Understanding the US - Again

[Manish_P]

Breaking News!

Vladimir Putin has offered to mediate a peace deal between Trump and Zelenskyy.

[chetak]

[chetak]

Is this an end of Rules-Based Order?



Trudeau to Zelenskyy :

"Hum Bhi Pele Gaye the Tum bhi Pele jaoge ! "

[drnayar]

Is this an end of Rules-Based Order?



Trudeau to Zelenskyy :

"Hum Bhi Pele Gaye the Tum bhi Pele jaoge ! "

baniansky has absolutely no dress sense.. millions probably billions salted away !!

[chetak]

[A_Gupta]

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/ho ... ccountable
Understanding the American voter.

[A_Gupta]

America’s five failures:
https://snyder.substack.com/p/five-fail ... irect=true

[A_Gupta]

> Yet he decided to wear some stupid dress

It is an Indian tradition, Ji, ever since MK Gandhi appeared in langoti in front of the UK monarch. Over Jinnah's objections about admitting thousands of ill-dressed people into the Indian National Congress, MKG threw open the doors of membership over a hundred years ago.

Zelenskyy has learned from Vishwaguru India, why do you object?

[A_Gupta]

I'll further add that the Europeans and Ukraine are learning now what India has known all along and Pakistan learned the hard way - the US is not a reliable ally.

The PM Modi approach of partnership but no alliance is the correct one.

[chetak]

Trump Administration Imposes Lifetime Visa Ban on Transgender Athletes

March 01, 2025,

Trump Administration Imposes Lifetime Visa Ban on Transgender Athletes

President Donald Trump has ordered a strict visa ban on transgender athletes, preventing them from competing in US sports events, including the 2028 Olympics.

The policy enforces a lifetime ban for those who "misrepresent" their birth sex on visa applications.

Visa officers must scrutinise birth certificates and track cases under a special designation.

The order also impacts women's leagues like the NWSL and WNBA.

Republicans claim it protects fairness in women’' sports, while LGBTQ+ advocates call it discriminatory.

Schools allowing transgender athletes could lose federal funding.

With the 2028 Olympics approaching, global reactions to Trump's controversial policy remain uncertain.

[bala]

The two Generals (Rajiv Narayanan, Ravi Shankar) of Indian army are discussing the post trump zels blowout on US media.

youtube.com/watch?v=aYCo77YdfoE

The minerals deal is really targeted against China. The US might have fangs both in Ukr and Russia for minerals (uranium from Rus was not under sanction). The pacific region is being bolstered by the US. Moreover, the US state dept has removed the phrase "no independent taiwan" in its china policy. China is being targetted with tariffs, mexico and canada being its two conduits for china made products. The Arctic region is also another area where China will be precluded, with US and Russia ruling over the region, hence Canada/Greenland are in the equation by the US. China's stake in the middle east will disappear, since Iran is now being targetted by the US.

For India, the Rus - China relationship will weaken and tis very good for India. India could also have presence in the Arctic via Russia. The Chinese are looking very lost with DJT in charge of the US.

[KL Dubey]

> Yet he decided to wear some stupid dress

It is an Indian tradition, Ji, ever since MK Gandhi appeared in langoti in front of the UK monarch. Over Jinnah's objections about admitting thousands of ill-dressed people into the Indian National Congress, MKG threw open the doors of membership over a hundred years ago.

Zelenskyy has learned from Vishwaguru India, why do you object?

I didn't see Modi wearing a suit during his visits either. I guess this "disrespect of dress code" issue with Zelenski is not on principle but individually targeting him and his behavior.

[Tanaji]

^^ Do you not think there is a difference between someone wearing a Nehru suit type dress ( which most Indian leaders have been wearing for decades) and someone wearing a Rupa/Sando/VIP banian? Plus its not as if Baniansky does not wear suits - there are pics of him wearing it with leaders. He wanted to make a statement but got called out, rightly or wrongly.

Banisnsky can wear what he wants but equating an Indian leader wearing a traditional Nehru suit with a banian is a bit much.

[chetak]

The two Generals (Rajiv Narayanan, Ravi Shankar) of Indian army are discussing the post trump zels blowout on US media.

youtube.com/watch?v=aYCo77YdfoE

The minerals deal is really targeted against China. The US might have fangs both in Ukr and Russia for minerals (uranium from Rus was not under sanction). The pacific region is being bolstered by the US. Moreover, the US state dept has removed the phrase "no independent taiwan" in its china policy. China is being targetted with tariffs, mexico and canada being its two conduits for china made products. The Arctic region is also another area where China will be precluded, with US and Russia ruling over the region, hence Canada/Greenland are in the equation by the US. China's stake in the middle east will disappear, since Iran is now being targetted by the US.

