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Kakkaji wrote: 08 Aug 2024 03:26 It doesn’t make sense to me why the US will involve itself in installing a hard-line Islamic government. To me, it seems like a China-Pakistan conspiracy
The USA would be certainly happy that Hasina was ousted, after all they declared the recent BD election to be "not free and fair" despite other international observers calling it "free and fair". But its unclear/time will tell as to what extent they actually worked on the ouster of Hasina and how much they are involved in the next plans.
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RamSuresh wrote: 08 Aug 2024 01:45 If Hasina has resisted to compromise with both US and China, then she perhaps has a better sense of Dharma than a lot of our politicians.
She was able to resist these powers (for 15 years, not just the last two months) with substantive backing from Modi sarkar. I don't think she was some kind of "lone-ranger heroine", though yes she certainly has more dharmic leaning than the likes of K Zia and other greens.
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Kakkaji wrote: 08 Aug 2024 03:26It doesn’t make sense to me why the US will involve itself in installing a hard-line Islamic government. To me, it seems like a China-Pakistan conspiracy
Inexplicable may be the acts of God and the US, but I think that in this case it was simply foolishness. The US State Department never liked the Awami League from the days of Sheikh Mujibur Rehman. They have considered them as disruptors of the US interests. Sometimes, institutions do carry their memories a long time forward. Therefore, they have been needling SH ever since she took over power. It found a crescendo now terming the January elections as 'unfair'. The Americans also wanted to needle & check India (particularly Modi) in the process as GoI was close to SH as they probably felt that an unholy alliance has been established. They thought that their image of 'standing up for democracy' would get burnished in the process. So, they revoked her visa also immediately. Recall that Barack Obama during his address to the joint session of the Indian Parliament on his first visit admonished India for maintaining a close relationship with the Myanmarese military junta without realizing why India was compelled to do so!

However, the Americans weren't either aware that parallelly China & ISI were plotting the ouster of SH through Jama'at-e-Islami and its student wing Chhatra Shibir (very much like JI's militant student wing Islami Jama'at-Tulaba, IJT, in Pakistan). Either that, or as in c. 1971, the US diplomats in BD warned the SD but the warnings were ignored.

However much we despise Winston Churchill, and rightly so, his assessment of the US was accurate: "You can trust the Americans to do the right thing – after they have tried all the wrong things”. This could even be proven wrong now as it was with great efforts & sacrifice that the AL took over power in BD from the Islamist extremists after the murder of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. It might be next to impossible for the AL to retrieve the situation anymore.

But, the days are gone when the US was able to overcome all its wrong-doings through coercion, dollars and blandishments.
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Just thinking: The Deep State wants to untangle from Cheen and the alternates don't look too promising for them other than India. The only problems with India are its democracy and alignment with Russia. The deep state wants cheap labor for trinket making a la Cheen, which they may not get with India. So BD is a good alternate for them, while they plunk themselves next door to India to keep brewing things within India. They have their goondagiri in Islamic jihad group and they will try their darnest to foment trouble for India next door. They have Mumtaz banu to help them.
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cannon fodder too for ola uber activities. they might think pakjabis have run out of steam lets try the kanglas
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on a side note, why are we not taking advantage of this situation...every time a western index talks about hooman rights we should send them a boatful of the diverse momeen talent around us. Just like Turkey and then ask for $$ to improve Navy/CG etc... only real western democracies can handle them ... beyond us now!
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Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh: How US Diplomat Donald Lu, whom Rahul Gandhi met during ‘secret visit’ to White House, has mastered regime change operations

This is from a paki paper August 6, 2024
Cypher case: Donald Lu allegedly orchestrated ‘regime change’ in Bangladesh as well

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2024/0 ... h-as-well/

In Bangladesh, thousands of rioters have achieved their aim of regime change, creating chaos throughout the country and demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina. As the rioters marched towards her official residence, Gana Bhawan, in Dhaka, Hasina was forced to flee the country for her safety, seeking temporary refuge in India. In the midst of this, the triumphant protesters stormed her residence, ransacking and looting everything in sight. Some waved looted animals, while others displayed her sarees and undergarments as trophies.

