Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 30 June 2022

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Mar 2025 03:16

fanne wrote: ↑03 Mar 2025 07:07
srai wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025 14:17

Can you please post the links to each thread?

X doesn’t show those unless one is signed in
Or post a threadwraper

Someone on X posted the thread wrapper

https://x.com/threadreaderapp/status/18 ... 9532733644

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Mar 2025 03:19

Rakesh wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025 21:08 https://x.com/ShiroBarks/status/1897485323065524234 ---> BM-04 SRBM.

Even though its called short range missile it has reentry section and range is up to 1500 km.
Most likely will replace the Agni-I in the short range role.

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 16 Mar 2025 10:13

See the low resolution missile picture in the below link.

https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/190095 ... 5YOoQ&s=19

The Dhvani blended wing body HGV is HUGE.

It’s 8+ m long and has a width of 2.5 m.

The 1st stage booster probably has a length of 8 m.

Both 1st and 2nd stage boosters have dia of 2.4 m.

This will have an intercontinental range.

It’s meant for ‘special’ laddu delivery.

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 16 Mar 2025 10:28

See images I posted in the below linked thread. Systems developed by DRDO collaboration and private companies. Vidhwams surface to surface missile with 300 km range, Ajita short and medium range missiles, picture of a MPATGM by Solar group, cannisters for 70 and 60 ton ballistic missiles etc.

Nobody seems interested..is it because; data is now cheap and people want continuous entertainment, quality sources available in social media, or govt not giving sufficient support to indigenous products?

viewtopic.php?p=2641258#p2641258

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 16 Mar 2025 13:53

Hriday wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025 10:28 See images I posted in the below linked thread. Systems developed by DRDO collaboration and private companies. Vidhwams surface to surface missile with 300 km range, Ajita short and medium range missiles, picture of a MPATGM by Solar group, cannisters for 70 and 60 ton ballistic missiles etc.

Nobody seems interested..is it because; data is now cheap and people want continuous entertainment, quality sources available in social media, or govt not giving sufficient support to indigenous products?

viewtopic.php?p=2641258#p2641258

this is where the American Military industrial complex found forever wars where both parties buy their products useful..

Nikhil_Naya · Post by **Nikhil_Naya** » 17 Mar 2025 13:55

Expect an accelerated test schedule this summer for all the mijjiles, raakits and golas. Some heavy duty stuff will happen In the next few weeks including a sub surface test as well expected. Just a paanwallah update.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 18 Mar 2025 19:36

VIDEO: https://x.com/shreedharsingh9/status/18 ... 3808196029 ---> Agni-P is also capable of targeting moving aircraft carriers and ships. Interesting.

srai · Post by **srai** » 19 Mar 2025 02:49

https://x.com/shreedharsingh9/status/18 ... 9276610888

TaRA guidance kit

asbchakri · Post by **asbchakri** » 26 Mar 2025 04:52

India is set to significantly enhance its military capabilities with the procurement of 250 BrahMos missiles featuring an extended range of 800 km.

https://www.republicworld.com/defence/i ... -precision

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 26 Mar 2025 15:30

Rakesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 19:36 VIDEO: https://x.com/shreedharsingh9/status/18 ... 3808196029 ---> Agni-P is also capable of targeting moving aircraft carriers and ships. Interesting.

move some missile battalions to the Andamans and Lakshadweep bases.. good way to sanitize the IOR off pesky chini vessels., for added protection best to add the SMART torpedo units !..

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 27 Mar 2025 05:03

DRDO & Indian Navy successfully flight-test indigenously-developed Vertically-Launched Short-Range Surface-to-Air Missile

Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) and the Indian Navy conducted the successful flight-test of indigenously-developed Vertically-Launched Short-Range Surface-to-Air Missile (VLSRSAM) from the Integrated Test Range (ITR), Chandipur off the coast of Odisha at about 1200 hrs on March 26, 2025. The flight-test was carried out from a land-based vertical launcher against a high-speed aerial target at very close range and low altitude. It has established the Near-Boundary-Low Altitude capability of the missile system.

