Understanding the US - Again

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 25 Jan 2025 20:34

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McKinley

seems Trump is following President Williams foot steps...

William McKinley (January 29, 1843 – September 14, 1901) was the 25th president of the United States, serving from 1897 until his assassination in 1901. As a member of the Republican Party, he led a realignment that made Republicans largely dominant in the industrial states and nationwide for decades. He presided over victory in the Spanish–American War of 1898; gained control of Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines; restored prosperity after a deep depression; rejected the inflationary monetary policy of free silver, keeping the nation on the gold standard; and raised protective tariffs.

wiki

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 26 Jan 2025 06:43

Dr. Nayar,

That was a different time when the US was still geographically expanding, exploiting tremendous North American resources, and expanding GNP. Trump may attempt that with AI & high technology manufacturing, but GNP is limited due to high debt rates in an already developed country. This isn't to say there won't be some success, particularly with trade, but it isn't going to replicate the past. If there are no major wars, and certainly the US can start some, over the next 100 years there will be expanding internal consumption in India, the rest of Asia and Africa.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 26 Jan 2025 09:41

Few posts taken out as they were not adding any value, if trend continues warnings will follow

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2025 21:08

US President Trump has executed an order allowing the deportation of non-citizens, including foreign students, for supporting U.S. designated terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Hezbollah on American soil.

Jewish Group Gives Trump Admin List Of ‘Pro-Hamas’ Foreign Students, Faculty To Deport

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/2 ... e-students

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 26 Jan 2025 21:20

chetak wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 21:08 US President Trump has executed an order allowing the deportation of non-citizens, including foreign students, for supporting U.S. designated terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Hezbollah on American soil.

Jewish Group Gives Trump Admin List Of ‘Pro-Hamas’ Foreign Students, Faculty To Deport

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/2 ... e-students

Might be a good time to work with the Jewish Group to highlight other Islamist & Khalistani foreign students, faculty and generally Hinduphobic hostiles in academia. Too bad Audrey Truschke can't be deported back to Europe.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2025 21:33

Mort Walker wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 21:20
chetak wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 21:08 US President Trump has executed an order allowing the deportation of non-citizens, including foreign students, for supporting U.S. designated terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Hezbollah on American soil.

Jewish Group Gives Trump Admin List Of ‘Pro-Hamas’ Foreign Students, Faculty To Deport

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/2 ... e-students
Might be a good time to work with the Jewish Group to highlight other Islamist & Khalistani foreign students, faculty and generally Hinduphobic hostiles in academia. Too bad Audrey Truschke can't be deported back to Europe.

Mort Walker ji,

Remember how Indian courts reacted to similar case?

Calcutta HC set aside a ''Leave India'' notice issued to a Polish student by the Centre for participating in an anti-CAA rally in Kolkata, terming it a "paranoid over-reaction"

https://ndtv.com/india-news/kolkata-cou ... on-2197021

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 26 Jan 2025 21:57

That didn't take long to start up.

A free California? Trump visits as initiative to leave U.S. cleared to gather signatures

If 50% of registered voters participate in the November, 2028 election and at least 55% of them vote yes, a commission would be created to report on the state's viability as an independent country.

If California were a country, its economy would rank fifth internationally, behind only the U.S., China, Germany, and Japan.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 26 Jan 2025 22:34

Hollywood already dreaming about civil war

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2025 23:12

Former US State Department official Mike Benz revealed that Reuters received $300 million in contracts from the Biden administration.

Reuters first targeted @elonmusk, then moved to Adani Group, running 90+ hit pieces in just a month.

Adani CFO just called this out, and rightly so.

When you follow the money, you find the agenda: Reuters is paid to attack those who don’t align with their paymasters’ interests.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 26 Jan 2025 23:20

vera_k wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 21:57 That didn't take long to start up.

A free California? Trump visits as initiative to leave U.S. cleared to gather signatures

If 50% of registered voters participate in the November, 2028 election and at least 55% of them vote yes, a commission would be created to report on the state's viability as an independent country.

