Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

[Cyrano]

Chetak saar,
This problem started a couple of decades ago, and amplified from about 2010 onwards, after the 2008 financial crisis. The west realised they can print money to high heavens and wage pointless wars and get away with it, if they can control world markets and a few institutions like WTO, ICJ ityaadi. Meanwhile left leaning political currents strengthened and to become a counter weight, they had to discredit the globalist forces by making the people feel guilty for these wars and predatory globalisation a la Davos (which is not without merit) and in the process also opened flood gates to get in political refugees from the very regions they bombed to stone age.

Worked beautifully in Europe given historical affinity to socialism and welfare state ideologies, and close geo graphic proximity. Then they realised these immigrants when naturalised can become vote banks, so more gates were opened. Even the Candaians and then US Dems entered the game in a big way.

Since cultural assimilation is impossible they started talking about cultural integration, and now its just multiculturalism. Which only incentivises the immigrants to retain their identity in the sharpest way possible and claim more benefits and "family regrouping" to further increase their numbers, resulting in huge scale human trafficking.

The problem has grown so big, no one dares to confront it irrespective of right or left. These cultural immigrants have no desire and little need to assimilate by respecting laws and adjusting their behaviour to host country's culture. On the contrary most of them harbour resentment and hatred, their indoctrination makes them remember and fulminate over supposed wrongs done to their tribes or clans centuries ago, therefore keeping the grudge alive for recent wars done on their peoples or ummah comes naturally. The grudge is weaponised regularly in the form of riots and some pretext and is nurtured by despicable acts like these grooming gangs which were given time and space by cowardly, selfish and short sighted politicians.

Whats happening in UK is also happening at various levels of evolution across Europe, and if nothing drastic and ruthless is done, then they will also reach current UK levels of bestial scale and continue until all these countries themselves become the hell holes they bombed gleefully few years ago.

[Cyrano]

By the way, the clock is ticking for curbing these beasts here and now.

Because in a decade from here, the new generations of Z, millennials, alpha or whatever of scrolling addict, climate anxious, wokeism bred and antidepressants fed local people who are not even sure what they are among a hundred genders will make these countries so weak, they will no longer have any motivation or will or strength to fight to save themselves.

[drnayar]

UK is a third world country with the 6th largest economy [ city] .. London has fallen

pervasive ambient malevolence among the vast majority

[drnayar]

[S_Madhukar]

We know but this is how Sikhs stopped their women from being groomed and goras may have to learn but they have no temples (churches) where they can be preached to. No surprises that this opinion was not popular

[chetak]

We know but this is how Sikhs stopped their women from being groomed and goras may have to learn but they have no temples (churches) where they can be preached to. No surprises that this opinion was not popular



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S_Madhukar ji,


This is not entirely accurate.


They have their churches and their padres, also they are a congregational culture, but not many in the west go to church anymore, and that is their biggest problem, as well as, their weakness

[Haresh]

Exclusive: Anti-grooming gang campaigner Raja Miah (
@recusant_raja
) details how the Labour Party covered up the industrial rape of white working class British girls, in order to secure votes from Muslim communities.

"Labour are at the centre of the grooming gang cover up."

https://x.com/TPointUK/status/187476510 ... _&ref_url=

[g.sarkar]

UK is a third world country with the 6th largest economy [ city] .. London has fallen
pervasive ambient malevolence among the vast majority

Dr. Nayarji,
They are still spending a lot on defense, if they have become 3rd world.
In 2023, India spent $83.6 billion on its military.
In 2023, the United Kingdom spent $74.9 billion on its military.
Now, India is surrounded by hostile nations. That is not the case with the UK. Are they funding the NATO? Or this is a historical legacy?
Gautam

[Cyrano]

Gautam saar,
A billion $ for £ mil budget spent in UK on things like pensions, salaries, officer messes and other infra, recruitment, training, equipment, asset replacement, some r&d based on UK costs will buy you very different things compared to a same billion $ or £ spent in India on Indian costs for the same.

What might be interesting is to compare mil spend on % of GDP PPP terms.

[Haresh]

Islam & grooming gangs: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on ‘primitive’ tribal mindset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCPPmqLToks

https://x.com/FarazPervaiz3/status/1875 ... low-sharia

[chetak]

Have you seen the latest prison population nos from UK?

Despite police refusing to prosecute them for fear of #Islamophobia, Muslims who are 4%, make 18% of inmates

Hindus are 2% of population, 0% of inmates

Culture matters!