For India, the Rus - China relationship will weaken and tis very good for India. India could also have presence in the Arctic via Russia. The Chinese are looking very lost with DJT in charge of the US.

bala saar,


This is what the amrikis are targeting and need ports in the region to enforce naval blockades


The Chennai-Vladivostok sea route will cover a distance of about 5,600 nautical miles.

"The Eastern Maritime Corridor between Vladivostok and Chennai is operational now.

Container ships carrying crude oil, metal and textile have started coming to Indian ports.

It reduces the distance between Asia and Europe by 10-14 days compared to the Suez Canal route".

trumpwa has surely cut a deal with the deep state





this is from the ORF website

Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Russia on a state visit to attend the 22nd India-Russia Bilateral Summit between 8-9 July 2024. This was his first visit to Russia, since 2019. Among the nine Memoranda of Understanding (MoUs) signed between the two countries, are the “India-Russia cooperation in trade, economic, and investment spheres in the Russian Far East for the period from 2024 to 2029” and the “Cooperation principles in the Arctic zone of the Russian Federation.” These MoUs details the partners’ vision and road map for developing the Northern Sea Route and the Russian Arctic region at large. The Northern Sea Route (NSR), a maritime route in the Arctic Ocean that connects the Pacific and Atlantic oceans through the Arctic, is piquing the interest of numerous nations—India, Russia, and China, in particular. It promises to reduce the distance between Asia and Europe by 10-14 days compared to the Suez Canal route.

Source: The Arctic Institute





Source: JAPAN Forward

[drnayar]

The two Generals (Rajiv Narayanan, Ravi Shankar) of Indian army are discussing the post trump zels blowout on US media.

youtube.com/watch?v=aYCo77YdfoE

The minerals deal is really targeted against China. The US might have fangs both in Ukr and Russia for minerals (uranium from Rus was not under sanction). The pacific region is being bolstered by the US. Moreover, the US state dept has removed the phrase "no independent taiwan" in its china policy. China is being targetted with tariffs, mexico and canada being its two conduits for china made products. The Arctic region is also another area where China will be precluded, with US and Russia ruling over the region, hence Canada/Greenland are in the equation by the US. China's stake in the middle east will disappear, since Iran is now being targetted by the US.

For India, the Rus - China relationship will weaken and tis very good for India. India could also have presence in the Arctic via Russia. The Chinese are looking very lost with DJT in charge of the US.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 33475.html

also

Indian icebreakers in the Arctic: cooperation for the coming decades

https://arctic-russia.ru/en/article/ind ... %20future.

[bala]

On the arctic routes: India and Russia have signed agreements to facilitate the use of each other's naval and military bases for refuelling, repairs, and resupply. This is similar to the ones with the Quad members, especially the US with India. So there is tight cohesion between India and the Arctic circle resources.

Actually Russia has more mineral deposits than Ukr/China, however it have not been tapped since it requires investment. There is also a parallel activity to mine the sea beds for minerals.

[bala]

One of the things emerging for India from the US is that DJT wants India to manage the Indian ocean region and its neighbors. This requires India to wield the danda more effectively and nations like BD, Bhutan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Maldives toe the Indian line, maybe inducted into the Union of Bharat. Paks will disintegrate on their own. US is more concentrated on the pacific corridor and managing the China threat. One nation North Korea is emerging as a kingpin in the region. North Korea has Russian satellite links instead of China for its navigation needs. They (NK) are helping in the war fo Ukr-Rus too. The IMECC corridor is another area wherein the ME players will boot out China's BRI BS. Israel, Greece (note: Turkey and Iran will be cut off from this corridor) and others will benefit, India is of course the key. DJT is fine with such economic moves. DJT and Rubio will kick out china influence in South America, panama canal will be taken over soon. Columbia is disentangling with China. The Chinese influence in South America will start to dwindle. All these multi-prong moves by the US against China is advantage for India. I hope India presses for Tibet independence and have DJT support.

[Mort Walker]

The “soot-boot-tie” is a European official dress. It’s also the official dress of men in China & East Asian countries. So it’s inappropriate that Zelenskyy comes dressed like coming back from playing pretend soldier.

[Tanaji]

For those based in the US, what is the public perception of Ukraine conflict? Is it marked indifference or is there lots of popular support for Ukraine? Is Baniansky really popular as social media makes him out to be?

