India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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sanman wrote:so naturally they don't give a hoot about China
There is some nuance which needs to be understood, which most people in the world don't get it. The Deep State is into all kinds of illegal activities worldwide. When they saw a population like China they wanted to take advantage and abuse it to the hilt. Labor arbitrage for the companies that they owned was an ideal match. The deep state loves such deals. They got the CCP to round up hapless people from villages and slave drive them into factories that they created. For this they rewarded China with WTO, print as much money as you can and so on. Suddenly the Deep state was at odds with China, since China sided with Russia and also threatened them. Deep state withdrew from China but their investments are still stuck and China is holding the cards. China also is trying to ditch the US dollar hegemony via BRICS. This is causing another wedgie in the collective behinds of the Deep State and they are suddenly trying to work with China for removing their last investment remnants. Many parts and components are still being made in china and are part of the supply chain for factories in Vietnam and Mexico. The Deep state also loves the fact that they could use China to rough up others like India and cocky nations around Asia, e.g. phillippines, indonesia, thailand, BD, myanmar, mongolia, cambodia and so on, the Vietnamese don't care about China, they thrashed them once.

Worldwide the Deep state is into human trafficing, drugs, illicit and gruesome abuse of women/children, slaves and much more. They cheer the fact that Hindu women are abused in BD by jihadi elements and by Puke ISI. The slave traffic from African continent into the Americas initially was controlled by them and they profited hugely. If ever Blacks in Americas need to be upset they should revolt against the Deep State for causing such untold hardship and pain. Even Bharat should remember that the loot of Bharat during BritShitRaj was stashed into Euro & US banks which the Deep State tightly controls.
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bala wrote: 07 Sep 2024 02:07 There is some nuance which needs to be understood, which most people in the world don't get it. The Deep State is into all kinds of illegal activities worldwide. When they saw a population like China they wanted to take advantage and abuse it to the hilt. Labor arbitrage for the companies that they owned was an ideal match. The deep state loves such deals. They got the CCP to round up hapless people from villages and slave drive them into factories that they created. For this they rewarded China with WTO, print as much money as you can and so on. Suddenly the Deep state was at odds with China, since China sided with Russia and also threatened them. Deep state withdrew from China but their investments are still stuck and China is holding the cards. China also is trying to ditch the US dollar hegemony via BRICS. This is causing another wedgie in the collective behinds of the Deep State and they are suddenly trying to work with China for removing their last investment remnants. Many parts and components are still being made in china and are part of the supply chain for factories in Vietnam and Mexico. The Deep state also loves the fact that they could use China to rough up others like India and cocky nations around Asia, e.g. phillippines, indonesia, thailand, BD, myanmar, mongolia, cambodia and so on, the Vietnamese don't care about China, they thrashed them once.

Worldwide the Deep state is into human trafficing, drugs, illicit and gruesome abuse of women/children, slaves and much more. They cheer the fact that Hindu women are abused in BD by jihadi elements and by Puke ISI. The slave traffic from African continent into the Americas initially was controlled by them and they profited hugely. If ever Blacks in Americas need to be upset they should revolt against the Deep State for causing such untold hardship and pain. Even Bharat should remember that the loot of Bharat during BritShitRaj was stashed into Euro & US banks which the Deep State tightly controls.
2 points I must get out before I forget:

- Why is Modi visiting Washington now, instead of waiting until after November elections? If he dialogues with a bunch of people who are on the way out, then wasn't it a waste of time? As I said to user chetak, if Modi is indeed going to Washington now to play his own Garcetti game, and turn the tables on the Biden admin by showing them the mirror and helping out Trump in the bargain, then I must concede that's a pretty gutsy move which I hadn't previously considered.