[g.sarkar]

I spent about 24 years in California Prisons and during that time I met just 3 persons of Indian origin. Now, that is not a scientific way of determining the number of Indians in prisons, but never the less there are very few Indians incarcerated in California prisons. Either we are straight or we do not get caught easily. I am sure the numbers are similar in the UK.
Gautam

[Cyrano]

https://x.com/backtoburke/status/187810 ... h3JXQ&s=19

Even health care professionals have been muzzled. Makes me think a lot of people in police, legal system, media, social services, govt and in elected positions might have been free dipping into this sordid mess. That's why no one dares to take any action whatsoever.

[Cyrano]

Just like I suspected

https://x.com/wolsned/status/1878449933 ... 6g_hw&s=19

[S_Madhukar]

Just like I suspected

https://x.com/wolsned/status/1878449933 ... 6g_hw&s=19

I guess that is one way to recruit for the loony left… must be similar on the other aisle… rare bipartisanship!

[S_Madhukar]

Many years ago an old car dealer in the Midwest joked that all sh*t culture in US comes from UK… I asked he surely didn’t mean the Beatles …
he pointed to Big Brother etc.. since then UK has graduated to Nekkid dating, tons of sleazy reality shores like Love Island ( that mesmerises even the damsels of the classes as well as masses ) and ever more slanderous Victorian costume drama remakes…
And now Bollywood and cricketers are moving in… surely more is on offer here than what Dubai offers..

No wonder that below the surface depravity has reached new depths …

[chetak]

https://x.com/backtoburke/status/187810 ... h3JXQ&s=19

Even health care professionals have been muzzled. Makes me think a lot of people in police, legal system, media, social services, govt and in elected positions might have been free dipping into this sordid mess. That's why no one dares to take any action whatsoever.

Cyrano ji,


when you see a jihadi mayor of lundun rubbing shoulders with the the elites and the upper classes, then the hoi polloi tend to get the message fairly quickly, and that includes the cops and other denizens in the ecosystem. And now, starmer has gone and knighted this jihadi paki. One has the strong feeling that the trumpwa brigade will descend on the britshits like a ton of bricks, once they are firmly in the driver's seat

If the remnants of the tattered empire loses the special status it has long enjoyed with the amrikis, it will rapidly descend into chaos and separatist forces may well seize their chances to cut loose

trumpwa was badly affected when the deep state interfered with the elections and his re election bid for the POTUS was sabotaged and tanked, so he will make a horrible example of the britshits for trying to do the same to him this time around too

But the same woke commie sickness that infected the amrikan society during the biden regime has taken root in the britshit society and those not in conformance will simply keep quiet.

[Cyrano]

They are everywhere !
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1878146817201787005

Former Labour Defence Minister Ivor Caplin has been arrested today after a sting by paedophile hunters. He allegedly attempted to meet a 15 year old boy.

[drnayar]

UK is a third world country with the 6th largest economy [ city] .. London has fallen
pervasive ambient malevolence among the vast majority

Dr. Nayarji,
They are still spending a lot on defense, if they have become 3rd world.
In 2023, India spent $83.6 billion on its military.
In 2023, the United Kingdom spent $74.9 billion on its military.
Now, India is surrounded by hostile nations. That is not the case with the UK. Are they funding the NATO? Or this is a historical legacy?
Gautam

Remember Vance saying UK could be the first Muslim nuclear power ?.. there is more to that statement than meets the eye !

[drnayar]

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240 ... ear-power/

Former US president Donald Trump's running mate JD Vance said in a speech that ‘the UK will be the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons after Labour was elected. In his speech at a National Conservatism conference, JD Vance made several remarks about the UK, focusing particularly on immigration.

July 16, 2024

[drnayar]

UK is a third world country with the 6th largest economy [ city] .. London has fallen
pervasive ambient malevolence among the vast majority

Dr. Nayarji,
They are still spending a lot on defense, if they have become 3rd world.
In 2023, India spent $83.6 billion on its military.
In 2023, the United Kingdom spent $74.9 billion on its military.
Now, India is surrounded by hostile nations. That is not the case with the UK. Are they funding the NATO? Or this is a historical legacy?
Gautam

they recently plonked down about 50 billion pounds for 4 Dreadnought-class SSBNs

[Manish_P]

1 UK pound equals about 105 INR

That helps a lot

[chetak]

Dr. Nayarji,
They are still spending a lot on defense, if they have become 3rd world.
In 2023, India spent $83.6 billion on its military.
In 2023, the United Kingdom spent $74.9 billion on its military.
Now, India is surrounded by hostile nations. That is not the case with the UK. Are they funding the NATO? Or this is a historical legacy?Gautam

Remember Vance saying UK could be the first Muslim nuclear power ?.. there is more to that statement than meets the eye!

drnayar ji,

when the whites lost control over south africa, and the blacks took over, the whites wiped out every last vestige of their nuclear weapon program, erased every last trace of their advanced nuclear nuclear program ecosystem and it was as though their nuclear weapon status as a state never existed

this was a state that helped israel to build its nuclear weapons program and all the other related advanced infrastructure that supported israel's weaponization