During the test, the target was completely destroyed by the missile executing the high turn rate required for engaging targets at very close range, and establishing the missile’s agility, reliability & pin-point accuracy. The test was conducted with all weapon system elements deployed in combat configuration. These elements, including missile with indigenous Radio Frequency seeker, Multi-Function Radar and Weapon Control System, have performed as per expectations. The performance of the system was validated by the flight data captured by various Range Instruments developed by ITR Chandipur.

srai · Post by **srai** » 27 Mar 2025 07:15

^^^
If all the P-15A/B and P-17A/B are fitted with 2 sets of 2x8 VLS cell modules, that would bring SAM element to respectable 64 missiles (32 x LRSAM and 32 x VLSRSAM).

Maybe 16x or 32x can be fitted to all smaller vessels like P-28/A and NGMVs.

mody · Post by **mody** » 27 Mar 2025 17:36

https://www.msn.com/en-in/autos/news/in ... c47d&ei=20

The above report from the New Indian Express gives the maximum range of the VLSRSAM as being 80Kms!!!! It is being mentioned as both an area defense missile and a point defense missile.

The earlier literature all mentioned the range as about 30Kms. The missile is mostly supposed to be a SAM variant of the Astra BVR missile. A range of 80 Kms seems unlikely for a surface launched version.

However, along with LRSAM, the VLSRSAM will become a standard feature on most large surface ships of IN and for smaller corvette sized ships, will probably be the primary air defense missile going forward.

mody · Post by **mody** » 28 Mar 2025 13:38

https://theprint.in/defence/mod-signs-r ... s/2568601/

Order for Nag Missiles and Namica platform placed with AVNL. Finally the order gets placed. Total order value is about 1,800 Crores. Not clarity on the number of systems and number of missiles ordered though.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 28 Mar 2025 14:08

srai wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025 07:15 ^^^
If all the P-15A/B and P-17A/B are fitted with 2 sets of 2x8 VLS cell modules, that would bring SAM element to respectable 64 missiles (32 x LRSAM and 32 x VLSRSAM).

Maybe 16x or 32x can be fitted to all smaller vessels like P-28/A and NGMVs.

does the LRSAM and VLSRSAM share a common launch system ?

ernest · Post by **ernest** » 28 Mar 2025 21:21

mody wrote: ↑27 Mar 2025 17:36 https://www.msn.com/en-in/autos/news/in ... c47d&ei=20

The above report from the New Indian Express gives the maximum range of the VLSRSAM as being 80Kms!!!! It is being mentioned as both an area defense missile and a point defense missile.

The public domain ranges for VL-SRSAM and Akash-NG are all over the place. We expect Akash-NG to be 80km, and we see reports that it is 30km only. And the opposite in case of VL-SRSAM.
BTW, with the same propulsion supplied by India for Barak-8, we expect Akash-NG to have the same range as well.

sohamn · Post by **sohamn** » 28 Mar 2025 23:14

Akash NG is a heavy weight missile with a significantly heavier warhead, VLSRSAM is a smaller class of missile. Neither VLSRSAM nor Akash can reach anywhere close to 80 miles horizontal range, since they have to travel on the hypotenuse which is much longer than the base / horizontal range. This is not the case for a AAM where it mainly travels on the horizontal plane.

the VLSRSAM is a point defence interceptor similar to Barak 1 and will have a max real world range < 10 nm

Akash is a medium range sam with real world ranges < 30 nm

To have a long range sam, one needs to put a big booster which should first take a missile to stratosphere (air density is minimal) - there the missile needs to travel for most of its range, and then dive down on the target.

