinese investors so you can guess what happened - viewtopic.php?p=2622790#p2622767
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saip wrote: 14 Jun 2024 20:20 ^^It is almost one year old. But the PM of Pakistan went to China recently (he considered this to be more important than the budget session) for another boot licking session. What happened?


saip ji,



The pakis are covering their tattered backsides, because the purpose of the cheen trip was to basically to beg for the rescheduling some of the maturities in the slew of cheen debt instruments that will be maturing in the next three years.








Shehbaz Sharif in China: Why Pakistan's hopes for 'CPEC 2.0' may be dashed


https://www.business-standard.com/exter ... 995_1.html

Jun 03 2024,

Why is Shehbaz Sharif really visiting China?

According to Husain, the real aim of Shehbaz Sharif's visit to China is to ensure that some of the maturities in the Chinese debt instruments that will be maturing in the next three years are rescheduled, which the Pakistani government is trying to dress up as a relaunch of CPEC "for public consumption".

The reason for such a move is that the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which does not want its resources to be used to service Chinese debt obligations, has told the Pakistani government that an agreement will only be possible if there is no positive net outflow from Pakistan to China during the programme period.


Additionally,

A desperate Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and his coalition government appear ready to go to great lengths to appease China. This strategy likely aims to secure concessions, payment deferments, and immediate assistance at the current critical juncture.

Beyond the media hype surrounding the revival of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), Mr Sharif is working to secure a $15 billion rollover facility for five years and to persuade China to fund certain ‘big-ticket’ critical projects that Pakistan needs — but currently cannot afford — during his China visit last week. A businessman close to PML-N leadership shared this information in confidence.

“PML-N leaders aspire to attract hundreds of billions of dollars in investment to Pakistan over the next five years. If they succeed through diplomacy or luck, issues like poverty, unemployment, inefficiency, debt and trade gaps will start falling into place,” he asserted privately over the phone.

Commenting on the China visit, Gohar Eijaz, former minister of industries and commerce caretaker, noted, “The government is attempting to extend the repayment period of the independent power project (IPP) loans from China, which were set up under CPEC, for an additional five years. Additionally, they aim to kickstart CPEC phase two with a greater focus on business-to-business relationships.”

The government is scrambling to secure Beijing’s appeasement to cushion probable economic blows from the IMF
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The Himalayas have shrunk.
https://thediplomat.com/2024/06/is-chin ... -pakistan/
In both the 2018 and 2022 joint statements, China described relations with Pakistan as China’s “highest priority in its foreign policy.” But in the 2023 joint statement, as well as in the 2024 joint statement issued earlier this month, China-Pakistan relations for China are described as just “a priority in its foreign relations.” The adjective “highest” to describe Pakistan’s priority in China’s foreign relations has been omitted in recent statements.

This raises a whole host of questions. The fact the description has been published twice in successive joint statements suggests it was not a mistake. This then opens the possibility that China may have decided to downgrade relations with Pakistan from “the highest priority” to “a priority” in its foreign relations. It is perhaps a reflection of how, 10 years after choosing CPEC as the flagship BRI project, China now views its relations with Pakistan.
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AOA !!!!!!
Pakis are out of T20 world cup officially.
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^^^
The actual reason:
"Pakistan decided not to accept India's hegemony in the T20 world cup and maintain their H&D. Misfortunately (sic) YYY did sazish to make it rain just for the match, else Pakistan would have won the World cup " AoA
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This would have rammed the pakis where it hurt them the most




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RCase wrote: 15 Jun 2024 01:40 ^^^
The actual reason:
"Pakistan decided not to accept India's hegemony in the T20 world cup and maintain their H&D. Misfortunately (sic) YYY did sazish to make it rain just for the match, else Pakistan would have won the World cup " AoA
Pakistan have been disappointed by the non acceptance of truce proposal by Israel and so have quit the world cup in protest. It is thus a moral victory for them.

The players will now return and have a wind-down session by skiing with the pak army.
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jash_p wrote: 14 Jun 2024 23:06 AOA !!!!!!
Pakis are out of T20 world cup officially.
I have always maintained the view that Alla'h Taala had never been kind to the only nation founded on Islam. Never.
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I'm watching an episode of Pervez Hoodbhoy's Black Hole, where there is a debate and one of the debaters is saying, sometimes one feels that Islam is a great deen given to a contemptible people. The usual, "in Pakistan, it is Muslims that have failed Islam". Not one of them can say, "maybe Islam has set us up for almost certain failure".

The Hoodbhoy side is arguing that, yes, Islam is perfect, but the opposing side has conceded that the people do not have the quality to run an Islamic state. The opposing side is - if we have more and more Islam the people will improve. And anyway what alternative is there - liberalism, capitalism, secularism, Marxism, democracy, human rights, etc. etc. are all failures? (Of course, Pakistanis want to migrate to all those states with all those failed systems.)

The good news from this all is that Pakistan will not be able to fix itself.
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