- Otherwise, if he's not going there to do a Garcetti of his own to repay in the same coin, and is just traveling there to engage official Washington, then who can he usefully engage with? As I've said, Washington is now purely under the control of lobbies (eg. the "donor class")
It's the lobbies who control the politicians & officials - they are the real power - the only meaningful power we can engage with under current circumstances (until and unless Trump comes back and asserts order in the name of national interest)
While Modi could spend his time usefully engaging the Israel lobby, it's a lot harder to engage this newly resurgent Cold War lobby who've returned like a cancer, and need to fight RussiaRussiaRussia once again all the time.
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sanman wrote: 07 Sep 2024 01:29 I agree with him that Washington did Bangla regime change without having a real plan on what to do afterwards - and now it's fumbling around.
SDOTUS did it at the wrong time. Their calculations probably were that Biden would be running. Now it VPOTUS running against Trump, their plans have come to nought. They will let BD be till Jan 6th, 2025. I think. As it is, everything has blown up in their faces in the US presidential elections. Their hands are full.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 07 Sep 2024 05:20 SDOTUS did it at the wrong time. Their calculations probably were that Biden would be running. Now it VPOTUS running against Trump, their plans have come to nought. They will let BD be till Jan 6th, 2025. I think. As it is, everything has blown up in their faces in the US presidential elections. Their hands are full.
I'm not sure what bearing Biden vs Harris running has on Bangla issue.
Are you saying Kamala would go soft on India over Bangla, and that's why regime change plan would come to nought?
I think Kamala is a rubber stamp, like Nikki Haley is.
Kamala is owned by Democrat establishment, and Haley is owned by right-wing NeoCons (altho at least Haley endorsed Trump, instead of remaining a Never-Trumper like Liz Cheney, Romney, etc who've all endorsed Harris)
I don't think either of them had any particular concern for India.
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sanman wrote: 07 Sep 2024 05:06 2 points I must get out before I forget:

- Why is Modi visiting Washington now, instead of waiting until after November elections?

- Otherwise, if he's not going there to do a Garcetti of his own to repay in the same coin, and is just traveling there to engage official Washington, then who can he usefully engage with? As I've said, Washington is now purely under the control of lobbies (eg. the "donor class")
The Business Standard had posted a few days ago this:
The details of the PM’s visit to the US will be finalised once he returns from Singapore, but sources privy to his US itinerary told Business Standard that Modi is unlikely to travel outside New York.

In New York, the PM is scheduled to attend the UN General Assembly (UNGA) and hold bilateral talks with other heads of state. Meetings with top business leaders are also in the works. {There could be a QUAD summit-meet}

Modi is also slated to address the Indian diaspora at an event on September 22 at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, a multi-purpose indoor arena in Uniondale, New York. The arena seats 15,000 people.

Organisers said there is immense interest among the Indian diaspora to attend the “Modi & US Progress Together” event and over 24,000 people have registered. The organisers of the event are trying to bring in well-known artistes to perform at the event.
Stop your broken-record questioning now.
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sanman wrote: 07 Sep 2024 06:33 I'm not sure what bearing Biden vs Harris running has on Bangla issue.
It has something to do with the timing. Not who is running. If you remember what you had been saying (which I also believe in) that the "Deep State" (however you define it, what is generally accepted is that there is a group of entities whose interests are global in scope) members are in both the major political parties of the US, then it doesn't matter who runs or who wins to them. Had they waited a little bit, then they would have had a clearer picture of the shape of the US cabinet, COTUS, and such which lowers the number of variables. It is always better to deal with a system which is in relative stability to pull it to the side you want rather than disturb a system which is unstable. They didn't have to wait too long - just a quarter.

The question is what pushed them to precipitate the situation in BD? As it is they have to deal with Hama-Israel-Campus protests (spinning out of their control now) and Pukraine-Rooskie situation on top of elections that gave them a scare - France and Germany.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 08 Sep 2024 03:30 The question is what pushed them to precipitate the situation in BD? As it is they have to deal with Hama-Israel-Campus protests (spinning out of their control now) and Pukraine-Rooskie situation on top of elections that gave them a scare - France and Germany.
I feel it was due to Modi going to Moscow on the heels of Pelosi visit with Tibetans. They arrogantly felt that they had a right to show up in Dharamsala with us in tow, so that they could posture against China with us as scenery props. And as soon as Modi went to Moscow, they went berserk. ("Those treacherous Indians - what have they done for us lately? Hosting Pelosi in Dharamsala was days ago! Far too long!")

F******* the Americans and their colossal egos, as well as their colossal sense of entitlement.