In India, however, the situation is being spun differently by Islamists, left-leaning journalists, and others, who are portraying this as a victory for democracy and youth. This narrative persists despite numerous reports of targeted attacks against Hindus, their homes, and temples in Bangladesh. Additionally, several Hindu leaders and journalists have been killed in these so-called democratic protests.

The protests originally began with demands to end reservations for the families of Bangladesh’s liberation warriors but eventually culminated in regime change in the eastern neighbor of India. As more pictures and videos emerge from Bangladesh, concerns about the persecution of minority communities, particularly Hindus, are growing alarmingly.

The global reaction to these sudden and chaotic events highlights the fact that there are multiple factors at play behind the scenes. A critical figure emerging in this scenario is US Diplomat Donald Lu, who appears to have played a significant role in the outcome of events in Bangladesh.

Donald Lu currently serves as the Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, a position he has held since September 2021. Previously, he was the US Ambassador to Albania and Kyrgyzstan, where he gained a controversial reputation for interfering in the political processes of other countries.

The United States, often seen as the self-appointed global police of human rights and democracy, has a history of meddling in the internal affairs of other nations. Donald Lu, described as the American equivalent of a ‘Chinese wolf warrior,’ has frequently expressed concerns about human rights issues in India under the Modi government, as well as in several other countries around the world.

In 2024, Lu made an unexpected visit to India during the Lok Sabha elections. Instead of landing in New Delhi, he visited Chennai, the capital of Tamil Nadu, a region known for its Dravidian politics and where the BJP is considered weak. This visit, officially aimed at strengthening bilateral relations with South India, raised eyebrows and drew criticism.

Geopolitical expert Dr. Anant Bhagwat commented that the Biden administration was not keen on a stable government in India, as the Modi government had followed a strong and independent foreign policy undeterred by external pressures during its tenure.

Additionally, in a secret meeting at the White House, Congress leader Rahul Gandhi reportedly met with Donald Lu and other officials of the Biden administration. During his US trip, Gandhi made several contentious remarks, including calls for foreign intervention to restore democracy in India.

Donald Lu has also expressed concerns about human rights issues in India, particularly in Jammu and Kashmir, during a hearing before the US Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. He criticized the absence of assembly elections in Jammu and Kashmir and mentioned ongoing human rights violations. Despite a significant reduction in violence and increased tourism following the abrogation of Article 370 and 35A, Lu’s comments highlighted the US’s continued scrutiny of India’s internal affairs.

Lu’s observations extended to India-Taiwan relations, noting the symbolic importance of the Indian Navy sailing into the Taiwan Straits.

During the same period, Lu visited Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. His visit to Bangladesh coincided with Sheikh Hasina’s return to power for the fourth time. The US Ambassador to Bangladesh, Peter Haas, was accused of supporting the opposition party Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP), which had boycotted the last elections.

Regime change in Pakistan

In Pakistan, the elected Prime Minister Imran Khan was ousted in April 2022 after public disagreements with the US administration. Khan alleged foreign interference, naming Donald Lu as a key figure, though Lu dismissed these claims as conspiracy theories.

These instances suggest that the US has increased its intervention efforts in South Asia. In Bangladesh, for example, violent protesters have targeted leaders of Sheikh Hasina’s Awami League party, leading to several deaths.

Similar unrest was seen in Sri Lanka in July 2022, where violent protesters stormed the Rashtrapati Bhavan, leading to the resignation of President Gotabhaya Rajapaksa. His brother, Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa, also had to resign. The US, seeking to curb Chinese influence in Sri Lanka, has since provided financial assistance to the country through USAID.

Amid these developments, Donald Lu has warned India and Bangladesh about the Rohingya issue, highlighting the problem of illegal immigrants involved in criminal activities.

There is growing concern that Donald Lu may be attempting to orchestrate similar regime change operations in India, akin to those in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka. However, such an operation in India would be more complex due to its diverse regions and unique issues.

The US deep state is believed to be uncomfortable with the Modi government in power, preferring a weaker coalition government. Efforts to spread confusion and chaos within India, including through the Farmers Movement and caste-based campaigns, have been observed.

