Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[Baikul]

Pakistan doing Pakistani things - making one uncertain which thread this belongs to: this one or BENIS. I’ll do both

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDUWrlco ... 95Zmtwbw==

[chetak]

[williams]

OMG why is the US deep state so Paki pasand? This cannot be a deal that was made with just IMF. BTW here is the inside scoop, the hotel was brought by a Saudi prince and Paki International Airlines in the year 2000 and then PIA became the sole owner. During Covid the hotel was closed in 2020 due to losses and then reopened in 2023 as a place to stay for asylum seekers and PIA got paid 220 million a year for the building with 1025 rooms.

[A_Gupta]

Fundamentalist website in Urdu run by Hafiz Saeed's younger brother:
http://www.eeqaz.org

Google Translate does not seem to work well with this site.

[Deans]

My latest blog post comparing terrorism in Pak vs Kashmir.
We know Pak's problems, but I've not seen a proper comparison done in the media, so I did it.

I was surprised to see the numbers. Keep in mind that the figures for Pak are after sanitizing by the army.

https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2024/12/pa ... oblem.html

[partha]

Pakistan unofficially issues a strategic warning to incoming Trump administration. A sign of Pakistan's rising status in international politics.

Pakistan would choose China over US if necessary: Former ambassador Maleeha Lodhi

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2515590/ex ... d-pakistan

[Aditya_V]

Pakistan unofficially issues a strategic warning to incoming Trump administration. A sign of Pakistan's rising status in international politics.

Pakistan would choose China over US if necessary: Former ambassador Maleeha Lodhi

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2515590/ex ... d-pakistan

But then all the Generals Children in Australia/UK USA will have to move to China- Beggars thinking they can be choosers

[SRajesh]

https://youtu.be/Ck8kIWMsJSc
Any idea if this is true.
Paki Anal-cysts are claiming that Indian Army conducted another cross border raid and sent few to see 72!!

[drnayar]

https://youtu.be/Ck8kIWMsJSc
Any idea if this is true.
Paki Anal-cysts are claiming that Indian Army conducted another cross border raid and sent few to see 72!!

i hope it is.. no need to publicize routine balakot style strikes

[RCase]

Pakistan unofficially issues a strategic warning to incoming Trump administration. A sign of Pakistan's rising status in international politics.

Pakistan would choose China over US if necessary: Former ambassador Maleeha Lodhi

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2515590/ex ... d-pakistan

Once again reaffirming their heeramandi tendencies of being saleable to the higher bidder.

[chetak]

Pakistan unofficially issues a strategic warning to incoming Trump administration. A sign of Pakistan's rising status in international politics.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2515590/ex ... d-pakistan

Once again reaffirming their heeramandi tendencies of being saleable to the higher bidder.

RCase ji,

or staying close to the pimp that they fear the most

[Manish_P]

Once again reaffirming their heeramandi tendencies of being saleable to the higher bidder.

RCase ji,

or staying close to the pimp that they fear the most

Or being scared that both the pimps will give their attention to the new w#@re ...

[Anujan]

Pakistan has issued its annual strong warning and ultimatum to Amreeka that if Amreeka does not give free money, arms and Cashmere to Pakistan, Pakistan will pledge all of its ports, power plants, military bases and farms to China!!

Everyone from CIA to State Department is worried!!

Pakistan: Don’t ask us to choose between the US and China
(2023)

https://www.politico.eu/article/pakista ... bani-khar/

The U.S. Is Losing a Strategic, Nuclear-Armed Ally to China
(2022)

https://time.com/6182411/us-pakistan-china-imran-khan/

The U.S. Needs a Reset With Pakistan...Disengagement also risks pushing Pakistan further into China’s arms
(2021)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/25/opin ... -khan.html

Deepening of strategic ties between India and the US...has disturbed the conventional balance in the region. Pakistan considers China’s support as critical to counter aggressive policies of the Modi government.

