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Mort Walker wrote: 20 Sep 2024 03:50 After the US civil war, integration of blacks had begun, but Woodrow Wilson 1913-1921, a Democrat, imposed many anti-black policies that went forward many years. Including removing key blacks appointed to federal positions hired by previous Republican presidents. Wilson also excluded blacks from federal government civil service. By the 1920s blacks who were making economic progress in the midwest & south were subjected to even more violence culminating with events like the Tulsa race riots.

The US military remained segregated until 1947. Roosevelt in 1936 refused to allow Jesse Owen’s visit the White House after his Olympics gold medal in track & field. Sundown towns across the US remained in place by local ordinances into the late 1960s and later. One has to wonder about the impact of US policies, after social programs enacted in the 1960s, have done to black families that are completed fragmented today.
Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were in my opinion among the 2 worst presidents on foreign policy, despite being the 2 most lionized presidents.
Roosevelt backed the Japanese to fight the Russians in the East, and Wilson got the US involved in WW1 in Europe.
Both of these things led to WW2.
Furthermore, Wilson created the US Federal Reserve, which effectively put the US currency under a banking cartel.
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Listen to American redneck military general Ben Hodges, former commander of US forces in Europe

He refers to Russians as "those animals" -- shows you the kind of mentality that exists in the US military, and why it's been so easy for the US to revive their new Cold War against the Russians.

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The Cold War never stopped. The US does not believe in peace. They believe in world domination

You watch any Hollywood movie about Russians in the last 3 decades since the Cold War. They are portrayed as drug-lords, oligarchs, vodka-drinking/failing-liver criminals etc

Elon Musk is an entrepreneur while a Russian startup founder is an oligarh. Musk or Bezos or Zuck are never called oligarchs
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He refers to Russians as "those animals" -- shows you the kind of mentality that exists…
More than the mentality, the choice words reflects frustration. After 65 years, nothing has changed.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-v ... sex-crimes
The Violence Against Women by Illegal Aliens Act passed the House of Representatives along bipartisan lines on Wednesday. All present Republicans voted for the bill, as did 51 Democratic lawmakers. The measure passed 266 to 158.
158 members of the Democratic party voted against the bill to deport illegal immigrants who committed sexual crimes. It looks like they are testing public reaction before fully supporting sex crimes by illegal immigrants in future.

It was suggested in the forum that the pharma/medical lobby is behind the LGBTQ agenda to make money from gender-changing procedures. But it doesn't fully explain the scope of the subject. It is just one of the many self-destructive, anti-Christian agendas in the USA and EU. One wild speculation would be that Islamic countries funding these types of movements to destroy Christian countries.
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https://nypost.com/2024/09/20/us-news/f ... schaeffer/
Feds subpoena NYC Mayor Eric Adams’ head of asylum seeker services Molly Schaeffer

NGOs are making billions. All these contractors to ship migrants to cities and put them there are making billions. Hotels are making billions. SpringFeild, OH mayor has hotels it seems. That means a lot of politicians have been on the pay and collecting billions in these sanctuary cities.
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Hriday wrote: 22 Sep 2024 19:57 It was suggested in the forum that the pharma/medical lobby is behind the LGBTQ agenda to make money from gender-changing procedures. But it doesn't fully explain the scope of the subject. It is just one of the many self-destructive, anti-Christian agendas in the USA and EU. One wild speculation would be that Islamic countries funding these types of movements to destroy Christian countries.
:rotfl:
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vijayk wrote: 23 Sep 2024 22:08 https://nypost.com/2024/09/20/us-news/f ... schaeffer/
Feds subpoena NYC Mayor Eric Adams’ head of asylum seeker services Molly Schaeffer

NGOs are making billions. All these contractors to ship migrants to cities and put them there are making billions. Hotels are making billions. SpringFeild, OH mayor has hotels it seems. That means a lot of politicians have been on the pay and collecting billions in these sanctuary cities.
Refugee attorney is a career in EU. US is heading the same way too.
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Trump blames Jewish voters for his poll numbers:

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Modi's America Visit will have Good/Bad Outcomes?

