Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

[Vayutuvan]

@vera_k ji, that is counterintuitive. My impression is labor favors illegal immigration aka asylum seekers.

[vera_k]

Migration Policy Institute

When the Labour Party came to power in 1997, immigration policy shifted course. Emphasis was placed on “selective openness” to immigration. Limiting and restricting immigration ceased to be a pillar of UK policy, and focus was on accommodation for workers and students

In response to public and media disquiet over such high levels of immigration, the government introduced a new approach in 2008 which governed immigration from outside the European free-movement zone: a five-tier Points-Based System (PBS) incorporating revised and consolidated versions of existing labor migration schemes.

[Haresh]

UK: ‘Free Palestine’ activist is new Chancellor and Justice Minister

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/07/uk-f ... e-minister

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabana_Mahmood

https://www.shabanamahmood.org/2021/08/ ... n-kashmir/

https://www.google.com/search?q=shabana ... s-wiz-serp

[Manish_P]

and

UK’s new prime minister, Keir Starmer, observes Shabbat, supports Israel and vows to fight antisemitism

For the first time ever, 10 Downing St., the official residence of the United Kingdom’s prime minister, will be home to a practicing Jewish family.

Keir Starmer, whose wife is Jewish, was sworn in Friday by King Charles III after the Labour Party won in a landslide. Though Starmer himself is not Jewish, his children are being raised Jewish and he says the family will continue to gather for Shabbat dinners while he is running the country.

Starmer has also been a strong supporter of Israel and pledges to fight the surge in antisemitism that’s plaguing the United Kingdom.

[chetak]

Record 29 Persons of Indian Origin elected to House of Commons. Of which 19 elected on Labour ticket


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 522590.cms

[g.sarkar]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng ... on-resultp
‘A difficult hand played poorly’: how No 10 slipped from Sunak’s grasp
Dan Sabbagh, 6 Jul 2024
Rishi Sunak became Britain’s prime minister quickly and unexpectedly in October 2022 after the short, financially catastrophic premiership of Liz Truss and the leadership of Boris Johnson, whose loose moral compass had allowed Downing Street to party while the rest of the UK was locked down.
The economic situation was dire – inflation at 11%, mortgages threatening to soar by £5,000 a year – and the political inheritance more desperate. But since then the 44-year-old prime minister has failed to turn around the Conservative’s fortunes. Lacking a transformative touch, he led the party to a historic defeat.
“Undoubtedly, Rishi had a difficult hand,” said Lee Cain, a former No 10 director of communications under Johnson who has also advised Sunak and now runs his own firm, Charlesbye Strategy.
“But he played it poorly. He had broadly the wrong strategy from the start, in an environment where people were crying out for change. You heard it in every focus group, but Rishi came in and positioned himself as the status quo candidate.”
Team Sunak’s original plan was to under-promise and over-deliver. On the day he started, his Conservatives were 30 points behind the Labour opposition in the polls. In his first address to the nation as prime minister, Sunak promised “integrity, professionalism and accountability” and said: “Trust is earned. And I will earn yours.”
There are arguably two Sunaks. The first is an immigrant success story: a British Asian from Southampton, Hampshire, a practising Hindu, the son of a GP and pharmacist, who made the historic achievement of becoming the UK’s first non-white prime minister. At the age 42, he was the youngest leader of the country in more than 200 years.
The other is a full member of Britain’s old fashioned establishment, who studied at the fee-paying Winchester College, then Oxford, before a career in the City of London and California’s Silicon Valley and a plum seat in parliament. This is the man married to a wealthy heiress, Akshata Murty, whose shareholding in the Indian IT business her father co-founded is worth nearly £600m.
In a period – and an election – dominated by concerns of the British public about the soaring cost of energy and living costs, it was the second that won out. During his time in office, stories routinely appeared reflecting Sunak’s wealth, making him appear out of touch. A heated 12-metre (40ft) pool in his Yorkshire home used so much power that the local electricity network had to be upgraded.
In Downing Street, the central strategy was to restore financial credibility, and the first of five promises made in January 2023 was to halve inflation. “He believed in sound money, not a cause that made anybody’s heart beat faster,” said Andrew Gimson, the author of a history of Britain’s prime ministers, and a biography of Johnson.
As a politician, Sunak had risen fast, perhaps too fast. He first became an MP in 2015, in the normally safe Conservative seat of Richmond, North Yorkshire, and was promoted to chancellor in February 2020 when Johnson’s advisory team thought he would be more malleable than predecessor, Sajid Javid.
Though an economic liberal by instinct, during the coronavirus crisis Sunak introduced the radical furlough scheme, where the state paid 80% of the wages of employees who were suddenly without work. He referred to it as his greatest political success, necessary because “I saw a country whose future hung in the balance”.
A few months later, Sunak launched a controversial “eat out to help out” scheme, later referred to by Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, as “eat out to help the virus”.
.......
Gautam

[chetak]

and

UK’s new prime minister, Keir Starmer, observes Shabbat, supports Israel and vows to fight antisemitism

For the first time ever, 10 Downing St., the official residence of the United Kingdom’s prime minister, will be home to a practicing Jewish family.