As an ambassador in Albania and Kyrgyzstan, Donald Lu has been accused of instigating public unrest and provoking government changes. His tenure in these countries was marked by significant political turmoil, leading to the resignation of leaders and ongoing protests.

Overall, these events highlight the US’s continued interventionist policies in South Asia and the critical role played by diplomats like Donald Lu in shaping political outcomes in the region.
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Dr. Ankit Shah - 2 bucket theory : 1 bucket gets dollars and arms, the other bucket gets sanctions. The entire geopolitical hot spot theory created by good ole USA (with the Deep State of course) ensured the dollar supremacy with the added benefit of mop up of the remnants by the deep state operations of MIC/Industry rebuilding back the mess they created. Create a pig sty and clean it up by charging again. Nice virtuous cycle. Single currency pound of the old BritshitEmpire including their loot & cruel BritshitRaj of Bharat worked on the 2 bucket principle and that got transferred, in toto, to the US, as the mighty Dollar.

The multipolar world is breaking the paradigm completely. The Dollar is being replaced by BRIC currency backed by Gold. Remember the Nixon era Bretton woods agreement by deep sixing the gold standard, to allow for limitless printing machines. Now the West is trying to go towards bitcoin for currency. Multipolar means smaller circles of regional trade are being created, bypassing the mighty Dollar. Bharat starting signing independent trade agreements in the globe. Aussies signed. With UK it is in limbo, there is active sabotage by the US. Similarly with Canada, the Kalistan issue took hold and sabotaged any trade agreement with them. These nations are the prime gold members of the USA club and having them sucked into multipolar upstarts like India would mean no more 2 bucket ops. So the Deep State said enough of this, and they took out BD which was increasingly in close concert with India. BD with the Jihadi element is going to bite them in their rear!

The BD High Court decision to reverse the removal of reservation of jobs for Awami League cadre was the key for the agitation trigger. Of course this was timed perfectly by outside interference and payoff to the BD Judicial system. SH was incapable of handling such situations and riding the beast called Islamic Jihad with ISIS backing is an intractable problem. Now, that the beast has been unshackled, the Islamic Clerics will unleash their vengeful retribution and India has to brace for minorities to be decimated in a cruel, horrific manner. The Deep State will smugly smile away at the horror unleashed.

The 1971 war was triggered because of illegal waves of BD people flooding India and Indira was forced to war because of the sudden deluge. A similar thing may happen with Mumtaz Banu in charge of WB and the Rohingyas and radical islamic jihad will try infiltration in droves into India. This would be an untenable situation and India has to act promptly. This time it should be a total rump state of BD and action should be very decisive.

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S_Madhukar wrote: 08 Aug 2024 07:58 on a side note, why are we not taking advantage of this situation...every time a western index talks about hooman rights we should send them a boatful of the diverse momeen talent around us. Just like Turkey and then ask for $$ to improve Navy/CG etc... only real western democracies can handle them ... beyond us now!
Russia & Turkey did that with Syrian & Afghan refugees. sending them to Europe.
As soon as Finland joined NATO, Russia began sending foreign refugees there.
Note that EU fines the pro-Russia Hungary for its anti-refugee policy, but same EU turns a blind eye to Finland rejecting refugees.
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Kakkaji wrote: 08 Aug 2024 03:26 It doesn’t make sense to me why the US will involve itself in installing a hard-line Islamic government. To me, it seems like a China-Pakistan conspiracy
Kakkaji
Many posters have weighed in on this comment with very reasoned arguments including SSridhar who as usual was to the point. I want to add my two bits worth as well. The US has a tendency to act what they think is in their immediate interests and not take look at the long term consequences which may be far more inimical to their interests. Whether this is a recent trait or part of their collective psyche, I am not very sure. I rather think it is the latter. Recall the Lyndon Johnson's comment: The Americans can't chew gum and take a 'leak' at the same time. In Iran, US overthrew Mossadegh because he was becoming too uppity (in their opinion) and installed Shah Reza Pahlavi as the ruler. They thought he would be pliant. Their assumptions proved too facilities after two successive rounds of 'oil shocks' in 1973 and 1979 with the Shah drumming up support for these moves. So the Shah was overthrown and in came Ayatollah Khomeni. They thought he would be content with bringing Shariah law and put women behind a burqa. But what they got was a nuclear armed Iran whose successors are a greater threat to US interests in the region.
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Kakkaji wrote: 08 Aug 2024 03:26 It doesn’t make sense to me why the US will involve itself in installing a hard-line Islamic government. To me, it seems like a China-Pakistan conspiracy
Why did US overthrow Imran to bring back military/ISI with its jihadi links?