Pathikrit Payne in Jaipur Dialogues:



3 Elephants in the Room: China, Russia and France. US is caught in a triangle with elephants on one kona, India on the other kona and US scratching its head on what to do in the last third kona. Well, it is back to the Quad - no not that quad with Aussies & Japan, tis the quad with the 4 major powers of the world. India has the best of the Quad with two friends - Russia and US, though US is trying its best to blow hot & cold. China has Russia in its corner. US is definitely isolated - no russia and no china and dealing with rising India is painful though they have to accept the outcome. Can India take advantage of its two friends - Russia and US. So far Modiji has been steering the ship well. With Russia, it is more of a closer tight embrace - Su 30 MKI, Russian oil, investment in manufacture in India by Russia and more. France is the rebel amongst the Eurotards and they are smarting from AUKUS deal of submarines. They need to take revenge on scuttling of the deal by the US. So France, is well on its way to heaping goodies onto Bharat. Previously the US reigned in any major moves by France, but now the barn door is blown open and the filly is going wild.

The गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is caught in its own contradictions. They turned away from China on its labor arbitrage since the average worker salary shot up. Now they have to replicate the scale of operations elsewhere and there is no other nation other than India that can provide the labor at the right cost angle. One faction of गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya has embraced India and shoveling their Ts into Indian manufacturing, just wait for the avalanche to occur in the coming years. But the putrid/pouting faction of गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya led by the likes of Soreass/Blinken/Nuland are upto their dirty tricks (oh they look so clever and content about their brain farts). They set the neighborhood on fire - BD, Pukes, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Myanmar. They also activated the BIFs/RahooulG. But Agni Devata can back fire onto their behinds shortly.
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Jay wrote: 24 Sep 2024 02:11
Hriday wrote: 22 Sep 2024 19:57 It was suggested in the forum that the pharma/medical lobby is behind the LGBTQ agenda to make money from gender-changing procedures. But it doesn't fully explain the scope of the subject. It is just one of the many self-destructive, anti-Christian agendas in the USA and EU. One wild speculation would be that Islamic countries funding these types of movements to destroy Christian countries.
:rotfl:
I am with @Hriday ji here. Why are ROTFL? I don't understand what you find funny in his post. Could you please articulate your views?
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Jay wrote: 24 Sep 2024 02:11
Hriday wrote: 22 Sep 2024 19:57 It was suggested in the forum that the pharma/medical lobby is behind the LGBTQ agenda to make money from gender-changing procedures. But it doesn't fully explain the scope of the subject. It is just one of the many self-destructive, anti-Christian agendas in the USA and EU. One wild speculation would be that Islamic countries funding these types of movements to destroy Christian countries.
:rotfl:
Yes, I agree - pretty bizarre interpretations. Most healthy response is to laugh.
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I doubt big pharma etc is directly involved . I don't think there is that much money involved . There may be individual physicians who may push the agenda for their career advancement. I in fact know a desi urologist who is a hardcore Republican but does a lot of gender realignment surgeries as he is uroplastic. I think the lgbt thingy went too far because of herd mentality and a whole bunch of middle management types bandwagoned . Then it snow balled out of control . The pronoun nonsense is pretty bizarre as well . I wish I could share some of the nonsense doctors have to deal with related to all that. None of it existed even 5 years back .
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So most POTUS polls are placing KH slightly to more slightly ahead of DT...Many Dems/liberals are confident that DT is toast this time. I feel its good that Modi did not meet with either DT or KH...kept the visit strictly official & business focused.
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Zynda wrote: 25 Sep 2024 05:46 So most POTUS polls are placing KH slightly to more slightly ahead of DT...Many Dems/liberals are confident that DT is toast this time. I feel its good that Modi did not meet with either DT or KH...kept the visit strictly official & business focused.
Yes, both Harris and Trump are campaigning as candidates with election being 6 weeks away. A powerful leader like Modi should not have any need/reason to meet with either of them during such a packed visit.

This "Trump to meet Modi" was a hoax spread only by Trump in one of his campaign rallies. It was never on the agenda at all and was denied by MEA. Modi appears to have finished his UN and bilateral meetings by about 530 PM, and Flightradar showed that Air India 1 took off from JFK by around 730 PM.
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Avoiding Trump and Harris is good. Yesterday's NYT/Siena and CNN polls are pretty bad for Kamala. Even worse is their battleground polls
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vijayk wrote: 25 Sep 2024 21:19 Avoiding Trump and Harris is good. Yesterday's NYT/Siena and CNN polls are pretty bad for Kamala. Even worse is their battleground polls
To avoid pointless discussion based on one poll or the other, check either 538 or RealClearPolitics for poll averages if any credible discussion is to take place. It is the closest election in recent history. Polls are not necessarily accurate.

