Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

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ricky_v wrote: 14 Sep 2024 07:28 no, quad has usefulness as a chai-biskoot plenary, and as sj has stated often, the quad is not only an armed forces union choir, but is rather a multi-pronged approach at handling the affairs and ills that plague asean in general, hence the focus on vaccines, comms and technology becoming one of the more core tenets of the quad

phillipines though is being primed to be sacrificed, other countries have not been stupid enough for this role, the lofty tenets of freedom and democracy have a readier home in the gardens of europe than in the jungles of asia, to the sad knowledge of the us and friends and a lesson-in-waiting for newfound "allies"
Apparently, former UK PM Boris Johnson has now revealed in his newly published memoirs that his support for AUKUS was meant as "revenge" against Macron for allowing illegal migrant boat people to flood UK, which was in turn Macron's own revenge against Boris for Brexit :roll:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/0 ... -migrants/

https://theklaxon.com.au/aukus-was-reve ... ly-claims/

So apparently revenge is a dish best served with chai-&-biskoots


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Ah Boris the johnson will live as an epitome of how not to run your country!
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drnayar wrote: 02 Oct 2024 13:37 Ah Boris the johnson will live as an epitome of how not to run your country!
He ran his country the way he combs his hair

Meanwhile, I'm thinking that we need to come up with a way to disintermediate and reduce the power of the US and its Dollar, even without making China and its Yuan the new hegemon.

We need to come up with a more graduated sliding-scale solution, not some One-or-the-Other solution.
Choosing between Dollar-vs-Yuan is like "Pick Your Poison" :(
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Euro and Pound also need to be disintermediated. EU has too much power as a block. If EU breaks up, India can get better bilateral deals.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 03 Oct 2024 05:43 Euro and Pound also need to be disintermediated. EU has too much power as a block. If EU breaks up, India can get better bilateral deals.
USA has already wrecked EU and made it a shambles, thanks to its Ukraine war.

I think EU was proving itself to be a credible alternative market base to the powerful US market.
Euro currency was proving to be a rival to the US Dollar.
Don't you remember how 15 years ago, hihgly-paid professionals were even asking to be paid in Euros rather than Dollars?
That's all in the past now.

Remember that the controlling German interests had emphasized stringent fiscal tightness and anti-inflationary monetary policies.
That naturally made Euro better than USD.

Today we're desperate to find alternatives to the USD, and don't want to embrace Chinese Yuan.
Would Euro have been such a bad choice?
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Jim Rogers, the famous partner of George Soros, who both co-founded Quantum fund




Rogers is an India skeptic, noting that Indian system is very inefficient and bureaucratic. (See 15:02 )
Does this reflect possible similar thinking in Soros, who might see India as a short-selling opportunity?
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Sanmanji
EU as power block is done for
They are as African/Americans say : U are my Bitch!! and are Unkil's chattel!
Immigration/Woke shitheads/too many internal contradictions have ruined the union
Britshits got away earlier as they knew the internal rumblings
Germans are probalby done for and new King is the FrancMonster
And we are drawn closer to them!!
Need to be careful with them (and they are vicious and more racist than most goras)!!
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SRajesh wrote: 03 Oct 2024 21:15 Sanmanji
EU as power block is done for
They are as African/Americans say : U are my Bitch!! and are Unkil's chattel!
Immigration/Woke shitheads/too many internal contradictions have ruined the union
Britshits got away earlier as they knew the internal rumblings
Germans are probalby done for and new King is the FrancMonster
And we are drawn closer to them!!
Need to be careful with them (and they are vicious and more racist than most goras)!!
Brits got away not only because they didn't like Schengen free migration zone, but also because they didn't want to lose control over their own currency (Pound) in exchange for Euro and control by European Bank.

I think we should have looked upon EU as a good balancer against US hyperpower.
As you say, Europeans without EU are all a bunch of sitting ducks who fall under thumb of US.

Euro could have been a useful alternative to US Dollar, given America's growing overspending addiction.
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When the Euro was introduced the combined GDP of euro zone was over 90% of US GDP. Now it's about 50%.

Today France is running a debt of over 3T, the engine of EU economy Germany is in a deep energy crisis, the Ukraine war has further emptied EU coffers. Chinese imports have killed local mfg. On top of all this the green madness, illegal immigration have made EU a pale shadow of whatever it was in the late 90s.