Why did US support AfPak jihadis?

Why did US support Islamist uprising against Assad regime in Syria?

Because US cycles through its bag of tricks, just like Pak army cycles through political parties.

"Which trick has been out of use the longest, since it last burned us? Oh, jihad trick has been out of use for awhile, since we got burned by 9/11 - but that was awhile ago - time to bring it back"

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Such are the ways of empire.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Lu

With his Chinese heritage Lu is potentially a Chinese Asset also. There have been reports that the Democratic Party of USA being funded by CPC and this may be their way of paying the piper.
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Don't bring CCP into purely a US operation. They are doing things hoping that it will benefit them. But it will not.

Remember that Modi went out of his way to get a sit down meeting between Biden and Sheikh Hasina during the G20. The US responded by interference in BD elections and then declaring those elections not free and fair.

So there was an inkling of what was about to happen. However, the blood shed post the quota judgement was a step too far.

The question is, why the USA thinks that a Jihadi government in Bangladesh is in it's interests.
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All the US based Churches in North East and US thrusts in the area all seem to be coming together. Manipur unrest and overall NE "alienation" all seem to make sense now. A Burma and BD based xian country isnt the end of it, all of NE is going to be gunning for it. A Major win for the Germanic tribes before Trump comes in. A phyrric victory nonetheless.
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Will BD Islamists agree with a division of the country? When they can convert the population to Islam instead.
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Pratyush wrote: 08 Aug 2024 17:33 The question is, why the USA thinks that a Jihadi government in Bangladesh is in it's interests.
As I've answered above, the US has gone back to its Cold War tricks - including jihadis.
9/11 and the War on Terror were post-ColdWar.
Now the US has gone back to ColdWar, and so jihadis are in season again.

This is all thanks to the NeoCons.
But while NeoCons think they can cycle back to ColdWar alliances, nobody told the jihadis - who still hate the West.

Therefore NeoCon policymakers won't be able to manage all these conflicting realities simultaneously.

NeoCons have gotten the stupid idea that they can/should trigger as many conflicts as possible at once.
But there's no way they can manage all these conflicts at once. That's just nutty, stupid, and headstrong.
Therefore they'll inevitably lose.
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Role of external players in BD / Maj Gen R Narayanan / Sanjay Dixit / Lt Gen P R Shankar

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sanman wrote: 08 Aug 2024 19:20
Pratyush wrote: 08 Aug 2024 17:33 The question is, why the USA thinks that a Jihadi government in Bangladesh is in it's interests.
As I've answered above, the US has gone back to its Cold War tricks - including jihadis.
9/11 and the War on Terror were post-ColdWar.
Now the US has gone back to ColdWar, and so jihadis are in season again.

This is all thanks to the NeoCons.
But while NeoCons think they can cycle back to ColdWar alliances, nobody told the jihadis - who still hate the West.

Therefore NeoCon policymakers won't be able to manage all these conflicting realities simultaneously.

NeoCons have gotten the stupid idea that they can/should trigger as many conflicts as possible at once.
But there's no way they can manage all these conflicts at once. That's just nutty, stupid, and headstrong.
Therefore they'll inevitably lose.
These are not just the neocons, but the neoliberals, like Kamala Harris & Obama, who form the deep state.
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Mort Walker wrote: 08 Aug 2024 22:31 These are not just the neocons, but the neoliberals, like Kamala Harris & Obama, who form the deep state.
I agree that they have their tentacles in both parties. But they're still a single entity/network working for the same cause.

