India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

[Najunamar]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 222006.cms

India withdraws HC from Canada - rapidly escalating tensions, don’t know if CanPappu thought he could get away with bizarre allegations. Terrible miscalculations by Canada being egged on by U.S. deep state as by themselves Canada cannot do jacks**t.

[sanman]

India Pulls Its High Commissioner Out of Canada

[KL Dubey]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 222006.cms

India withdraws HC from Canada - rapidly escalating tensions, don’t know if CanPappu thought he could get away with bizarre allegations. Terrible miscalculations by Canada being egged on by U.S. deep state as by themselves Canada cannot do jacks**t.

Good move indeed. Now let us see if the bharat sarkar shuts down Kanaddian diplomatic missions in India soon.

https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2024/ ... erest.html

[sanman]

I keep telling people here that India should not be pulling its punches with Canada.
For every pinch from them, we should return a punch.
But some people here keep insisting that this will go away if we just turn the other cheek.
No, all that will happen from turning the other cheek is that we'll get both cheeks bashed, and various other places as well.

We should have started using visas as a weapon -- and spread the word that as long as Trudeau is in power, then NRIs won't get to visit India.
At that point, they'll throw out Trudeau immediately.


Canada Alleges Much Wider Campaign by Modi Government Against Sikhs

India says Canada wants to question top diplomat in Ottawa in Sikh probe

Angry India Accuses Canada of 'Preposterous' Investigation

[KL Dubey]

Rather than seeing everything with "US deep state" blinkers, one should also look at the current politics of Kanadda. The MEA has clearly highlighted this as the main cause of the deep downturn in India-Canada relations.

Turdwater is now running a minority sarkar, with Hagmeet (NDP) and Quebecois party providing bare minimum of "outside support" to survive the repeated no-confidence motions brought by Poilievre.

Both NDP and Quebecois are likely waiting to see what they can extract from Turdwater. This latest India-related shenanigan could be a last ditch attempt to regain NDP support (or draw some NDP legislators/voters into his camp).

[Cyrano]

If played well this could lead to a regime change

[sanman]

Rather than seeing everything with "US deep state" blinkers, one should also look at the current politics of Kanadda. The MEA has clearly highlighted this as the main cause of the deep downturn in India-Canada relations.

Turdwater is now running a minority sarkar, with Hagmeet (NDP) and Quebecois party providing bare minimum of "outside support" to survive the repeated no-confidence motions brought by Poilievre.

Both NDP and Quebecois are likely waiting to see what they can extract from Turdwater. This latest India-related shenanigan could be a last ditch attempt to regain NDP support (or draw some NDP legislators/voters into his camp).

Canada is hoping to ignite insurgency in India -- Khalistan insurgency.
We need to to see how to repay Canada in the same coin.

Whatever the reason -- whether for domestic politics or for being Washington's stooge -- we can't just take this behaviour from them lying down.

By your standard, we could say that Pakistan obsesses over Kashmir for domestic politics too. That doesn't mean we can take it lightly.

[chetak]

THE SWORD IS OUT....FROM BHARAT'S SIDE!

#Modi Sarkar has expelled 6 Canadian diplomats. ORDERED to leave Bharat before 19 oct midnight.

Btw....Russia is already at loggerheads with Dustbin Trudeau for supporting Ukraine.

Dustbin is in a hurry to put entire Canada in Dustbin.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

Beyond Modi Sarkar's withdrawal of diplomats, the bold statement caught my attention: 'Bharat reserves the right to take FURTHER STEPS in response to the Trudeau government's support for extremism and separatism.' Canada has made a grave mistake! Expect serious repercussions as Bharat targets the Canadian economy.

[Cyrano]

Just stepping back a little, if India - Canada relations are completely broken, who benefits and why?

Is this just due to Turdwater's political shenanigans - which is what our Dr SJ says in public being the consummate diplomat that he is, but what is the larger picture update given all that is going on? China? Pakis? UK? US (which is harbouring Pannu) ?

[Cyrano]

Expecting Kaneda to expel diplomats we are already recalling

[Cyrano]

I think the last time Modi met Turdwater he must have promised to help with the housing crisis in Kaneda. No more students and expats should definitely help ease the housing market

[Amber G.]

Posting.."evidence pertaining to agents of the Govt of India involvement in serious criminal activity" in Canada"..

Canadian government used the term 'pro khalistan movement' in its release. These pple have killed/threatened & seeks division of India. It's like calling the "Quebec Liberation Front", a listed terror group in Canada on similar lines...



Commissioner Michael Duheme briefs the media on alleged Indian involvement in 'violent criminal activity' in Canada..

[Amber G.]

India recalls High Commissioner to Canada
'Have no faith in current Canadian government' says New Delhi.

[chetak]

If played well this could lead to a regime change

That regime change, Cyrano ji, may already be underway, with or without turdeau's active participation



His "discussions" with modi ji during the ASEAN summit in Laos, reportedly, almost bordered on the abusive


this woke schitt is in a panicked state, his future is looking quite bleak and may well be swathed in obscurity as he fears getting consigned to the dustbin of history

[sanman]

Just stepping back a little, if India - Canada relations are completely broken, who benefits and why?

