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NO! There is a sickness in this country... Rest of the comment is likely out of bounds for this thread, so will leave it there.
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chetak wrote: 09 Sep 2024 12:23 <snip>
Apparently, the guy who voiced Darth Vader has just died (the famous actor James Earl Jones). Sign of the times.

Is there some bigger game happening here?
US has hit us with Dhaka coup to keep us tied down.
Simultaneously, Asim Munir in Pak is busy arresting various rivals in a massive purge to greatly tighten his grip.

Are both of these things happening together because Washington (or rather its ruling lobbies) are trying to make space for an operation against Iran via Balochistan?
Israel has been trying its best to provoke Iran into a war, first with Damascus consulate attack then with Haniyeh assassination in Tehran.
Iran has avoided taking the bait thusfar - but that won't stop the Israelis - they want that war badly, to get US to fight it for them and permanently eliminate their Iranian enemy.

Are the NeoCons looking at Pakistani Balochistan as the next big way to stage an all-out war against Iran?
Remember, the NeoCons have the most latitude of action via these shadowy covert ops which they use for regime change, etc.
The November US election isn't far away, and that could see them lose power. So they may feel a time pressure to at least get a war started, in order to present a new Trump admin with a fait d'accompli.
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From Meta AI,
There are approximately 11-12 million unauthorized immigrants living in the United States ¹ ². These individuals are also known as undocumented immigrants, as they have entered the country without proper documentation or have overstayed their visas ³.
Two links given below,
1.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/un ... n/state/US

2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_i ... ted_States

Elon Musk comments on the issue in X,

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/183334921 ... iQkZQ&s=19
The publicly-stated goal by almost all leaders of the Democratic Party is to legalize the ~15 million illegal migrants as soon as possible, as well as bring in tens of millions more.

That would immediately make all swing states deep blue, just like happened in California with the 1986 amnesty, turning America into a permanent one-party state.

This is the last real election if Trump loses.
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apparently the Kamala Devi Goti for greencard yojana is in works.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... d-migrants
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^^AFAIK the states that most of these so called illegal immigrants are living are already DEEP BLUE (like CA, NY, NJ or IL). They may become DEEPEST blue, if they are granted citizenship, but that will NOT change anything. What will happen is they will put more pressure on housing, healthcare, education etc., in these states.
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The doofus doesn't know what a "Tariff" is and who pays for it... Everything will be paid by tariffs! Other countries will pay for tariffs?!? WTF! NYtimes is sane washing his rubbish...

Childcare if at all through tariffs? So tax the American people to pay the people? LOOOOL
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If Chinese imports are taxed 60%, Dollar Stores will become TWO Dollar Stores.
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saip wrote: 10 Sep 2024 23:44 If Chinese imports are taxed 60%, Dollar Stores will become TWO Dollar Stores.
:rotfl: That will go well with the dollar store regulars! I am hearing 300%-500% tariff to reduce deficit!

Mexico has still to pay for any wall...
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saip wrote: 10 Sep 2024 21:16 ^^AFAIK the states that most of these so called illegal immigrants are living are already DEEP BLUE (like CA, NY, NJ or IL). They may become DEEPEST blue, if they are granted citizenship, but that will NOT change anything. What will happen is they will put more pressure on housing, healthcare, education etc., in these states.
IL and NY have a lot of sparsely populated land - downstate IL and upstate NY. CA not that much - livable land I mean. NJ is quite dense. So the problem will happen only in the big cities of Chicago metro, NYC tristate, and CA SF/LA/SD. Unfortunately the whole state of IL or NY gets penalized fore the excesses of these big city mayors and their policies. It is not stable situation. People are ready to wrest the control back.
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Cybaru wrote: 11 Sep 2024 02:48
saip wrote: 10 Sep 2024 23:44 If Chinese imports are taxed 60%, Dollar Stores will become TWO Dollar Stores.
:rotfl: That will go well with the dollar store regulars! I am hearing 300%-500% tariff to reduce deficit!

Mexico has still to pay for any wall...
The "economic plans" of Trump are nearly the same as what he said in 2016 and never delivered. Of course, these plans made no sense at all in the first place.