What serves India's interests is more bilateral trade with various countries in different currencies. Reserve currency needs global power projection, we or anyone else isn't there yet except the US.

What's the hurry anyway?
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Dr JS teaching geopolitics to the UN :mrgreen:
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Cyrano wrote: 07 Oct 2024 12:47 When the Euro was introduced the combined GDP of euro zone was over 90% of US GDP. Now it's about 50%.

Today France is running a debt of over 3T, the engine of EU economy Germany is in a deep energy crisis, the Ukraine war has further emptied EU coffers. Chinese imports have killed local mfg. On top of all this the green madness, illegal immigration have made EU a pale shadow of whatever it was in the late 90s.

What serves India's interests is more bilateral trade with various countries in different currencies. Reserve currency needs global power projection, we or anyone else isn't there yet except the US.

What's the hurry anyway?
Why would Global Reserve Currency need global power projection?

Global Reserve Currency has to be a haven and a safety net against risk, not necessarily a firehose on the rest of the world
(although US is more of a flamethrower these days, if you ask me)

Global Reserve Currency is something you flee to, not call upon to stomp around your neighborhood.
No power projection is required.

The best mitigation against risk is diversification, since no one currency/govt is so infallibly trustworthy.

Problem is that America can behave like an arsonist to wreck the economies of others, and thereby make itself the least risky alternative.
Isn't that what it's been doing against China, EU, and Russia?
Those are the major economic/currency alternatives, and these precisely the ones US has hammered through its policies, even while spouting fake moral pretexts in doing so.
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Sanman Bhai,
The second part of your post answers the questions in the first part.

The USD has a long history and how it got to be the reserve currency is quite an interesting saga. Please look it up. And then perhaps you will see that no power projection makes a currency worth nothing, much less reach the global reserve status.
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Significance of the IMEC and the Israel-Hamas war...
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Cyrano wrote: 08 Oct 2024 11:37 Sanman Bhai,
The second part of your post answers the questions in the first part.

The USD has a long history and how it got to be the reserve currency is quite an interesting saga. Please look it up. And then perhaps you will see that no power projection makes a currency worth nothing, much less reach the global reserve status.
So this then invokes the "Least Dirty Shirt" philosophy in finance.
If all the shirts in the laundry bin are dirty, then a person will seek to wear the least dirty shirt.
Analogously, even if US economy is being mismanaged, it can still harvest all the world's capital, as long as all the other alternative destinations for capital are in worse shape.

Is this the newest reason for US obsession against Russia? Does US see Russia as the new best competing alternative for capital, which they must sabotage in order to stay afloat? (Past reasons include that Heartland-Rimland Theory, but the finance thing can be yet another newer reason)
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This discussion is centered on a lot of geo problems like Israel, Iran, Ukr, China, BRICS, Russia, ASEAN. Worth a quick look and many angles are covered. What India can do in such a pot-boiler story is interesting.

Jaipur Dialogues with Pathikrit Payne.

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The G7 and EU countries are shitting BRICS about the upcoming Kazan summit and are clueless about how to react to alternate payment systems and tauba tauba the possibility of an alternate reserve currency system.

I expect them to react in self destructive ways.
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Cyrano wrote: 13 Oct 2024 13:05 The G7 and EU countries are shitting BRICS about the upcoming Kazan summit and are clueless about how to react to alternate payment systems and tauba tauba the possibility of an alternate reserve currency system.

Expect them to react in self-destructive ways.
They are making it increasingly difficult for the key players of BRICS to live with the Bretton woods dollar system., what else did they expect

Besides they dont want to go down with the US when the USD tanks., and it's not an if [ EU is expected to do harikari , do they have a choice ?! ]
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sanman wrote: 13 Oct 2024 08:45
Cyrano wrote: 08 Oct 2024 11:37 Sanman Bhai,
The second part of your post answers the questions in the first part.

The USD has a long history and how it got to be the reserve currency is quite an interesting saga. Please look it up. And then perhaps you will see that no power projection makes a currency worth nothing, much less reach the global reserve status.
So this then invokes the "Least Dirty Shirt" philosophy in finance.
If all the shirts in the laundry bin are dirty, then a person will seek to wear the least dirty shirt.
Analogously, even if US economy is being mismanaged, it can still harvest all the world's capital, as long as all the other alternative destinations for capital are in worse shape.