Note that some like Victoria Nuland have worked in both Republican and Democrat whitehouses.
She was NSA for Bush-Cheney whitehouse, where she helped orchestrate the illegal invasion of Iraq and elimination of Saddam.
She then worked under Obama whitehouse, where she orchestrated overthrow & elimination of Qadafi, as well as campaign to overthrow Syria's Assad, and overthrow of Ukraine's Yanuckovitch (Hasina of Ukraine)
She was excluded from Trump whitehouse.
But she came back again under Biden whitehouse, where she's spearheaded the war on Russia, and side-enablers like removal of Imran Khan.
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^^^Agree. It is this entity of the deep state that exploited the weakness of the Sheikh Hasina government & helped bring it down. Yonus is probably looking for $$$ much like many other leaders in history. Note that the Biden-Harris administration is painfully silent about the mass murder of Hindus in Bangladesh.
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These labels like NeoCON, NeoLIB are temporary and based on nations. The Deep State is really a "Crown Council" which operates globally, wealthy individuals who made money initially from the Colonial past (including the loot from Bharat) and today control vast wealth not tabulated in usual wealth metrics like Forbes etc. The new wealthy ones are lured into the system by devious means like Bill Gates, Narayan Murthy, etc. They control around 300 T of wealth worldwide. They have fangs into almost all nations. They have access to latest data, research, strategic material, thinktanks, media, etc. Key people in administration are embedded and one would never know these critters work for them. CIA, FBI, Judiciary, US Govt Officials are filled with these critters, many of them with crucial decision making authority. Nuland is one of the well known ones. But when a decision is made at the top then execution happens very smoothly. BD is a good example of how such execution down to minute levels is done in clockwork fashion. There is complete ruthlessness, cold hearted execution and they don't care for world opinion, if any.
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The best part is your pay and perks are not reliant on your official government job. Your govt job is your branding and then Sorrows ecosystem will place you any which way in a high pay high visibility job. People in the west starting with EU are slowly understanding why their MPs don’t care about them
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In YT of "Role of external players in BD / Maj Gen R Narayanan / Sanjay Dixit / Lt Gen P R Shankar "

Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan and Lt Gen P R Shankar have some nuggets of information that is mind blowing. Please take a closer look at what they are saying. The ISIS gang, Clinton foundation/Sorass too, Yunus mia and his Ponzi Grameen scheme plus his stated goal of becoming dictator of BD, the St Martin island and more. I will summarize these points later.
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If anyone still has doubts about the origins of todays beedi fiasco

no prizes for guessing which poisonous snake has recently taken up permanent residence in beediland

And, the old coot is not only venomous but is also really bad news for India



Wikileaks Leaked Cable from 2007 on Dr. Muhammad Yunus, the head of Bangladesh Interim Govt meeting US Consul General to express strong interest to enter politics.



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Selection of Economists/bankers as puppet heads of state, not surprised. Boringly repeating pattern. You don't have to go as far as Wikileaks. Muhammad Yunus of Bangladesh will handover the keys of the government to foreign agents, just as Javier Milei of Argentina has done. Populist Lula da Silva of Brazil was pulled out of jail (on corruption charges, with a strong support from World Bank) to replace Jair Bolsonaro. Name of one more brilliant economist comes to mind, he is known by a code name Maun-mohan or something :D
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That cable seems promising if the country opens up without limiting investment from India, and with appropriate protection of property rights.
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Rona dhona, every little mosquito shows middle finger to India and all we do is seethe every time.
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Take at look at this :mrgreen:



Jon Danilowicz, former deputy chief of the US Mission to Bangladesh between 2012 and 2014.