If California were a country, its economy would rank fifth internationally, behind only the U.S., China, Germany, and Japan.

From the above article:

Could California secede from the United States?

The short answer is no – there's no legal way for California to secede from the United States.

Section 1 of Article III of the current State Constitution states that California “is an inseparable part of the United States of America.”

In addition, the U.S. Constitution doesn't provide any legal method for a state to secede – that's why the Civil War was fought, killing as many as 620,000 Americans.

California's State Constitution very clearly says the the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Meaning if the Constitution says it can't be done – which it does – then secession is impossible.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 26 Jan 2025 23:37

I am reading this as a counter and delaying tactic for any proposed amendments to the US constitution that California disagrees with.

Amending the California constitution is not that high a hurdle given one party has had a 2/3rds majority in the legislature for a while.

California constitution

The current California Constitution was adopted in 1879.
California has had two state constitutions.
The current state constitution has 35 articles.
The current constitution has been amended 524 times.
Voters last approved a new amendment to the California Constitution on November 5, 2024

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2025 01:04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iN6r0E5FXw

Niall Ferguson: What Happens to the Dollar if We Lose Taiwan?

The video is about 1:18 minutes long

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 Jan 2025 04:54

vera_k wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 23:37 I am reading this as a counter and delaying tactic for any proposed amendments to the US constitution that California disagrees with.

I heard/read somewhere that Trumpist legislators are planning to introduce a bill to bifurcate California. Thi is in response to Dems call for making DC a state. In the latter case, Dems will gain two senators for ever. GOP wants to claw back that advantage by bifurcating CA maybe vertically. That way they also have more presidential electoral votes on top of senators.

As for the EO on Birthright citizenship issue, Prof. Turley and Dupree were saying that they want this issue to come in front of the SCOTUS just before mid-terms. They want to use it as a wedge issue. One argument they are putting up is that when 14th amendment was ratified the situation was different from what it is now.

One person on FNN is saying that there are ~250K birthright citizenships from birthright tourism by the parents. There are also a large number of high-officials from CCP who used this route to have an anchor baby or three in the US.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 Jan 2025 05:00

drnayar wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 22:34 Hollywood already dreaming about civil war

[img...]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... oster.jpeg[/img]

Written and directed by Alex Garland

Hmm. Any relation to the former AG Merrick Garland, I wonder.

williams · Post by **williams** » 27 Jan 2025 05:17

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 04:54
vera_k wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 23:37 I am reading this as a counter and delaying tactic for any proposed amendments to the US constitution that California disagrees with.

I heard/read somewhere that Trumpist legislators are planning to introduce a bill to bifurcate California. Thi is in response to Dems call for making DC a state. In the latter case, Dems will gain two senators for ever. GOP wants to claw back that advantage by bifurcating CA maybe vertically. That way they also have more presidential electoral votes on top of senators.

As for the EO on Birthright citizenship issue, Prof. Turley and Dupree were saying that they want this issue to come in front of the SCOTUS just before mid-terms. They want to use it as a wedge issue. One argument they are putting up is that when 14th amendment was ratified the situation was different from what it is now.

One person on FNN is saying that there are ~250K birthright citizenships from birthright tourism by the parents. There are also a large number of high-officials from CCP who used this route to have an anchor baby or three in the US.

No saar, constitutionally, federal congress cannot bifurcate a state without the states consent Both the state legislative bodies in CA are dominated by Democrats and even state Republicans wont commit political suicide for such a cause.

Birthright Citizenship issue is a slam dunk lost cause. Trump could try to amend the constitution and see how much support he has for this issue. 27 of 50 states have republican dominated legislatures, but it is a huge fight that will derail the presidency. I think Trump simply did it to show some symbolism and to rally the MAGA crowd. It will just fizzle, but he will get two news cycles of attention.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2025 05:55

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2025 07:30

williams wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 05:17
Vayutuvan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 04:54

I heard/read somewhere that Trumpist legislators are planning to introduce a bill to bifurcate California. Thi is in response to Dems call for making DC a state. In the latter case, Dems will gain two senators for ever. GOP wants to claw back that advantage by bifurcating CA maybe vertically. That way they also have more presidential electoral votes on top of senators.