Our defence & science illiterate journalists see that Astra has ranges > 45nm and since VLSRSAM is based on Astra it should also have ranges > 45nm. They leave out slant ranges, air density, relative velocity (airplane's speed) etc.

mody · Post by **mody** » 29 Mar 2025 18:14

The VLSRSAM is based on Astra BVR missile, not the Akash-NG.
Generally for all air to air missiles when used in ground to air role, have a range of about 25-30% on the max air to air range.
Similarly the VLSRSAM was always advertised as having a maximum range of upto 30Kms. The Astra has a maximum range of about 110Kms. For air to air missiles the range figures depend on the speed of the launching platform at the time of firing and also the altitude, apart from a host of other factors.

The Akash-NG is similar to the Barak-8, with a similar dual pulse rocket motor. The VLSRSAM and Astra have a single pulse rocket motor.
Also, as per some reports, the size and weight of Akash-NG is more than that of Barak-8. Also, please note that in Indian service the propulsion part of barak-8/MRSAM/LRSAM is indigenous.
The Barak-8 is advertised as having a maximum range of 70-90Kms. As opposed to this, the Akash-NG is now stated to a range of 30Kms. Some earlier reports had given at the range as 80Kms.
Hence the confusion.

For the VLSRSAM, only the Indian Express article given above has mentioned a range of upto 80Kms and an area defense role. I guess we can put it down to a case if DDM. The VLSRSAM as the name suggests is a Short Range point defense SAM. Will replace the Barak-1 in IN service, will complement the LRSAM for larger platforms and will also become the DeFacto SAM for smaller corvette sized ships.

The range figures for Akash-NG still remain a mystery and I think it is deliberately under reported perhaps as part of some secret clause with the Yehudis. In Indian service the missile should probably have a maximum range of about 80Kms.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Apr 2025 23:14

Article on TARA family of bombs.
Looks like needs laser illumination for point targets 3M CEP
Area targets 30M CEP

Note how GPS/INS starts drift after 5 min flight.

https://defence.in/threads/drdo-commenc ... ach.13519/

ashishvikas · Post by **ashishvikas** » 04 Apr 2025 18:50

#JustIn India conducts 4 successful flight tests of army version of #MRSAM from Kalam Island off Odisha coast in 2 days. The missiles achieve direct hit against high-speed aerial targets at long, short ranges and high & low altitudes proving the system's operational capability.

https://x.com/thehemantrout/status/1908 ... 52275?s=46

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 05 Apr 2025 05:33

https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1908171741563638178

#AreaWarning #India issues multiple notifications for likely missile tests in the Bay of Bengal region, tests include a likely long range missile as well !

Kanoji · Post by **Kanoji** » 14 Apr 2025 19:58

India joins the Star Wars League: Uses Laser weapon developed by DRDO to shoot down aircraft, missiles and drones

Not exactly missile related - an article about a short range directed energy weapon demonstrated by DRDO.

Kurnool, Andhra Pradesh: For the first time, India has showcased its capability to shoot down fixed-wing aircraft, missiles and swarm drones using a 30-kilowatt laser-based weapon system.

Interview with DRDO Chairman Dr Samir V. Kamat

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 14 Apr 2025 21:58

None of the NOTAMs happened?

Nikhil_Naya · Post by **Nikhil_Naya** » 16 Apr 2025 14:49

SSridhar wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 21:58 None of the NOTAMs happened?

There will be another set issued soon. One test did happen - details will probably be shared later. That's what I got to know.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Apr 2025 19:04

Thanks, Nikhil.

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 17 Apr 2025 22:24

Khagantak-243 glide bomb developed by JSR Dynamics pvt Ltd tested with SU-30. See the photo and video of it's integration with SU-30 in the link below. They claim a CEP of less than 10 meter without EO/IR seeker and <5 meter with seeker. It is in the weight class of 300 kg.
As per Arihant Ray in X, it's weight is 243 kg with 108 kg warhead .

https://jsrdynamics.in/long-range-glide-bomb-lrgb/

The Long-Range Glide Bomb (LRGB) is designed to extend the range of the Mk 80 series warheads, offering enhanced operational flexibility. It is an All-Up Round (AUR) capable of accommodating warheads ranging from Mk 81 to Mk 84. When released from an altitude of 12 km at 0.85 Mach, the LRGB is expected to achieve a range of 120+ km.

https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/de ... -munitions

India's Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) has secured an order from the Indian Air Force (IAF) to supply an unspecified number of Khagantak-243 munitions, a 300 kg-class airborne stand-off precision-guided glide bomb, the company told Janes on 11 February.

