Understanding the US - Again

[Cybaru]

There has been a SECOND ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT against Donald Trump at the Trump International golf course which he frequents.

https://x.com/NYinLA2121/status/1835447820809379846

if you include the debate this is like no. 3 for assassination attempts

[sanman]

https://x.com/RaheemKassam/status/1835440928074736007

The guy who was arrested is Ryan Routh who has deep connections to Ukraine it seems. See the thread

I bet we won't see media talking about any Ukraine connections

Who knows - he may even be a CIA asset

[sanman]

Apparently, Trump was doing some unscheduled golfing with his friend Steve Witkoff, a fellow New York real estate developer.

And yet gunman somehow happened to just be there at the right moment?

Gunman also had a GoPro to record his act.

[Vayutuvan]

https://x.com/NYinLA2121/status/1835447820809379846

if you include the debate this is like no. 3 for assassination attempts

Huh? What is the import of this snippet? Looks like you want to laugh this away as some kind of false flag or exaggeration.

[sanman]

Ryan Routh at time of apprehension



Crazy Eyes:

[sanman]

MSNBC saying Trump should tone down his rhetoric (implying today's incident was Trump's own fault)

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1835422948850647221

[sanman]

https://x.com/RaheemKassam/status/1835440928074736007

The guy who was arrested is Ryan Routh who has deep connections to Ukraine it seems. See the thread

See an actual video from Ryan Routh

[Zynda]

So far the postings on Trump's golf events from a US based liberal forum:
1. The shooter is a white, cis individual...not a black, trans. Probably a deranged & disgruntled Republican voter.
2. I would not be surprised if the whole thing was staged by Trump. Last attempt bumped him a point in the polls...since he is trailing KH (which he cannot digest), desperate attempt to regain some points.
3. No shots were actually fired. Lets not call it as assassination attempt.
4. An individual with this level of criminal history can get access to high powered rifles...only in America. {This part is true though }
5. Elon/Twitter deleted the shooter's account immediately and promptly...to hide the evidence of him being a Republican voter.

No mention of individual sentiments towards Ukraine or any such sort.

[sanman]

Media quickly buried previous assassination attempt -- will they do it again?

[Cyrano]

New event to cover up the whistle blower from MSNBC who revealed how Trump was sandbagged in the debate

[KL Dubey]

So far the postings on Trump's golf events from a US based liberal forum:
1. The shooter is a white, cis individual...not a black, trans. Probably a deranged & disgruntled Republican voter.
2. I would not be surprised if the whole thing was staged by Trump. Last attempt bumped him a point in the polls...since he is trailing KH (which he cannot digest), desperate attempt to regain some points.
3. No shots were actually fired. Lets not call it as assassination attempt.
4. An individual with this level of criminal history can get access to high powered rifles...only in America. {This part is true though }
5. Elon/Twitter deleted the shooter's account immediately and promptly...to hide the evidence of him being a Republican voter.

No mention of individual sentiments towards Ukraine or any such sort.

This is the most detailed MSM article I could find right now on the political background of Ryan Routh:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 13498.html

This guy was a 2016 Trump voter but got disgruntled later (like a lot of people). Also he had hyper-zealous views on the Ukraine war and against Putin (probably got even more enraged by Trump's assertion of letting Putin do whatever the hell he wants).

Like I said before, its scary that citizens are increasingly willing to convert their extreme dislike of a political candidate into actual targeting with weapons - enabled by the proliferation of guns and gun culture. This is a similar mentality as the school shooters/mass shooters.

[vera_k]

No way to find out, but looks like a man who did not vote for Hillary only because she is a woman. Probably feels alien to Indians given long history of female leadership, but there is a deep undercurrent of misogynistic behavior towards female leaders in the USA.

[bala]

People who are disgruntled, hyper-zealous are all Abrahamic traits, we see such behaviour all over the Western world and the middle east. The hyper-zealous part with the US is against some foreign foe in some distant land which happens to be गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya's current foe. Everyone please be understanding that the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya foe is the US foe too and all citizens of the US need to align with this thinking. It happened with Saddam Hussein, Muhamar Gaddafi, etc. The Islamic terrors groups are at one extreme of being disgruntled, hyper-zealous since their kitab says so. Nothing much to be learned other than to deal with them appropriately and correctly. The US however is overun with गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya which has CIA/FBI/Judiciary/State Dept and other assorted babucracy. Notice how these assasination attempts are only on the opposition candidate not aligned with गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya, nothing against the ruling Dumbocrats. I am presuming there are many who are disgruntled hyper-zealous against these floozies too, but they are kept, surprisingly, in check by the CIA/FBI/Judiciary/State Dept. How convenient! No one questions the queen vicky nuland and her hyper-zealous for ever pissed off thinking.