National: As of now Harris has roughly 3% lead (average).

In battleground states (average):

Harris has 1-2% leads in PA, WI, and MI. Winning those three will get her to 270.

NV is tied.

Trump has 1-2% leads in GA, NC, and AZ.

It is not looking good for Trump at all, given that he was enjoying 5-15% leads in all these states till early August.

Whatever the outcome, it's remarkable that a candidate like Kamala has reversed the race in 8 weeks, before that people did not even know what she is all about.

Unlike Indian LS election runups in which the pollsters do not share their data, it is relatively simple in US presidential elections to add the sample from various polls and get an average. The pollsters do share their sample sizes.
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KL Dubey wrote: 25 Sep 2024 04:39
Jay wrote: 24 Sep 2024 02:11 :rotfl:
Yes, I agree - pretty bizarre interpretations. Most healthy response is to laugh.
Now I realize that :rotfl: is very thoughtful. The most thoughtful poster agrees. Who am I to say nay? :lol:
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Qatar becomes second Muslim nation whose citizens can travel to the US without a visa
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... ut-a-visa/
24 Sept 2024
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Peter Zeihan confirming what I feared -- that US hopes to stave off the reckoning from its fiscal irresponsibility by relying on all other major economies to fizzle (he mentions Europe and Japan, but strangely makes no mention of India, whose economic rise we can expect Washington to sabotage)

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KL Dubey wrote: 26 Sep 2024 02:49
vijayk wrote: 25 Sep 2024 21:19 Avoiding Trump and Harris is good. Yesterday's NYT/Siena and CNN polls are pretty bad for Kamala. Even worse is their battleground polls
To avoid pointless discussion based on one poll or the other, check either 538 or RealClearPolitics for poll averages if any credible discussion is to take place. It is the closest election in recent history. Polls are not necessarily accurate.

National: As of now Harris has roughly 3% lead (average).

In battleground states (average):

Harris has 1-2% leads in PA, WI, and MI. Winning those three will get her to 270.

NV is tied.

Trump has 1-2% leads in GA, NC, and AZ.

It is not looking good for Trump at all, given that he was enjoying 5-15% leads in all these states till early August.

Whatever the outcome, it's remarkable that a candidate like Kamala has reversed the race in 8 weeks, before that people did not even know what she is all about.

Unlike Indian LS election runups in which the pollsters do not share their data, it is relatively simple in US presidential elections to add the sample from various polls and get an average. The pollsters do share their sample sizes.
I am not arguing for Trump! Relax!

At this point compared to 2016/2020, Trump is doing better (Biden and Clinton had better polls at this time nationally and in battlegrounds).

Here is another news ...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cb44&ei=20
Apolling aggregator's Electoral College map forecast has shifted Minnesota from one that leans toward Vice President Kamala Harris to a toss-up.

On September 23, Real Clear Polling had the state as a toss-up in the 2024 presidential race after listing it as lean Harris on July 27.
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vijayk wrote: 26 Sep 2024 19:26
I am not arguing for Trump! Relax!
I never said/thought your post is arguing from Trump, and I am indeed very relaxed here. No worries.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cb44&ei=20

Apolling aggregator's Electoral College map forecast has shifted Minnesota from one that leans toward Vice President Kamala Harris to a toss-up.

On September 23, Real Clear Polling had the state as a toss-up in the 2024 presidential race after listing it as lean Harris on July 27.
Here's the actual data: https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/ ... -vs-harris

The "Sep 23" date has no real meaning, since there are no new polls in MN after Sep 18. Harris has been enjoying a consistent 5+% lead for the last 2 months.

I have no problem if RCP is listing it as a "toss up", but an intelligent observer will also ask "which other states should also then be listed as toss-ups"?

Indeed, there are news reports about Kamala narrowing Trump leads in previously "safe" red states. RCP doesn't have data on these, so I'm using 538 instead.

IA: Kamala has narrowed Trump's lead to 4%: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 2024/iowa/
FL: narrowed to 4% after Kamala replaced Bhaidanwa: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 4/florida/

Although Kamala will not win TX in 2024, even that is narrowed to 6%: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 024/texas/

In a few years, given demographic shifts in the urban and suburban areas, TX too will start coming into play.

