Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 30 June 2022

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Edit update: Clarifying the range is that of C295 and not of missile.
Range with 3,000 kg (6,614 lb) payload: 5,000 km (3,107 mi)
Range with 6,000 kg (13,228 lb) payload: 3,704 km (2,302 mi)
The reason for mentioning the C295 is cost and numbers. When the C390 deal happens, tanker variant that's capable of longer range could be acquired as well.
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That's the reach with C295+Su30MKI+LRAShM Combo
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Ground-launched Agni-1P (Stated Max. Range 2000 Kms), which is also an AShBM can cover Sunda Strait at its extreme from Indira Point. Let's remember three things:

1. MoD release said 'over 1500 Kms range' for LRAShM
2. The HGV can be mated on a longer range ballistic missile too.
3. The LRAShM can be carried by naval vessels.

Lombok is almost 3000 Kms.
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uddu wrote: 05 Dec 2024 20:53 Range with 3,000 kg (6,614 lb) payload: 5,000 km (3,107 mi)
Range with 6,000 kg (13,228 lb) payload: 3,704 km (2,302 mi)
The reason for mentioning the C295 is cost and numbers. When the C390 deal happens, tanker variant that's capable of longer range could be acquired as well.
That's the reach with C295+Su30MKI+LRAShM Combo
What is the assumed stage configuration for the stated result?

Are you using ROCKSIM?
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Haridas wrote: 06 Dec 2024 09:26 What is the assumed stage configuration for the stated result?

Are you using ROCKSIM?
Sorry for not mentioning the range with payload mentioned is that of C295 taken from Open source and not that of missile. So the first circle is that of the reach of C295's before returning to base. Second circle is that of Su-30 MKI refueling at that point and going further ahead with the missile. 3rd circle is the missile's reach once fired at Su-30MKI's furthest flight range. This may not be optimal. A scenario if the IAF (Su-30MKI, Rafale) or Navy (With Rafale, TEDBF) operating from A&N islands with aerial refueling support. And every circle is 1500km.

To make it work, Su-30 MKI's internal fuel capacity being 9,400 kg. Either one or two C295 need to be launched with One Su-30MKI. So there will be equal number of tankers going with Su-30 to refuel them before returning to base. This scenario is mostly possible only when taking out Chinese carrier fleet, latest high end destroyers operating in South China Sea. This need to be supported by Submarines or other assets continuously tracking them in the South China Sea. When things go south, we can go into South China Sea. A larger tanker will make it much more easier. This scenario is applicable for LRLACM as well, though success rate will be pretty less for being subsonic missile considering the air defense superiority of the Chinese in SCS. Also, the above scenario has not taken into account the overflight permission for the aircraft's over land over respective countries. The range will reduce further if that is considered. Also a Naval base with air asset deployment in an ASEAN country need to be looked into.
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ernest wrote: 05 Dec 2024 10:01 Damn, we can repeat Op Trident without sending out a single ship today.
Something I have wondered about. In the next war, can we simply blitz Karachi with Gujarat based Brahmos missiles?
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vonkabra wrote: 06 Dec 2024 13:03 ...
Something I have wondered about. In the next war, can we simply blitz Karachi with Gujarat based Brahmos missiles?
Doable. Especially with the longer ranged version
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There are too many targets for just Bramhos to take care off, Bramhos will be part of the equation, yes, but we need to hit soo many things to make thier airforce, Coast guard, electricity grid, railways, telecom, fuel and transport inoperative.
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For a long time, I was thinking about asking a question.
Is there a concept of using cheap decoy tactical ballistic missiles in the Indian military?
I meant, without using expensive seekers, inertial navigation systems and warheads. Or usage of low-cost inertial navigation systems only or its alternatives.
Their purpose is to saturate enemy SAM systems and depletion of expensive air defence missiles. I never heard any related news in the Indian military.

Decoy drones and subsonic cruise missiles may be shot by inexpensive Anti-aircraft guns. But to counter a tactical ballistic missile, you have to fire the SAM much earlier before you realise that the ballistic missile is very inaccurate. The advent of aero ballistic missiles means you can't easily predict a missile's accuracy.