The latest: https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/1 ... 25460.html

He believes that countries that want to move away from the dollar will stop their efforts if intimidated by his tariffs (I posted earlier on the results of such dramatics during 2016-2020). That is obvious insanity. The effect will be the reverse, i.e. accelerate the shift away from the dollar.

Trump's own business career has been a very mediocre one, with a string of losses and bankruptcies. He created no new industry, made no new products/innovations, and treated his employees like trash (intimidation, racism, harassment, bullying, etc). Yet his ego led him to overstate the value of his "brand", leading finally to a $364M financial penalty: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/j ... fraud-case

If he loses this election, there is a good chance he and his family will go bankrupt in a few years. Hence the intense desire to fight another election with all family members on board, to get another shot at family corruption and to recoup losses. Fascinating how similar this is to the family corruption parties in Indian democracy.

He may have hoodwinked a lot of people in 2016 (including myself, I must say) - but in 2020 (and this time) the reception has been much more lukewarm. That said, the race is still tight and we have to wait and see.

On the other side, Kamaladevi's plan to build affordable housing is a good one. A few other things in her economic plan are also reasonable - nothing spectacular. But they are clearly articulated, do-able, and will make some impact - not just bumbling claims that "the money coming from tariffs will blow everything else out of the water, we'll have everything we need...its all going to be beautiful, just beautiful".

Neither candidate is addressing the fundamental flaws is the US system - such as winding down the defense budget and closing the "global dominance" overreaches.
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On the other side, Kamaladevi's plan to build affordable housing is a good one
:rotfl: The exact opposite will happen. There will be flight of capital. Anytime government intervenes in an industry that's just disaster in waiting.

Komali Devi has no understanding of real estate market and how it works. She is regurgitating talking points taught by a lobbyist.
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Well, this is a tough one.
I am selling one of our homes, and would like to get my hands on increase in prices that will be afforded by the KH funded downpayment.

Although this election is comic. One would think the coyotes do a fairly good job of keeping the pet population under control without foreigners having anything to do with it.
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mappunni wrote: 11 Sep 2024 08:13
On the other side, Kamaladevi's plan to build affordable housing is a good one
:rotfl: The exact opposite will happen. There will be flight of capital. Anytime government intervenes in an industry that's just disaster in waiting.

Komali Devi has no understanding of real estate market and how it works. She is regurgitating talking points taught by a lobbyist.
We had this 150k to first time and first generation home buyers in CA. The window is closed now. What effect did it have?
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vera_k wrote: 11 Sep 2024 08:38 Well, this is a tough one.
I am selling one of our homes, and would like to get my hands on increase in prices that will be afforded by the KH funded downpayment.

Although this election is comic. One would think the coyotes do a fairly good job of keeping the pet population under control without foreigners having anything to do with it.
These days the coyotes focus on raking in as much cash as possible from human-trafficking.
Election won't feel very comic if Kamala wins. We'll all be on a path to WW3.

Behaviour of "moderators" in tonight's presidential debate was abysmal. Lefty media leaning hard into their biases.

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Watched Debate. Three v/s one event. She was not challenged on her policies or record, not even fact-checked once. She went on to make funny faces most of the time. I think her funny faces will defeat her. That and her laughter. I have never seen more put-off things in my life.
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After watching yesterday's abysmal debate, anyone for Vivek+Tulsi?
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Too late. That said, they probably will be taken into the cabinet, only if Trump wins.
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The funny thing about yesterday's debate was that frozen faced ABC moderator dude started quoting some Chicago Mayor office that denied that immigrants were eating animal parts of cats/dogs of neighborhood. What do you expect the mayor office babus to admit? Hilarious crap. Cackling Mami was put in charge of the border and she allowed 20+ million illegals into US, every major city is filled with these critters, crowding out popular areas with begging, dole outs. What a f'ing mess to an orderly first rate nation these dumbocrats have turned the US into. Mami kept talking about drugs and fentanyl but what has her four yr rule done about it.