As for the EO on Birthright citizenship issue, Prof. Turley and Dupree were saying that they want this issue to come in front of the SCOTUS just before mid-terms. They want to use it as a wedge issue. One argument they are putting up is that when 14th amendment was ratified the situation was different from what it is now.

One person on FNN is saying that there are ~250K birthright citizenships from birthright tourism by the parents. There are also a large number of high-officials from CCP who used this route to have an anchor baby or three in the US.
No saar, constitutionally, federal congress cannot bifurcate a state without the states consent Both the state legislative bodies in CA are dominated by Democrats and even state Republicans wont commit political suicide for such a cause.

Birthright Citizenship issue is a slam dunk lost cause. Trump could try to amend the constitution and see how much support he has for this issue. 27 of 50 states have republican dominated legislatures, but it is a huge fight that will derail the presidency. I think Trump simply did it to show some symbolism and to rally the MAGA crowd. It will just fizzle, but he will get two news cycles of attention.

williams ji,

It would be wiser for us to not go by what trump says

What we should be watching for is the intent

Regarding birthright citizenships, trumpwa knows the amriki constitution better than anyone in India, and if he needs advice, he has a vast array of amriki constitutional experts lined up and at his beck and call

do we really think that he is a dumb redneck who is unaware of the relevant articles of the amriki constitution relating to birthright citizenships

He has said what he did in spite of what everyone here has pointed out to the contrary. This man has twice been elected the POTUS, need one say more ... This guy is street smart in a geopolitical way and his bluster is the smokescreen gives him the option to zig and zag, to shift gears on the go, and to choose the option best suited for his amrika

regarding the birthright issue, one thinks that trumpwa is looking to pass a particular amendment to the law or specific provision incorporated into the law, possibly limiting the scope and allowing the denial of birthright citizenship, say for tourists, for example or chinese or jihadis or whatever

the deep state badly underestimated him and by the time he is done with them, they would have been deeply and immeasurably damaged. Rumours say the obummer has been dipping the wick and if it is true, trumpwa will bury him along with his insufferable bitter half and much of the deep state entrenched in the innards of the bureaucracy in the US govt and the various pillars of the state

The attacks on europe and britshitistan is because a lot of the global deep state originates there. He needs to protect the dollar and ensure it's continued primacy

look at the way he is tackling the illegal migration and deportation issue. kaneda (where he deliberately set out to sink turdeau and he succeeded with such ease) and mexico have both very quickly backed off on the open borders issue. He has crucified colombia and they will fold quickly or pay the price, which they can ill afford

Has any world leader of this stature (or any other stature) done this. His methods may not be diplomatic and purists would even say they are crude, but no one can deny that his methods are effective and that he is deadly serious when he says MAGA and America first

He picked colombia on purpose. This action of his has signalled his intent and this morning when various countries wake up, their leaders are going to be sitting in the toilet a lot longer than they expected, and their individual dosage of their hypertension meds would have been doubled, at the very least, by their anxious doctors

India has already agreed to accept approx 18k of their citizens back, more will surely follow. Jaishankar got advance notice of the game plan and did what was best for India. That was the smart play

ditto for the panama canal, greenland, kaneda, mexico, britshitistan, europe, russia, the middle east and ukraine etc, where he has lit fires but we don't see the end game, or try to figure out the intent of the objectives behind the statement but naively focus only on the flames.

All these little fires say only one thing: AMERICA FIRST.

and in every case, trumpwa will get what he wants, which is AMERICA FIRST. period

he is not only showing us his big stick but he is not speaking softly either

colombia is small and insignificant, but the reverberations of trumpwa's actions will be felt world wide.

Just imagine how the pakis, the beedis and many other jihadi illegal migrants and their countries of origin would be feeling right now. What if others also use these tactics to keep the jihadis out and push back the jihadis already in those gora countries

In each and every case, trumpwa is moving the overton window and, he will shift it to a position where he wants that specific window to be

US President Trump has just announced a massive emergency tariffs of 25% (50% after a week) and sanctions on Colombia after they denied deportation flights of their own citizens.