his masters have primed and pointed him in a specific direction



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chanakyaa wrote: 09 Aug 2024 06:38 Selection of Economists/bankers as puppet heads of state, not surprised. Boringly repeating pattern. You don't have to go as far as Wikileaks. Muhammad Yunus of Bangladesh will handover the keys of the government to foreign agents, just as Javier Milei of Argentina has done. Populist Lula da Silva of Brazil was pulled out of jail (on corruption charges, with a strong support from World Bank) to replace Jair Bolsonaro. Name of one more brilliant economist comes to mind, he is known by a code name Maun-mohan or something :D
Muhammad Yunus is Manmohan Singh of Bangladesh
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sanjayc wrote: 09 Aug 2024 08:26
chanakyaa wrote: 09 Aug 2024 06:38 Selection of Economists/bankers as puppet heads of state, not surprised. Boringly repeating pattern. You don't have to go as far as Wikileaks. Muhammad Yunus of Bangladesh will handover the keys of the government to foreign agents, just as Javier Milei of Argentina has done. Populist Lula da Silva of Brazil was pulled out of jail (on corruption charges, with a strong support from World Bank) to replace Jair Bolsonaro. Name of one more brilliant economist comes to mind, he is known by a code name Maun-mohan or something :D
Muhammad Yunus is Manmohan Singh of Bangladesh
I disagree. He was not parachuted into his position. He had extensive experience working in govt and as finance minister. Whatever you might think, PVNR was not a pushover
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As promised here is the Summary of YT of "Role of external players in BD / Maj Gen R Narayanan / Sanjay Dixit / Lt Gen P R Shankar "

1. 3 major players who are Anti Indian in various shades - Pukes, Cheen and USA. Pukes with ISI are the last mile execution team for goondagiri. The ISI Pukes may have done a Double paisa vasool from Cheen and US for the same job. BD's JUML jamait ul muslim league is effectively a front for ISIS. BD's Communist part called some worker party has close tie up with Cheen and some major Cheen dude visited BD during June. The overthrow of BD's SH is a triple play, Cheen obliging USA deep state operatives and Pukes doing the dirty work on the ground.

2. There is a BD dude, hindu, initially called Sajit Chandra Debna who converted to aka Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki. He went to Japan and studied there at Ritsumeikan Asia Pacific University, Japan. He imported radical BD dudes and brought them over via Japan, Turkey to ISIS in Iraq, Syria. Lucrative man power trade. In 2014-15 timeframe he went to ISIS in Iraq/Syria. He was monitored by the US and in 2019 he surrendered to the US, escaped Guantanamo Bay and become a key US asset. He became close to the Democratic liberals of the US.

3. Rajiv Narayanan in 93-94 as part of training visited BD and was at St. Martin Island. He took a photo of a chinese radar at St. Martin that was embedded in a tree cutting, so that it was not visible by normal far shot photo. The USA asked BD in 2010 for St. Martin island for housing the 1st fleet and within distance of Cheen and of course India too.

4. Yunus of Grameen was a con artist who gave usurious shark loan rates to women in villages. Apparently it takes 4 women to complain against a man in Islam. Yunus embezzled a lot of money. He was being propped up in the West as saviour of women and saviour of poverty in BD. He was involved in Grameen Telephone. Along with Clinton and SoreAss he laundered money and as acknowledgement they gave him Deep States' Nobel Prize. Yunus was key donor to the Clinton foundation. In 2007-2008 he wanted to be in politics and he point blankly wanted power without the two ladies - khaleda zia and sheikh hasina. India has to brace for complete Anti India agenda. China will weasel its way into the region in full force. They want to relocate manufacturing into neighboring countries and continue with world trade to EU and US. However like Maldives, Yunus will have to look at trade, commerce and other factors with India.

5. In 2009 the 6th para of India was on the ready during a coup attempt on SH. Recently, IAF Rafale escorted SH to Hindon airport. Finland has given visa for SH. We don't know whether SH will be India or move on.

6. BD textile is in the process of moving to India into TN, Bihar. Already South Assam is muslim dominant. Siliguri has complete BD settlement. Manipur will be affected. Bharat will be facing a crisis - Demographic issue, ethnic issue, radical Islamic jihad infiltration and much more. Currently opposition parties are with BJP on BD issue, could change tomorrow.

7. Maj Gen R. Narayanan wants India to take out Rangpur and solve the chicken neck issue. Another prime area he mentioned is Chittagong. India should have done this in 1971 war settlement with BD.