Washington is currently in the grip of hyper-aggressive hyper-impulsive NeoCons (or whatever you want to call them, since they span across both parties, on both sides of the aisle)
These hyper-impulsive types are hair-triggered. They were so triggered by Modi's Moscow visit that they went to DefCon Zero.
Perhaps if Modi had gone to Kyiv first, and then to Moscow, this might have tempered their response.
But we can't expect that kind of deftness from Modi or his team, since such geopolitical nuances aren't their forté

If this were their forté, then they'd realize that Washington is in the clutches of lobbies who are divorced from US national interest, and would know to cater to the sensitivities of these all-powerful lobbies, rather than naively believing that it's possible to engage with Washington on the basis of shared mutual national interests.
There's nobody in Washington to engage with on the subject of shared mutual national interests in containing China as a common enemy. That's because nobody in Washington gives primacy to that issue, since nobody there gives primacy to US national interests. Instead Washington is only full of people wanting to needlessly create antagonisms with Russia, in a departure from US national interests. And that's because Washington is only full of special interest lobbies.
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sanman wrote: 08 Sep 2024 04:02 ... they went berserk. ("Those treacherous Indians - what have they done for us lately? Hosting Pelosi in Dharamsala was days ago! Far too long!")
Just recently Pelosi quoted in one of the late shows JFK "Ask not what the country can do for you ...". Then she quickly said "Something else comes after that - JFK also followed the above by "Countries should not ask what the global community can do for them but rather how each country can help in making global unity strong (I am paraphrasing here)". It is their thinking that they are the globe. In essence what she seems to be saying is countries of the world should not ask what the US has done for them but ask themselves how they can strengthen the US. She did lot of hand waving like a cavewoman while delivering such a simple message. Dan Quayle is an intellectual giant compared the current set of Democrat intellectuals (putting aside the Clintons and Obama).
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"Silent Modi is Dangerous Modi"

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The continuity of US Ambassador to India, Eric Garcetti, has come under dark clouds after instances of condoning sexual harassment at the workplace, evasion of accountability, and likely perjury to secure his ambassadorship have been alleged by an investigation done by NPR (National Public Radio), a US-based online media platform.



https://californiaglobe.com/fr/eric-gar ... is-career/


Eric Garcetti Perjury: He lied About #MeToo Allegations to Save His Career

The story does carry with it a sense of vindication for those who stood up and told the truth

By Thomas Buckley, September 7, 2024 3:25 am





“Mom, can I have ten bucks to go the movies?”

“And where did your allowance go?”

“Um, well, you know…”

“Mom, can I have $100,000 to be ambassador to India?”

“And where did your moral compass go?”

“Um, well, you know…”

It is a rare thing when the California Globe compliments NPR – a very rare thing.

But credit where credit is due as NPR just took a deep dive into the circumstances surrounding former Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s desperate, almost certainly perjury-filled, effort to deny the existence of the very nasty City Hall sexual harassment and bullying scandal involving his longtime political fixer Rick Jacobs.

NPR looked at hours of video taped depositions involving the legal matters that swirled around the allegations, allegations that resulted in a $1.8 million settlement payout of one of Jacobs’ primary targets

Now, one typically does not have to file public records requests to confirm that 2 + 2 = 4 and news that Garcetti lied under oath does not come as a surprise – at all.

But the story – from one of the most reliably leftist media organizations on the planet – does carry with it a sense of vindication for those who stood up and told the truth (the whistleblowers and, for that matter, the Globe) during Garcetti’s seemingly endless, definitely torturous Senate confirmation process.

“NPR’s in-depth investigation erases any remaining doubt that Eric Garcetti enabled a culture of sexual harassment and intimidation at Los Angeles City Hall and twice lied about it under oath,” said Naomi Seligman, Garcetti’s former communications director and a leading whistleblower. “He should not have been confirmed as U.S. Ambassador to India and is unfit to hold any future public office.”
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Vayutuvan wrote: 08 Sep 2024 04:24 Just recently Pelosi quoted in one of the late shows JFK "Ask not what the country can do for you ...". Then she quickly said "Something else comes after that - JFK also followed the above by "Countries should not ask what the global community can do for them but rather how each country can help in making global unity strong (I am paraphrasing here)". It is their thinking that they are the globe. In essence what she seems to be saying is countries of the world should not ask what the US has done for them but ask themselves how they can strengthen the US. She did lot of hand waving like a cavewoman while delivering such a simple message. Dan Quayle is an intellectual giant compared the current set of Democrat intellectuals (putting aside the Clintons and Obama).
Yes, the current reigning American Lefties aren't the traditional American Lefties. They've simply appropriated the mantle of "liberalism" for themselves. These people like Pelosi, etc are just inheritors of the name, and have forgotten what the name was built on. Just like Mainos (SoGa-RaGa-PriGa) couldn't care less what Nehru, Indira, or even Rajiv wanted. All the traditional ideological institutions of the US are eroding and succumbing to the power of lobbies. The Lefties have simply succumbed first, although the Republican right are gradually following too.