[sanman]

Footage of Ryan Routh's arrest

[Vayutuvan]

No way to find out, but looks like a man who did not vote for Hillary only because she is a woman. Probably feels alien to Indians given long history of female leadership, but there is a deep undercurrent of misogynistic behavior towards female leaders in the USA.

True even in the business world. Probably it is coming from patriarchy of the church.

[Vayutuvan]

So far the postings on Trump's golf events from a US based liberal forum:
1. The shooter is a white, cis individual...not a black, trans. Probably a deranged & disgruntled Republican voter.
2. I would not be surprised if the whole thing was staged by Trump. Last attempt bumped him a point in the polls...since he is trailing KH (which he cannot digest), desperate attempt to regain some points.
3. No shots were actually fired. Lets not call it as assassination attempt.
4. An individual with this level of criminal history can get access to high powered rifles...only in America. {This part is true though }
5. Elon/Twitter deleted the shooter's account immediately and promptly...to hide the evidence of him being a Republican voter.

No mention of individual sentiments towards Ukraine or any such sort.

There are lot of other posts on X from the other side. Cynical Publias, for example. Publius was the nom de plume used by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay for writing The Federalist Papers. All three are considered to be intellectual giants even above Jefferson. Benjamin Franklin is considered a dilettante.

[Vayutuvan]

MSNBC saying Trump should tone down his rhetoric (implying today's incident was Trump's own fault)

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1835422948850647221

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https://x.com/Motabhai012/status/1835559913348845988

Amit Shah (Parody)
@Motabhai012
2.5 minutes of Democrats explicitly calling for using political vioIence.

They own this.

Elon Musk reposted this. It is a video montage of what Democrat leaders said over the past several years.

[Mort Walker]

On another note. Rahul Gandhi is supposed to be meeting with Kamala Harris & Barack Obama. He’s been quiet the last few days. Nefarious US officials meeting with buddhi bhrasht Indians is a bad sign.

[Vayutuvan]

Today a Pakistani fellow had a court appearance for paying hitmen to assassinate high level US officials. Chuck Grassley of Iowa made a public statement that Trump, Biden, and Haley were on the list. Rashid Merchant is a Pakistani born citizen who was living in Iran. He has an Iranian wife with whom he has child. He came from Iran to the US and then met a couple of hitmen. Gave them USD 5K in cash to create protests near a top politician so that USSS detail is distracted so that the hitmen could take out the target. Unfortunately for that for our shittistani, one of the hitmen turned out to be an undercover FBI agent.

[sanman]

Elon Musk reposted this. It is a video montage of what Democrat leaders said over the past several years.

Elon Musk reports that US federal govt is now suddenly putting up obstacles for his rocket testing. They are suddenly insisting on frivolous demands to throw up needless delays. This has started happening all of a sudden -- most likely after he agreed to serve in Trump's cabinet for downsizing bureaucracy and improving efficiency.

[Vayutuvan]

Yes. Something to do with clearance from EPA or some federal agency. India has Green Tribunal.

[sanman]

[sanman]

Trump Assassin's Cellphone Geo-Data Shows He Stayed Near Golf Course for 12 Hours

[Mort Walker]

Yes. Something to do with clearance from EPA or some federal agency. India has Green Tribunal.

The FAA is denying the Environment Assessment to SpaceX at South Padre (Boca Chica) facility in south Texas. This is known as malicious compliance.
https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_e ... x_starship

The FAA is going to have egg on its face as the national airspace infrastructure can't handle air traffic loads and delays this past year have been atrocious. My wife and son were flying from JFK to DFW and were delayed by over 30 hours. They were stuck at the terminal.

Not a word of congratulations from any federal official about the first private spacewalk done by Space X last week.

