India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/1841305620852646065 ---> Washington DC: When asked about US political leaders making comments about democracy in India, EAM Dr S Jaishankar says, "...One there is the reality and second is the handling of reality. The reality is the world is very globalised and as a result, politics does not necessarily stay within the national boundaries of the country. The United States makes a special effort to ensure it doesn't. That is a part of how the US has conducted its foreign policy over the years...Some players like to shape not only the politics of their own country but try and do it globally...You write up reports about people and you spotlight countries...Democracies must be mutually respected, it cannot be that one democracy has a right to comment on another and that's a part of promoting democracy globally, but when others do that then it becomes foreign interference. Foreign interference is foreign interference, irrespective of who does it and where it is done. It is a testy area and my personal view is you have every right to comment but I have every right to comment on your comment, so don't feel bad when I do."

[Amber G.]

Opening statements of EAM Dr S Jaishankar, US Secretary of state Blinken in Washington; Blinken calls ties ambitious, EAM Jaishankar mentions about Quad grouping..

[sanman]

[hanumadu]

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/1841305620852646065 --->

The full interview of Dr S Jaishankar is here. He appears much more softer towards US in this interview. He says it is not India's intention to replace dollar but we are having to trade in other currencies out of necessity. On helping with the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, he is tempering expectations. The interviewer seems to be of Hispanic origin. As people of non-white ethnicities rise up in US strategic affairs, will they leave the white supremacist baggage behind and be more willing to accept the relative decline of the US and the emergence of a multi polar world.

[Rakesh]

The full interview of Dr S Jaishankar is here. He appears much more softer towards US in this interview. He says it is not India's intention to replace dollar but we are having to trade in other currencies out of necessity. On helping with the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, he is tempering expectations. The interviewer seems to be of Hispanic origin. As people of non-white ethnicities rise up in US strategic affairs, will they leave the white supremacist baggage behind and be more willing to accept the relative decline of the US and the emergence of a multi polar world.

Thank you for the summary. Greatly appreciated.

[SRajesh]

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/indi ... en-3218356
First time the pot is calling the kettle black
Check out!!
Good suggesting USCIRF to concentrate and look after human rights issue within US

[Amber G.]

Randhir Jaiswal's response to media queries regarding Country Update on India in the US Commission on International Religious Freedom report:

[Amber G.]

For many Americans, this has been a somewhat difficult few weeks with -- anti-Hindu temple attacks & a recent physical assault, but a remainder to celebrate this:

Governor Shapiro just released this proclamation celebrating Hindu Heritage Month in Pennsylvania!

[Amber G.]

MI: Jaishankar "You Have Us Confused for Someone Else" - India Didn't Trigger De-Dollarisation, America Did it to Itself

[hanumadu]

MI: Jaishankar "You Have Us Confused for Someone Else" - India Didn't Trigger De-Dollarisation, America Did it to Itself

"India didn't trigger de-dollarisation, America did it to itself" - To be clear, these are not Dr JS's words, but RT's inference from his words.

[sanman]

"India didn't trigger de-dollarisation, America did it to itself" - To be clear, these are not Dr JS's words, but RT's inference from his words.

Regardless of whose words these are, they're the truth.

Meanwhile, Jaishankar seems to be giving a good pushback to USA:

[Amber G.]

Durga puja was organized at the centre of Times Square, New York City

[Amber G.]

Pennsylvania Senate Bill 402 officially designating the “15th of the Hindu lunisolar month of Kartik” as “Diwali Day” just passed the PA legislature and is headed to the governor’s desk!

[Amber G.]

\ PM Modi & US Secretary of State Antony Blinken met on the sidelines of East Asia Summit in Laos. PM Modi extended condolences on the loss of lives due to Hurricane Milton.

[Cyrano]

What is blinking doing there? Must be the free dumplings

[sanman]

Is this true? Has India arrested former RAW officer Vikram Yadav at Washington's behest?

WTF is going on here?

[drnayar]

Is this true? Has India arrested former RAW chief Vikram Yadav at Washington's behest?

WTF is going on here?

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Disinfo campaign in full flow.. just mark out those news channels for "reliability "

[sanman]

Disinfo campaign in full flow.. just mark out those news channels for "reliability "

So you're saying these news reports are false?

What has happened to Vikram Yadav? Was he arrested or not?