Even media institutions have sold out - but it's gone well beyond that.
Look at the famous ACLU -- they used to staunchly defend free speech for anyone -- even the KKK.
But now where are they? Totally corroded and eroded.
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Karnataka Dy CM DK Shivakumar is leaving for US tonight...supposedly has received an official invitation for meet with Obama & Kamala Harris. Shivakumar has said that his visit to US is on a personal basis and not on professional. Rahul Gandhi is also in US now and so is Kamala Hassan. Sub-nationalism at work...wonder what new ideas and instructions they will get from master of machinations, to manufacture & foster fresh troubles in India. I have my own issues with Modi but one can just imagine the kind of external & internal forces the current GoI has to fight against!
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Zynda wrote: 08 Sep 2024 23:24 Karnataka Dy CM DK Shivakumar is leaving for US tonight...supposedly has received an official invitation for meet with Obama & Kamala Harris. Shivakumar has said that his visit to US is on a personal basis and not on professional. Rahul Gandhi is also in US now and so is Kamala Hassan. Sub-nationalism at work...wonder what new ideas and instructions they will get from master of machinations, to manufacture & foster fresh troubles in India. I have my own issues with Modi but one can just imagine the kind of external & internal forces the current GoI has to fight against!
There's no way that Obama or Kamala can even find Karnataka on a map, let alone know who its Dy CM is.
Deep State has deep knowledge awareness. Obama and Kamala are just figureheads who let themselves be used for Deep State antics.

This is why I feel current ruling coalition in Washington is by and large a marriage of Welfare State (Obama Democrats) and Deep State.
With certain other constituent lobbies along for the ride as matchmakers.
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Whoa dudes. Enough with the deep state already.

It is immaterial. Operationally defined, the POTUS makes the decision. It is irrelevant whether it is the cigarette smoking man or a Jin that provides policy options. Unless one has leverage with the deep state.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 09 Sep 2024 04:08 Whoa dudes. Enough with the deep state already.

It is immaterial. Operationally defined, the POTUS makes the decision. It is irrelevant whether it is the cigarette smoking man or a Jin that provides policy options. Unless one has leverage with the deep state.
Biden is Dhritarashtra and Kamala is Gandhari.
Under their blind gaze, their entire Kaurava clan are running amok.

Any Duryodhan or Shakuni can offer up "policy options" for them to rubber-stamp.

This has led to an unending rut of "forever wars".
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The point is that others eg India have to deal with facts on the ground. Whether put out there by some deep state or by some White House flunky.

The authorship is irrelevant unless the recipients of deep state wisdom have now recourse to some particular field of maneuver that knowledge of a deep state gives them.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 09 Sep 2024 09:28 The point is that others eg India have to deal with facts on the ground. Whether put out there by some deep state or by some White House flunky.

The authorship is irrelevant unless the recipients of deep state wisdom have now recourse to some particular field of maneuver that knowledge of a deep state gives them.
"deal with" -- To deal with the challenges posed by USA's sudden resurgence of Cold Warrior-ism, we have to see where this sudden motivation is coming from.
I'm saying that it's coming from special interest lobbies, and not from any genuine national interest. Therefore we have to contend with these underlying lobbies. We either have to reach an accommodation with those lobbies themselves (lobbies who are divorced from US national interest), or else we have to expose those lobbies to rest of that country, so that the rest of that country can dislodge the grip of the lobbies and re-assert their national interest. Thusfar I don't see any inclination from us to do either.
All I see is some blind instinct to repetitively bleat to official Washington that "fighting us is not in your interest and only helps China, your biggest adversary"

But as I've said, the ascendant lobbies don't care about US national interest, and therefore don't care if their policies end up helping China.
Special interest lobbies, by their very nature, tend to put their own narrow interests first, behaving parasitically at the expense of national interest. We suffer that in our own politics all the time. How odd that we're unable to recognize similar phenomena/behaviour being exhibited by others.
We of all people should be able to recognize it.
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RaGa the crook visits US



Pannu, the US-based Khalistani, is now issuing threats to US Hindus, warning them they should not meet Modi, because "their safety cannot be guaranteed"
Notice that Pannu isn't issuing any such threats to those would meet Rahul Gandhi. I'm sure Pannu himself would be happy to meet Rahul Gandhi.
Then they can all clasp hands and shout Tukde-Tukde slogans together.
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The way I see it, US SD messes with India by provoking regime change in BD, and India gets into the Ukraine war mediation. Tit for tat.