Gehra Rajya is in charge of all illegal activities and is collecting the moolah from their touts who inject criminals from all nations via Mexico. The US is headed into a path of self destruct. The Chinese were previously flooding out the housing sector snapping up expensive homes. Schools are filled with newly minted chinese kids and most of these chinese don't know driving for nuts but have stickers "new driver please be patient" nonsense. Meanwhile, the Chinese elderly are all collecting social security checks. Food and normal consumables are raging at 100% inflation rates, most restaurants are ripping of customers with double rates for normal food items. In Kalifornia gasoline prices are around $5 per gallon, whereas in Indiana it is around $3, what a rip-off a dumbocrat state is charging its consumers. Most services like plumbing, handy man etc have shot up 100% or more in last 1-2 yrs. High tech companies have been on a spree of layoffs in the thousands worldwide, silicon valley has taken a whack in good measure. This is a direct consequence of the hike up in prime rates by FEDs for lending money.
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Today, did Trump compliment Harris? Or another myth?
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Cyrano wrote: 11 Sep 2024 14:18 After watching yesterday's abysmal debate, anyone for Vivek+Tulsi?
While it'll be a sanatani's dream , I very much doubt Vivek+tulsi will ever happen. Same reason why US has not had a jewish potus and probably never will. left or right there will always be bias against the 2 communities. partly because of bigotry. partly because of jealousy.
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saip wrote: 11 Sep 2024 23:46 Today, did Trump compliment Harris? Or another myth?
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Trump is not mean. :P
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gakakkad wrote: 12 Sep 2024 03:04
Cyrano wrote: 11 Sep 2024 14:18 After watching yesterday's abysmal debate, anyone for Vivek+Tulsi?
While it'll be a sanatani's dream ,
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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mappunni wrote: 11 Sep 2024 08:13
On the other side, Kamaladevi's plan to build affordable housing is a good one
:rotfl: The exact opposite will happen. There will be flight of capital. Anytime government intervenes in an industry that's just disaster in waiting.

Komali Devi has no understanding of real estate market and how it works. She is regurgitating talking points taught by a lobbyist.
At the minimum, try to remember to come to the table decently "dressed", rather than people having to see withered unmentionables.

Here are some detailed resources on the plan to help you, then try to produce some intelligible (I'm not even asking for "intelligent" at this point) discussion.

All plans have risks and flaws, but this appears very doable and actually may have an impact. Harris and Walz have done quite a bit of housing policy work in their careers. Criticize the impacts/success/failure of those if you like, otherwise it would look like "maramandan" calling someone "komali". :mrgreen:

The actual plan: https://nhc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024 ... elease.pdf
Analysis from a "non-partisan" housing coalition: https://nhc.org/the-harris-walz-housing ... impactful/

Also, please add a resource detailing Trump's housing plan. Trump is supposed to be a real estate "diggaj" (never mind the regular bankruptcies) but seems to have no plan for something as "simple" as housing.

All I could find is a claim that he will "open up federal lands for low-tax/low-regulation housing projects". I have no idea what that actually means.

Bhaidanwa is already trying to use federal land for housing on a small scale (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... ore-homes/).

I very much doubt there will be anywhere close to enough suitable federal land for viable housing (in the millions-of-houses scale) with access to basic necessities, amenities, and jobs that will help the national housing issues.

At this point I think it a fall back to: "The money from all the tariffs on foreign countries and drill baby drill will be humongous, we'll have everything we need, its going to be beautiful, it will be beautiful".
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Kaartik Gor is predicting another गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya attempt on DJT will be made to knock him out. Come Sept 15 his charts are on the ascendency and this also poses danger to his safety. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya will not stop at anything, they are cold-blooded murderers who will not think twice. That is how they managed to loot many nations including Bharat during BritshitRaj times. They employ every trick in the book to trap you if they don't like you and you are a hindrance to their loot/steal plan. ईश्वर कृपा च प्रार्थना prarthna for DJT. Ukraine will be stopped by DJT and that is not the plan for गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya. गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya includes CIA/FBI/Judiciary गहरा moles who are running the show for कमला and they will game the system to their advantage 100%. Gunda raj and current US rule are no different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o41oNTjq-FM
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Vayutuvan wrote: 12 Sep 2024 08:50 Could y'all go easy on the emojis, please. Purty please. It doesn't become of one who claims to be a tenured professor in the massa lands.
Wow, a prof rolling over the floor (twice) and laughing, that would be a sight to see! As a student I have dreamt about such a sight, never thought it would happen in real.
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bala wrote: 12 Sep 2024 08:53 Kaartik Gor is predicting another गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya attempt on DJT will be made to knock him out. Come Sept 15 his charts are on the ascendency and this also poses danger to his safety. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya will not stop at anything, they are cold-blooded murderers who will not think twice. That is how they managed to loot many nations including Bharat during BritshitRaj times. They employ every trick in the book to trap you if they don't like you and you are a hindrance to their loot/steal plan. ईश्वर कृपा च प्रार्थना prarthna for DJT. Ukraine will be stopped by DJT and that is not the plan for गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya. गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya includes CIA/FBI/Judiciary गहरा moles who are running the show for कमला and they will game the system to their advantage 100%. Gunda raj and current US rule are no different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o41oNTjq-FM
Kya bakwaas hai bhai. When will this stop ?

