Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[A_Gupta]

BLA says it executed 214 Pakistani military hostages.
E.G.,
https://x.com/mattmurock123/status/1900580800590176477

[Deans]

The attack would have been a waste if they hadn't executed the army men on the train.

Executing them after the deadline expired makes the army look bad (compared to just shooting them and then fleeing, which is what I thought
they would do), I tells the army that higher ups don't give a $**t about soldiers.
Pak army in its best traditions, counted all civilians released by the BLA as rescued and all non army men dead on the train as militants.

[RCase]

The attack would have been a waste if they hadn't executed the army men on the train.

Executing them after the deadline expired makes the army look bad (compared to just shooting them and then fleeing, which is what I thought
they would do), I tells the army that higher ups don't give a $**t about soldiers.
Pak army in its best traditions, counted all civilians released by the BLA as rescued and all non army men dead on the train as militants.

But, but ... the 'brave' Baki fauj had spectacularly eliminated all the terrorists freedom fighters in their operation and rescued all the army persons. These 214 persons army personnel weren't executed, but chose shahadat by themselves to meet their hoors in jannat.

[KL Dubey]

Good discussion and updates on Balochistan from Sushant Sareen (B'stan and P'stan expert at ORF): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXRMh2Ie4dw

[Amber G.]

The Beat Stops in Terroristan : Punjab Govt Bans Bollywood Dance Parties!

Punjab Government in Pakistan has banned students in all colleges & education institutes across the province from dancing on Indian Bollywood songs. Circular issued to implement the order or face strict disciplinary action. Pakistani youth mostly dance on Hindi songs.

[Amber G.]

Pakistan Army affiliated gunmen have killed Lashkar e Islam founder Mufti Munir Shakir, a prominent Islamic scholar critic of the Pak military, through a bomb blast outside a Peshawar mosque. Munir was a supporter of Pashtun Tahafuz Movement which upset Rawalpindi.

[Mort Walker]

Looks like UNKNOWN GUNMEN have killed Hafiz Saeed, and his nephew Faisal Nadeem. This happened about 5 hours ago in Jhelum, Pak Punjab.

[sanjayc]

Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist Abu Qatal, mastermind of Rajouri attack, shot dead in Pakistan: Report
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 07318.html

[A_Gupta]

If the BLA has really executed 214 Pakistani military/security folks after the Paki military said it has rescued them, and the BLA manages to convince the Pakistani public of this, then that will mark the beginning of the end of military domination of Pakistan.

[Hriday]

Can anyone point to some good reading material or the pages in this forum or elsewhere on Indian support for Balochistan?
In recent years, there have been a lot of reports of unknown men sent by India killing terrorists inside Pakistan.

Like the Paki terrorists used boats to reach India, can we use the same to send support to Balochistan? India had installed an extensive network of coastal radars and other surveillance systems throughout the Indian coast. I am assuming that cash-starved Pakistan may not have such a costly system.

[A_Gupta]

India provides moral support onlee.

[Baikul]

Balochistan again as BLA launches another massive attack on a Pakfauj convoy.

A few days ago a train, this time buses. And claims of 90 killed.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/ ... 2025-03-16

Baloch insurgents claim 90 Pakistani soldiers were killed in an attack on a Pakistani military convoy on Sunday by the Baloch Liberation Army.

[Deans]

Can anyone point to some good reading material or the pages in this forum or elsewhere on Indian support for Balochistan?
In recent years, there have been a lot of reports of unknown men sent by India killing terrorists inside Pakistan.

Like the Paki terrorists used boats to reach India, can we use the same to send support to Balochistan? India had installed an extensive network of coastal radars and other surveillance systems throughout the Indian coast. I am assuming that cash-starved Pakistan may not have such a costly system.

There is no reading material for a reason. That's why the unknown men remain unknown.

I did an old blogpost on the previous round of `unknown men'.
https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2023/11/is ... ossad.html

[Deans]

Balochistan again as BLA launches another massive attack on a Pakfauj convoy.

A few days ago a train, this time buses. And claims of 90 killed.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/ ... 2025-03-16

Baloch insurgents claim 90 Pakistani soldiers were killed in an attack on a Pakistani military convoy on Sunday by the Baloch Liberation Army.