(2020)

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2274130/pa ... ooperation

Pakistan pushed into China’s embrace as US cuts military aid
(2018)

https://www.defensenews.com/global/mide ... itary-aid/

Pakistan looks to China as it turns away from Washington
(2017)

https://www.ft.com/content/a1802446-8bd ... 6f43c5825d

Pakistan, Russia and China: An Emerging Coalition?
(2016)

https://cscr.pk/explore/themes/trade-ec ... coalition/

US seeks to reshape ties as Chinese influence grows
(2015)

https://tribune.com.pk/story/884087/com ... ence-grows


In case you didnt read the links --

Before Amreeka approves free arms


After Amreeka approves free arms

[Manish_P]

Kiristal killear thanks to the photu

(Oh wait, this is not the BENIS thread is it)

[vonkabra]

My latest blog post comparing terrorism in Pak vs Kashmir.
https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2024/12/pa ... oblem.html

Very impressive analysis. Policy of a thousand cuts seems to have backfired spectacularly.

[SRajesh]

Any credence to the news in Swarajya about :
Paki demand from Chin for second strike capability!!
Given the changes in the Paki-Unkil equation will they acceed!!
And both the Eastern and Western borders are now hot
This is turning into a three front or to all around front

[Aditya_V]

Any credence to the news in Swarajya about :
Paki demand from Chin for second strike capability!!
Given the changes in the Paki-Unkil equation will they acceed!!
And both the Eastern and Western borders are now hot
This is turning into a three front or to all around front

Any Tech Chinese pass to Pakis will go to Americans, There are American personal to maintain F-16's and Amraams, Paki Generals Children are all in Australia, UK, USA and Canada.

China Belt and and Road has become USD 60 billion Bad debt, do the Chinese want to invest more money in their Bad, from the 60's US-UK have been trying to make China to foot the bill to keep Pakis afloat.

[chetak]

X posted from the Modi 3.0 thread


Reportedly, the pakis are trying to match India's recent K4 missile launch and capability by looking for peking to give them an equivalent weapon system.

now their jernail beggars will also honor the official paki no fly list




Pakistan Tries To Arm-Twist China Over Gwadar Port. The Plan Backfires.

Dec 19, 2024


PAKISTAN'S 'TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT' TACTICS WITH CHINA

A high-level meeting was organised recently between senior government and military officials of Pakistan and China. Deliberations and negotiations over the future use of the strategic port of Gwadar in Balochistan was being discussed in accordance with the so-called 'China-Pakistan Economic Corridor'. At this point, Pakistan, which perhaps momentarily forgot which side of the negotiating table its was sitting on, decided to flex its muscle.

Islamabad reportedly told Beijing that if it wants a military base in Gwadar, Pakistan might permit it only if Beijing is willing to arm it with a second-strike nuclear capability - catering to its age-old obsession to match New Delhi, which achieved it on its own. This tone, border-lining a threat, did not go down well with Beijing, which squarely rejected the outrageous demand and decided to put future talks on hold indefinitely over Islamabad's baffling audacity.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pakista ... es-7287324

[Amber G.]

Gems of pak!

[Manish_P]

Gems of pak!...

Shining example of inbred paki displaying lahori logic and madarssa math

[Baikul]

Meanwhile 16 soldiers killed in Waziristan.

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40338906

[A_Gupta]

Pakistan's population growth problem.
Condoms are classified as luxury items in Pakistan.
Let along population control, giving women the means to space out their pregnancies is beyond Pakistan's abilities.
https://youtu.be/O0OpOCw9gdI?si=Yr0X7G9e8VUbE9FM

[SSridhar]

(Oh wait, this is not the BENIS thread is it)

What's the difference for TSP?

[SSridhar]

Pakistan launches series of airstrikes on Afghanistan, at least 15 killed - ToI

This is happening under the immense pressure of PRC.

TSP will now pay a heavy price for this, both from the Taliban and the TTP. Of course, the BLA may also derive some schadenfreude.

The Pashtuns are at peace when they are at war - W.Churchill

TSP is, as usual, caught between the Devil and the Deep Sea

India has to be careful because when the situation becomes unbearable, both TSP & China may unleash the jihadists against us.

