Kargil War Thread - VI

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/ndtv/status/1813963437657215297 ---> At the height of the Kargil War in 1999, Squadron Leader Ajay Ahuja, flying a MiG-21, was searching for Flight Lieutenant K Nachiketa, an Indian MiG-27 pilot who had ejected. Sqn Ldr Ahuja was himself forced to eject when Pak surface-to-air missiles struck his aircraft. The brave Squadron Leader was captured by Pakistani forces and shot dead. Squadron Leader Ahuja's widow looks back at the life and times of her husband, whose first love was always fighter-flying.

[MeshaVishwas]

Full series is a must watch, thanks to Sh. Gokhale ji for airing this.Made my weekend.
Jai Hind.

[AdityaM]

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/ndtv/status/1816443144369815976 ---> Kargil@25: Valour and Sacrifice | MiG-27 Ejection, Then Gun In Mouth: Kargil War Hero Recounts Capture In Pakistan.

MiG-27 Ejection, Then Gun In Mouth: Kargil War Hero Recounts Capture In Pak
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/k-nachi ... ak-6186518
25 July 2024

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/VJSWRITER/status/1817425264801874164 ---> Untold, greatest jugaad of Kargil. Soldiers made battlefield temples from empty shells, food sent to peaks in empty mortar shell casings, etc. But best innovation that surprised, deceived Pak was 6 dummy Bofors guns to divert enemy counter-bombardment and waste his expensive shells.

[ramana]

Lt Gen K.H. Singh says intrusion signs were spotted by March 1999.

https://x.com/IndianExpress/status/1817 ... ndRIA&s=19

[S_Madhukar]

A little nitpicking from my side is I hope the media covers some lesser known Even mundane exploits and that we do justice to all arms and all ranks, even cooks and porters. Yes some gave their absolute all but we need to be shown . The team work that goes behind it all

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1832331820882665654 ---> Breaking: First time ever Pakistani Army accepts involvement in Kargil War; Sitting Pakistan Army Chief General Asim Munir confirms Pakistan Army involvement in Kargil War with India. Pakistani Army has never publicly acknowledged its direct role in the Kargil War, so far.
^^^^
VIDEO: https://x.com/VJSWRITER/status/1832786156053750157 ---> Too much is being made of current Pak COAS “admitting” Kargil. Here is late General Parvez Musharraf admitting he came across LOC during Kargil. The Pak bodies that lie buried here, the bodies accepted back, the list of dead and gallantry awards… revealed this much earlier.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/JhalaZalimSingh/status/18 ... 9393322059 ---> Interesting. At the Battle of Tololing, soldiers from Rajputana Rifles wanted to burn the Pakistani dead but it was a Company Havaldar who carried the image of Karni Mata to the top who opposed it saying "Apna Dharma bolta hai devangat ko samman dena chahiye."

[SRajesh]

https://youtu.be/4XqcbuVYBMA
Just saw this
Is this really true a Para leader asked for better equipment for his men gets sacked!!!
And this after fighting on a another peak and whislt on the way down asked to another area.

[wig]

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/amp/nat ... ar-1835180

New book recalls ‘head cutting in jhatka style by Gurkhas’ panicking Pakistani soldiers in Kargil War

excerpts
the author details the audacious attacks of 1/11 Gurkha Rifles on the Khalubar Ridge in the Kargil War as the soldiers climbed the high hills to attack the Pakistanis after the sunset.

“In the wee hours of 5–6 July 1999, rifleman Ganesh Pradhan had run out of ammunition for his INSAS 5.56-mm rifle while engaged in an intense, close-quarter battle to clear the Pakistani bunkers lodged on the Khalubar South Ridge. His Charlie Company’s second-in-command, Captain VA Joshi, lent him three rounds of ammunition, and Pradhan unleashed his khukri as he ventured into the bunkers,” added Singh in the book, published by The Browser.



Singh quotes Pradhan, saying that “I saw an enemy soldier wearing a tracksuit in the bunker’s toilet, and I leapt at him before he could raise his rifle. My khukri, with an angled-down blow starting from the top of the neck, did the job in one stroke”. Pradhan told Singh that “the khukri is better than a rifle in body-contact battles”.


Singh also quotes Pradhan’s commanding officer during the War, Colonel Lalit Rai, to share accounts of the bravery of Gurkha soldiers. “My short Gurkha lads charged at the tall Pathan Pakistanis and leapt at them with khukris glinting in the moonlight. The charge was fired up with our war cry, Jai Mahakali, Ayo Gurkhali, which reverberated in the mountains. I saw Pakistani heads tumbling down the mountain past me as I climbed,” the book quotes Rai.



The commanding officer shared that he thought the tumbling heads were rocks coming down at me. “The Pakistanis panicked in the face of the Gurkhas’ ferocity. They fled as they felt that head cutting in the jhatka style by the Gurkhas would send them to hell as this method of slaughter was considered haram by them,” Rai is quoted in the book saying.