Is this the newest reason for US obsession against Russia? Does US see Russia as the new best competing alternative for capital, which they must sabotage in order to stay afloat? (Past reasons include that Heartland-Rimland Theory, but the finance thing can be yet another newer reason)
yes increasingly it is so.. they need wars to stay afloat ., the American mil ind complex has now grown so big that it cannot be audited

once Russia can be tamed , it will be china next and then india.
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drnayar wrote: 13 Oct 2024 17:06
sanman wrote: 13 Oct 2024 08:45

So this then invokes the "Least Dirty Shirt" philosophy in finance.
If all the shirts in the laundry bin are dirty, then a person will seek to wear the least dirty shirt.
Analogously, even if US economy is being mismanaged, it can still harvest all the world's capital, as long as all the other alternative destinations for capital are in worse shape.

Is this the newest reason for US obsession against Russia? Does US see Russia as the new best competing alternative for capital, which they must sabotage in order to stay afloat? (Past reasons include that Heartland-Rimland Theory, but the finance thing can be yet another newer reason)
yes increasingly it is so.. they need wars to stay afloat ., the American mil ind complex has now grown so big that it cannot be audited

once Russia can be tamed , it will be china next and then india.
I thought maybe EU was #2 spot, China #3, Russia #4, India #5

EU was doing well, so that at one point highly paid professionals (athletes, supermodels) were demanding to be paid in Euros not Dollars.
EU was already facing tougher times after Goldman-Sachs got Greece into massive debt.
But then Russia-Ukraine war not only created problems for Russia, but also wrecked EU economy when US destroyed Germany's energy supply thru Nord Stream attack.
So US managed to hammer both EU & Russia together - nailing 2 birds with 1 stone

But China's economy is far larger than Russia's. US is not wrecking China's economy thru wars.
US seems to have used HongKong as its financial chokepoint against China.
This, along with certain innate flaws in the Chinese economy seems to have put China on the back foot. But how long will that last?
It seems to me that China will likely recover after undergoing some retooling and retrenchment. And then what will US do?
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China is unlikely to recover. The Panic in Cheenland is now complete.

China's NIM - net interest margin is very low. The differences are very low 1.4, negative for largest bank of China, normally 2.8 is healthy. China's unemployement is raging well over 33%. Internal consumption is lagging. External consumption, the lid has been placed by tarrifs in EU/US and other nations. Huge overcapacity factories are lying idle which directly contributes to unemployment. One of the key things for high tech manufacture are equipment maintanence and repair. Most of them were imported into China factories to keep them humming. But those vendors are gone. I heard their high speed railway critical components were supplied by Japan and France/Germany. Now, those supplies are stopped. Same for the new fangled commercial aircraft, the engine is from GE. All the wealthy Chinese have fled to Canada, EU, US taking their major money away. The largest illegal immigrant population via Mexico is now Chinese origin people. The Deep State pocketed the moolah from the Chinese, and these chinese are not going to do the grunt work for the US!

Lt. Gen P R Shankar and Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan have the complete picture in this YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIPTwofxFV0
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bala wrote: 14 Oct 2024 00:41 China is unlikely to recover. The Panic in Cheenland is now complete.

China's NIM - net interest margin is very low. The differences are very low 1.4, negative for largest bank of China, normally 2.8 is healthy. China's unemployement is raging well over 33%. Internal consumption is lagging. External consumption, the lid has been placed by tarrifs in EU/US and other nations. Huge overcapacity factories are lying idle which directly contributes to unemployment. One of the key things for high tech manufacture are equipment maintanence and repair. Most of them were imported into China factories to keep them humming. But those vendors are gone. I heard their high speed railway critical components were supplied by Japan and France/Germany. Now, those supplies are stopped. Same for the new fangled commercial aircraft, the engine is from GE. All the wealthy Chinese have fled to Canada, EU, US taking their major money away. The largest illegal immigrant population via Mexico is now Chinese origin people. The Deep State pocketed the moolah from the Chinese, and these chinese are not going to do the grunt work for the US!

Lt. Gen P R Shankar and Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan have the complete picture in this YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIPTwofxFV0
Yes, I'd watched that video stream live.