They had an impressive list of products. The MGLD section described below had videos and pictures of engine and booster firing tests. I once asked in the forum that why there is no news of an Indian offensive decoy weapons but got no reply. USA had MALD (air launched decoys) to saturate the S-400 class SAM systems.

https://jsrdynamics.in/miniature-ground ... ecoy-mgld/

Miniature Ground Launched Decoy (MGLD) is a low cost, expendable, autonomous, high performance aerial vehicle for operational utilisation as a decoy. The MGLD is powered by a turbojet engine apart from booster rocket for ground launch. It is capable of executing flight profile that mimic fighter aircraft transit speeds and radar network, freeing up fighter aircraft used as decoys, effectively misleading enemy air defence to reduce risk to the strike package. It is equipped with both active and passive RCS augmentation systems to attract and deceive enemy radars and firing units.

Length: 4000 mm

Wing Span: 2 m

AUW: 300 Kg (without booster)

Max Speed: 1000 Km/h

Service Ceiling: 10 Km

Max Range: > 300 Km

Endurance: 1.2 hrs

On-board Power Generation: 2 KW

Power Plant: 1500 N, turbojet

Additional Capability: Capable of performing fighter manoeuvres including formation flying

srai · Post by **srai** » 25 Apr 2025 08:13

JSR Dynamics Khagantak series

https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/1912866089819914314

Su-30MKI with Khagantak 225.

It weighs 243 kgs. Has a range of 180 km when launched from 12 km alt at 0.8 M.

Guidance is INS/GPS along with MWIR seeker for terminal phase.

Has a warhead of 108 kg.

https://x.com/TheMinuend/status/1913511939826917711

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 25 Apr 2025 22:37

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2124415

...
..
DRDL conducted long-duration Active Cooled Scramjet Subscale Combustor ground testing for more than 1,000 seconds at the newly built state-of-the-art Scramjet Connect Test Facility at Hyderabad on April 25, 2025. The ground-test is in continuation of the earlier test reported for 120 seconds in January 2025. With the successful test, the system will be soon ready for full scale flight worthy combustor testing.
....

https://x.com/prudhvitej32/status/19157 ... 8qrjw&s=19

~Mach 6 for 1000 Seconds

That's ~2000 Meters per second for 1000 seconds

Distance travelled will be ~2050 Km

IMO, It will travell 100-150 Km for Mach 6 to Mach 3 deceleration

So whole missile will have a range of ~2,200 Km

FYI Drdo HCM will have glide vechicle properties too

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 27 Apr 2025 20:21

https://x.com/Varun55484761/status/1702 ... 4Jf0w&s=19

As per the info board Brahmos can theoretically talk with other Brahmos missiles and assign the suitable targets so as to avoid hitting the same ship. Never discussed in the forum, isn't it? This same capability exists for the huge 7 ton Russian Granit supersonic cruise missiles which are known as carrier killers.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 28 Apr 2025 10:25

Hriday wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 20:21 Never discussed in the forum, isn't it?