I posted the link to this "extremely detailed" interactive map earlier: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... n-map.html

The TX urban areas are already heavily Blue. Suburban areas leaning Blue. The entire US-Mexico border precincts are mostly Blue-leaning as well.
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File under no-coincidences. The indictment reportedly is for taking money from the Turkish government.

NYC mayor Eric Adams refers to India as Pakistan thrice at India Day Parade
New York City Mayor Eric Adams indicted on federal charges
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KL Dubey wrote: 26 Sep 2024 20:31
vijayk wrote: 26 Sep 2024 19:26
I am not arguing for Trump! Relax!
I never said/thought your post is arguing from Trump, and I am indeed very relaxed here. No worries.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... cb44&ei=20

Apolling aggregator's Electoral College map forecast has shifted Minnesota from one that leans toward Vice President Kamala Harris to a toss-up.

On September 23, Real Clear Polling had the state as a toss-up in the 2024 presidential race after listing it as lean Harris on July 27.
Here's the actual data: https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/ ... -vs-harris

The "Sep 23" date has no real meaning, since there are no new polls in MN after Sep 18. Harris has been enjoying a consistent 5+% lead for the last 2 months.

I have no problem if RCP is listing it as a "toss up", but an intelligent observer will also ask "which other states should also then be listed as toss-ups"?

Indeed, there are news reports about Kamala narrowing Trump leads in previously "safe" red states. RCP doesn't have data on these, so I'm using 538 instead.

IA: Kamala has narrowed Trump's lead to 4%: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 2024/iowa/
FL: narrowed to 4% after Kamala replaced Bhaidanwa: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 4/florida/

Although Kamala will not win TX in 2024, even that is narrowed to 6%: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 024/texas/

In a few years, given demographic shifts in the urban and suburban areas, TX too will start coming into play.

I posted the link to this "extremely detailed" interactive map earlier: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... n-map.html

The TX urban areas are already heavily Blue. Suburban areas leaning Blue. The entire US-Mexico border precincts are mostly Blue-leaning as well.
No doubt she changed the advantage Trump had over Biden. If it was not Trump, it would have been easier for Republicans.
Abortion is strong for Harris. Economy, Immigration are strong for Trump based on polls.

If you see Gallup poll is very bad for Harris.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/651092/202 ... e-gop.aspx

Gallup prediction was pretty good in 2016 and 2020.

There is a huge churn in both parties. Major realignment is going on.

https://x.com/QuantusInsights/status/18 ... 3123511442
Based on regression analysis using Gallup's party ID and historical election results, an R+3 environment in 2024 the model projects a 2.5% national popular vote margin in favor of Trump. This aligns with the historical trend where party ID has been a strong predictor of national outcomes.

Key Results:
-R-squared: 0.972 (strong fit)
-Coefficient: 0.964 (each 1-point change in party ID shifts the popular vote by 0.96 pts)

If this trend holds, the Trump-Vance ticket is positioned to win the national popular vote and make significant gains in the Electoral College, potentially flipping states like Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Virginia.
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Vance vs Tim Walz debate next week is another key event to watch out for. Vance might land a lot of punches on Harris. Walz will try to land punches on Trump but he will be defending his lies regarding his National Guard retirement rank modulo moderators asking tough questions to Walz.
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Harris MSNBC interview got panned in NYT.
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vijayk wrote: 26 Sep 2024 21:08
https://x.com/QuantusInsights/status/18 ... 3123511442
Based on regression analysis using Gallup's party ID and historical election results, an R+3 environment in 2024 the model projects a 2.5% national popular vote margin in favor of Trump. This aligns with the historical trend where party ID has been a strong predictor of national outcomes.

Key Results:
-R-squared: 0.972 (strong fit)
-Coefficient: 0.964 (each 1-point change in party ID shifts the popular vote by 0.96 pts)

If this trend holds, the Trump-Vance ticket is positioned to win the national popular vote and make significant gains in the Electoral College, potentially flipping states like Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Virginia.