Just one more chess move in a long game...
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Cyrano wrote: 11 Sep 2024 14:58 The way I see it, US SD messes with India by provoking regime change in BD, and India gets into the Ukraine war mediation. Tit for tat.

Just one more chess move in a long game...
But not a powerful punchback. What India needs to do is to create difficulties in Hispaniola for the Amrus. All in good time. We have to bide our time. It will come sooner than later if Harris wins.
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For those who are US citizens: Worth reading and sharing with others .. in full:
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India and Russia have been slowly drifting apart and now their relationship is being tested by a paradox: India’s biggest threat is Russia’s closest partner.

While it is tempting for the U.S. to seek to accelerate this rift, no amount of U.S. pressure will force India to unwind its ties with Russia quicker than it wants to, but the U.S. can make the alternatives more attractive.

There is a long road ahead. Even after 15 years of pretty remarkable progress in India-U.S. relations, New Delhi is not convinced of America’s reliability. An erratic, late 20th century track record of sanctioning India and arming Pakistan is not far from the collective Indian memory.

Neither is the recent wave of attacks by U.S. progressives which have accused the Modi government of being a “fascist” threat to Indian democracy. New Delhi wonders if another wave of sanctions or another pivot to Pakistan might be just around the corner.

Unless those concerns are addressed, India will resist tying its fate too closely to America’s or severing ties with Russia, even as it continues pretty robust tactical cooperation with the U.S. in a large number of areas where interests overlap.

Article link:
Modi Visits Ukraine: Indian “Strategic Autonomy” on Display
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sanman wrote:RaGa the crook visits US
The more pictures of RaGa I see nowadays, I am reminded of a Jihadi from up north-west, with unkempt unshaven, always disheveled look, fleeting eyes (on the lookout with an AK47 cocked to shoot the interviewer) since his upstairs are completely screwed up. गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya has the proper speciman to do "bang bang" upon India.

BTW RaGa has around 100-500 B stashed abroad in Swiss banks and with such a loot he can chill out on a beach and enjoy life Que sara sara. Why the hell is he into politics of India. गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya must have double crossed him and now they have him by the proverbial balls.
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Unless those concerns are addressed, India will resist tying its fate too closely to America’s or severing ties with Russia
Bharat will never sever it's ties to Russia nor will it ever jump into the American camp to become a vassal state of a declining power while we are ourselves on the ascendency.

We will do more of principled realpolitik as long as MAD and SJ are at the helm.

Many in the US SD have begun to realise this hence carrots like ICETS are being offered on one hand and sticks like pakis and BDs are being waved on the other.

In a decade or so Bharat will not need those carrots and it already knows how to deal with those sticks, may even develop a few more of it's own. Garshitty types are dime a dozen, they actually will end up hurting US interests more than their nuisance value to Bharat.
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Isn’t Rahul Gandhi about to redistribute his wealth? As he wants others to do.

I don’t believe any politician anywhere can be that hypocritical. I am awaiting my share.
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Xposting from BD thread
Documents showing how the US engineered regime change in BD in a multi year project just to irk India.

https://sundayguardianlive.com/top-five ... ust-hasina

The same is being attempted since many years against India itself, that's why garshitty is here and brazenly does his subnational engagement
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US doesn't want free speech for anyone but itself

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It is hard to comprehend the absolute cowardice of those who would attack a Hindu temple to air hatred for an elected leader.

This attack, following recent threats at Hindu and Indian institutions, must be seen in the context of that threat scenario.
Gurpatwant Pannun, of “Sikhs for Justice,” recently posted a video threatening Hindu and Indian institutions as the community event approaches. The vandalism is similar to that seen in attacks on temples in New York, California and Canada

The @TheJusticeDept & @DHSgov must investigate this attack on the @BAPS Hindu temple in Melville, NY shared by @OnTheNewsBeat after recent threats to Hindu institutions as a large Indian community gathering is planned in nearby Nassau County this weekend.
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Amber G. wrote: 17 Sep 2024 07:40 It is hard to comprehend the absolute cowardice of those who would attack a Hindu temple to air hatred for an elected leader.
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IMHO It is not hatred of a leader. It is hatred against the religion itself.
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Amber G. wrote: 17 Sep 2024 07:40 It is hard to comprehend the absolute cowardice of those who would attack a Hindu temple to air hatred for an elected leader.