[jrjrao]

This can't be true, can it? What becomes of Echandee-e-izzat if this is really true?

Police verification now required for Pakistani travellers to UAE, Senate body informed

The development comes amid growing discontent among Middle Eastern states over the increased numbers of Pakistanis involved in begging that has spurred authorities into action as they have started vigilant screening of passengers travelling to those destinations.

The UAE authorities also started actively declining visas to Pakistanis who did not have enough money in their accounts to prove them as “genuine visitors”, according to travel agents.

The same page has more helpful links to earlier news:
Gulf employers not hiring Pakistanis due to ‘deplorable standard’

[sanman]

Terroristan trading blows with Taliban

Terroristan getting sanctions from USA over its ICBM program

Will US try to bring back Imran Khan into power, to help curb Pak military's missile antics?
(Why is US waking up to the missile danger so late, after having gotten Imran overthrown in the first place?)



Just like the famous geyser Old Faithful, the Great Pakistan Blowback keeps blowing back up again and again, while somehow catching the US with its pants down every time.
Now Pakistan is going the North Korean way, by developing nuclear ICBMs that can reach not only Israel but also the continental American mainland itself, thus exposing the US to an all new nuclear blackmail threat.
During the years leading up to 9/11, the US wasted its time gallavanting around Europe breaking up the former Yugoslavia by meddling in its civil war. And while the US distracted itself with that, Osama & Co were busily hatching plans over in AfPak to eventually deal the US a devastating blow on 9/11.
Once again, in a repeat of history, the USA is busy wasting its time in Europe by needlessly fomenting war between Russia and Ukraine. The US has moved up from smaller proxy wars like Croats+Bosnians vs Serbs, to now supporting bigger battles like backing Ukraine against Russia directly. And while the US distracts itself with these newer bigger indulgences, meanwhile the bigger daddy of Osama - ie. the Pak generals - are busy hatching their own bigger plans to enter the North Korean nuclear blackmail tier of brinksmanship. After all, if Kim Jong Un can get away with it, why can't they?
Shall we call this the "New Road to 9/11"?
Lenin famously said that "history repeats itself - the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce"

[Dilbu]

Afghan Taliban strike targets inside Pakistan

Afghanistan's Taliban government said on Saturday that it struck "several points” inside neighboring Pakistan.

The attacks comes days after Pakistani aircraft launched airstrikes inside Afghanistan.

One Pakistani paramilitary soldier was killed in exchanges of fire across the Afghan-Pakistani border, according to a Pakistani security source cited by the AFP news agency.

"One frontier corps (FC) soldier has been reported dead, and seven others have been injured," AFP cited the official as saying.

[sanman]

[A_Gupta]

There is a rich Pakistan and a poor Pakistan, and the rich Pakistan is posing an ever-increasing threat to India. Basically think of the Pakistani Army as an extension of the Chinese PLA, but with actual combat experience, and an insatiable urge to take revenge on India.

"RICH PAKISTAN - POOR PAKISTAN : DANGEROUS AND TOXIC AT WAR FOREVER AND OPEN HOUR / LT GEN PR SHANKAR"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrFn2f_Q2E

[Dilbu]

The Lost Decade

According to various projections, by 2030, three out of the four largest economies in the world will be from the Global South, including China, India, and Indonesia. While China’s miraculous journey to becoming an economic powerhouse is well-known, the stories of India and Indonesia hold greater relevance for Pakistan and its society.

India’s GDP in 2014 was $2.03 trillion, with a per capita GDP of $1,487. Pakistan’s GDP, by comparison, was approximately $271.39 billion, with a per capita GDP of $1,303. At that time, Pakistan was only marginally behind India in terms of per capita GDP. Indonesia’s economy stood at around $870 billion, with a per capita GDP of $3,533. By 2024, however, the growth rates and GDP figures tell a different story. For India and Indonesia, the progress has been encouraging; for Pakistan, it has been disappointing.