Whatever be the eventual outcome, I don't think this above approach is scientifically sound. Here's their webpage:

https://quantus.substack.com/p/party-id ... -predictor

- Their webpage graph shows elections from 1992 onwards, but they only analyzed data from 4 elections starting 2008. That's likely because - as the graph showed - including the data from 1992-2004 would mess up the regression quite a bit, or they don't trust the quality of the Gallup data.

- That means the "regression" was done with 4 "data points" which each carry a significant (and unaccounted) error bar since the "party ID" numbers are also obtained from surveys/polls. This is not the reliable correlation claimed by this analyst.

- Finally, using national data is suspect, since battleground states are much more important now than they were in the past.

It could have been better if this analyst produced correlations for each battleground state, predicted the 2024 outcome in each, and then projected the national winner. I suspect they would have tried that (hardly takes much effort to do some simple regressions using the data they already have), but the results may not have supported a desired conclusion :)

A simpler practical interpretation/thumb rule is that Dems should target a > 2.5% national vote lead to make it through, otherwise things are dicey due to battleground state dynamics. There are many Dem party strategists that mention this thumb rule. The assumption is that the "national mood" somehow reflective of the "battleground states mood" - but that is very unreliable when looking at the very narrow margins of victory in these states.
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Regarding the Ramaswamy and Musk tweets - they are obviously partisan opinions/jibes at the opponent. It takes less than 5 minutes to find that Soros family has contributed literally billions to the Dem party over the years. Nothing new here.

But at least they are raising funds in a legal manner and making their agenda and ideology clear. Take it or leave it.

Irrespective of party, fundraising is a tough job.

As for Ramaswamy, according to data he is a complete dud in political fundraising. His campaign raised barely $10M and most of it from the "American Exceptionalism PAC" (the title itself says how far detached from present and future realities these folks are).

Another $30M was from his own funds - which ironically were raised from VCs/investors for his pharma company and then cleverly/"chaturly" used for political adventures (I posted on that earlier).

https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presid ... =N00052397

This "cleverness" got him a 0.4% vote in the primary and 3 delegates. This guy keeps talking about Vedanta on one hand and "Hindu and Judeo-Xtian values are mostly same" on the other, and nobody wants to give him any money.

The Harris-Walz campaign has raised $1.1 billion. https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race
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Harris raised $50 million in 24 hours of her announcing 2020 democrat nomination bid. Her "cleverness" in roping in PRCA corporates got her a sum total of 0 delegates. She got as many delegates as yours truly. A big fat 0.

I am impressed with the high IQ and bigly thoughtful support of Harris by the hugley self-aware Democrats. :mrgreen:
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Americans are quite intelligent and can see through this MSM partisanship and sham. 2024 might be 2016 redux. Just going by polling stats is what did Clinton in. We have to give credit to Harris and her campaign managers to avoid the mistakes Clinton made back in 2016 - not holding rallies in the Blue Wall states of WI, MI, PA and PA.
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Soros family now with a Jihadi bride and his billions is a portrait of how गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya works. I am sure Soros committed some major crime to get his billions or he just inherited some shady money that is not on the books anywhere in the world (meaning the colonial loot of which India took the brunt of the loot). Many of these political donations are a chimera to pump up support but actual money spent on campaigns is very different. The media is गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya and they have ad donors who fill in the slots for Dumbocrats as a freebie. I remember how Clintons swindled Hondurus charity money. Political donations are myths in the US. No one gives huge money for free. There are strings attached and the pound of flesh is extracted elsewhere. We just don't know the mechanics of such largess - what a waste a B on someone who has nothing upstairs, Good lord! The latest swindle by the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is the 20 M illegal flood into US. BTW the previous trade from Africa of hapless blacks into the Americas was controlled by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya operatives who benefitted enormously from slave trade. Yes the Soros like types were in charge. Every illegal activity which will never be on the books is into the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya pocket.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 27 Sep 2024 05:56 Americans are quite intelligent and can see through this MSM partisanship and sham. 2024 might be 2016 redux. Just going by polling stats is what did Clinton in. We have to give credit to Harris and her campaign managers to avoid the mistakes Clinton made back in 2016 - not holding rallies in the Blue Wall states of WI, MI, PA and PA.
Vayu-ji,