This attack, following recent threats at Hindu and Indian institutions, must be seen in the context of that threat scenario.
Gurpatwant Pannun, of “Sikhs for Justice,” recently posted a video threatening Hindu and Indian institutions as the community event approaches. The vandalism is similar to that seen in attacks on temples in New York, California and Canada

The @TheJusticeDept & @DHSgov must investigate this attack on the @BAPS Hindu temple in Melville, NY shared by @OnTheNewsBeat after recent threats to Hindu institutions as a large Indian community gathering is planned in nearby Nassau County this weekend.
Manish_P wrote: 17 Sep 2024 09:38 IMHO It is not hatred of a leader. It is hatred against the religion itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIhjl5CQoks
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Donald Lu in India again for making trouble.

Meanwhile NaMo in US and will meet another Donald - the Trump :rotfl:
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US interfered in Bharat's Elections! Now it's Bharat's turn & #Modi Sarkar has chosen sides!

US Presidential candidate Donald Trump has declared that he is meeting PM .@narendramodi Ji next week & he is a "fantastic man".

PM is going to US to attend QUAD Summit








but, to be fair, then trump also said:

‘India is a big abuser, it’s very tough’

When asked about international trade, Trump dubbed India “a big abuser” of free trade.

Trump clubbed India with China and Brazil and said these countries were “tough” in dealing with the United States.

Trump said, “Modi is a fantastic man — a lot of these leaders are fantastic. These people are sharpest. They are at the top of their game and they use it against us. India is very tough. Brazil is tough. China is the toughest of them all.”
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Trump is a straightforward crook unlike the Harris-Biden regime & neocons who will spout platitudes, then stab India in the back with fomenting insurrection & overthrowing neighboring countries.

Trade deals with Trump in return for getting US diplomats the hell out of the Indian subcontinent.
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Trump is NOT interested in Cold War 2.0 like Biden-Harris are currently doing in connivance with NeoCons.

It's this recent sudden lurch into Cold War 2.0 which has the US breathing fire against India.
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Mort Walker wrote: 18 Sep 2024 23:36 Trump is a straightforward crook unlike the Harris-Biden regime & neocons who will spout platitudes, then stab India in the back with fomenting insurrection & overthrowing neighboring countries.

Trade deals with Trump in return for getting US diplomats the hell out of the Indian subcontinent.




Mort Walker ji,


trump is all about amrika first and MAGA

Modi ji is all about India first and he also wants to make India great again

The two can coexist without major friction.

of course, some nitpicking will always be there but that is only to be expected with economies of this size

trump will, for obvious reasons, be more than glad to host Modi ji in such a public fashion, and for Modi ji it is payback for the crass display by the amriki diplomutts meddling so openly in India.

Modi ji during this visit, is also to meet elon musk and a "few others" who are not anti India

no other world leader has the testimonials to do all this so openly and all of them know exactly why Modi ji is doing it
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Khalistani Pannu is now suing Indian govt in US court over the death of his associate Nijjar.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.7326149
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Isn't Modi/Trump meet going to pi$$ of Democrats and deep state more?
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vijayk wrote: 19 Sep 2024 06:38 Isn't Modi/Trump meet going to pi$$ of Democrats and deep state more?
yes, but Tit-for-Tat -- they interfered in our elections, which are of paramount importance to us

So they've earned some reciprocity
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sanman wrote: 19 Sep 2024 00:23 Khalistani Pannu is now suing Indian govt in US court over the death of his associate Nijjar.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.7326149
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/gurpatw ... _topscroll

India Gets US Court Summons In Alleged Plot To Murder Khalistani Terrorist

The summons by the US District Court for Southern District of New York names Government of India, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval and former R&AW chief Samant Goel
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sanman wrote: 19 Sep 2024 00:23 Khalistani Pannu is now suing Indian govt in US court over the death of his associate Nijjar.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.7326149
2 can play this game. Bring it on! If the case is not dismissed, then all and sundry can be sued in an Indian court. Think about it, an Indian court, a court that ajourns because the cat need to sneeze and an American NSA asked to appear!
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