Trump also halts visa services in Colombia

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/26/poli ... index.html

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 27 Jan 2025 08:36

suryag wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 09:41 Few posts taken out as they were not adding any value, if trend continues warnings will follow

Thanks. I only responded "in kind" to a couple of posts targeting me without any basis/thought. As the years pass I have focused more on substantive/researched posts (quality over quantity), hoping to maintain the value of the forum.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 27 Jan 2025 09:32

@chetak ji .. Trumps America first is fueled by rage by a person who had been arrested and done so many things no other ex president in living memory had. He doesn't care a flying £uck about any country and he will be coming after every country for any reason whatever .

Apparently Colombia was done over a morning's golf ! .. quite an improvement over sleepy Joe.

williams · Post by **williams** » 27 Jan 2025 10:01

We need to learn a bit from this guy

Especially when dealing with the Bedis. Columbia now agrees to accept the migrants

Funny Columbia major exports to US is crude and coffee. They know that there are other competitors who can fill their small market space quite easily. This guys has effectively weaponized trade.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 27 Jan 2025 10:08

Apparently Greenland not done ..yet

https://on.ft.com/3Eb4vVk

Paywall

- US President Donald Trump has ridiculed Denmark’s attempts to defend Greenland with additional patrols including two extra dog sleds as he insisted America would take control of the strategically crucial Arctic island

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 27 Jan 2025 10:18

williams wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 10:01 We need to learn a bit from this guy Especially when dealing with the Bedis. Columbia now agrees to accept the migrants Funny Columbia major exports to US is crude and coffee. They know that there are other competitors who can fill their small market space quite easily. This guys has effectively weaponized trade.

Guys please note

The Colombian presidents request was a sane one : don't send our citizens handcuffed and in military flights like criminals just send them back in civilian flights...

Now what would India have done ?!

That's the answer why beediland continues as a problem.

You want rice : have some
You killing Hindus: "noises" ..no real action
You chummy with ISI..well ?!

Sri Lanka just kicked adani out, sinopec s petrochemical plant being expedited

Cheens belt road picking up with gwadar airport inauguration

Bhutan lost around 5 percent territory to China

One of india s biggest bug bears to industrialisation: lack of land !

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2025 10:33

drnayar ji & williams ji,

We are getting there guys.

trumpwa is a very complex personality with frequent flashes of brilliance. His bluster frequently throws up a smoke screen to cover his moves while he is working out the odds and options.

trumpwa is brilliant at the theatrics of politics, the showmanship, and his performative politics is the USP that shines through. This guy can change his mind on a dime.

His strength is that he treats his supporters like his fans and the fans love him back and the fact that he genuinely doesn't give a rats behind what anyone thinks of him allows him the freedom to be true to himself.

He is also that genre of politician who, today, inspires hatred and scorn, because like Modi ji, trumpwa is a nationalist

Like a magician, his unconventional moves are made after he has diverted attention.

He may not be an "intellectual" in the common definition of the word but one would bet good money that he would easily out smart most, if not all, of these academic dead weights who masquerade as political advisors to other big time politicians

unlike his first term, he does not place any more trust on the swamp or even rely on them for anything.

His recent purges have shaken the very core of the tribe of the amriki baboo(ns) and the remaining mediocre time servers will mostly and quickly fall in line

ricky_v · Post by **ricky_v** » 27 Jan 2025 10:35

drnayar wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 10:08 Apparently Greenland not done ..yet

https://on.ft.com/3Eb4vVk

Paywall

- US President Donald Trump has ridiculed Denmark’s attempts to defend Greenland with additional patrols including two extra dog sleds as he insisted America would take control of the strategically crucial Arctic island

dr nayar, a quick tip to bypass the paywall, save the links in archive (dot) is or ph
in either case, its a good policy to not give publications like ft any legitimate traffic

https://archive.is/sdyvv

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 Jan 2025 10:46

ricky_v wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 10:35
drnayar wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 10:08 Apparently Greenland not done ..yet

https://on.ft.com/3Eb4vVk

Paywall

- US President Donald Trump has ridiculed Denmark’s attempts to defend Greenland with additional patrols including two extra dog sleds as he insisted America would take control of the strategically crucial Arctic island
dr nayar, a quick tip to bypass the paywall, save the links in archive (dot) is or ph
in either case, its a good policy to not give publications like ft any legitimate traffic

https://archive.is/sdyvv

ricky_v ji

This is his opening bid.