I had read about indigenous chaffs and flares for aircraft and Mareech torpedo decoys etc. But never heard about an Indian decoy offensive weapon.
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Hriday wrote: 06 Dec 2024 20:40 Is there a concept of using cheap decoy tactical ballistic missiles in the Indian military?
I meant, without using expensive seekers, inertial navigation systems and warheads. Or usage of low-cost inertial navigation systems only or its alternatives.
I guess larger Pinaka variants can fill that role. Only system in the offing that will be mass produced to be cheap. I we get a variant that is cheaper (very basic guidance/no seeker) than a large SAM, that would be great.
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Aditya_V wrote: 06 Dec 2024 19:00 There are too many targets for just Bramhos to take care off, Bramhos will be part of the equation, yes, but we need to hit soo many things to make thier airforce, Coast guard, electricity grid, railways, telecom, fuel and transport inoperative.
Brahmos for SEAD, to clear way for hoards of CM for earth moving across the depth n width of enemies' resources, infrastructure.
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Haridas wrote: 08 Dec 2024 12:34
Aditya_V wrote: 06 Dec 2024 19:00 There are too many targets for just Bramhos to take care off, Bramhos will be part of the equation, yes, but we need to hit soo many things to make thier airforce, Coast guard, electricity grid, railways, telecom, fuel and transport inoperative.
Brahmos for SEAD, to clear way for hoards of CM for earth moving across the depth n width of enemies' resources, infrastructure.
Brahmos for DEAD/ SEAD - followed by a barrage of LRCM's - and DPSA like Jaguars and the Su30MKI's with truckloads of ordinance.
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Seems SFDR Last Development test was done yesterday.

India rides high as missile with cutting-edge SFDR technology tested successfully

Hopefully, Astra Mk-2 is ordered and produced soon, SFDR is also inducted within a few years to Equip the Tejas and Su 30 MKI Fleets
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Aditya_V wrote: 14 Dec 2024 11:27 Seems SFDR Last Development test was done yesterday.

India rides high as missile with cutting-edge SFDR technology tested successfully

Hopefully, Astra Mk-2 is ordered and produced soon, SFDR is also inducted within a few years to Equip the Tejas and Su 30 MKI Fleets
They're quoting range of 350km - how does that compare to rivals?

Doesn't SM3 AIM-174 do 400+ km?

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Picture of the given Astra 3 brochure is from the below link.

https://x.com/shreedharsingh9/status/18 ... YTJSg&s=19

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For reference RIM174 weights 1,500 kg vs 220 kg for SFDR.
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Nikhil_Naya wrote: 09 Dec 2024 18:27
Haridas wrote: 08 Dec 2024 12:34

Brahmos for SEAD, to clear way for hoards of CM for earth moving across the depth n width of enemies' resources, infrastructure.
Brahmos for DEAD/ SEAD - followed by a barrage of LRCM's - and DPSA like Jaguars and the Su30MKI's with truckloads of ordinance.
You forgot the mother drones releasing thousands of swarm babies !.. good enough to saturate enemy defences
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Aditya_V wrote: 06 Dec 2024 19:00 There are too many targets for just Bramhos to take care off, Bramhos will be part of the equation, yes, but we need to hit soo many things to make thier airforce, Coast guard, electricity grid, railways, telecom, fuel and transport inoperative.
Another way would be to increase range of the Prahaar series. 350-400km range would suffice to bombard Karachi from Bhuj
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drnayar wrote: 14 Dec 2024 14:51
Nikhil_Naya wrote: 09 Dec 2024 18:27

Brahmos for DEAD/ SEAD - followed by a barrage of LRCM's - and DPSA like Jaguars and the Su30MKI's with truckloads of ordinance.
You forgot the mother drones releasing thousands of swarm babies !.. good enough to saturate enemy defences
Thats going to be both ways - probably something for our AD to also contend with. CATS...
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the 350 Kms range is just fluff. These are ranges at 60k feet with both aircraft running head on at military thrust.

The real world high probability interception range is probably around 50-60 NM or thereabouts, and the MAR (minimum abort range) might be in the range of 25-30NM. This is because multiple things will happens when a missile is launched ..

a) Enemy will become aware that they are locked or their AWACS , ground controllers will detect the missile and inform them that they are under attack. Enemy will get heading and time to intercept of the missile.
b) Enemy will probably launch their own missiles if they can get a lock.
c) Enemy will take evasive actions like reducing altitude rapidly (drive) and / or go cold at supersonic speeds ( turn back at full thrust )
d) If Enemy was able to launch a missile then the attacker will likely be forced to break lock if their dive or maneuver leads to exceeding the gimbal limits of the radar. And ranges of the onboard radar for fighter sized targets are < 10NM. So, if the missile isn't close enough then it will fail to go pitbull.