[disha]

Pennsylvania Senate Bill 402 officially designating the “15th of the Hindu lunisolar month of Kartik” as “Diwali Day” just passed the PA legislature and is headed to the governor’s desk!

Here is the key operative word from the above Diwali Day Celebration:

Nothing in this act shall be construed as requiring an employer to treat Diwali Day as a legal or official holiday or to provide paid leave to an employee on Diwali Day solely by virtue of the date being designated under this act.

The above "Diwali Day" is great news to the 70s kind: the rosy glass tinted, kissassinger Indians who will rejoice at the few verbal crumbs thrown their way.

This does not bring forward any meaningful relations and neither bring forward major issues faced by Indians and multi-generational Indians in US and the Indian-US relations (which currently is at its bottom).

[disha]

What has happened to Vikram Yadav? Was he arrested or not?

We do not know and it is currently only in speculation. We may not even know.

[sanman]

Several Air India flights have received bomb threats, immediately following Trudeau's hot allegations against India

It's likely the Khalistanis doing these stunts, after having been fired up by Trudeau & Co:

[KL Dubey]

Pennsylvania Senate Bill 402 officially designating the “15th of the Hindu lunisolar month of Kartik” as “Diwali Day” just passed the PA legislature and is headed to the governor’s desk!

Here is the key operative word from the above Diwali Day Celebration:

Nothing in this act shall be construed as requiring an employer to treat Diwali Day as a legal or official holiday or to provide paid leave to an employee on Diwali Day solely by virtue of the date being designated under this act.

The above "Diwali Day" is great news to the 70s kind: the rosy glass tinted, kissassinger Indians who will rejoice at the few verbal crumbs thrown their way.

This does not bring forward any meaningful relations and neither bring forward major issues faced by Indians and multi-generational Indians in US and the Indian-US relations (which currently is at its bottom).

The continuous trolling and harassment of this lady poster, among others - with abusive language thrown in at regular intervals - cannot be condoned. I have reported this post. I have already described this behavior as boorish earlier. What are the moderators doing these days?

[disha]

For many Americans, this has been a somewhat difficult few weeks with -- anti-Hindu temple attacks & a recent physical assault, but a remainder to celebrate this:

Governor Shapiro just released this proclamation celebrating Hindu Heritage Month in Pennsylvania!

Pennsylvania is a swing state with Indian-Americans being the second largest asian group and the largest foreign born population in Pennsylvania.

This has significant implications, since the margin of difference (between winning and losing candidates) was just 80555. That is if 41,000 had voted for Trump, he would have won Pennsylvania.

So Josh Shapiro; who was considered for VP candidate, but not picked up since he is Jewish and has implications on Israel-Hamas war vis-a-vis Harris campaign; decided to curry favour with the Indian vote bloc by extending a sop (that too a rag) to the desis of Pennsylvania.

Hence posters must look beyond what are rags to the Indian community, particularly when anti-Hindu temple attacks and physical assaults are happening (and they have been happening more frequently). Further, there is a severe legal immigration related challenge due to per-country quotas.

It is indeed exploitative, abusive, insensitive for posters to go rah-rah on rags offered as sops to Indian community during election time. It does nothing to advance Indo-US relations when US Press Secretary goes on national TV and advises Indians to toe the Kanuck line. Like a self-appointed viceroy of India.

Hence please balance the above rah-rah hindu heritage rag with the reality:

[disha]

The continuous trolling and harassment of this lady poster, among others - with abusive language thrown in at regular intervals - cannot be condoned. I have reported this post. I have already described this behavior as boorish earlier. What are the moderators doing these days?

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[Manish_P]

How about the global beacon of righteousness aka the US of A show us, brown heathen injuns, how international cooperation works by sending over David Headly & Tahawwur Rana to India...

[nachiket]

Disha, your personal attacks here have gone too far. Take a month's vacation and cool off.

[Mort Walker]

The mess with Canada has been instigated & backed by the Biden-Harris regime. See Rohit Vats tweet in X.

5- Eye members speaking in support of Canada is basically trying to somehow put pressure back on India post the aftershock of India recalling its High Commissioner and expelling their Canadian counterparts from India.