Is this just due to Turdwater's political shenanigans - which is what our Dr SJ says in public being the consummate diplomat that he is, but what is the larger picture update given all that is going on? China? Pakis? UK? US (which is harbouring Pannu) ?

Trudeau benefits from courting Sikh vote. Black vote in Canada is too small. Sikh vote in Canada is much bigger. Therefore Trudeau can't copycat American Leftists by talking about Slavery every 5 seconds. Instead, he has to talk about Khalistanis every 5 seconds.

Trudeau is just as dumb as Kamala Harris, but lacks her precious "woman of colour" identity checkboxes.
Therefore Trudeau has to hustle much harder than she does, and is looking for a big juicy dumb vote bank, which he thinks he can get thru Sikhs.

[Amber G.]

[fanne]

The sikh and hindu population of population is same in Kenedda (don't know about distribution). Cannot Haryana style counter polarization happen?

[vera_k]

Trudeau benefits from courting Sikh vote. Black vote in Canada is too small. Sikh vote in Canada is much bigger. Therefore Trudeau can't copycat American Leftists by talking about Slavery every 5 seconds. Instead, he has to talk about Khalistanis every 5 seconds.

Reference to South Asian in that press statement from RCMP makes me think this is more about attracting Pakistani support.

Not an expert on Crown constitutional matters by any means, but I also wonder if the faction of Sikhs who feel aggrieved by the Crown are close to persuading King Charles to grant them a substantial grant of crown lands with close to dominion status carved out of Canada. This dust-up can be a last ditch attempt to forestall that eventuality.

[chetak]

Bleddy inbred kanedian clowns

Canada police claims India has been targetting khalistanis with help of an organised crime group like the "Bishnoi Group"

Brigitte Gauvin, Assistant Commissioner at RCMP, claims India is using the #Bishnoi gang to target pro-Khalistani supporters in #Canada.

She asserts this organised crime group has links to agents of the Indian government, adding fuel to the ongoing diplomatic dispute

So, a jailed gangster in India is now orchestrating international spy missions?

WATCH VIDEO

Is everyone uneducated out there in Canada?

How can u link Bishnoi Group to Government of India? Even if they have links there’s no way on earth it can be proven by Canada

I am loving these low IQ banters by Canadian politicians n govt officials.

[Amber G.]

Time line
1.56 PM: India slams Canada for involving HC in probe
6.52 PM: 's top diplomat summoned
7.23 PM: Summoning over, India announces withdrawal of its envoy
8.30 PM: Reports of expelling diplomats
9.30 PM: RCMP PC
9.46 PM: announces expelling of Diplomats

Meanwhile, WSJ (and many Indian Newspapers)..


(As some one observed a quick litmus test:

Tomorrow morning in India, when you guys wake up, go through the news. Find all the news sites that claim "Canada expelled Indian diplomats" when the truth is India gave a tight slap to Canadian extremist, separatist, and terrorist sympathizer Trudeau Govt by first recalling Indian diplomats and expelling theirs. There will be many that claim this. You will then know all the deep state media agencies, journalists, and reporters. Especially look for Indian ones that parrot the foreign media lines and ensure they are exposed.

[sanman]

We can see clear escalation here - they're now making wider allegations beyond Nijjar


Canada Police Say Agents of Indian Government Involved in Criminal Activities on Its Soil

[Amber G.]

6 Indian diplomats and consular officials had received a notice of expulsion from Canada in relation to a targeted campaign against Canadian citizens by agents linked to the Government of India: Canadian foreign ministry!

[Amber G.]

For record:
India's response to diplomatic communication from Canada

Ministry of External Affairs



India's response to diplomatic communication from Canada
October 14, 2024

We have received a diplomatic communication from Canada yesterday suggesting that the Indian High Commissioner and other diplomats are ‘persons of interest’ in a matter related to an investigation in that country. The Government of India strongly rejects these preposterous imputations and ascribes them to the political agenda of the Trudeau Government that is centered around vote bank politics.

Since Prime Minister Trudeau made certain allegations in September 2023, the Canadian Government has not shared a shred of evidence with the Government of India, despite many requests from our side. This latest step follows interactions that have again witnessed assertions without any facts. This leaves little doubt that on the pretext of an investigation, there is a deliberate strategy of smearing India for political gains.

Prime Minister Trudeau’s hostility to India has long been in evidence. In 2018, his visit to India, which was aimed at currying favour with a vote bank, rebounded to his discomfort. His Cabinet has included individuals who have openly associated with an extremist and separatist agenda regarding India. His naked interference in Indian internal politics in December 2020 showed how far he was willing to go in this regard. That his Government was dependent on a political party, whose leader openly espouses a separatist ideology vis-à-vis India, only aggravated matters. Under criticism for turning a blind eye to foreign interference in Canadian politics, his Government has deliberately brought in India in an attempt to mitigate the damage. This latest development targeting Indian diplomats is now the next step in that direction. It is no coincidence that it takes place as Prime Minister Trudeau is to depose before a Commission on foreign interference. It also serves the anti-India separatist agenda that the Trudeau Government has constantly pandered to for narrow political gains.