[Kati]

The public mood for Banisky / Pakrine is “indifference” after three years of constant media bombardment fed by the deep state. The public is now asking what’s the outcome after pouring in 309+ billion $$$. When the egg price has shot up from $1 per dozen to $6 per dozen due to bird-flu culling (in CA it is $10+ per dozen ) public is in no mood to pour more money in the leaky bucket, especially when they are now being told that Oirope should put more money on the table. . . . . Public is having a Pakriane fatigue, and more concerned about the economic shock that is upcoming due to mass federal layoffs.

[Vayutuvan]

Banisnsky can wear what he wants but equating an Indian leader wearing a traditional Nehru suit with a banian is a bit much.

Not just "a bit much". It is absolutely ridiculous to make such a comparison for two reasons. Modi did not come to the US hat in hand and India was not getting money and weapons to fight China. In fact, the sh*ttistanis were in that situation several times due to their own doing. Also, it seems he was told to come in a suit. Suit is a western dress and Ukraine is in part of the west. India is not.

What a stupid comparison that.

[vera_k]

There's support for refugees at a human level.

But the war is far away and pretty much disengaged. Its also been repeatedly sold as "Ukr fighting Rus on our behalf". Simple enough to note the lack of volunteers from UK, France, Germany, Canada, USA or other Nato nations signing up to fight in the war.

If this meeting happened before the meeting at the White House, it would have set the wrong expectations.
Z pre-WH meeting

[Vayutuvan]

The “soot-boot-tie” is a European official dress. It’s also the official dress of men in China & East Asian countries. So it’s inappropriate that Zelenskyy comes dressed like coming back from playing pretend soldier.

Exactly. He was told to dress up because he was signing a historic deal that would have gone down in history as the deal that paved way to ceasefire and ultimately an agreement to stop a war that was very bad for Ukraine and somewhat bad for Russia. The US public are in no mood to keep on funding an unwinnable war. If the EU wants to Ukraine to keep fighting, they are free to do but not on American taxpayers' money.

It is simply the democrat pasand faction in BRF who are lashing out anything Trump and even putting down Modi ji who is on good terms with Trump but had friction with the Squad and Biden/KD.

[chetak]

Banisnsky can wear what he wants but equating an Indian leader wearing a traditional Nehru suit with a banian is a bit much.

Not just "a bit much". It is absolutely ridiculous to make such a comparison for two reasons. Modi did not come to the US hat in hand and India was not getting money and weapons to fight China. In fact, the sh*ttistanis were in that situation several times due to their own doing. Also, it seems he was told to come in a suit. Suit is a western dress and Ukraine is in part of the west. India is not.

What a stupid comparison that.

Vayutuvan ji,

over the years one has, on very rare occasions, seen the pictures of Modi ji in a western outfit, but by and large, Modi ji is known the world over for his Indian style of dress and and his outfits emphasize his identity as an Indian and he seeks to project His Indian identity in his choice of dress, culture, and also food habits. So no one can or will accuse Modiji of not being formally dressed.

On formal occasions Modi ji speaks in Hindi, as do many world leaders, like putin and xi who also speak in their national languages by choice. Like Modi ji, almost all world leaders can get around in english but the majority still speak in their native languages for reasons of clarity and also to avoid misunderstandings. Invariably, the Indian embassy will provide a translation as required

This "not dressed formally" message must have hit the congis hard. A t-shirt worn so contemptuously in parliament is meant to insult the elected members, the govt in particular, and belittle our culture and civilization.

This clown, when abroad, is always dressed formally in hired suits when he addresses his scruffy audience who are usually gathered in vast assemblies of 20-30 people, all of whom are paid to make up the numbers of the bored onlookers. They are all mostly there to tuck into the cheap and free snacks, pinch the cutlery, and applaud on cue, and most don't care or even know who he is.

If this mafiosi landed up sporting a t-shirt for any formal function in the west, he would lose the support of his BIF financial backers and he would be also be escorted out pronto.

In India, these types pass for white skin which fascinates the natives, but in the west, they are merely mulatto, offspring of mixed parentage, not quite white, and many racist goras (which usually means 99%) would not even consider such folks as one of them

The germans and the britshits went and invented the aryan invasion theory (which we still insist on teaching in our schools today, even though the theory has been conclusively proven wrong) just to project themselves as the superior race

BTW, people from ukr and russia are not considered white and that's how the colonialist europeans and other whites have always rolled.

These colonialist european ingrates forget so easily that if it were not for the russians, hitler would have, in all likelihood, prevailed over all of them, jack booting them into craven submission

[Manish_P]

...
over the years one has, on very rare occasions, seen the pictures of Modi ji in a western outfit, but by and large, Modi ji is known the world over for his Indian style of dress and and his outfits emphasize his identity as an Indian and he seeks to project His Indian identity in his choice of dress, culture, and also food habits. So no one can or will accuse Modiji of not being formally dressed.
...