But I don't get how Mighty China can fall so easily. They were walking tall before, and yet they've now been brought down so quickly.
Celebrations seem premature, if you ask me. They are still world's 2nd-largest economy (or largest by PPP)
They are still building up their navy and their nuke arsenal.
They won't suddenly disappear anytime soon. We Indians always like to count our chicks before they're hatched.
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Please look at the population and demographics video I posted in the China thread.

Like a lot of other cooked up economy, GDP
millions pulled out of poverty etc numbers, their population numbers are also cooked up. Which means the workforce is a couple of hundred million smaller, the consumption market is smaller, and the killer blow will be too few people of working age left to support too many old people. Some of the young who have realised this have given up partially "lie flat" and others are now going into "I don't care crap" mode. Which makes the problem even worse. Any ham fisted attempts by CCP (which is fully aware of all this bcoz they have engineered this), to impose even more forced labour will likely cause a revolution. They can't organise games to lull the population so they are now rattling for war.

I think this is one of the factors that led to LAC aggression. But with the galwan debacle they had to back off realising that conflict escalation means lots of body bags which will lead to internal backlash and again lead to revolt.

The dragging LAC negotiations are a face saver that Bharat has given them coz we are not interested in war right now. We are using the time to improve border infra which will make any future aggression even more of a losing proposition for cheen.

So what's left for CCP to continue the charade? BRI is a dud. Going after Bharat's neighbours isn't really working. So rake up Taiwan and aggression in Indo Pacific to continue the dance with the US.

All this doesn't mean China will collapse tomorrow, but it definitely means China has played some bad moves and lost pawns sufficiently to make strategic gains very very difficult in the future.
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No telling what Pappu would do., if that nincompoop comes anywhere near power.
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https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-824305

Radical Islamists gather in Hamburg to call for caliphate
Muslim Interaktiv is classified as extremist by the Hamburg Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
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1181

Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, is a self-improvement cultivation system that includes gentle meditative exercises and moral teachings based on the three core principles of truth, compassion, and tolerance. Introduced in 1992, Falun Gong became widely popular in China by the late 1990s. By 1999, the then-CCP leader Jiang Zemin perceived Falun Gong’s moral teachings and growing popularity as a threat to the CCP’s culture of struggle, atheism, and materialism, and he launched a nationwide campaign of persecution to eradicate the practice on July 20, 1999. The violent suppression continues to this date.

See how the Falun Gong closely simulates santan dharma.


Also the enmity of the Chinese communist party to bharat is deeply ideological and not just percentile.

Why pappu preaches caste hood and divide Hindus subvert nationalism .. one can just infer what MOU was signed between the CCP and Congress Party.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78ddj25kgvo

Looks like maidan revolution is being planned in Georgia. The template of Ukraine and Arab Spring is being repeated: right of centre party wins elections, the opposition claims fraud and has asked for a mass gathering to overthrow the results.

Pappu and Kerri wanted to emulate this but were unsuccessful
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Link: https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1850 ... t53QQ&s=19

This is probably the best thread that I've read on the key decisions taken at the BRICS meeting in Kazan, which are bigger than I thought at first glance.

Jacques Sapir is a renowned French economist and one of the foremost Western experts on the Russian economy.

Since his 🧵 is in French, I translated it in full below 👇

"The conclusion of the 16th BRICS summit held in Kazan from October 22-24 resulted in important decisions.

It should be noted that BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa), joined by 4 new countries (Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, United Arab Emirates), now represent more than 33% of global GDP compared to the G7's 29%.

Among these decisions, three stand out: the institutionalization of a "partner countries" category within BRICS, the creation of the BRICS-Clear system to facilitate exchanges between members and partner countries, and the establishment of the BRICS (Re)Insurance Company.

The consequences of these decisions will be very significant, not only for BRICS and their associates but also for the Western world. The movement toward global "de-Westernization" is accelerating.

One of the most emblematic decisions taken at the Kazan summit was the institutionalization of the "partner countries" category within BRICS. This creates a "BRICS zone" around the core members.

The presence of Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, and Vietnam in this "partner" category implies that BRICS, already dominant in Asia due to China and India's membership, could become hegemonic in this region.

The second essential decision of the 16th BRICS summit is the creation of BRICS Clear, a settlement and clearing system for both intra-BRICS trade and trade between BRICS and "partner" countries.