8. It will be interesting what the Deep State has up its sleeve for the next moves in BD.
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Just a note on the Deep State which has around 300 T of wealth worldwide not published anywhere. The dynamics of huge money play needs to be comprehended very clearly. With that kind of wealth, say they get 5% return after tax etc, would mean 15T revenue and spending say 100-200 B of 15 T is nothing for them. But that amount can cause disruption across the globe and gives them tight control on matters. Russia has them stumped! The US has 35 T in debt, and the deep state is no way concerned about it because they can swat it out in a jiffy. Of course they will shaft the US public and get maximum return out of the debt. If you give the Deep State assured returns of say around 10 % they willing will invest their Ts into the economy. China did that and pegged the currency closely with the dollar. Sub kush hua. Now that the deep state has turned table with China, they are looking for a similar deal elsewhere, to park their Ts into a growing economy. This is where they can reap returns commensurate to their investments. A pliable India is what they are after and with budgets in the Bs they can get away with all kinds of tricks.
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https://theprint.in/opinion/we-need-nob ... y/2209847/

Published on 6th August 2024.
We need Nobel laureate Muhammad Yunus and his ideas today more than ever—Narayana Murthy
This article was published on 6th August.

It was amazing to note the slobbering endorsement of Yunus. Barely 24 hours after the resignation of the duly elected PM of Bangladesh.

That is an evidence of the deep tentacles of the US SD all over the coup in Bangladesh.
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sanjayc wrote: 09 Aug 2024 08:26 Muhammad Yunus is Manmohan Singh of Bangladesh
Manmohan had actual understanding of economics, even though he was Sonia's meek puppet.

Yunus is Joe Biden of Bangladesh.
At 84 he's even older than Biden, but he has no experience in governance.
Shows what a bunch of idiots the students are, hoping that an old man in decline with no governing experience can save them.
Like most dumb student activists, their dreams will receive a rude awakening.
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pravula wrote: 09 Aug 2024 08:54
sanjayc wrote: 09 Aug 2024 08:26
Muhammad Yunus is Manmohan Singh of Bangladesh
I disagree. He was not parachuted into his position. He had extensive experience working in govt and as finance minister. Whatever you might think, PVNR was not a pushover



pravula ji,

No one disputes the fact that PVNR was not a pushover, but above all, he was a realist and very practical in realpolitik terms

The fact is that raincoat (as FM) was an external imposition done on India by powerful international financial agencies as part of their conditions for giving India an emergency loan of $2.2 billion from the International Monetary Fund whereby India pledged 67 tons of her gold reserves as collateral security.

raincoat always had the mentality of an employee, risk averse, and trained to follow orders like the babooze he always was. The movers and shakers are always the owners, who, at times are willing to risk it all and bet the farm. and PVNR had both qualities necessary, the intellectual heft, as well as, the political savvy to effectively manage an unruly minority govt and greedy allies. raincoat was paki friendly, something which is a huge plus point, both with the BIF, and the eyetaalian mafia

yunus, as a contrast, is a punccherwalla snake oil salesman, with an oily and ingratiating pasted on smile, looking out for the main chance, something which, he may have found at last.

one anticipates that he will soon appear in India on a "state visit", to peddle that very snake oil, and to get Modi ji to keep the aid pipeline open, and the Indian largesse flowing.
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chetak wrote: 09 Aug 2024 11:10 ....

The fact is that raincoat (as FM) was an external imposition done on India by powerful international financial agencies as part of their conditions for giving India an emergency loan of $2.2 billion from the International Monetary Fund whereby India pledged 67 tons of her gold reserves as collateral security.

raincoat always had the mentality of an employee, risk averse, and trained to follow orders like the babooze he always was. The movers and shakers are always the owners, who, at times are willing to risk it all and bet the farm. and PVNR had both qualities necessary, the intellectual heft, as well as, the political savvy to effectively manage an unruly minority govt and greedy allies. raincoat was paki friendly, something which is a huge plus point, both with the BIF, and the eyetaalian mafia...
+1 Well pointed out Chetak ji.