The planners of Pulwama could not follow a SOP to transport their own men, in a militant affected area.
I wish the number was 90, though that looks inflated (probably dead + injured).

[A_Gupta]

FWIW:

https://thefridaytimes.com/15-Mar-2025/ ... -crackdown

India’s Covert Operations and Strategic Interests

Following the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War, India was determined to further weaken Pakistan by supporting separatist movements on its western frontier. The Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), India’s premier intelligence agency, played a central role in this effort. In his book My Enemy’s Enemy: India in Afghanistan from the Soviet Invasion to the US Withdrawal, Avinash Paliwal documents RAW’s covert operations in Balochistan. According to Paliwal:

“RAW actively supported Baloch rebels by providing arms, training, and logistical support. Indian operatives maintained liaison offices along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border to facilitate the transfer of weapons and financial assistance.”

Operational Details and Strategic Objectives

Indian support to the insurgency encompassed several initiatives:

Armaments: RAW supplied small arms and explosives to Baloch guerrilla fighters, enabling them to engage in prolonged guerrilla warfare.
Training: Baloch militants received training in undisclosed locations, which enhanced their operational effectiveness against Pakistani security forces.
Intelligence Coordination: By operating liaison offices along the porous border with Afghanistan, RAW ensured that insurgent groups had access to safe havens and could receive timely intelligence, thereby sustaining their campaign.
This covert support was part of India’s broader strategy to destabilise Pakistan’s western regions, thereby forcing Pakistan to divert military resources away from its eastern front. Sashanka S. Banerjee’s India, Mujibur Rahman, Bangladesh Liberation & Pakistan (A Political Treatise) reinforces this view by documenting how India’s historical use of proxy forces during the 1971 conflict set the precedent for subsequent interventions. Anatol Lieven, in Pakistan: A Hard Country, also notes that India viewed the insurgency as a valuable opportunity to erode Pakistani unity and weaken its government from within.

[bala]

Abu Qatal Meets 72 Houries in Pakistan and Hafiz Saeed condition is unkown. Unknown gunmen in action once again.

youtube.com/watch?v=ypCBfAF1VO0

And the attacks by BLA continue.
youtube.com/watch?v=MJfEkszuv0M

[sanjayc]

BLA strikes again, blows up entire convoy of Pakistan Army

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/b ... 2025-03-16

90 uniformed Jihadis have been killed, according to BLA

[Hriday]

Can anyone point to some good reading material or the pages in this forum or elsewhere on Indian support for Balochistan?
In recent years, there have been a lot of reports of unknown men sent by India killing terrorists inside Pakistan.

There is no reading material for a reason. That's why the unknown men remain unknown.

I did an old blogpost on the previous round of `unknown men'.
https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2023/11/is ... ossad.html

Thanks Deans ji, I had read that blogpost earlier. What is interesting in your post is that the action by unknown men started after the Khalistani activities in the name of farmers protest in Delhi and the removal of the Indian flag from the Red Fort. Does it mean Modi is under the illusion that treating Pakistan with softness will be reciprocated? Vajpayee did the same with Agra summit even after Kargil backstabbing. Maybe that explains why the Modi government is not taking a hardline approach to Pakistan after the Balakot strike; add to it the lack of sufficient funds for military R&D and procurement.
Continuous loss of life of civilians and the army is still happening in the border areas. I don't think that killing a few dozen militants is a sufficient retribution. But let's leave it.

Another interesting thing you mentioned is the prominent role of Afghanistan as a safe haven for the contract killers of terrorists and their animosity toward Pakistan. Generally, one thinks that when the infidels (Non-Muslims) are involved, all sects of Islam will unite to defeat them. But apparently not so in these cases. Anti-Pakistan terrorist group TTP is an example. It explains why India was particularly interested in establishing contact with the Taliban after the hurried exit of the USA.

Just one question, Doval threatened Pakistan that if another Mumbai-type attack happens, then Pakistan will lose Balochistan. Does it mean the army will cross across Pakistan to directly help Baluchistan or support via some stealth boat based supply through Pakistan sea coast?

[kancha]

Another interesting thing you mentioned is the prominent role of Afghanistan as a safe haven for the contract killers of terrorists and their animosity toward Pakistan. Generally, one thinks that when the infidels (Non-Muslims) are involved, all sects of Islam will unite to defeat them. But apparently not so in these cases.