Given the complete breakdown of any rational discussions on these threads, I hesitate to ask "why JFK was taken out real quick but for some reason DJT (supposedly a huge threat to the deep state) is dragging on and on for years" - because I am likely to get another long post laden with clinically diagnosable drivel.
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KL Dubey wrote: 12 Sep 2024 09:02
Kya bakwaas hai bhai. When will this stop ?

Given the complete breakdown of any rational discussions on these threads, I hesitate to ask "why JFK was taken out real quick but for some reason DJT (supposedly a huge threat to the deep state) is dragging on and on for years" - because I am likely to get another long post laden with clinically diagnosable drivel.
An example of bakwaas on top of being off topic. What does JFK have to do with "Understanding the US - Again", hain praafessar saab?!!!
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bala wrote: 12 Sep 2024 08:53 Kaartik Gor is predicting another गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya attempt on DJT will be made to knock him out. Come Sept 15 his charts are on the ascendency and this also poses danger to his safety. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya will not stop at anything, they are cold-blooded murderers who will not think twice. That is how they managed to loot many nations including Bharat during BritshitRaj times. They employ every trick in the book to trap you if they don't like you and you are a hindrance to their loot/steal plan. ईश्वर कृपा च प्रार्थना prarthna for DJT. Ukraine will be stopped by DJT and that is not the plan for गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya. गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya includes CIA/FBI/Judiciary गहरा moles who are running the show for कमला and they will game the system to their advantage 100%. Gunda raj and current US rule are no different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o41oNTjq-FM
Bala-ji,

Kaartik Gor is a clown. This is the guy who predicted the BJP would get at least 285 seats. He's making money doing YT rounds. I would ignore him and too bad Shree Iyer wasted time.

On another note, Biden was in Shanksville, PA today and he actually does dislike Kamala Harris. Note the photo is not manipulated.

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Indian folks both in the US and outside will pick their sides between Dems and R's but too much closeness to either is a fool's errand.

While the Dems and their state department esque shadowy game of color revolutions and regional conflicts is much known and discussed people are underestimating the sheer racism and vitriol that has started to come out of the Western "wignat/right" for India and Indians and it's only just starting.

https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1834107733194187145

You can cozy up to DJT/Musk for "free speech" but when that free speech is unhighed racism amplified and exposed to millions such as Laura Loomer's comments in the tweet above there is little you can do about it because unlike for African Americans or Muslims there is no mainstream voice to fight for the Hindu & Indian cause.