“They panicked, and my boys chased them at the high altitudes just like school children playing games,” Singh quotes Rai recalling the battle fought of the Gurkhas to evict the Pakistanis.



Singh also shared an account of Captain Manoj Pandey, PVC (Posthumous), of the 1/11 Gurkha Rifles, who defied his mother’s advice to lead soldiers in charging the Pakistani positions. “It was on ‘Bunker Area’, Khalubar Ridge, that Pandey had fought his most glorious battle as 5 Platoon Commander during the night of 2–3 July 1999. Pandey had busted three bunkers before taking a burst from a machine gun in the forehead while attacking the fourth,” recalled Singh in the book.


But Pandey’s mother was fearful of the deadly prospects of war and had asked her son to stay back from the frontline. “The axiom of war families is that the braver the army son, the more worried is mum back home. Manoj’s mum, Mohini (now deceased) had told him when she spoke to him on the STD landline phone, ‘Manoj, do not venture too forward into battle as you are an officer. Send the jawans ahead,” Singh shared the conversation of the mother and son before the Captain had led his soldiers against the enemy fronts.


“Mummy, if you and I are going somewhere and there is trouble, will you, as a mother, put your child in front or will you remain in front and keep me behind? In the same way, the Gurkha jawans are like my children. I will stay ahead when the firing starts and keep my jawans behind me,” the book quoted Pandey telling his mother.


The author stated in the book that “Pandey led the charge on the bunkers braving the proverbial hail of fire. His last words to his battling, valiant Gurkhas, as he lay in front of the Pakistani bunkers, were: na chodnoo (do not spare them, press on with the attack).”

[ramana]

New info about date of intrusion and cover-up


https://x.com/VJSWRITER/status/18942587 ... tNq0g&s=19

Please post screenshot. Thanks

[Manish_P]

New info about date of intrusion and cover-up


https://x.com/VJSWRITER/status/18942587 ... tNq0g&s=19

Please post screenshot. Thanks

[Manish_P]

Laaton ke Bhoot Baaton se nahin maantey..... but Jihadi zombies laaton se bhi nahin maantey

‘Kya karun, Miyan Saab ne joote khane ke liye akele bhej diya’: Inside the DGMO meeting that ended Kargil War

As Pakistani troops began pulling back under pressure in early July 1999 during the Kargil War, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee phoned his Pakistani counterpart, Nawaz Sharif, on July 4.

He asked that Pakistan’s Director General of Military Operations (DGMO) meet the Indian DGMO for discussions on a complete withdrawal beyond the Line of Control (LoC).

Following Vajpayee’s instructions, then-DGMO Lt Gen Nirmal Chander Vij (retd), along with deputy DGMO Brig Mohan Bhandari (retd), travelled to Attari on July 11 to meet Pakistan’s DGMO Lt Gen Tauqir Zia (retd).

Bhandari, now retired as a Lt General and living in Ranikhet, recalled a surprising sight: Zia had come alone. “As per the schedule, we left Delhi at 6.30 am and reached Amritsar by 8.15 am. From there, we took a chopper to Attari. When I went to check on the Pakistani side, I saw Zia standing alone, smoking, his cap tilted,” he told Times Of India.

Bhandari, who had met Zia earlier during the Siachen talks, greeted him and asked, “Ye kya hai Tauqir... akele?” (How come you are alone?). Zia replied, “Kya karun? Miyan Saab ne joote khane ke liye akele bhej diya.” (What could I have done? Miyan Saab sent me alone to take the blows.)

‘Miyan Saab’, Bhandari clarified, was Nawaz Sharif. He added that protocol didn’t permit the Indian DGMO to meet his Pakistani counterpart without an accompanying delegation. “I asked Zia to call some Pak Rangers from the border, just for formality. Three officers joined him eventually. Still, we made them wait for ten minutes; we were angry at what had happened in Kargil, especially during peace talks.”

The meeting lasted around three hours. “Our DGMO gave clear instructions for a full retreat beyond the LoC, what to do and what not to do. Zia and his officers took notes silently. When asked if they had any doubts, Zia just said, ‘No doubt, ” Bhandari told TOI.

After a quiet lunch hosted by the Indian side, Zia and the three officers left.

The veteran, who served nearly 40 years in the Army, said the Indian DGMO had clearly told the Pakistanis not to lay landmines while retreating, but they “did the exact opposite.”

Against the accepted conditions, they continued to attack our troops in various skirmishes, and we decided to teach them a lesson by carrying out heavy shelling on their posts across the LoC from July 15 to 24. It was only then that they fully pulled back, and the conflict officially ended on July 25. If they had accepted the conditions in the first place without further violence, it would have ended by July 16 or 17,” said Bhandari.

[Aditya_V]

The veteran, who served nearly 40 years in the Army, said the Indian DGMO had clearly told the Pakistanis not to lay landmines while retreating, but they “did the exact opposite.”

Toilet paper is more worth it than treaties entered with Pakistan, everybody knows this but a large section Indians back stab other Indians to get thier job done.