To that end, the Trudeau Government has consciously provided space to violent extremists and terrorists to harass, threaten and intimidate Indian diplomats and community leaders in Canada. This has included death threats to them and to Indian leaders. All these activities have been justified in the name of freedom of speech. Some individuals who have entered Canada illegally have been fast-tracked for citizenship. Multiple extradition requests from the Government of India in respect of terrorists and organized crime leaders living in Canada have been disregarded.

High Commissioner Sanjay Kumar Verma is India’s senior most serving diplomat with a distinguished career spanning 36 years. He has been Ambassador in Japan and Sudan, while also serving in Italy, Turkiye, Vietnam and China. The aspersions cast on him by the Government of Canada are ludicrous and deserve to be treated with contempt.

The Government of India has taken cognizance of the activities of the Canadian High Commission in India that serve the political agenda of the current regime. This led to the implementation of the principle of reciprocity in regard to diplomatic representation. India now reserves the right to take further steps in response to these latest efforts of the Canadian Government to concoct allegations against Indian diplomats.

New Delhi
October 14, 2024

[Amber G.]

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[sanman]

[sanman]

Canada's Foreign Minister Melanie Jolie Claims Their Govt Has Expelled 6 Indian Diplomats for Engaging in Violent & Coercive Criminal Activities Inside Canada

[sanman]

^^
Reporters twice asked Trudeau's Minister of Public Safety Dominc LeBlanc about how many different homicides Indian govt agents have carried out in Canada, as per allegations.
Minister LeBlanc replied that he didn't want to get into specifics.

Foreign Minister Melanie Jolie was then asked by a reported on whether the murder of Ripudaman Singh Malik last year was carried out by Indian govt agents. She replied that the question should be directed to the RCMP (Canada's federal police).

She was also asked whether she will impose economic sanctions against India. She said that today's expulsion of Indian diplomats are the immediate action which has been taken, but everything remains on the table.

Dominic LeBlanc said he had a discussion with US Attorney General Merrick Garland and US Director of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas in Washington about these allegations, which were based on evidence collected in cooperation with Five Eyes.

[Tanaji]

I dont understand one thing : the timing. Why now? Trudeau’s govt has been in trouble for a while now. Jagmeet is not returning and whatever antics Trudeau does wont help him: Monty Singh from Taran Taran would rather help Jagmeet Veerji from da Pind than a pasty white boy.

[sanman]

I dont understand one thing : the timing. Why now? Trudeau’s govt has been in trouble for a while now. Jagmeet is not returning and whatever antics Trudeau does wont help him: Monty Singh from Taran Taran would rather help Jagmeet Veerji from da Pind than a pasty white boy.

New internal trouble for Trudeau: members of his own Liberal Party have been calling for him to step down and let someone else take over as party leader. Well, that would be like asking Pappu or Sonia to step down from Congress leadership. That absolutely cannot be allowed -- so maximum stuntsmanship now has to be resorted to, in order to save Trudeau's political neck. Remember there are also a number of Sikh MPs inside Trudeau's Liberal Party, whose votes could come in handy for preserving his precious party leadership status.

Just to also add:
Trudeau has said the 6 Indian diplomats he has expelled from Canada will never be allowed to re-enter Canada again.
He said that Canada will never tolerate interference and harm to its citizens, and that he will do whatever is necessary to protect them against a hostile power

[chetak]

[drnayar]

Are the Canadian consulates in haryana etc still open .. they won't need many consulates !

[Amber G.]

..6 Indian diplomats and consular officials had received a notice of expulsion from Canada in relation to a targeted campaign against Canadian citizens by agents linked to the Government of India: Canadian foreign ministry..

[Amber G.]

For the record:<video> Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau with two Ministers holds 45mins long press conference against India and yet again fails to provide any evidence against Indian Govt. Trudeau silent on Canadian Khalistani terrorists and gangsters and lack of action against them.
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This response from India to Canada is going down in the history as one of most blunt diplomatic response by any state to another.. Good to be shared.

[sanman]

[vera_k]

Article recaps history from around 60 years ago to now. Makes a curious point about the elder Trudeau's Communist sympathies in as a way of showing independence from US foreign policy.

Why the Trudeaus have had difficult relations with India

[sanman]

[sanman]

Canada's state mouthpiece, CBC, says Canada has expelled India's high commissioner and other diplomats, after they were linked to homicides in Canada.
So they're saying Sanjay Kumar Verma, India's high commissioner to Canada, and a veteran diplomat of 36 years, is culpable in homicide.

[sanman]

Experts Comment On India-Canada Row

[chetak]

the dirtbag is back ...

Congress general secretary Jairam Ramesh said that the party expects the prime minister to take the LoP in both houses and other opposition parties into confidence regarding the issue.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 94519.html

[BhairavP]

Interesting data point - the Canadians have implicated Amit Shah in some shenanigans. Ambassador KC Singh mentioned last night on Sardesai's show that the Canadians would implicate the HM. Wonder if they're all drinking from the same pond, so to speak.