The Vivek's & Tulsi's of the world can preach whatever they want but unless it translates into any actual support and meaningful legislative action or they can shape their party's outlook for the Hindu cause it's no different from Kamala's "I'm so in touch with my Indian identity " grift
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Not to demean anyone but some of the older folks who came to the US in 80s/early 90s and are more used to the Republicans of the old with fiscal conservatism and support for businesses are not as exposed/blinded to the overt anti Indian racism and hatred that has spread both on social media and in real life among the younger generation.
Most is amplified via wignat podcasts /right wing accounts trying to go viral and has already started to turn into attacks & assaults
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Above is why a back and forth alternating scenario between the two (donkeys and elephants) is better for India. Besides, the issue of a biased media which is completely loony left filled also makes me root for Repubs this time (Komali Devi is indeed dangerous with her wealth redistribution schemes).
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Interesting comments about Repubs vs Dumbocrats. Repubs are not racist as depicted by media. The Dumbs were the original sponsors of KKK KuKluxKlan, hillary clinton admired one of their leaders. The repubs were the first to emancipate the Blacks of America. The major trouble that the US is facing is the assorted collection of wokes, lefties, marxist, islamic faction, CCP sympathizers and others all under the dubious umbrella of Dumbos. There is massive inter clashes amongst themselves, they would double cross any one of the other factions. It is this behaviour which is worrying. You have no clue what they will do and things change on a dime. The Repubs are a known entity - mostly conservative, they have their own faith based rigor, open to suggestions and generally have a decent rulership basis. The Dumbs don't know how to rule a state properly, every dumbo state is a disaster in terms of basic governance. Roads are filled with potholes, fiscally the state is out of whack, all govt services are inefficient, there is more dumber Govt sponsored programs - all of which are a monumental waste (someone surely is benefitting) and don't work properly, massive inflation of consumer products, eg., gasoline price. Every Dumbo El Presidente has shafted India royally compared to the Repub El Presidente. Billy boy Clinton, put strictures on Kargil war and lost evidence that India provided. He sold rocket tech to the Chinese to screw over India. Obummer was a sheer disaster for India. Bidenwa is a mixed bag and the recent BD ousting just proves that the Dumbos are anti-India. This double crossing nature pops up repeatedly with the Dumbs, similar to the CCP behaviour of stabbing you at the back. Bush Jr signed the nuclear deal with India. Nixon was the only anomaly and BD happened. One thing that you can bank on repubs is that they recognize talent, merit and are willing to work with you instead of double crossing you like the dumbs. They know who you are and recognize things, but they don't double cross and stab in the back, maybe directly in the front but not on your back. The Dumbs can't stand for talent and merit, they crave for mediocrity. They are the most devious SOBs you can find on earth.
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KL Dubey wrote: 12 Sep 2024 09:02 Kya bakwaas hai bhai. When will this stop ?

Given the complete breakdown of any rational discussions on these threads, I hesitate to ask "why JFK was taken out real quick but for some reason DJT (supposedly a huge threat to the deep state) is dragging on and on for years" - because I am likely to get another long post laden with clinically diagnosable drivel.
Deep State was less experienced back in those days, and so its methods were cruder and less sophisticated.
Nowadays, they've developed all sorts of tricks and tactics using the media, etc. They got Trump's weakling Attorney General Jeff Sessions to step aside and allow special prosecutor to be appointed to carry out inquisition campaign / fishing expedition against Trump's sitting govt.
They've hit Trump with all sorts of criminal indictments, including rape, etc.
They even tried to get him removed from ballot in certain states.
So they didn't want to resort to murder until all these other tactical options were used up. They now mostly have been - and he's still in the race. So given the high stakes they're still playing for, they may have to try another swing at murder.

Remember the phrase "October Surprise" - in US politics, since November is always the month for US presidential elections, then "October Surprise" refers to any last-minute political stunts or exposés that can be pulled out at the last minute to bring down an opponent.

My mother always used to repeat that old phrase to me: "Power Corrupts, and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely"

America is the most powerful country, so it's guaranteed that it will be the most corrupt country.
Their corruption is mostly just better hidden than ours. It seems to be highly concentrated in the highest corridors of power, among those who are most distant from the middle class.
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bala wrote: 12 Sep 2024 19:33 Interesting comments about Repubs vs Dumbocrats. Repubs are not racist as depicted by media. The Dumbs were the original sponsors of KKK KuKluxKlan, hillary clinton admired one of their leaders. The repubs were the first to emancipate the Blacks of America. The major trouble that the US is facing is the assorted collection of wokes, lefties, marxist, islamic faction, CCP sympathizers and others all under the dubious umbrella of Dumbos. There is massive inter clashes amongst themselves, they would double cross any one of the other factions. It is this behaviour which is worrying. You have no clue what they will do and things change on a dime. The Repubs are a known entity - mostly conservative, they have their own faith based rigor, open to suggestions and generally have a decent rulership basis. The Dumbs don't know how to rule a state properly, every dumbo state is a disaster in terms of basic governance. Roads are filled with potholes, fiscally the state is out of whack, all govt services are inefficient, there is more dumber Govt sponsored programs - all of which are a monumental waste (someone surely is benefitting) and don't work properly, massive inflation of consumer products, eg., gasoline price. Every Dumbo El Presidente has shafted India royally compared to the Repub El Presidente. Billy boy Clinton, put strictures on Kargil war and lost evidence that India provided. He sold rocket tech to the Chinese to screw over India. Obummer was a sheer disaster for India. Bidenwa is a mixed bag and the recent BD ousting just proves that the Dumbos are anti-India. This double crossing nature pops up repeatedly with the Dumbs, similar to the CCP behaviour of stabbing you at the back. Bush Jr signed the nuclear deal with India. Nixon was the only anomaly and BD happened. One thing that you can bank on repubs is that they recognize talent, merit and are willing to work with you instead of double crossing you like the dumbs. They know who you are and recognize things, but they don't double cross and stab in the back, maybe directly in the front but not on your back. The Dumbs can't stand for talent and merit, they crave for mediocrity. They are the most devious SOBs you can find on earth.