In real world the AMRAAM D models can do realistic high probability interception at 30NM-40NM ranges. Hence, I am speculating that a meteor+ missile may be able to do around 50% more than that of an AMRAAM D series.
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So there are currently 400 Astra Mk1 missiles on order from the IAF to arm the Su-30MKI and Tejas Mk1 squadrons. 48 Astra Mk1 missiles on order for the IN.

Cost was $383 million for 248 Astra Mk1s and would have supported all the support equipment as well as setting up of the production line at BDL.

IAF approves additional Astra Mk1 production
The Indian Air Force (IAF) hasapproved the production of 200 additional Astra Mk 1 air-to-air missiles, an IAF source confirmed to Janes on 8 August.

According to the source, IAF Deputy Chief of the Air Staff Air Marshal Ashutosh Dixit granted the service's approval for the production during a visit to the manufacturer, Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL), in Hyderabad, South India, earlier in August. The missile first entered IAF service in 2017.

Janes understands that the approval for production will support deliveries of the missile to IAF units operating the Tejas Mk 1 and Sukhoi Su-30s. The IAF source could not specify the timeline of deliveries of the additional batch, stating that this was dependent on BDL's production schedule.

“However, we require the missiles as soon as possible,” the IAF source said.

The approval for the additional production comes nearly two years after the Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) awarded BDL a contract in 2022 to supply the 200 missiles and associated equipment to the IAF, as well as 48 for the Indian Navy, according to an MoD announcement in May 2022. The contract had a value of INR29.7 billion (USD350 million).

The Astra Mk 1 is an all-weather, all-aspect beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) developed by India's Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO). Developed under Indiaʼs Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP), the Astra Mk 1 is intended to provide the IAF with a domestic source of BVRAAM weaponry.

For more information on the missile, please seeAstra .
and the news of the first order for 248 Astra Mk1 missiles from BDL in 2022.

Indian MoD orders Astra Mk1 BVRAAM from BDL
The Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has signed a deal with state-owned Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) to acquire an unspecified number of Astra Mk I beyond visual range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAMs).

BDL said in a filing to the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE) on 31 May that the contract is worth INR29.71 billion (USD383 million), with the missiles to be supplied to the Indian Air Force (IAF) and Indian Navy.

In a statement published by the government's Press Information Bureau (PIB), the MoD said the Astra Mk I missile – designed and developed by India's state-run Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) – is being procured under the ‘Buy (Indian – Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured (IDDM))' category.

The Astra Mk I missile and all associated systems such as launch units, ground handling, and testing units are developed based on IAF requirements, the MoD said. “[Until] now, the technology to manufacture missiles of this class indigenously was not available,” it added.

The missile has been tested and integrated on the IAF Su-30MKI fighter aircraft and will be fitted to other combat platforms in a phased manner, including the IAF's Light Combat Aircraft (Tejas) and the Indian Navy's MiG-29K.

In its statement, the MoD said, “The transfer of technology from DRDO to BDL for production of the Astra Mk I missile and all associated systems has been completed, and production at BDL is in progress.”
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DRDO achieves success in final test of SFDR propulsion missile system
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states ... ile-system
13 Dec 2024
This was the third successful mission involving three different classes of missiles with indigenous technologies in a month.
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About standing committee of defense on Astra, exact statement is :
Astra Mk-I & Mk-II BVR AA Missile. To cater to deficiency in
Air to Air missiles, D&D of Astra BVR missile has been initiated by
DRDO. The delivery of Astra Mk-I missile is process and the
procurement of additional Astra Mk-I missile is under progress.
Procurement of Astra Mk-II missile is also being processed.

https://sansad.in/getFile/lsscommittee/ ... ksabhadocs
Does it really means Astra-Mk2 has gone into production, as mentioned in AD's Youtube video ?
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nash wrote: 20 Dec 2024 08:58 About standing committee of defense on Astra, exact statement is :
Astra Mk-I & Mk-II BVR AA Missile. To cater to deficiency in
Air to Air missiles, D&D of Astra BVR missile has been initiated by
DRDO. The delivery of Astra Mk-I missile is process and the
procurement of additional Astra Mk-I missile is under progress.
Procurement of Astra Mk-II missile is also being processed.