In the end, all he needs is a permeant (like forever) amriki base in greenland to keep an eye on the russkis

and denmark knows that very well

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 27 Jan 2025 11:53

The US has had Thule USAF Air Base in Greenland since 1943.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 27 Jan 2025 12:46

Mort Walker wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 11:53 The US has had Thule USAF Air Base in Greenland since 1943.

Yes. Interestingly, the base was renamed from Thule Air Base to Pituffik Space Base in 2023 to recognize "Greenlandic cultural heritage" and better reflect its role in the US Space Force !)

(Located on the northwestern coast of Greenland, it's the US Department of Defense's northernmost installation, about 750 miles north of the Arctic Circle ..., providing support for vital space-based missions, including missile warning, missile defense, and space surveillance)

BTW Denmark some time ago was interested in having India establish a research station in Greenland.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 27 Jan 2025 13:35

Mort Walker wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 11:53 The US has had Thule USAF Air Base in Greenland since 1943.

US likely wants a naval base and wants access to its natural resources, that trumps goal...so he starts off with i want the whole island..then let's negotiate.. poor Danes, this is just old fashioned business dealing !!

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jan 2025 20:29

I’ll am touched that tiny Danmark would be so solicitous of Greenland Inuit welfare.

Are the Danes still taking vetting them for the right to reproduce and kidnapping their kids and hen they fall short of civilised standards of child rearing?

Funny how I don’t read that in the NYT

bala · Post by **bala** » 28 Jan 2025 02:17

This how the chinese manage to flood the US with their cheap goods. Smuggling bust: $200 M in LA (Los Angeles) ports smuggling ring. Meanwhile the crackdown on illegals who have flooded Los Angeles city continues as well as other cities like Chicago, New York, etc. Bidenwa shipped busloads of those who came via Mexico-Kalifornia and Mexico-Texas to various cities/states within the US. Finding those 20 M is a tall task but hopefully with Kristi Noem as homeland security, the process will be streamlined and such illegals will be whisked away from the US. Many in the US are applauding the swift implementation of DJT EOs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRLaAYZvfXo

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 28 Jan 2025 02:43

Kati wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 23:20
vera_k wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 21:57 That didn't take long to start up.

A free California? Trump visits as initiative to leave U.S. cleared to gather signatures

From the above article:

Could California secede from the United States?

The short answer is no – there's no legal way for California to secede from the United States.

Section 1 of Article III of the current State Constitution states that California “is an inseparable part of the United States of America.”

In addition, the U.S. Constitution doesn't provide any legal method for a state to secede – that's why the Civil War was fought, killing as many as 620,000 Americans.

California's State Constitution very clearly says the the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Meaning if the Constitution says it can't be done – which it does – then secession is impossible.

And druggies under influence cannot fight a war.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 28 Jan 2025 06:55

chetak wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 10:33 trumpwa is brilliant at the theatrics of politics, the showmanship, and his performative politics is the USP that shines through. This guy can change his mind on a dime.
...

That is the problem I see with him. He has toned down personal attacks and body shaming this time around. We have to wait and see how long this is going to last.

For example, he promised that he would not pardon Jan6th "perpetrators" whole sale. JD Vance reiterated the same as well as another (nominated) cabinet member. But then he did exactly that making JD Vance and the other person look stupid.