[vijayk]

So far the postings on Trump's golf events from a US based liberal forum:
1. The shooter is a white, cis individual...not a black, trans. Probably a deranged & disgruntled Republican voter.
2. I would not be surprised if the whole thing was staged by Trump. Last attempt bumped him a point in the polls...since he is trailing KH (which he cannot digest), desperate attempt to regain some points.
3. No shots were actually fired. Lets not call it as assassination attempt.
4. An individual with this level of criminal history can get access to high powered rifles...only in America. {This part is true though }
5. Elon/Twitter deleted the shooter's account immediately and promptly...to hide the evidence of him being a Republican voter.

No mention of individual sentiments towards Ukraine or any such sort.

This is the most detailed MSM article I could find right now on the political background of Ryan Routh:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 13498.html

This guy was a 2016 Trump voter but got disgruntled later (like a lot of people). Also he had hyper-zealous views on the Ukraine war and against Putin (probably got even more enraged by Trump's assertion of letting Putin do whatever the hell he wants).

Like I said before, its scary that citizens are increasingly willing to convert their extreme dislike of a political candidate into actual targeting with weapons - enabled by the proliferation of guns and gun culture. This is a similar mentality as the school shooters/mass shooters.

Most Republican voters before Trump arrived were cold war, jingoistic, war mongering dominate the world types. Always for Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Korea wars and became very pro-war after 9/11. A lot of these guys got reality check during prolonged war of Iraq, Afghanistan and lies of Bush/Cheney.

All Republicans voted for Trump but some of them became Never Trumper for variety of reasons. His moronic talk, 24x7 bragging or self centered promotion but some mainly his no war attitude. Many Republicans were aggressive, pro war and neocon supporters mainly Bush Republicans. They all are anti-Trump now. If Desantis was the candidate, I think he would have easily won but he couldn't get past primaries due to MAGA.

Now neocons are fully integrated with DNC and most Deomcrat base is gung ho on wars, regime changes, MIC as long as it generated billions for their NGOs. So Democrats designed a way. Print Trillions, pass some of it to NGOs for propaganda and identity groups. Just use Putin or Xi or Assad and do 24x7 thru media.

Now you have uni party. Traditional Republicans and Democrats are silent partners.

[Mort Walker]

vijayk-ji,

The good thing is that this uni-party structure is getting good exposure in India. Major Gaurav Arya gave an Indian POV on the 2nd Trump assassination attempt. Worth a watch. This Ryan Routh - bandha Zelinsky ka aadmi hai.

[vijayk]

America is going thru a churn. There is no left or right. Print Trillions and share it among thieves weapons lobbies, Finance lobbies, Pharma lobbies and immigration scam lobbies. At one time it used to be national interest meaning any resource that is important to us has to be ours no matter. Most wars were for resources. Now it is just make millions. Obama is worth $70-100M, Hillary - Billions and even senators like Warren - wealth rose from $3M to 36M in 10 years, Pelosi - Hundreds of Millions. In case of Republicans, it is always Money. They are printing like hell, routing money for wars and making money on arms companies, routing billions to NGOs which bring illegal migrants and settle them in hotels owned by politicians and food companies they own distribute food. It's like full party before the sh1t hits the fan. Pharma/Hospital lobby funds billions to politicians so that they force trans on little kids and make this LGBTQ a major rallying point

[sanman]

No single lobby can dominate. Multiple lobbies have to come together to become a ruling coalition.
In this case, the main dominant lobbies are Welfare State and Security State.
Welfare State are led by Obama Democrats and Security State are led by NeoCons
NeoCons mainly consist of military-industrial complex as well as Israel lobby, and now also the nascent Ukraine lobby - but then there's also a China containment lobby which only has varying degrees of support from the others)


I feel that Asian Americans should get together to form better lobbies -- mainly starting with US higher education system, which heavily discriminates against Asians due to quota raj.
Asian Americans should fund separate schools which don't practice quota-giri, and they should build up powerful endowments for them, which will enable them to self-fund.
Outwardly, they can resort to labels like "Historically Asian Colleges", etc (just as African-Americans and pretenders like Kamala love to tout their "Historically African American Colleges") -- but in practice they would be open to applicants of all ethnicities and background in total disregard to quotas.

[A Deshmukh]

all the issues like women's rights, abortion, LGBTQ, Black Lives, immigration, etc are to keep population distracted, so that ruling cabal (Dems and Reps) can continue their corrupt practices and enrich themselves.
Trump is a maverick and outsider.
In his first term they managed to surround him with establishment people like Pence and cobbled him.
Now he has wisened up to these games.
Lets see what happens.

[sanman]

Strange things about assassination attempt raise troubling questions:

[chetak]

How to throw a nation into chaos and bring about regime change?