The hatred that Afghans have for Pakistan is to be seen to be believed. I saw it first-hand in a European country where I was out for some work for a couple of months about a decade ago. An Afghan lady on the team would turn red with anger whenever Pakistan was mentioned. Then there was a day when a Paki - a retired fauji no less - joined us for a conference!

[SBajwa]

by Hriday
Just one question, Doval threatened Pakistan that if another Mumbai-type attack happens, then Pakistan will lose Balochistan. Does it mean the army will cross across Pakistan to directly help Baluchistan or support via some stealth boat based supply through Pakistan sea coast?

That was long time ago before Mr. Doval was appointed as NSA. Pakistan just pulled this old quote out to show that these attacks in Baluchistan are attacks orchestrated by our NSA. NSA Mr. Doval would not go on X or Youtube to threaten and then launch an attack few days later.

[Deans]

Another interesting thing you mentioned is the prominent role of Afghanistan as a safe haven for the contract killers of terrorists and their animosity toward Pakistan. Generally, one thinks that when the infidels (Non-Muslims) are involved, all sects of Islam will unite to defeat them. But apparently not so in these cases. Anti-Pakistan terrorist group TTP is an example. It explains why India was particularly interested in establishing contact with the Taliban after the hurried exit of the USA.

Just one question, Doval threatened Pakistan that if another Mumbai-type attack happens, then Pakistan will lose Balochistan. Does it mean the army will cross across Pakistan to directly help Baluchistan or support via some stealth boat based supply through Pakistan sea coast?
[/quote]

A lot of the Afghan civil war for the last 25 years is for control of smuggling routes.
I used to business with Afghanistan and Iran from 1999-2002, when this business was being established.

For e.g. Afghanistan has zero duty on items where Pak has 100% import duty. Containers are shipped through Karachi or Iran consigned to
Afghanistan, but the containers get de-stuffed inside Afghanistan and the contents smuggled back into Pak.
In my time Afghanistan, with hardly any electricity, used to import more electronic goods than Pak, as per official data.
There is similarly a lot of petrol smuggling between Iran and Pak.
Drugs move from Afghanistan, to Pak and Iran.
All the banking is done in Dubai.

Money is made by the Pak army on the Pak side and whichever warlord controls the Afghan side.
Arms and people get smuggled the same way.
The Indian presence in Chabahar port of Iran is a convenient way to get material into Afghanistan.

[Manish_P]

"The pakis have mastered the art of manipulating the Americans but they have met their match in Trump"

Strat Talks - 'The pakistan army has lost respect among the people'

[chetak]

pakistan cricket board (pcb) suffered a massive loss of over ₹869 crore after hosting the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

This loss stems from multiple factors, including high investments in stadium renovations and security, poor ticket sales, and Pakistan's early exit from the tournament.

However, due to India's refusal to play in Pakistan, Indian matches were held in Dubai, leading to reduced attendance and lower revenue from Indian fans, who are known to contribute significantly to ICC event earnings.

This financial setback raises concerns about the future of international cricket events in Pakistan, despite the PCB's efforts to revive the sport in the country.

[Anujan]

Pakistan has lost over ₹869 crore due to war on Cricket

[williams]

My honest opinion. Somebody pocketed much of that money. What upgrade did they do to these stadiums to cost them 30 million USD? Gaddafi stadium got upgraded to seat 35k seats is all I heard. Then they probably spent few million on cheap Chinese fireworks for the opening day? With India not playing , 1000 - 1500 PKR ticket prices and what ever ad money, TV rights they could sell in a Terrorist infested country, how do they ever think they can even recover it. BCCI and GoI made the best decision. We should let them rot with their own charlatan leadership and they will squander whatever little they have.

[Manish_P]

This time no promise by the royal prince to visit bakistan ??

Yawn - Pakistan Saudi Arabia vow to take partnership to new heights

[Tanaji]

This time no promise by the royal prince to visit bakistan ??

Yawn - Pakistan Saudi Arabia vow to take partnership to new heights

Also no announcement of “investment of 1000 billion dollars” as is the usual practice. Needless to say the investment never happens or was a drug addled Puki fantasy in the first place…

[Tanaji]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 ... asia-video

Pakistan and crypto - name a more iconic duo made for each other….