Chetak Sir, this was sending a message to the rest of the world leaders... fall in line or we will humiliate you in public

Trump has done it to Trudeau, Macron,...

It might not be as public as with Zelensky who forgot his place as a mere propped up pawn in a land grab game being played by two great powers.

Zelensky being the medias poster child needed to be brought down the same way

So Trump did the dog whistle act at the start when Zelensky got out of the car commenting on his dress... and taking the cue the dog (media guy) barked at him accordingly.

The dogs will be let loose on us in the same way if we step out of line too much... make no mistake

We are going to have to accept Strykers and more stuff which we can make ourselves... This is what happens behind the closed doors and agreeing to it leads to 'PM Modi is a tough negotiator but a good friend' flowery dialog in front of the press later on.

[Manish_P]

...

BTW, people from ukr and russia are not considered white and that's how the colonialist europeans and other whites have always rolled.
...

+1

And we brown heathen SDREs are at least 2 rungs even lower on that ladder

[vimal]

There is still a very strong anti-Russia camp in the USA. There are a lot of folks who still feel ok fighting against Russia with American money and materials. I’ve worked with Russians and Ukrainians and the antipathy amongst them is clearly visible. It’s a matter of time before the group again comes to power and restarts this whole drama again.

[KL Dubey]

^^ Do you not think there is a difference between someone wearing a Nehru suit type dress ( which most Indian leaders have been wearing for decades) and someone wearing a Rupa/Sando/VIP banian? Plus its not as if Baniansky does not wear suits - there are pics of him wearing it with leaders. He wanted to make a statement but got called out, rightly or wrongly.

Banisnsky can wear what he wants but equating an Indian leader wearing a traditional Nehru suit with a banian is a bit much.

That's what I just said, right? What are you disagreeing about?

The fact that Zelenski was ridiculed for showing up with his pseudomilitary outfit (despite being asked in advance to wear a suit)...means he was being singularly berated before and during his visit. So, a complete difference from a Modi visit. I am not making any value judgements here.

The US/white house has to my knowledge no specific rules on dress code for foreign leaders nor any specific judgement on what is considered acceptable in other countries. Modi visits in his bandgala or kurta, Rajnath visits in his dhoti/pajama kurta, Yogi might visit in his monk robes, and Jaishankar can visit in his suit. So, what makes you think I am equating them with Zelenski. Tomorrow if Jinping shows up in a commie Mao/Stalin outfit or a traditional chinese outfit nobody in white house will complain he wasnt wearing a western suit.

It seems that BUTTs and MAGAmorons infesting this forum have had a malevolent dumb-down/disinformation effect on other posters like yourself who ordinarily have better (i think, based on my examination of your posting history) Indian sensibilities.

I do find it amusing to see these brown uncle toms riled up with their low level bullshit trying to drag the forum to the same level.

[vimal]

^^ Karen is back

[Cyrano]

The “soot-boot-tie” is a European official dress. It’s also the official dress of men in China & East Asian countries. So it’s inappropriate that Zelenskyy comes dressed like coming back from playing pretend soldier.

Right. But previous visits to WH and US Congress in full house had welcomed Zelly in the same type of phatichar outfit and hailed him as a hero. So Zelly thought the same will be ok with Trump.

Trump trolled him as soon as he stepped on the WH porch, a classic pressure ploy to belittle/destabilise the party you are dealing with. In fact, that was the first warning to Zelly that he doesnt carry much respect from Trump & Co, and that he is in a really delicate position. He should have nodded and kept his mouth shut and could have avoided the disaster. He was trolled a second time by someone who asked a hacking question during the oval office presser. That again was a second warning that he is in a very inferior position. But he chose to ignore those warnings and got into a slinging match with "JD" in front of the cameras, he got another warning from JD then to "not litigate in front of the media" but he didn't listen, his arrogance and powder addiction made him argue and he got burned very badly.

BTW, a lot of global leaders these days are known to be powder sniffers, and Trump has a serious revulsion for such people and he will use it as he needs to at the right time.

[A_Gupta]

Daniel Pipes on American politics:
https://www.danielpipes.org/22511/angry ... -explained

[Manish_P]

...
Right. But previous visits to WH and US Congress in full house had welcomed Zelly in the same type of phatichar outfit and hailed him as a hero. So Zelly thought the same will be ok with Trump.
...

It's the age old US way - "we say when you are the good guy and we say when you are the bad guy".