Between 2014 and 2024, India’s GDP doubled, currently hovering around $3.6 trillion. The gap in per capita GDP between Pakistan and India, which was roughly $100 in 2014, has now widened to $1,000. India’s per capita GDP is now approximately $2,600, while Pakistan’s has only inched up to $1,600. Indonesia also witnessed significant growth, with its GDP increasing from $870 billion to $1.3 trillion. Its per capita GDP has risen by $1,200, currently standing at about $4,600.

Pakistan, however, opted for a different path, characterised by political instability. Since 2014, the country has seen seven prime ministers come and go. This instability has had a profound impact on the country’s economic and developmental sectors. On average, Pakistan’s prime ministers have not had enough time to implement their visions for socio-economic development. The two major political parties, PML-N and PTI, attempted to introduce starkly different economic models during their short tenures, but the lack of continuity hindered meaningful progress.

In contrast, Modi and Widodo had the political stability and time to introduce and implement their respective economic visions with vigour. For instance, India launched the Smart Cities Mission in June 2015, aiming to develop 100 smart cities across the country. As of July 2024, 7,202 out of 8,018 tendered projects have been completed, utilising ₹144,530 crores of the total tendered amount of ₹164,163 crores. Similarly, Indonesia initiated the “100 Smart Cities Movement” in 2017, aiming to develop 100 smart cities by 2045. By December 2024, Indonesia has developed 25 smart cities and continues to work towards its goal.

Many developing countries in the Global South have taken significant economic leaps over the past decade, increasing their economic, political, and strategic relevance in international relations. Pakistan, however, has lost an opportunity to establish itself in the global economic sphere during 2014–2024.

[Dilbu]

Pak-Afghan ties on the edge

On December 23, after a gap of 15 months, Pakistan dispatched a high-level delegation led by Ambassador Muhammad Sadiq, the country's special representative on Afghanistan, to Kabul. The visit was part of renewed push to reset troubled ties with Afghanistan.

Pakistan virtually severed contacts with Afghanistan in the last 12 months to put pressure on the interim Afghan government to crack down on the banned TTP and its affiliates. It even did not bother to appoint a special envoy for Afghanistan for several weeks after Ambassador Asif Durrani stepped down in September. But the government and decision-makers revisited their strategy and convinced Ambassador Sadiq to rejoin as Pakistan's Afghan troubleshooter.

Sadiq is a veteran diplomat who previously served on the same position but had to leave the office after he developed differences with the previous establishment on the policy of holding direct talks with the TTP. His return to the office of special envoy was meant to give diplomacy a chance. Within days of his appointment, Sadiq managed to arrange a meeting between Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar and the Afghan acting ambassador in Islamabad. He then travelled to Kabul, breaking a year-long impasse.

[Amber G.]

Meanwhile Washington post exposes Unknown Men from RAW

Pak Media reports that India plotted to eliminate 6 terrorists on Pakistani Soil,.. since 2021.
Former ISI Chief Nadeem Anjum has reportedly begged to CIA Director William Burns to intervene..
He urged him to even halt the actions of UNKNOWN MEN ...according to the Washington Post.
https://x.com/i/status/1874687892112777349

[vera_k]

Although WaPo takes care not to credit President Obama for coming up with the idea .

Article

U.S. Special Forces assassinated Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011

[Anujan]

The article in question:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... sinations/

I have followed Gerry Shih and admire his reporting.

He makes well researched allegations and raises troubling questions: Why are Indian men killing Pakistani citizens in Pakistani soil who had killed Indian citizens in Indian soil? This kind of action of India killing alleged suspected gun violence enablers from Pakistan in Pakistani soil is contrary to International law, is Islamophobic and reeks of Hindutva, Hindu supremacy, and BJP's saffron agenda.

All responsible citizens of India, international organizations and international governments should stand up and compel the Indian government to return to yester year norms and traditions and bring up alleged suspected Pakistani terrorism related cases through dialog, dossiers and talks.

Remember that India and Pakistan have fought 3 times, are nuclear flashpoints and 800 million people make less than $2 a day. They face common challenges of poverty, climate change and unresolved boundary dispute like Kashmir.

Looking forward to reading more from Mr Shih

[Anujan]

Although WaPo takes care not to credit President Obama for coming up with the idea .