[chetak]

This time no promise by the royal prince to visit bakistan ??

Yawn - Pakistan Saudi Arabia vow to take partnership to new heights

Also no announcement of “investment of 1000 billion dollars” as is the usual practice. Needless to say the investment never happens or was a drug addled Puki fantasy in the first place…

Tanaji saar,



all raja, no praja or to correctly reflect the current realities in pukestan, only zeros, no heroes

[Manish_P]

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Also no announcement of “investment of 1000 billion dollars” as is the usual practice. Needless to say the investment never happens or was a drug addled Puki fantasy in the first place…

What Pakis consider success are signing of MoUs.

Enchandee / Face savers

Looks like a few got signed on this trip

[Najunamar]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 ... asia-video

Pakistan and crypto - name a more iconic duo made for each other….

Perhaps Crypto and Klepto would fit as a descriptor

[A_Gupta]

While Balochi independence seems like a distant dream, suppose it does win its independence.
How will it maintain it? Neither Iran nor the remnant Pakistan will be friendly.

Scenarios that occurred to me.

The less likely one is that Balochistan enters an arrangement with China, where China guarantees Baluchi independence and a fair price for their resources, and Balochistan cooperates with China, protects its assets, etc., etc.

The little more likely is based on the Wiki statements that 20% of the Omani people are of Baluch descent and 40% of their army - in which case it makes sense for Balochistan to enter some kind of union with Oman.

An arrangement with India is also feasible, I think.

[Vayutuvan]

While Balochi independence seems like a distant dream, suppose it does win its independence.

Why are you being presumptuous?

[A_Gupta]

CK Hutchinson operate(d)(s) the international terminal in Karachi port, and has sold its stake (will Xi be able to block it?) to BlackRock. In February CK Hutchison had announced a USD $1 billion investment to upgrade the terminal. Will BlackRock continue with that?

[Manish_P]

CK Hutchinson operate(d)(s) the international terminal in Karachi port, and has sold its stake (will Xi be able to block it?) to BlackRock. In February CK Hutchison had announced a USD $1 billion investment to upgrade the terminal. Will BlackRock continue with that?

If true, this also means that India can't hit it, unless permitted by the US.

Pak is showing Pakraine what it must do to protect itself

[A_Gupta]

Pak-China rift:
https://youtu.be/3LwwF4dkFH8?si=Grc7a1QTVC4AuFIK

[Rana]

https://x.com/OSPSF/status/1903806690916552879
Powerful speech by President Zardari on Pakistan Day
Do not miss reading comments.

[chetak]

CK Hutchinson operate(d)(s) the international terminal in Karachi port, and has sold its stake (will Xi be able to block it?) to BlackRock. In February CK Hutchison had announced a USD $1 billion investment to upgrade the terminal. Will BlackRock continue with that?

If true, this also means that India can't hit it, unless permitted by the US.

Pak is showing Pakraine what it must do to protect itself

How do you figure, Manish ji .......

when amriki nationals were directly involved in the Taj attack and they were not extradited to India even after proof emerged confirming their active involvement

why should India be bound by any artificial constraints or restraints that compromise it's supreme national interests.

Was bidenwa's USAID, USCIRF, et al doing charitable work in India, wasn't the beedi coup meant to subdue and subvert India, wasn't donald lu waltzing in and out of India like he owned the place, especially creating problems in TN where delimitation and language issues are being stoked.

They were all "enemy action" by any definition of the phrase ......

The latest trial balloon is the "state income tax" demand that the congis are pushing (via a washed up ex RBI governor rangarajan who has been dusted off and spruced up), hoping to generate enough traction to move the overton window, and the dimwit seems to have got his latest marching orders from his gora masters to push this "state income tax" nonsense.