It's going to be really close. The Dems will stuff ballot boxes and submit mail-in ballots uncreased with no traceability. Trump is polling better today than he was in 2020. Comparing to 2016 may not be valid as polling methodology has improved. Should Trump win a narrow victory, the Dem controlled states will not certify the election result, if they do, then Harris as President of Senate will not certify in the result in Jan. 2025. Loktantra khatre mein hai.
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bala wrote: 27 Sep 2024 08:13 Soros family now with a Jihadi bride and his billions is a portrait of how गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya works. I am sure Soros committed some major crime to get his billions or he just inherited some shady money that is not on the books anywhere in the world (meaning the colonial loot of which India took the brunt of the loot). Many of these political donations are a chimera to pump up support but actual money spent on campaigns is very different. The media is गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya and they have ad donors who fill in the slots for Dumbocrats as a freebie. I remember how Clintons swindled Hondurus charity money. Political donations are myths in the US. No one gives huge money for free. There are strings attached and the pound of flesh is extracted elsewhere. We just don't know the mechanics of such largess - what a waste a B on someone who has nothing upstairs, Good lord! The latest swindle by the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya is the 20 M illegal flood into US. BTW the previous trade from Africa of hapless blacks into the Americas was controlled by गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya operatives who benefitted enormously from slave trade. Yes the Soros like types were in charge. Every illegal activity which will never be on the books is into the गहरा राज्य Gehra Rajya pocket.
What I'd really like to know is why Soros is going after India. Where did he get that sudden mania from?
He doesn't go after Islamic states - doesn't call them dangers to pluralism & democracy - doesn't go after China either.
Why is it that he so despises India/Hindus in particular?

I feel like his motives have nothing to do with alleged liberal views. Perhaps it instead relates to his long-term financial investments?
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Sanman wrote:why Soros is going after India
Soros background is Hungary. Hungary is in EU and neighbors Ukraine. Hungary was occupied by the Ottoman empire for sometime. So the Jihadi sentiment prevails. Soros has intense hatred of Russia and anyone allied with Russia is an immediate enemy for him. He loves to take up causes and be at the center of media attention. He certainly seems against Israel, don't know why. Maybe he has mixed background considering the Ottomans were in Hungary. Just my 2c because it is hard to read what motivates someone, especially when he has humunguous amounts of cash at his disposal.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 27 Sep 2024 05:45 Harris raised $50 million in 24 hours of her announcing 2020 democrat nomination bid. Her "cleverness" in roping in PRCA corporates got her a sum total of 0 delegates. She got as many delegates as yours truly. A big fat 0.

I am impressed with the high IQ and bigly thoughtful support of Harris by the hugley self-aware Democrats. :mrgreen:
She's so retarded that it hurts to listen to her.
She giggles like an emotionally immature girl -- because she is one.

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bala wrote: 27 Sep 2024 09:55
Sanman wrote:why Soros is going after India
Soros background is Hungary. Hungary is in EU and neighbors Ukraine. Hungary was occupied by the Ottoman empire for sometime. So the Jihadi sentiment prevails. Soros has intense hatred of Russia and anyone allied with Russia is an immediate enemy for him. He loves to take up causes and be at the center of media attention. He certainly seems against Israel, don't know why. Maybe he has mixed background considering the Ottomans were in Hungary. Just my 2c because it is hard to read what motivates someone, especially when he has humunguous amounts of cash at his disposal.
Nah, that's overly simplistic. We know that Soros in particular had that messed up childhood, where he as a young Jewish boy had to live through the Nazi period seeing the properties of Jews being dispossessed. I think that's affected him in some way, and messed him up inside.

But his spoiled pampered kid Alex Soros hasn't lived through that, and has merely decided to bash Hindus because it's fashionable.
So he's now fallen into a self-feeding social circle that exists to nurse and pursue these hatreds against Hindus.
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You peeps assume intelligence wins elections. Didn’t you see in Bharat khatakhat almost won the day ? On the day of elections it’s all emotions that will win. Citizens globally are being softened by narratives and it takes the really contrarian to see through things. That may well be possible now but numbers will be small
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There is a common thread that these jihadi and Sino wimmen are very good at climbing into the white dudes beds that might give them better chance at influencing policy. Look at the average lifestyle if these wimmen, they are white adjacent , nothing about them except food proclaims I am non white. We are the cultured ones - not always but definitely stick out - but we are happily bought by fame and $$ though do we are good for Labour but not as ruling partners. Until we have F U money we will be targeted
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