Hear it from Voldemort, the master himself, one of the pillars of the US globalist cabal and the Deep State.

Bangladesh was a small example. #Obama



WATCH VIDEO


The video is about 58 seconds long

[KL Dubey]

all the issues like women's rights, abortion, LGBTQ, Black Lives, immigration, etc are to keep population distracted, so that ruling cabal (Dems and Reps) can continue their corrupt practices and enrich themselves.
Now he has wisened up to these games.
Lets see what happens.

Doesn't work like that. Every issue above does matter to a lot of people. This idea that common Americans are collectively stupid/easily fooled is a half-baked one. This is like saying election issues in India - which go by similar names - don't matter and are a distraction.

Like I said before, some people write as though USA is the same country it was in 1900 or even 1975. It's not. It has become much more diverse/heterogeneous and different people are asserting themselves. These simple-minded arguments don't work any more.

Sure, I can certainly believe that politicians want to continue corruption/self-enrichment. Hardly a feature unique to USA. Prior the emergence of Modi sarkar, India too was plain-and-simple a playground for poltoos to enrich themselves and sell out to foreign powers in the process.

Trump is a maverick and outsider. In his first term they managed to surround him with establishment people like Pence and cobbled him.

A lot of people thought that (foolishly) in 2016. In hindsight, he has been an insider to the system all his life, and gaming this system (with help from poltoos and others) to stay afloat in business. In 2016 he extended that to politics. It is pure self-interest and family-interest that drives him. That's just fine in business, but not in public service.

Not sure who is "they" here. Trump had full and free choice of his 2016 cabinet and claimed they were "the best", but they nearly all left him due to the complete chaos and lack of any systematic direction, plus the personal harassment. Now he claims the same people are "the worst". If his judgement as a President is so bad that he mistakenly formed a cabinet of "worst" people, the question arises why anyone should trust his judgement in such a key appointment - and will the fate of any upcoming "the REAL best" 2024 cabinet be the same ?

[Mort Walker]

all the issues like women's rights, abortion, LGBTQ, Black Lives, immigration, etc are to keep population distracted, so that ruling cabal (Dems and Reps) can continue their corrupt practices and enrich themselves.
Now he has wisened up to these games.
Lets see what happens.

It does work like that. Every issue above does matter to a lot of people who have mental illness or are corrupt. This idea that common Americans are collectively stupid/easily fooled is an absolute truth. This is an absolute truth like saying election issues in India don't matter, because caste and freebies are primary concerns over development.

Like I said before, some people write as though USA is the same country it was in 1900 or even 1975. It's not. It has become much more incompetent, corrupt, riddled with gun violence, mental illness and woke ideology where different people are asserting to enrich themselves. These are very simple concepts to grasp and have become self evident to any neutral observer.

Sure, I can certainly believe that politicians want to continue corruption/self-enrichment. Hardly a feature unique to USA, but the level of corruption in the USA is unparalleled to anywhere else in the world. It's on the order of trillions of USD. In India, in the era of the Modi sarkar, most other political parties remain as a plain-and-simple playground for poltoos to enrich themselves and sell out to foreign powers in the process. We see it in Rahul Gandhi meeting with Harris and Obama and we see it in the US regime creating a mess in Bangladesh.

Trump is a maverick and outsider. In his first term they managed to surround him with establishment people like Pence and cobbled him.

A lot of people thought that (foolishly) in 2016. In hindsight, he has been an insider to the system all his life, and gaming this system (with help from poltoos and others) to stay afloat in business. In 2016 he extended that to politics. It is pure self-interest and family-interest that drives him. That's just fine in business and politics because he's doing the same thing the neocons + neolibs have been doing for decades. Case in point, Nancy Pelosi's portfolio is over 45% this year. I wish I could make her trades with DC insider info.

Trump had no choice in his 2016 cabinet since the neocons jumped on board thinking he was a simpleton, and Trump claimed they were "the best", but they nearly all left him because he wouldn't play their world domination game by starting global conflict and wars. Case in point, in June 2019 neocons wanted to start a war with Iran that Trump didn't want. Now he correctly claims the same people are "the worst". If his judgement as a president is spot-on about key cabinet officials, the question arises why anyone should trust his judgement in such a key appointment? The reason is the neocons have been purged by the MAGA movement, which includes ending the Russia-Ukraine war and the administrative state. The knives are out for Trump.