Keir Starmer, whose wife is Jewish, was sworn in Friday by King Charles III after the Labour Party won in a landslide. Though Starmer himself is not Jewish, his children are being raised Jewish and he says the family will continue to gather for Shabbat dinners while he is running the country.

Starmer has also been a strong supporter of Israel and pledges to fight the surge in antisemitism that’s plaguing the United Kingdom.

Manish ji,

starmer is a WEF stooge.

Don't see much of a future for India UK ties and god help this clown if trump finds his way to the WH once again.

[Yagnasri]

It is not just KS fellow as PM. Labour as a party is anti-Hindu. Expect Kahlis and Jihadis to have a more open power in Britshit land.

[AkshaySG]

I don't think it's controversial to argue that the Tories had done a sorry job of leading the government these past few years, Ever since Brexit they have been miserable with neither properly committing to the conservative policy and agenda nor being effective. Johnson was the only one who showed some energy but he had his own pitfalls.

Overall obviously having Rishi was better for India but I am not all doom and gloom on Labour and Starmer, They have their work cut out on the domestic front and in Europe so I expect status quo re:India.

The FTA wasn't going anywhere anyway so a few more rounds of negotiations won't hurt us especially if the new govt comes under pressure and is ready to make some more consessions.

The US/Canada elections will be far more crucial for us so worth a watch

[Manish_P]

starmer is a WEF stooge.

Don't see much of a future for India UK ties and god help this clown if trump finds his way to the WH once again.

Chetak ji, what exactly does the UK have to offer us anyway... other than the looted stuff.

IMVHO in about 3 decades or so there will probably be a latino El Presidente in the US and an Islamist PM in the UK.

[Haresh]

Why the Muslim Vote campaign is a glimpse into a horrifying future

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... n=DM356374

[chetak]

starmer is a WEF stooge.

Don't see much of a future for India UK ties and god help this clown if trump finds his way to the WH once again.

Chetak ji, what exactly does the UK have to offer us anyway... other than the looted stuff.

IMVHO in about 3 decades or so there will probably be a latino El Presidente in the US and an Islamist PM in the UK.

Manish ji,

The official state and its functionaries still have a very strong colonial mindset, as far as India is concerned

They strongly feel that we owe them big time for gallantly leaving behind a few unbutchered browns in tattered loincloths

the theft of >$45 trillion, apart in billion$ in stolen art treasures that they so proudly display in their british museums, have been side lined and they have pushed their version of colonialism, the ever present white supremacy as the dominant narrative, sanctioned by their evil doctrine of discovery

They have very efficiently rationalized all the evil that they wilfully perpetuated in India, to the extent even their textbooks do not refer to their dark colonial past except for pushing a whitewashed and sugary sweet narrative, in a benevolent empire sort of way, which paternalistically guided the savages and the pagans to a better and modern way of life

If they claim to have given us the constitution, they also gave us the pox in the from of a venal and traitorous congress

After being badly rebuffed by the EU and the amrikis, they now have high hopes of once again pulling wool over Indian eyes in the form of the FTA

Remember, when they first landed on Indian shores, it was allegedly for "trade"

Their shameful history of silence casts an opaque veil and envelopes their despicable legacies of colonialism, but the erstwhile colonies have neither forgotten, nor forgiven their sins, and their poisonous "gifts" of imagined modernity

[Neela]

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1809298626390175791

@AFpost
Labour names Shabana Mahmood as UK minister of justice.

Follow:
@AFpost

[sanjaykumar]

Sharia?

[chetak]

vi@WA

The thing with a lot of white people is that they love extremists who blow themselves up because these extremists make them feel morally/intellectually/civilizationally superior.

It is the rich smart successful spindly legged Hindu who gives white people an existential crisis.

[Haresh]

and their off........

Fury Indian PM Narendra Modi hails memorable welcome Moscow schmoozes Putin just hours Russian missile strike childrens hospital Ukraine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... raine.html

[chetak]

x posted from the Modi 3.0 thread



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkk8-7NUdVg




Are the british biased against India and Hindus?







The video is 8:34 minutes long



Are the British biased against India and Hindus from India?

Why do they dislike Indians so much?

Is it because India is a rising power?

One survey has found that British Indians are experiencing prejudice because of the British media's biased reportage on India.

What gives?

[Lisa]

For those who do not know,

Labour 9,698,409 votes and 412 seats

Reform 4,114,287 votes and 5 seats

More interestingly, Conservatives AND Reform = 11,000,000 votes ballpark i.e. 1,000,000 more votes than Labour but why?