The "Allah-0"ed islamist jihadis were the brave freedom fighter mujahids allowed in the 'hallowed' oval office... until they were not.
Same with "our friend" Saddam until he strayed off-script and found himself promptly damned.

[Mort Walker]

Zelenskyy has been admonished by Biden in summer of 2022 over the phone when he asked for more that $1B of assistance had been authorized. Biden told him to be more grateful & raised his voice in a heated call.

Zelenskyy could get away with his dress if like Musk, donated $280M+ to the Trump campaign and millions to the Republican Party. After all, if you have money to offer, even cross dressers are allowed by any political party.

[Mort Walker]

Daniel Pipes on American politics:
https://www.danielpipes.org/22511/angry ... -explained

The party of Reagan & Bushes is dead. Along with those that supported them in the opposition.

Even the MAGA movement will perish within 2-3 years if incomes relative to prices doesn’t increase. The basics such as housing, transportation, medical care & food have become cost prohibitive. However, if that happens doesn’t mean a return to a political environment seen as in the past.

[Tanaji]

@Dubeyji, fair enough, I have misinterpreted your post, so was wrong there.

Btw I am absolutely loving the state of affairs and its great that Trump is the president. For India to get ahead, it needs to be left alone, and US is going to be far too preoccupied internally for the next 4 years hopefully to pay attention to India. I wish he grants himself another term … It will be bad for US of course, but then we are on BR forum..:p

[Vayutuvan]

Even the MAGA movement will perish within 2-3 years if incomes relative to prices doesn’t increase. The basics such as housing, transportation, medical care & food have become cost prohibitive. However, if that happens doesn’t mean a return to a political environment seen as in the past.

MAGA will not last as long as that. Trump is going to make mistakes. Problem with Trump/Musk is that they are setting themselves up for a fall when they say shout from the rooftops that they will save 2 trillion USD. It ks a log way from USD 54 billion saved (not really - the savings are not even in 10s of millions). That would be obvious within the year. GOP will be taken to the cleaners in the midterms in 2026. "A shellacking" as Obama said about DNC loss in the midterms. The left is going to come back with a bang, impeach Trump yet another time or may be even two, and make us all bend to the globalists.

The only way out for India is to side with China unless India can get a non-aligned global south unity to act as a pole in the bipolar world - EU+US, and Russia+China unless India joins one of the two camps lock stock and barrel. That would be the end of Indian civilization as we know it.

[Vayutuvan]

… It will be bad for US of course, but then we are on BR forum..:p

If he succeeds in cutting lot of fat out of the US government and economy improves, i.e. prices come down and there is an indication that manufacturing jobs may come back and GOP actually overcomes the anti-incumbency during the midterms, then Americans might feel that it is his granting himself a third term is actually good for the US. But there is no need for that as JD Vance is sure to continue Trump's policies.

Vivek Ramaswamy is finished after his outburst against the midwesterners.

[vijayk]

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1896369534203818291

MIND-BLOWING: Just 7,000 politically connected NGOs are hoarding 90% of all taxpayer money meant for nonprofits.

Roughly $300 billion in government money flows to nonprofits every year—with zero transparency on where that money actually goes.

Elon Musk recently told Joe Rogan that NGOs (Non-Governmental Organizations) are among the biggest scams ever.

That’s because taxpayer-funded NGOs act as a loophole to funnel billions into shadowy, unaccountable organizations—doing things that would be illegal if carried out directly by the government itself.

@DataRepublican
(who’s featured in this clip) previously reported that the “Uniparty” is actually a network of NGOs partially funded by your tax dollars.

And the one thing they all have in common is that they claim to promote “democracy.”

According to her investigation, seven NGOs—heavily backed by USAID and the U.S. State Department—serve as the Uniparty’s enforcement arm, pushing propaganda under the guise of “protecting democracy.”

These groups, originally formed during the Cold War, have shifted their mission from spreading democracy abroad to protecting their own power—redefining “democracy” to mean preserving themselves.

Or, as Musk puts it, a threat to “democracy” really means a threat to the bureaucracy.

[drnayar]

, a threat to “democracy” really means a threat to the bureaucracy.

[bala]

Dr. Wei, TSMC will invest an additional $100+ B semiconductor venture in US. They already invested $65 B in Phoenix, Arizona. Customers include NVidia, Apple, AMD, Qualcomm, etc.

youtube.com/watch?v=jwNz42-4KLQ

// For India: time to take stock of such massive investments in semiconductors. Some start is being made but over the long run India has to understand that this domain will become a source of contention. India has a core of chip designers. Now the actual fabrication is filled with so many vendor equipment which is the key to manufacturing. India has to get into this aspect. One company ASML holds the keys to low nanometer lithography.