https://sansad.in/getFile/lsscommittee/ ... ksabhadocs
Does it really means Astra-Mk2 has gone into production, as mentioned in AD's Youtube video ?
As Sriram mentioned on Twitter, it may most likely mean that the process for acquiring it has begun. Which would mean RFI may have been released for it or may be in the process of being prepared. RFI to lead to AoN from CCS, followed by RFP and then contract signature.
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https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/187144 ... oS8ZQ&s=19
LRASHM KV WT scaled down test model without heat shield.

The HWT facility of the Missile complex is worth its weight in gold.

The sheer no of projects they are participating in from exotic wave rider HGV to HCM to BMD interceptors, anti HGV missile is mind boggling.
Picture from the above tweet.
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https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/187144 ... JkZbw&s=19
Dedicated hypersonic glide vehicle interceptor missile.

Long chord clipped delta wing for high L/D ratio so that the missile has a good divert capability. Plus there are strakes attached to wings for improved lift at high AoA.

This missile will be able pull atleast 50 G.
Picture of Anti hypersonic missile - missile from the above tweet. Doordarshan logo visible on top right. Any idea what is meant AD-AH? Air Defence - Anti Hypersonic?

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https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1871254027033530639
#AreaWarning #India issues a notification for a likely long range missile test in the Bay of Bengal/Indian Ocean Region
Date | 05 - 07 January 2025
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So Tejas will have the best BVRAAM in the world.

https://x.com/Chopsyturvey/status/1875732015225696628 ---> "Data Reveals India's Astra Mk3 Missile Boasts 20% Higher Ramjet Efficiency Than European Meteor, Enhancing Range and Speed."

There is news of Astra MK-IV in works as well.

DRDO to develop future ready BVRAAM with enhanced capabilities
https://idrw.org/drdo-to-develop-future ... abilities/
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Ashokk wrote: 25 Dec 2024 02:04 https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1871254027033530639
#AreaWarning #India issues a notification for a likely long range missile test in the Bay of Bengal/Indian Ocean Region
Date | 05 - 07 January 2025
K5 or K4? K5 test is delayed by 2 years.
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Ashokk wrote: 25 Dec 2024 02:04 https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1871254027033530639
#AreaWarning #India issues a notification for a likely long range missile test in the Bay of Bengal/Indian Ocean Region
Date | 05 - 07 January 2025
Is the test delayed?
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https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1876531823548960851
#AreaWarning #India issues notifications for likely missile tests around the Andaman & Nicobar Islands
Date | 15-17 & 19-20 January 2025
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https://x.com/AjayshreeSamby3/status/18 ... 9969774969
A view of Adani Defence Kanpur defence manufacturing plant.
Clearly showing ULPGM in crates ready for delivery along with its launch platform which looks like Raphe Mr 20. More than 70 drones on order and around 250 missiles.
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VIDEO: https://x.com/DRDO_India/status/1878837696497582244 ---> Nag Mk2 Anti-Tank Fire-and-Forget Guided Missile destroyed precisely all the targets at maximum and minimum range during Field Evaluation Trials at Pokhran, thus validating its firing range and making system ready for induction.

Successful Field Evaluation Trials of indigenously-developed third-generation Anti-Tank Fire-and-Forget Guided Missile ‘Nag Mk 2’
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2092585
13 Jan 2025
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About Bhargavastra anti drone missile developed by Solar group.

Bhargavastra micro missiles ready to fire
https://m.economictimes.com/news/defenc ... 245312.cms
15 Jan 2025
India has tested its first indigenous micro-missile system designed to take on the threat of swarm drones. Two firings were carried out successfully at Gopalpur Seaward Firing Ranges this week.