[sanman]

Good talk by Prof John Mearsheimer and Prof Jeffrey Sachs

Watch the whole thing - but please look especially @ 35:47 where they talk about India

[bala]

After Richard Nixon, all republican presidents of the US were not lawyers - George H Bush, George W Bush, D J Trump. The entire crop of Dumbos like B Clinton, Obama, Biden are lawyers and we know that a lawyer is basically a crook more so if in politics. B Clinton cleverly used republican ideas to further his presidency. His rule was okay but he sold out to the chinese lock stock and barrel. Obama and Biden are disasters for the US nation, no one in the world respects their rulership and the US is more or less into self destruct mode. Things like women's rights, abortion, LGBTQ, Black Lives, immigration are pipsqueak issues not worthy of its trumped up importance. BTW, these issues have been sanely solved by other nations in a much better manner. Asian countries have had women PMs heading their nations unlike the US. Blacks are better integrated in Latin American nations than the US.

Currently the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is in complete control of CIA/FBI/Judiciary/SD/US Babucracy. This has to be understood as to how the US operates. All kinds of crazy things happen because alleged people turn coat or some babu suddenly becomes important in terms of the direction that the US takes - eg. Vicky Nuland running the entire Ukraine policy. The US president is like an El Presidente, thinking they are running the show but the Babucracy behind the scenes funded by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is in complete control. None of the decisions are easy because the US Babucracy has a tight grid like control. Then there are lawyers in several depts including CIA/FBI/Judiciary/SD who at the slightest hint will press charges and impeach you.

El Presidente can have the best cabinet but these unelected babus funded by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya will run circles around you. Some of the elected people in the US congress/senate are also on गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya payroll. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya has the entire US media under its belt and they control the narrative anytime. Notice how the recent ABC hosted Presidential debates went one way and was so skewed, it looked ridiculous at times. The El Presidente is manipulated to such an extent that they follow the policy as set by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya, any trip up and they are impeached. All other things are just a distraction to keep the people occupied and away from the main thrust of गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is interested in such topics like immigration because it suits their bigger goals. BTW there are touts who charge immigrants and guess where the loot goes - yes, गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya benefits. The LGBTQ is a sinister plan to ruin the children of the US and also cause chaos in US companies not in गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya control. The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya has many LGBTQ types in charge.

[Vayutuvan]

How to throw a nation into chaos and bring about regime change?

Hear it from Voldemort, the master himself, one of the pillars of the US globalist cabal and the Deep State.

WATCH VIDEO


The video is about 58 seconds long

That clip is taken out of context. He was talking about the strategy employed by the GOP leaders. Dems also do it but that is different matter. He would not be so open about it. He is a very smart (read "cunning" and machiavellian) chappy.

[Suraj]

This website records data on possible, probable and known sundown towns in the US and their history:
https://justice.tougaloo.edu/map/

Quite remarkable how many California had, well into the latter half of the 20th century.

[Manish_P]

..
That mad**chod and State Dept follow same strategy everywhere. Now these Dumbocrats do worse things ... Look at Bangladesh!

They don't care Jihadis take over ... don't care how many killed .. how many raped.
...

The US is kind of an Island... they think they are personally safe from Jihadi blow back as long as Canada and Mexico are not taken over by the RoPers.

Bin laden really shook them to the core but it's been decades since then

[Mort Walker]

This website records data on possible, probable and known sundown towns in the US and their history:
https://justice.tougaloo.edu/map/

Quite remarkable how many California had, well into the latter half of the 20th century.

After the US civil war, integration of blacks had begun, but Woodrow Wilson 1913-1921, a Democrat, imposed many anti-black policies that went forward many years. Including removing key blacks appointed to federal positions hired by previous Republican presidents. Wilson also excluded blacks from federal government civil service. By the 1920s blacks who were making economic progress in the midwest & south were subjected to even more violence culminating with events like the Tulsa race riots.

The US military remained segregated until 1947. Roosevelt in 1936 refused to allow Jesse Owen’s visit the White House after his Olympics gold medal in track & field. Sundown towns across the US remained in place by local ordinances into the late 1960s and later. One has to wonder about the impact of US policies, after social programs enacted in the 1960s, have done to black families that are completed fragmented today.

[sanjaykumar]

Sundown towns are extant.


And by the way, India should do something about its attitude towards dal eaters.