Long back, even when Brahmos was getting inducted into service.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 10 May 2025 20:31

Interview with Dr Prahlad Rao, who headed Akash missile system

https://x.com/MumbaichaDon/status/1921138043638960423

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 11 May 2025 05:53

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umettHlD4 ... UJAYcqIYzv

By youngsters from Bengaluru, interview with our own missile man known for Akash missile system which was effective in operation Sindoor

nash · Post by **nash** » 14 May 2025 23:31

Some source based news on more S-400 and there were some news of S-500 for india:

India seeks additional S-400 missile defence systems from Russia: Sources

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 15 May 2025 01:03

https://www.thestatesman.com/india/indi ... 32643.html
New Anti-drone system tested
Claims by the producer that it is cheap
But I remember the Major General who talked about Op Sindoor saying that upgraded Ack Ack and the cost of shells very very cheap

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 15 May 2025 02:18

Considering that a war is on, these should be tested and added to the air defense network asap. If cheap enough, gram panchayats or housing colonies could be funded to host these to take down the nuisance drones that probe defenses.

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 15 May 2025 18:22

Drone Destroyer Bhagavastra Tested | Induction in 2025

Features of Bhargavastra CUAS
Detection Range: Capable of detecting small drones at distances exceeding 6 kilometers.
Engagement Range: Targets can be neutralized at ranges beyond 2.5 kilometers and altitudes up to 400 meters.
Swarm Neutralization: Equipped to launch up to 64 micro-missiles simultaneously, effectively countering drone swarms.
Dual-Mode Operation: Features both guided micro-missiles and unguided rockets, providing flexibility in response.
Mobility: Mounted on mobile platforms, ensuring rapid deployment across diverse terrains, including high-altitude regions.
Integration: Designed to seamlessly integrate with existing armed forces' networks, enhancing its utility in network-centric warfare.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 17 May 2025 12:01

https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1923425820661453088
@MeghUpdates

Bharat is set to unleash its own HYPERSONIC MISSILE

Just 2-3 weeks ago, we SUCCESSFULLY tested an indigenously developed MISSILE that can FLY at Mach 5 speed, confirms DRDO Scientist Dr. Sudhir Kumar Mishra.

https://x.com/DefenceDecode/status/1923426508183388292
@DefenceDecode
India is on the verge of a major defence milestone with the upcoming debut of an indigenous hypersonic cruise missile capable of flying at Mach 5: Dr. Sudhir Kumar Mishra, Former CEO&MD, BrahMos Aerospace

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 29929.html
"Two-three weeks back, we tested a hypersonic engine. Soon, we will come out with a hypersonic missile that will reach Mach 5 speed. All the technologies for BrahMos were developed in-house by DRDO, we even built the world’s largest launcher ourselves," Mishra said, adding that when other nations compare missile systems and choose to induct India’s, “it means ours is the best.”

Mishra urged better consolidation: “If there are 3,000 companies in every vertical, it becomes tough for buyers to support them. Why don’t you group them?” Commenting on the drone sector, he gave a stark prediction: “Today, there are 400 drone companies. I’m telling you, not more than 20 will survive.”

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 18 May 2025 12:49

From Pakistan ORBAT expert Jaidev Jamval,
https://x.com/JaidevJamwal/status/19232 ... eaxpg&s=19

In 2023, I did some very basic calculations to guess a total of 1200-1500 Brahmos of all types in service with Indian armed forces. Should be 1300-1700 now.
PAF needed just hits by 15 of them plus a few others to go into complete backfoot. I see it, but still seems unbelievable.

nash · Post by **nash** » 19 May 2025 09:48

https://x.com/westerncomd_IA/status/1924129896781209637

#StrongAndCapable
#OpSindoor

Enemy Missiles neutralised... #IndianArmy - impregnable wall of fire

#JusticeServed

@adgpi

@prodefencechan1

In the video share by Western Army command, the missiles used by Pakistan:

A-100, Fateh-1/2 and Shaheen-2(lets say it will be 1/1A).

S-400 and MRSAM both have some ABM capabilities at some level but what are the chances of using of our own AAD/PDV to intercept this missile?
It also means our air defense capabilities are successfully battle proven to intercept almost everything from LMs, MBRLs to BMs.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 20 May 2025 23:26

They have had hypersonic missiles for a while.

If you read between the lines of post op analysis by the more informed commentators, you will as I did conclude the above.