Problem is that new re-alignments have occurred.

Welfare State has now gotten into bed with Deep State.

Welfare State is represented by Obama-Biden-Harris Democrats.
Deep State / Security State warmongers are represented by NeoCons (which includes Bush-Cheney and so many others from that admin like Nuland)

Notice how Dick Cheney has now given his endorsement to Kamala.
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A note on Bush Jr and Cheney. The reason why Bush Jr was elected was गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya had their blue-eyed boy called Cheney. Cheney ran Halliburton and was a competent geek who knew the ins-outs of the system. He also had background in Defence and MICs of US. Bush Jr was El Presidente but Cheney ran things perfect for गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya. The गहरा राज्य ensures that they have their man in power at the top. When 9/11 occured and Bush Jr was forced to act Cheney (who is a true blooded NeoCon) made sure that the war machinery is in full gear and they went about worldwide mayhem come what may. Bush Jr had to nod his head for all decisions taken by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya. Bush Jr had a soft corner for Bharat/India, he knew what Papa Bush Sr did with the Chinese, who he disliked deeply.

The Welfare state suits गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya because the China run on cheap labor is over. They have to get cheap labor and illegal immigrations/welfare etc helps things within the US. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is looking for cheap labor elsewhere but every other nation is a headache for them. India suits them fine but one section of गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is for India and the other against it like SoreAss and company who just wedded a jihadi into the family. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya previously looted Bharat via the BritShitRaj reign and the wealth formed the basis of Europe(tards) and US financial clout in subsequent years.

Added Later:
Vivek Ramaswamy Reacts to the Trump-Harris Debate: Will Americans Buy What the Media's Selling?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWUJaSOVn6c

What Vivek is saying is that the June debate and Sept debate were pre-planned this time avoiding the usual time tables for debate. They trial ballooned Bidenwa in June and the results were disastrous and hence gave them time for swap out of Dumbo candidate. Now they went to town criticizing Bidenwa and gained credibility as being fair ie the media chimps. Once credibility was regained they dumbed down the q/a for Kamala and went gung ho on fact checking everything DJT presented, none on Kamala. Clever deception again by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya.

BTW Vivek is calling the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya as a machine/ managerial class instead of Deep Deep State.

QQ: Is it just me or is this a feature. YT play from Repubs which गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya dislikes jacks up the CPU usage on my computer, it is constant whining noise created on my windoze machine. Anyone else facing such problems. Google chacha has put some sinister code into YT replays.
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Yagnasri wrote: 11 Sep 2024 13:45 Watched Debate. Three v/s one event. She was not challenged on her policies or record, not even fact-checked once. She went on to make funny faces most of the time. I think her funny faces will defeat her. That and her laughter. I have never seen more put-off things in my life.
KAMALA HARRIS
Spoke for: 37.1 minutes
Amount of times she spoke: 23

DONALD TRUMP
Spoke for: 41.9 minutes
Amount of times he spoke: 39

What should Kamala been fact checked for?
And what should DJT been fact checked for?

Trying to keep it factual....
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I believe some one complained to JD Vance the Haitians love hot dogs (probably that is the only thing they could afford) and so the price of hot dogs has gone up in Springfield, OH. He heard it as dogs and so spread that rumor. Trump added cats to it. Not his fault. It never is.
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Who got the first and last word in the debate.

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Now Trump says the Hatian immigrants in Springfield, OH are stealing geese from parks. Is nothing sacred anymore?
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