One of BRICS Clear's key objectives is to create an alternative to the SWIFT system. Within the BRICS Clear system, the use of national currencies as instruments for settling international transactions will be prioritized.

Transaction clearing will be handled through a "stablecoin" managed by the New Development Bank. The clearing issue is important since trade will be multilateral (22 countries: 9 BRICS members and 13 partner countries).

This system draws inspiration from the European Payments Union (1950-1957). At that time, transaction calculations and final settlement were done in dollars. In BRICS Clear, a "stablecoin" will serve as the unit of account, with final settlement occurring in local currencies.

Trade requires insurance services (for both the contract itself and transportation); these insurance services involve reinsurance activities. With the BRICS (Re)Insurance Company, BRICS is building its independence from Western insurance companies.

This measure, the third important decision from the Kazan summit, will facilitate intra-BRICS trade, as well as trade with "partner" countries and generally with any country wishing to trade with the "BRICS Zone."

The last two measures (BRICS Clear and the insurance company) decided at the 16th BRICS summit in Kazan will necessarily have significant consequences for global trade structure and the international use of the Dollar and Euro.

The consequences for global trade structure fall into two categories. The first involves trade flow diversion due to preferential conditions for intra-BRICS trade and between BRICS partners.

The export loss for "non-BRICS" and Western countries will amount to 5-7% of volume for Western countries. While this figure isn't very significant, the proportion could vary greatly by country and have destabilizing consequences for some.

The second, more immediate consequence lies in the loss of business for Western insurance and reinsurance companies specializing in trade insurance, which will necessarily be significant.

The monetary consequences of the massive and relatively rapid de-dollarization process, even though the term "de-dollarization" is rejected by two BRICS countries (India and Brazil) who nonetheless approve and support the BRICS Clear system, will be significant.

Intra-BRICS trade and trade with partner countries represents 35-40% of global trade. While some is already conducted in local currencies, it seems very unlikely that this portion exceeds 20% of intra-BRICS trade and trade with partner countries.

This means that 28-32% of global trade, currently conducted in Dollars and Euros, could gradually be transformed within the BRICS Clear framework into trade independent of the Dollar and Euro.

Potentially, the "de-dollarized" portion through BRICS Clear in the coming 5 years would be between 70-80%, thus representing between 19.5% and 25.5% of global trade. Mechanically, the Dollar's share in international transactions would decrease accordingly.

If we estimate that the currency share in Central Bank reserves roughly reflects these currencies' use in trade, the Dollar's share could decline from 58% of total identified reserves to around 35-40%.

The Euro's share would be much less affected because the Euro is currently mainly used in intra-EU trade and with immediate EU partners where, except for Turkey, the impact of trade with the "BRICS zone" is low.

However, the impact would not be limited to the sharp decline of the Dollar and the rise of "other currencies." Indeed, the Dollar amounts held by Central Banks are held in the form of U.S. Treasury bonds.

The shift from 58% to 34-39% in Central Bank reserves would imply massive sales of Treasury bonds, causing a collapse of the public bond market and significant difficulties for the U.S. Treasury in refinancing United States debt.

One can therefore consider that the implementation of the BRICS Clear system will have significant implications for the stability of the global monetary system and more specifically for the "Western" portion of this global monetary system."
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sanman wrote: 14 Oct 2024 03:40They won't suddenly disappear anytime soon. We Indians always like to count our chicks before they're hatched.
Considering this forum has been collectively predicting the implosion of Pakistan for 30 years, I'd have to agree. Despite being "broke" and on the verge of collapse all this time, Pakistan is still here, still supporting terrorists and religious strife in India, and still posing a credible military threat.

We Indians do love our wishful thinking.
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Paki bhaijaans are plentiful in desh. Expect them to throw hissy fits first as fatherland crumbles
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What we have now is indeed an imploded Pakistan. We don't want that cess pit to explode and splash all over us.
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Pakistan is like that headless corpse in Bahubali 1.0.
If you note all it can do are terrorist strikes in J&K only.
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Y. Kanan wrote:
Considering this forum has been collectively predicting the implosion of Pakistan for 30 years, I'd have to agree. Despite being "broke" and on the verge of collapse all this time, Pakistan is still here, still supporting terrorists and religious strife in India, and still posing a credible military threat.