[Lisa]

Just like I suspected

https://x.com/wolsned/status/1878449933 ... 6g_hw&s=19

and,

Links between Peter Mandelson and Jeffrey Epstein detailed in JPMorgan report

https://archive.ph/19g6R#selection-1685.0-1685.77

and

Peter Mandelson 'honoured' to be appointed US ambassador

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvnlxxp8jko

[drnayar]

Links between Peter Mandelson and Jeffrey Epstein detailed in JPMorgan report

https://archive.ph/19g6R#selection-1685.0-1685.77

Peter Mandelson 'honoured' to be appointed US ambassador

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvnlxxp8jko

who better to oversee the destruction of UKs most consequential foreign relationship !!

[chetak]

keir starmer has not been invited (yet) for the inaugural ceremony of trumpwa.


has the cosy relationship run into trouble, asking for a friend onlee

[Cyrano]

This is a great development for the world in general. The evil ex-colonial raakshas has been weaponising its rebel child who has grown into a monster for long enough. Bharat should do everything it can to make sure the wedge stays there and is driven deeper.

[Manish_P]

^ lovers tiff

Happens every few decades or so.

It can go to serious level if and when the UK becomes Al Bartannia

[Haresh]

'Highly dangerous' prisoner  tried to kill five different guards with homemade weapons in series of attacks in jails, court hears

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... apons.html

[Haresh]

White exec wins £40,000 payout after accusing Indian boss of race discrimination when she was excluded from Teams calls

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ation.html

[Aldonkar]

keir starmer has not been invited (yet) for the inaugural ceremony of trumpwa.


has the cosy relationship run into trouble, asking for a friend onlee

Sorry for the late reply. Starmer and the Labour Party are staunch Democrat supporters. The Democrats a supposedly the left wing party in the US and Labour is the left wing party in the UK. Labour actually sent 100 members over to the US during the election campaign to help Harris in her endeavours (this is soon after Biden withdrew). Trump actually reported this as "foreign interference" in the US election and produced a letter from someone high up in the Labour Party (surnamed Patel!) to members saying that the Democrats would help these helpers with finding accommodation.

Trump winning the election has been a major embarrassment to Starmer; Trump's mother was British and he seemed to have some British leaning but the Labour Party now have a hard task of mending fences. Appointing Mandelson as the UK ambassador to the US will make that task even more difficult.

[Manish_P]

...Trump's mother was British and he seemed to have some British leaning...

So Trump is some sort of a reverse Churchill

[chetak]

When he headed Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) in 2008-13, Britain’s PM Keir Starmer legally shielded pakistani-british “grooming gangs” who raped thousands of young english girls.

Why?

pakistani-british votes swing 129 seats in UK parliament.

[chetak]

[chetak]

Keir STARMER Set to RESIGN After Shocking Revelations




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulboz8Hh6AU



Keir STARMER Set to RESIGN After Shocking Revelations LEAK on Live TV

[Tanaji]

Fake news saar.. no one is resigning…

[Manish_P]

^ It must be just me but Keir Starmer gives me Kejriwal vibes

[drnayar]

https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/art ... 7474147708

Between 1765 and 1900, $64.82 trillion left India for the UK, with more than half of it going into the pockets of the richest 10 per cent of the population, Oxfam International has said in a report.

“This would be enough to carpet the surface area of London in British £50 notes almost four times over,” said the report, released to coincide with the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Monday.

[chetak]

https://www.thetimes.com/world/asia/art ... 7474147708

Between 1765 and 1900, $64.82 trillion left India for the UK, with more than half of it going into the pockets of the richest 10 per cent of the population, Oxfam International has said in a report.

“This would be enough to carpet the surface area of London in British £50 notes almost four times over,” said the report, released to coincide with the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Monday.

drnayar ji,


This figure of $64.82 trillion is considerably more than the earlier commie generated figure of $45 trillion odd by some commie lady at JNU


The actual truth is still out there and one suspects that it will be well north of $120 to $200++ trillion, if not more. Over the many colonial centuries, a lot of treasure left for britshit shores without the knowledge of the various authorities, not to mention the plunder by the portuguese and the dutch and the french and the eyeraabs and the persians and the turks and the afghans, et al


oxfam is no friend of India, so one guestimates that $64.82 trillion is a very conservative figure


Has anyone on the forum managed to get their hands on the oxfam report under discussion, if anyone has, please be so kind as to share the same here

[Lisa]

^ Ji

https://oxfamilibrary.openrepository.co ... sequence=1

and

https://oi-files-d8-prod.s3.eu-west-2.a ... 202025.pdf