If you listen carefully to Trudeau's latest interview on Nijjar affair, India going on the front foot put paid to the calibrated escalation drama which was supposed to pan out something like this -

(1) Canadians were going to formally name key Indian diplomats in Canada, including Indian High Commissioner in the Nijjar affair.

(2) It was going to ask India to wave off their diplomatic immunity so that they can be questioned by the Canadian authorities.

(3) This is where it gets tricky - In the name of cooperation and to show its sincerity, I think the Canadians (and Americans) actually expected India to comply with their absurd request - of waiving off diplomatic immunity, the cornerstone of global international relations.

(4) This would've seriously dented Indian global prestige, Modi's standing as a leader in India, and the Americans would've basically shown India its place.

(5) BUT - Indians went on the front foot and called the American bluff (let's just accept by now that this is all American Deep State written over it).

(6) Now, the Canadians are running around like headless chicken and their idiot of a Prime Minister is giving stupid interviews which show tell you what an idiot he is!

(7) The big Khan is getting other lapdogs to speak and air their (inconsequential) opinion on the subject.

[vera_k]

^ Per this article, the oldest extradition request pending with the USA is from 2004. So goes a way back.

Unclear what purpose the extradition treaties serve given this. Unless the idea is to keep track of criminals and limit their movement in and out of countries.

61 extradition requests pending with US in last two decades

[chetak]

these buggers are trying to get Modi ji either to do something (or not do something) at the BRICS meeting coming up soon in russia.

these are coordinated pressure tactics being brought to bear on India, along with their kaneda puppet's flop show.

Unfortunately matters seem to have escalated beyond what was anticipated resulting in the withdrawal of Indian high commissioner from kaneda, along with a number of other staff.

There will be a fallout that will also affect the amrikis.

MAD are experienced players with a real time and dynamic backup from SJ.

[Cyrano]

Rhetoric is building equating RW hindu nationalist Modi with dictator Putin. Canadian foreign minister Joly has set the ball rolling. Reports appearing about India's trade with Russia, the call for sanctions etc are not random events. West shitting BRICS

[vijayk]

https://x.com/HPhobiaWatch/status/1847684650556412012

[chetak]

Rhetoric is building equating RW hindu nationalist Modi with dictator Putin. Canadian foreign minister Joly has set the ball rolling. Reports appearing about India's trade with Russia, the call for sanctions etc are not random events. West shitting BRICS

Cyrano ji,


The debacle in haryana was the straw that broke the camels back, plus the fact that both Modi ji and Mohan Bhagwat ji clearly and openly (and both for the first time) referred to "deep state" and hostile extra territorial forces.

These two are not given to idle speculation and this narrative has also taken root in the media.

The St martin's island naval base plan is a strike against India, giving these hostile extra territorial forces both weaponized purchase and traction in the region with the added proximity of boots on the ground to show "amriki goodwill" where needed. The next step as hasina has indicated is a east timor like religion based political and military curriculum as protestant missionaries have successfully managed to convert almost the entire NE beginning even before the partition and are now actively involved in fermenting strife and sowing separatist dissensions by exploiting the very fault lines that these have wilfully and skilfully created over the past 7-8 decades

If they do all this, they won't need India's ports or even logistics based out of India

the beedi coup and hasina's ouster was a devious plan to create a hostile and contiguous region bordering India's chicken neck to set up the east timor like arrangements before the BIF strike aimed at wresting India's NE and territory deep into myanmar

The regime change business plan is now out in the open and and that is a genie that cannot be put back in the bottle, which means that the gloves are now off and so the sharp attacks on the Indian leadership are also out in the open, with the BIF media charge being led by turdeau and backed by the amriki deep state

If haryana had been lost, dilli would have come under serious siege in a matter of days with the required muscle and the numbers being provided by islamo facist cohorts, led, funded and sustained by the deep state using the khalistanias, jihadis, and the congis, just like it happened the last time. This time around however, both sides will have the advantage of hindsight to correct any lacunae but the might of the Indian state will be the dominant factor

we need to slow down the britshit FTA, just to send out a strong economic message and also cool off on the aussie trade by creating bottlenecks so as to put the BIF on notice

[Vayutuvan]

https://x.com/HPhobiaWatch/status/1847684650556412012

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That Mohammad Yunus in the last image same as the Mohammad Yunus of BD?