Being developed for the Army, the multi-layered system hit designated virtual targets at over 2.5 km, showcasing a unique low-cost option to take on large-scale drone attacks that have become a persistent threat.
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The system can simultaneously fire more than 64 micro missiles. Being developed by Economic Explosives Ltd, the system will be mounted on a mobile platform for quick deployment to a threat zone. It is designed to operate in all terrains, including high-altitude areas, to meet specific requirements of the armed forces.
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The prevalence of low-cost drones, often used in swarm configurations, has become a major challenge for armed forces that rely on expensive air defence missiles to protect key assets. The key requirement is for a low-cost system that can take down incoming drones, keeping expensive air defence systems for bigger threats.
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Rakesh wrote: 13 Jan 2025 22:32 VIDEO: https://x.com/DRDO_India/status/1878837696497582244 ---> Nag Mk2 Anti-Tank Fire-and-Forget Guided Missile destroyed precisely all the targets at maximum and minimum range during Field Evaluation Trials at Pokhran, thus validating its firing range and making system ready for induction.

Successful Field Evaluation Trials of indigenously-developed third-generation Anti-Tank Fire-and-Forget Guided Missile ‘Nag Mk 2’
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2092585
13 Jan 2025
Losing track of when Nag system will finally be inducted into the IA :twisted:

So many successful trials …
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I tried to get the Bhargavastra anti drone missile details from the Solar group website, but failed. Email verification issue.

Two comments by a major Indian military news reporting handle.
https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1879 ... VUTKw&s=19
Small solid rocket motor should be less than an autonomous UAV. As they say "powder is way cheaper in India"
There are two variants Command Guided and other one with seeker.
Simulated Target
Is the first statement above correct? The cost of a missile is mainly the seeker and navigation systems, isn't it?
As per Google AI, the weight of the missile is 2.5 kg. 16 missiles per mobile vehicle. 1-second interval between missiles firing. Can fire 64 missiles simultaneously.

ANI reported that soft kill capability will also be added to be a one-stop solution for various kinds of drone attack scenarios.

Drone detection is by radar with a 6 km range for large drones. The Optical systems will detect low RCS drones. Missile range is 2.5 km with 400 meter height ceiling.
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Yes in this case the cost of the missile will be very low - the seeker is a miniaturized seeker and will use target matching algos to perform a proximity kill. Something as simple as a closed loop chip with a optical sensor is good enough for this. Considering the range at which it shall operate it will probably be shot in a pre-calculated trajectory with minor corrections as it closes in on the target.
Hriday wrote: 15 Jan 2025 20:05 I tried to get the Bhargavastra anti drone missile details from the Solar group website, but failed. Email verification issue.

Two comments by a major Indian military news reporting handle
https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1879 ... VUTKw&s=19
Small solid rocket motor should be less than an autonomous UAV. As they say "powder is way cheaper in India"
There are two variants Command Guided and other one with seeker.
Simulated Target
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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 30 June 2022

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Nikhil_Naya wrote: 16 Jan 2025 15:51Yes in this case the cost of the missile will be very low - the seeker is a miniaturized seeker and will use target matching algos to perform a proximity kill. Something as simple as a closed loop chip with a optical sensor is good enough for this. Considering the range at which it shall operate it will probably be shot in a pre-calculated trajectory with minor corrections as it closes in on the target.
One wonders whether it can be scaled up to be an area defence weapon like the Iron Dome.
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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 30 June 2022

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Our's should remain a simple cost effective anti-drone system. The more complexity is added, cost will go up and eventually it will not be what it is meant to be. Iron dome kind of systems are more suited for small countries like Israel that is facing attacks on their population centers.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/iron-dome/

Each Tamir missile costs about $40,000 to $50,000. Possibility of a cheaper Iron Dome kind of system for border areas could be developed and used in limited numbers. As of now the comment from fauj is in the negative for such a system.
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Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 30 June 2022

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drnayar wrote: 16 Jan 2025 17:42 one wonders whether it can be scaled up to be an area defence weapon like the Irom dome
This is a good anti drone system. The Iron Dome or equivalent will need a faster interceptor missile, with good long/ medium range radar systems. In most cases this will increase the cost drastically. In this case - the missile has to fly a very short distance against what is typically a slow moving target (relatively), that means you can depend upon a ground based radar system to do most of the work for you while also ensuring that the overall cost of the system which is typically driven by the electronics (radar, etc) is kept down. The ground system will calculate the trajectory, possible kill zone based on speed of the drone and direction etc - and then launch a specified number of rockets/ missiles in that direction to get a high kill probability. From launch to hit I think the time shouldn't be more than 30 seconds. A drone moving at 50 kmph also the kill zone is 400X400 approximately. a good enough probability for a hit by a minimally maneuvering rocket barrage.
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