We Indians do love our wishful thinking.
That's news to me! Forum wasn't there in 1994.
But I get your drift.
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Cyrano wrote: 29 Oct 2024 04:35 What we have now is indeed an imploded Pakistan. We don't want that cess pit to explode and splash all over us.
Actually, I'd be ok. Let it implode first, we can handle it. I don't want the fear of "what are we going to do" to stop us from giving a nudge to them to implode quicker when the time comes.

Hopefully, since they identify as atabs, they look to the west and not the east
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Will There Be a Race to Grab Parts of Antarctica?

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OPINION: Not having a defence university reflects strategic myopia
Professional military education of the officer corps of any country is a strong determinant of the quality of its armed forces. Military officers are expected to be proficient in the management of violence. War is the ultimate arbiter of relationships between nations. It is also the most undesirable of measures adopted by any country in today’s age when weapons of mass destruction threaten mutually assured destruction. Every avenue of diplomacy, negotiation and coercion must be exhausted before contemplating military conflict. For managing violence, therefore, several questions need to be considered.

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What priorities drive the nation’s policies? What importance does the government accord to different components of national security? Where do the armed forces fit in? What are the expectations from them in peace and war? Does the institutional design within and outside the armed forces enhance their effectiveness? How does the relationship of the military leadership with other civilian power groups such as politicians, bureaucrats, diplomats, scientists, academics and industry synergise national security interests? What are the safeguards against falling prey to partisan or narrow interests?

Wider understanding of these questions is the sine qua non of the management of violence. It is the duty of governments ensure that the leadership of the armed forces is intellectually equipped to discharge their responsibilities. This is enabled by professional military education. Many questions regarding national security fall outside the core competence of the military officer corps and requires the indulgence of the civilian political leadership, apex bureaucracy and academia.

The training establishments of the armed forces have a historical legacy of professional training expertise that are second to none. Not surprisingly therefore, the Indian armed forces are known for their professionalism. Professional military education, however, is more than professional training. While the latter is more technical in content, the former provides the broader base for understanding matters that impinge upon national security. This includes appropriate knowledge of history, political science, international relations, technology and governance to name a few.

Officers of the Indian armed forces undertake periodic courses to prepare them for higher responsibilities. These courses are ‘training-heavy’ as it should perhaps be at junior levels, up to the rank of Major and equivalent. Beyond that, they should progressively become ‘education-heavy’ culminating at the level of the National Defence College where only the ‘big picture’ is screened. For this, three essentials have been identified by several high-level committees in the past.

First, there is a need to revamp syllabi in military institutions of higher learning. This must be done by a core group of experts, including specially chosen military officers. This same committee should ideally review syllabi of the Defence Services Staff College, the three War Colleges, the College of Defence Management and the National Defence College as they could then curate a graded enrichment of the syllabi in keeping with the learning objectives of each institution.

Second, there is a need for permanent civilian faculty in these institutions. Military officers are not necessarily good educators. Their upbringing is training-focused and hence many may not even realise the value of a well-rounded professional military education. They are also appointed for short durations for meeting other career milestones. Permanent civilian faculty alongside military officers will provide continuity, diversity, alternate viewpoints and specific expertise, all so essential for quality professional military education.

Finally, India must have a defence university. It is understood that the armed forces had strongly recommended the establishment of such a university, to be named the Indian National Defence University (INDU). Land too, was identified close to the National Capital Region and for a while, it seemed all was moving well before the proposal suddenly went off the radar.

In the meanwhile, the Raksha Shakti University in Gujarat got rechristened in 2010 as Rashtriya Raksha University (RRU), a Central University under the aegis of the Ministry of Home Affairs. The charter of this university covers internal and coastal security and it has no mandate over ‘defence’ education. There is hence no conflict of either mandate or interest if a separate defence university is established.

The defence university should coordinate professional military education, provide academic cover to identified military institutes, be the centre of excellence of defence research and run specialised courses for both military personnel and civilians. This would also generate better military expertise non-military people, the lack of which is an acknowledged weakness.

The proposal to establish a defence university is not the military’s fervent plea though it has been made out to sound like one. The military has been proactive to recommend what is in the national interest. The government must consider the matter urgently. Getting the professional military education model in India right will pay rich dividends. Not doing so will reflect abject strategic myopia.

The author is a former Commander-in-Chief of India’s Eastern Naval Command.

The opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of THE WEEK.
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