IMHO, many who voted with Reform did not wish to continue with an Indian PM! Rather vote Racist and lose than be in power with an Indian at the helm!

[drnayar]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2v2mdg7vo.amp

The US government has blocked a British court hearing from taking place on a British territory, citing security concerns, according to court documents.

[Haresh]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2v2mdg7vo.amp

The US government has blocked a British court hearing from taking place on a British territory, citing security concerns, according to court documents.

HMV !!

[chetak]

The britshits are gungho about the FTA, and their desperation for the FTA is now a national necessity that has gripped both parties, especially, after the EU and the amrikis dumped them callously, despite high hopes of the ever conniving britshits

The britshits are not to be trusted, no matter who is in power, and what the incumbent PM says because they are out to fool us, while they hope to line their pockets once again

India has changed. We are no longer satisfied with potato chips because we are focussed on semiconductor chips and don't need the sermonizing and moral platitudes from a third rate muslim centered state starting it's foreordained democratic death throes precipitated by their abrahamic immigration compulsions.

moreover, the colonial reptile can hardly rid itself of its poison fangs, its racism, and the age old, ever present white supremacist genetic heritage

India’s ties with the Labour Party have been tumultuous due to their remarks on the Kashmir issue in the past. Their stance has been in stark contrast with the British government’s view that Kashmir is a bilateral matter between India and Pakistan.

Back in 2019, under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn, the party had passed an emergency motion calling for international observers to “enter” Kashmir and demand the right of self-determination for its people.

Starmer has now attempted to change his party's traditional stance on cashmere. During the interactions with the Indian diaspora and public addresses, Starmer recognised that Kashmir is an integral issue of India and reiterated that it should be resolved between India and Pakistan


Starmer, while campaigning for these elections, set out to fix the lapses made by his party in the past.

His party’s manifesto also included a commitment to pursue a “new strategic partnership” with India, emphasizing the trade agreement.

“Any constitutional issues in India are a matter for the Indian Parliament, and Kashmir is a bilateral issue for India and Pakistan to resolve peacefully,” Starmer said during a meeting with Labour Friends of India.

In addition to this , during his poll campaign, Starmer embarked on outreach efforts, denouncing Hinduphobia and celebrating cultural festivals like Diwali and Holi.

https://www.financialexpress.com/world- ... s/3544840/

[Haresh]

Starmer Releases Grooming Gang Leader From Prison

https://www.youtube.com/live/22Wg6rgj94 ... YAqdzYaDoo

[chetak]

Starmer Releases Grooming Gang Leader From Prison

https://www.youtube.com/live/22Wg6rgj94 ... YAqdzYaDoo

Haresh ji,

no need to ask why ....

[Haresh]

The comments are interesting, why do they think other countries have to get involved in their madness ?
They make simple minded moral judgements on morality.

"Why is Modi sucking up to Putin? It’s simple and cynical: China and oil"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/india

[Haresh]

Who knows what is going on here !!??

https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/18 ... _&ref_url=

[chetak]

The comments are interesting, why do they think other countries have to get involved in their madness ?
They make simple minded moral judgements on morality.

"Why is Modi sucking up to Putin? It’s simple and cynical: China and oil"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/india

Haresh ji,


It's primarily china, per se.

currently, the oil is more of a bonus, a short term thing that will not last much longer but we must make hay while the sun shines

If the situation in ukr corrects, oil will normalize quickly to it's producer/cartel controlled fluctuations and control will end up in the hands of the consortiums and the dollar will start to lose it's shine in the petroleum trade

[Tanaji]

The Ambani wedding seems to be causing a lot of heart burn to the BBC . Coverage with a negative tenor and snarky comments:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87repz4yx8o

To each his own on how lavish they want to do the wedding if they can afford it, what goes BBC’s fathers?

Also BBC seems to have picked some more folks for writing apart from their usual resident Gungadin…

[Haresh]

Why the Establishment Hates This Man | Tommy Robinson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnhwBoFxaDI

[sanman]

The Ambani wedding seems to be causing a lot of heart burn to the BBC . Coverage with a negative tenor and snarky comments:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87repz4yx8o

To each his own on how lavish they want to do the wedding if they can afford it, what goes BBC’s fathers?

Also BBC seems to have picked some more folks for writing apart from their usual resident Gungadin…

I'm not a fan of Big Lavish Indian Wedding. It looks too show-off. They really overdo it.

[sanman]

Is it true that Rolls Royce has offered India 100% tech transfer for jet engines?

[chetak]

The Ambani wedding seems to be causing a lot of heart burn to the BBC . Coverage with a negative tenor and snarky comments:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87repz4yx8o

To each his own on how lavish they want to do the wedding if they can afford it, what goes BBC’s fathers?