Before being appointed (or imposed) as the FM, Mr. Singh was head of several critical posts like Chief Economic Advisor, Head of Planning Commission. Why couldn't he prevent India from slipping down into a financial emergency?
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sanman wrote: 09 Aug 2024 11:01
sanjayc wrote: 09 Aug 2024 08:26 Muhammad Yunus is Manmohan Singh of Bangladesh
Manmohan had actual understanding of economics, even though he was Sonia's meek puppet.

Yunus is Joe Biden of Bangladesh.
At 84 he's even older than Biden, but he has no experience in governance.
Shows what a bunch of idiots the students are, hoping that an old man in decline with no governing experience can save them.
Like most dumb student activists, their dreams will receive a rude awakening.

sanman Ji,


Don't fall for that hoary old chestnut about "students" being the drivers of change

they are in actual fact, the driven flocks of sheep, easy to point in any direction and and they always look to the shepherd to lead them

"students" are a false narrative, being propped up solely to shield the shepherds and disguise the real agenda of these snakes and sharks

To blame the "mobs" is a normal jihadi strategy because "mobs" are without brain and by definition given to loot, pillage, rape, and violence

and, job done they simply dissolve into the thin air leaving no trace behind, until the next time, when they once again conjured up, out of the thin air

This is an age old tactic, since refined by commie and jihadi "leaders" deployed from times immemorial.

Look how it worked out during the french revolution
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sanman wrote: 09 Aug 2024 11:01 ...
Shows what a bunch of idiots the students are, hoping that an old man in decline with no governing experience can save them.
Like most dumb student activists, their dreams will receive a rude awakening.
Was it a demand of the students that M Yunus be made to take charge?

This looks like the good old Paki style army coup... done on behest of and with blessings of Khan. Aim is to cut Indian influence first and then India itself.
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sanman wrote: 09 Aug 2024 11:01
sanjayc wrote: 09 Aug 2024 08:26 Muhammad Yunus is Manmohan Singh of Bangladesh
Manmohan had actual understanding of economics, even though he was Sonia's meek puppet.

Yunus is Joe Biden of Bangladesh.
At 84 he's even older than Biden, but he has no experience in governance.
Shows what a bunch of idiots the students are, hoping that an old man in decline with no governing experience can save them.
Like most dumb student activists, their dreams will receive a rude awakening.
Sanman, good observation. But his planting was a long term project. BD as a country of perennial bad news, went crazy the day he got awarded the Nobel Prize in 2006. I remember like it was an undeclared public holiday. Though offices were open, no one worked.

Next year before the election, when the army was takking over, he floated the idea that he would form an independent party. It was a pseudo -election for legitimacy- He asked people to send him SMSes to show their support. It fizzled out.

The stage was set. I think that this time also, the idea was planted among the student leaders, and then given support from outside.

All I will say is that I wish BD all the best. May they live in interesting times.
chetak wrote: 09 Aug 2024 12:54 sanman Ji,
Don't fall for that hoary old chestnut about "students" being the drivers of change they are in actual fact, the driven flocks of sheep, easy to point in any direction and and they always look to the shepherd to lead them "students" are a false narrative, being propped up solely to shield the shepherds and disguise the real agenda of these snakes and sharks To blame the "mobs" is a normal jihadi strategy because "mobs" are without brain and by definition given to loot, pillage, rape, and violence and, job done they simply dissolve into the thin air leaving no trace behind, until the next time, when they once again conjured up, out of the thin air This is an age old tactic, since refined by commie and jihadi "leaders" deployed from times immemorial. Look how it worked out during the french revolution
- Satya vachan Chetakji.
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Manish_P wrote: 09 Aug 2024 12:43

+1 Well pointed out Chetak ji.

Before being appointed (or imposed) as the FM, Mr. Singh was head of several critical posts like Chief Economic Advisor, Head of Planning Commission. Why couldn't he prevent India from slipping down into a financial emergency?
Sir ji, how could he? After all he was a sarkari babu. The first right to all the resources of the country belonged to one profligate, socialist preaching, family run enterprise that perpetuated the license and rent seeking raj who was his real boss.
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