[Vayutuvan]

Yunus, Habib, and Pannun - a veritable Ménage à trois

[g.sarkar]

https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/ind ... on-request
India set to counter U.S. extradition request
Abhinandan Mishra, October 20, 2024
New Delhi: With reports emerging from Washington that the Biden administration will seek the extradition of Vikash Yadav, a former Indian armed forces official named by the U.S. Department of Justice and labelled ‘most wanted’ by the FBI in the alleged plot to kill Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, the Indian government is expected to request an update on its own extradition requests.
These include a significant number of most-wanted individuals either hiding in the U.S.—whose identities and details have been repeatedly shared with U.S. authorities—or those already in U.S. custody, such as Tahawwur Hussain Rana, an accused in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, where more than 160 people were killed.
Among the most-wanted terrorists and criminals operating on U.S. soil is Pannun himself, who is also on the National Investigation Agency (NIA) most-wanted list.
Officials said India is not obligated to entertain such extradition requests and will handle any potential U.S. request in the same manner as in previous cases. The officials further noted that the coordinated actions of the U.S. and Canada were ‘expected,’ ‘not surprising,’ and that they were ‘prepared’ for such measures.
It is believed that the possibility of wanted terrorists operating in Canada, a close ally of the U.S., being ‘pursued’ on the directions of other countries has unsettled the U.S. State Department, which has traditionally maintained a monopoly over such operations on foreign soil.
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Gautam

[Atmavik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGMP7zLMPK0

#India, #US Team up For Chip Wars #semiconductor #icet #indiausa #modibiden

looks like some ToT for compound semiconductors. this is beyond my limited semi's knowledge. what is this compound semi tech ? seems to be used for defense and that too by startups

[SSridhar]

https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/ind ... on-request
India set to counter U.S. extradition request
The officials further noted that the coordinated actions of the U.S. and Canada were ‘expected,’ ‘not surprising,’ and that they were ‘prepared’ for such measures.
Gautam

When Canada arrested Meng Wenzhou, the CFO of Huawei and the daughter of the founder of Huawei, China immediately jailed three Canadians. One of them was the ex Canadian Ambassador to China turned North Korean specialist, the second was an entrepreneur who was working with North Korea and the third was a Canadian teacher. China also arrested two Americans. That's the right policy.

China released them only when the US prosecutors and Meng struck a deal in 2021.

The Canadian authorities jailed Meng, who was transiting to a South American country through Canada, upon an arrest warrant issued by a US Court. In September 2021, Canada released her, again only when the US prosecutors ended their case.

In essence, the US & Canada are very close tag teams. That's why each says that they have belief in the other's judicial systems. India must treat them as one single unit when it comes to the Nijjar/Pannun case and the activities of the Khalistani terrorists and the political and law-enforcement support that they receive in both these countries.

[Manish_P]

... India must treat them as one single unit when it comes to the Nijjar/Pannun case and the activities of the Khalistani terrorists and the political and law-enforcement support that they receive in both these countries.

+1

Actually IMHO India must treat the US-UK-Canada-Australia-NZ as one single unit... the five eyes are essentially the single flaming eye of Sauron.

In the future it might well happen that Indian CEOs/Scientists transiting via Australia /Nz to clients in South America might be detained by those Oceania puppets of the US

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/ANI/status/1848754815868014801 ---> "I can confirm that there will be a bilateral meeting held between Prime Minister Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping tomorrow on the sidelines of the BRICS Summit." says Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri.

https://x.com/akki_bauer22_/status/1848805216495284496 ---> Future Chinese investment in Indian markets will scare the living daylights out of the Goras. Aur karo CC-1 nautanki, engine delays, and Kangladesh regime change.

[KL Dubey]

... India must treat them as one single unit when it comes to the Nijjar/Pannun case and the activities of the Khalistani terrorists and the political and law-enforcement support that they receive in both these countries.

+1

Actually IMHO India must treat the US-UK-Canada-Australia-NZ as one single unit... the five eyes are essentially the single flaming eye of Sauron.

Bharat sarkar/MEA high level now being composed of seasoned and nationalist professionals, I would be surprised if the MEA has not already considered these countries as strongly linked if not a "single unit" in many matters.

However, actions (both public and behind the scenes) have to be calibrated/tailored for each of them, especially in the light of specific indian interests in each country and the diaspora therein.