Regime change in the conventional sense may be beyond the reach of the many of the usual suspects, but regime restraint may be possible to engineer to a limited extent by introducing constraints in the parliament to weaken the ruling party by ensuring "policy paralysis" and the inability to take and/or enforce decisions, like they tried to do in 2024 but the attempt fell well short of the mark, the existence of this regime restraint game plan as was confirmed by the very public exultations of a dimwit dynaaast, who let the cat out of the bag, and this fraud is now reeling under the political weight of some artfully concocted desi tadka or chhaunk made in the gujarati style that has sent him running back to his vidwa vilap of "जाती जनगणना "

However, the un-factored and un-quantifiable consequences of such an action, in a diverse country like India, will be the massive and spiralling backlash that will accompany the aftermath of such a dangerous exercise and the ginormous blowback against the people involved, including their local collaborators. This actually did happen, as was evident from the many subsequent state elections that the collaborators lost

There are some globally feared and also well known and well reputed nationalistic grass roots organizations that are trusted by a huge majority of the desi population, an organization that is very much capable of organizing and mobilizing such a reaction and thereby changing the narrative.

Hypothetically speaking, in case someone actually tries to instigate a beedi like coup in India, the Govt will ensure that the internet and SM will shut down, the armed forces will get called out to maintain law and order, state govts going against the grain will get dismissed out of hand and two fraudulent pillars of "democracy" will not merely bend but they will crawl abjectly like they actually did during IG's emergency.

BTW, which "external force" will dare enter a nuclear armed India to see that "democracy" prevails and what would be the justification for such a move. Surely russia and perhaps france will object and (russia) may even send military help. The UN will basically keep quiet. halfbreeds will flee because of danger from lamp posts

All of the above notwithstanding, whose G has that much of D .... to forcibly attempt a full blown regime change in India.

India was taken over in a bloodless coup in 1947, a virtually unnoticed side lining of nationalistic leaders took place, and these events passed off basically disregarded, because of political naivety, low levels of adult education, the trusting nature of the Hindu, the awe in which the leadership was held, and most of all, there was an ocean of difference between what was said and what was actually done, including the inclusion of six/seven odd "jihadi education ministers" over a period of time, jihadis who set about damaging the very soul of India by allowing the jihadi and commie termites to eat into the cultural heart of India and reset the narrative by subverting the reality of the ancient Sanatani civilization and the consequences of such jihadi vandalism, the ravaging of Sanatani History, the defacing of Sanatani lived history are becoming apparent only now. This obviously needed the cunning of the britshits and the inherent duplicity of abrahamics, both operating in their crusade mode

The price that we are paying in the NE is one of the onerous conditions that had to be fulfilled by those who supped with the vengeful britshits and also benefitted them, while

One also has a sneaking suspicion that the uniformed cohorts will not be watching passively and disinterestedly from the side-lines as they are dutifully expected to do.

Recall the reaction of these entities when the mafia mamamia and their raincoated butler tried to gift away siachen to the jihadis under pressure from the amrikis.

That was not a lesson that was lost on any politico in India: औकात में रहिये लाडले

Ex-Army General JJ Singh (UPA appointee) reveals that then UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi tried to give Siachen glacier to Pakistan. Pressurized by the US-Pak lobby, she got then "Stronger" PM Manmohan Singh to almost sign the deal.

It was the Indian army that stalled the deal.

WATCH VIDEO


The video is 45 seconds long

[Manish_P]

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when amriki nationals were directly involved in the Taj attack and they were not extradited to India even after proof emerged confirming their active involvement

With respect Chetak sir, surely there is a difference between a terrorist attack by 'non-state' actors and a full blown military attack by uninformed state military forces.

Not saying we can't do it.. but the costs would be very high. The yanks don't take kindly to being attacked militarily and bear generational grudges.

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BTW, which "external force" will dare enter a nuclear armed India to see that "democracy" prevails and what would be the justification for such a move.

Very unlikely I agree, but then we have two nuclear armed forces going at it these past few years...

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Surely russia and perhaps france will object and (russia) may even send military help....

They might object but that's about it....

Russia might be able to send spares. For a time. But it is not the force it was in the previous century. And the Russians need all their weapons and spares to protect their homeland.

As for France, let's not forget the French and British/US remember their white brotherhood when they deem it necessary. One only needs to ask Argentina.

[Amber G.]

One of the most significant pieces of US legislation on Pakistan in quite some time was introduced today. It calls for steps that could lead to Magnitsky sanctions on Pakistan’s army chief. May be a long shot to pass, but it’ll spook Pakistan’s leadership....

Link: New bill seeks to sanction Pakistan’s army chief, free former PM Khan