Also BBC seems to have picked some more folks for writing apart from their usual resident Gungadin…

I'm not a fan of Big Lavish Indian Wedding. It looks too show-off. They really overdo it.

sanman ji,


This is for their business and a show of their influence and financial muscle


All businessmen do it, even if they cannot afford to put up a show, they will still borrow money and put up a performance befitting their status


These guys are geopolitical players of the business world, they have a truly global reach and you would be surprised by the number of deals that will get made quietly during the festivities, away from the glare of the media.


no ambani worth their salt will spend so much money and not expect to make at least three times or more, the profits on the outlay for the wedding within a very short span. Besides the groom will make and cement personal connections that will be of help to their many family enterprises


what may be a show off for many, is actually the way business gets done at their rarefied levels

[Haresh]

Is it true that Rolls Royce has offered India 100% tech transfer for jet engines?

I found this

https://www.google.com/search?q=rolls+r ... s-wiz-serp

[sanman]

Is it true that Rolls Royce has offered India 100% tech transfer for jet engines?

I found this

https://www.google.com/search?q=rolls+r ... s-wiz-serp

Thanks -- so UK is playing "Good Cop" to America's "Bad Cop"?

https://idrw.org/rolls-royce-offers-ful ... ith-india/

https://www.reddit.com/r/RYCEY/comments ... nsfer_for/

[Kedar]

The comments are interesting, why do they think other countries have to get involved in their madness ?
They make simple minded moral judgements on morality.

"Why is Modi sucking up to Putin? It’s simple and cynical: China and oil"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/india

The Guardian has become a MUTU newspaper. MSM are not as much sucking up to the Democrats as this newspaper is doing. Even MSNBC was not so much hyped about Trump trials as this newspaper where they have a separate section for that.

Basically they are down to a handful or columnists and contributors who seemed to be writing on any topic under the sun. In one of column by Margaret Sullivan on Alito and Supreme Court being neither honorable nor functional; I had agreed but said that the entire judicial system has been corrupted and is political. Case in point the New York cases against Trump. Needless to say since then my commenting capability has been disabled. That was the last straw I believe. In India section whenever in a blue moon they had an article that was open for comments I would counter with facts.

Their commenting articles are down to some useless topics. Rest are propaganda pieces.

[krithivas]

With the political power in UK shifting Left and Pro-Islam, How safe are UK's nuclear assets assuming they can afford it? UK now is a major nuclear proliferation threat.

[Haresh]

The comments are interesting.
Basically The Indians are ok and no threat, it's the peaceful ones.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... bused.html

[Aldonkar]

With the political power in UK shifting Left and Pro-Islam, How safe are UK's nuclear assets assuming they can afford it? UK now is a major nuclear proliferation threat.

The Labour party being in power is indeed a shift to the left. However, Starmer is much more sensible than his predecessor Jeremy Corbyn, and keeps it close to the middle ground that most Britons espouse. Mrs Starmer is Jewish and their children are being raised as practicing Jews - so much for those who say they are pro Palestine. Many Islamic types complained that the current Labour party was not supportive of Arab causes and many constituencies with large Muslim votes had Independent candidates that stood. Three were elected, in South Leicester ( Shaukat Adam) a chap called Iqbal Mahmood, and a third in the Blackburn area.

There are current Labour who are left wing, most of whom have been kept out of the cabinet but the Justice minister (a woman whose surname is Mahmood) has been on record with pro Pakistan saying and claims to be of Kashmiri heritage.

[Vayutuvan]

There are a lot of pro-Palestine Jewish folks in the the US, at least. A majority of them are also anti-Hindu. They are left leaning Jewish folks.

[Yagnasri]

Entire world left is anti Hindu and Anti Indian.

[chetak]

With the political power in UK shifting Left and Pro-Islam, How safe are UK's nuclear assets assuming they can afford it? UK now is a major nuclear proliferation threat.

krithivas ji,

This is not only alarmist, it's also needless speculation.

There never was/is/will ever be the threat of any minor/major nuclear proliferation from the UK, in case it is over run by the bug eyed, turban wearing crazies

If the jihadis make the slightest move for the nukes, they will be slaughtered in the streets in their thousands, human rights be damned, and no one will even bat an eyelid. This will be just the very first step

South Africa was once a nuclear power and it also was, to a considerable extant, responsible for israel building its nuke capability so quickly

No one talks of the South African nukes today. They are non existent, vanished into thin air, evaporated without a trace, and there is no naam aur nishan of the program. It cannot ever be resurrected by the people who now rule SA.

The goras know what to do when the yellow stuff hits the rotating apparatus fixed to the ceiling.

Every time India fires off a MIRVed ICBM with a huge range and lethal strike capability, the world yawns in a bored fashion and people get on with their day, with the exception of the pakis and the slant eyed snakes

But if the pakis or the cheen test a missile, the world takes adverse notice.

Ever wondered why ..