Now this speculation about why he is making a big deal about Panama canal control.

bala · Post by **bala** » 28 Jan 2025 08:39

Trump's roundup of illegals is now reaching gurdwaras in NY. DJT is principally going against criminals first and then all the illegals will be rounded up. The Kanada angle comes to mind withTrudoodoo fingering India with Khalistan backing. Kristi Noem is in charge of homeland security and Tom Homan is border czar and between the two of them the round up will be thorough and detailed. The cost of this operations is going to be in the billions. PGuru explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBjpSXwkamE

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 28 Jan 2025 09:14

Well that's going to be tricky. Wonder how they will identify Canadians, Pakistanis, British versus Indians at the gurdwaras.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 28 Jan 2025 09:23

bala wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025 08:39 Trump's roundup of illegals is now reaching gurdwaras in NY.

and Chicago it seems.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 28 Jan 2025 09:24

vera_k wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025 09:14 Well that's going to be tricky. Wonder how they will identify Canadians, Pakistanis, British versus Indians at the gurdwaras.

Photos? Criminal records? Fingerprints? ...

AkshaySG · Post by **AkshaySG** » 28 Jan 2025 09:29

That has always been the risk with any such "roundups" You will likely get quite a few legal immigrants in the net along with the other fishes.

Now some may argue that eventually due process kicks in and the legal ones are weeded out but as anyone who has dealt w US Federal agencies or cops can attest they can make even the most routine procedure quite jumpy and harassment like. Even legal immigration can take time to prove if you don't have some xyz document on hand.

But with the #s they have been given as deportation targets there really is no other alternative that would work to get these done

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 28 Jan 2025 09:33

Thinking more that some terrorists will throw away papers and pretend to be Indians to gain entry to the country. Folks like Nijjar and Pannun got out before biometrics were captured via Aadhar and can try to get back this way.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Jan 2025 10:50

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025 07:03 @Yagnasri gaaru, I am saying the same thing. But as an Amru citizen. I don't have a problem taking racism and then fight back. When India is strong, PIOs would be strong as well. That said, India might need PIOs sometimes like when India floated USD 3 billion bonds post nuclear test sanctions.

India can use PIOs for sanction busting. If India wants a transactional relationship then that is what PIOs would also ask for. No?

There is no idea of having any transactional relationship in PIOs. The problem is that few people are pushing for shortcuts. That kind of action seriously damages the image of PIOs or Indians in general. The entire HIB visa thing lost its name because of the shortcuts. We may need a new process with sound checks and balances to stop the mischief.

ricky_v · Post by **ricky_v** » 28 Jan 2025 16:35

chetak wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025 10:46
ricky_v ji

This is his opening bid.

In the end, all he needs is a permeant (like forever) amriki base in greenland to keep an eye on the russkis

and denmark knows that very well

i remain unsure on trump's end goal for this one chetak sir, might be that he is shooting straight and he wants the island in its entirety, the following article mentions some geogrpahic logic to this thought, i personally believe that he is firming us presence on the artic circle for its inevitable thawing and accessible shipping routes:

https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/geo ... nd-future/

Strategic Implications

The GIUK Gap remains a linchpin of NATO’s defense architecture, functioning as a critical maritime chokepoint for detecting and deterring adversarial naval activity. While advancements in Russian long-range strike capabilities have reduced the necessity for submarines to transit the gap for direct attacks, its strategic relevance endures. As a natural bottleneck, it offers NATO forces a prime vantage point for tracking both surface and subsurface movements, ensuring secure transatlantic reinforcement corridors in times of crisis.

The potential disruption of these maritime routes—whether through submarine interdiction, hybrid warfare, or cyber-enabled threats to naval logistics—poses a direct challenge to NATO’s ability to project power and reinforce its European allies in time-sensitive scenarios. Recognizing these risks, NATO has prioritized maritime domain awareness and force projection in the North Atlantic. The reactivation of the US 2nd Fleet and the establishment of NATO’s Joint Force Command Norfolk signal a renewed commitment to securing transatlantic sea lines of communication (SLOCs) against emerging threats.

As great-power competition sharpens in the maritime domain, the GIUK Gap remains a geostrategic fulcrum, where NATO’s ability to maintain deterrence and maritime superiority will shape the future balance of power in the North Atlantic and beyond.