Article

U.S. Special Forces assassinated Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011

Osama bin laden, the violent terrorist who planned the 9/11 bombings was brought to justice by the brave American commandoes who raided his compound after a politically risky but principled and bold leadership and decision by President Obama. He was aided by the tireless efforts of countless dedicated intelligence agents and selfless service of men and women of American intelligence apparatus.

Bin Laden, the father of 20 children who lived a retired life in idyllic compound in Pakistan, was much reviled in far-away India where BJP in its furtherance of hindutva agenda frequently brought him up in election speeches. Born into a wealthy Saudi family, and 18th of 25 children, the scion of engineering and construction business was soft spoken, cerebral and used as an effigy in fiery hindu nationalist speeches by the Hindu nationalist BJP whose ascendance marked India's rightward shift.

[RCase]

Meanwhile Washington post exposes Unknown Men from RAW

Pak Media reports that India plotted to eliminate 6 terrorists on Pakistani Soil,.. since 2021.
Former ISI Chief Nadeem Anjum has reportedly begged to CIA Director William Burns to intervene..
He urged him to even halt the actions of UNKNOWN MEN ...according to the Washington Post.
https://x.com/i/status/1874687892112777349

Why was the head of the 'Number 1' intelligence agency in the world begging the CIA (a comparatively 'inferior' intelligence agency, per the Pakistanis) director to intervene? How is it possible that the Number 1 intelligence agency not know the Unknown men in their own country? Since Pakistan is 98% muslim, it is highly likely that it was a green-on-green team competition. The unknown men are carrying out the will of Allah and assisting their biraders to enjoy hooris in jannat. Should be all good, no? But then again there is the conundrum that a muslim cannot kill another muslim, as that is like killing the whole of humanity. So much of cognitive dissonance...

[partha]

Although WaPo takes care not to credit President Obama for coming up with the idea .

Article

Osama bin laden, the violent terrorist who planned the 9/11 bombings was brought to justice by the brave American commandoes who raided his compound after a politically risky but principled and bold leadership and decision by President Obama. He was aided by the tireless efforts of countless dedicated intelligence agents and selfless service of men and women of American intelligence apparatus.

Bin Laden, the father of 20 children who lived a retired life in idyllic compound in Pakistan, was much reviled in far-away India where BJP in its furtherance of hindutva agenda frequently brought him up in election speeches. Born into a wealthy Saudi family, and 18th of 25 children, the scion of engineering and construction business was soft spoken, cerebral and used as an effigy in fiery hindu nationalist speeches by the Hindu nationalist BJP whose ascendance marked India's rightward shift.

Pakistan's contribution to bringing OBL to justice has not been acknowledged by the rest of the world especially the US. Imagine what would have happened if Pakistan had not hosted OBL in an Abbottabad safe house? He would have vanished into the Tora Bora mountain range making it extremely difficult to pursue a continuously moving target. Pakistan ensured his movement was limited to a small compound next to a military garrison. US has neither acknowledged this nor reimbursed the expenses Pakistan incurred hosting OBL for 10 years. No wonder Pakistan has chosen to punish US by choosing China.

[RCase]

With the rule being that all acts of terrorism have a connection with the Land of the Pure, I am surprised with the lack of background information about the killer in New Orleans. All reports are pretty vague about the guy's background. To me he his looks and name seem to have Paki DNA, even though he may have been born in the US.

Waiting for the truth....

[Amber G.]

The article in question:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... sinations/

I have followed Gerry Shih and admire his reporting.

<snip>

Both the newspaper and the reporter in question appear to nurse a compulsive hostility towards India. You can see a pattern in their activities", MEA Spox @MEAIndia hits out at Washington Post reports on India

[drnayar]

The article in question:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... sinations/

I have followed Gerry Shih and admire his reporting.

<snip>

Both the newspaper and the reporter in question appear to nurse a compulsive hostility towards India. You can see a pattern in their activities", MEA Spox @MEAIndia hits out at Washington Post reports on India

maybe bezos needs to be squeezed where it hurts