Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[Amber G.]

Meanwhile: Pakistani journalists travel to Israel; Pakistani Foreign ministry reminds that passports are not valid to travel to Israel...

[chetak]

mea culpa.

Apologies.

[neeraj]

The above news is from 2019.

[chetak]

malaysia doesn't want pauper paki katora khans: no shame, no game

malaysia expells pak from azlan shah hockey tournament as pending dues not paid :

another muslim country embarrassing the pakis, yet again



https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spo ... 542133.cms

[bala]

Everyone knows about BLA and Balochistan struggle. But there is another struggle called Sindudesh for the Sindhis of Pak Land. Learn more about it from Col. Ajay Raina.

youtube.com/watch?v=QTcxTgbWOs4

[A_Gupta]

Pakistan National Commission on Human Rights report on recent blasphemy cases.
(PDF file, Pakistan govt web-site): NHCR Investigation into Blasphemy Cases, October 2023 to October 2024.
https://nchr.gov.pk/wp-content/uploads/ ... t-2024.pdf

A finding: "Young men were reportedly targeted through entrapment tactics involving female operatives using pseudonyms to lure them into blasphemous activities online, resulting in their subsequent arrests."

Note: FIA = Federal Investigation Agency

"Young men were reportedly targeted through entrapment tactics involving female operatives using pseudonyms to lure them into blasphemous activities online, resulting in their subsequent arrests....Arrests were often carried out by private individuals rather than law enforcement, and there were disturbing reports of torture both during apprehension and immediately afterward. Detainees’ written statements were frequently obtained under duress, compromising the legitimacy of their content.....Additionally, the detainees face coercion, extortion, and pressure from the private actors involved in their entrapment, who sometimes encourage them to engage in further criminal activities within the prison.

{Central Jail, Adiala Rawalpindi}
The team also uncovered a pattern where individuals, often contacted by females using pseudonyms, were entrapped, lured into blasphemous groups, and enticed to forward blasphemous material, following which they were subsequently apprehended.

{District Jail, Lahore}
NCHR team visited the barracks, finding that the majority of inmates repeated narratives of entrapment similar to those observed in cases of blasphemy at Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi

There appeared to be a pattern and trend linking the Lahore and Islamabad networks, with individuals using the same female pseudonyms. The accused consistently reported a similar modus operandi involving contact by a girl, often from a Spanish number or a fake Facebook ID, leading to entrapment in a honey trap. They were added to blasphemous and ***** Facebook or WhatsApp groups, from where they were asked to reshare objectionable content.

Following the sharing of such material, the accused were lured under false pretenses, including promises of job offers, business opportunities, immigration, or relationships to public places, restaurants etc. from where they were caught- most often by a group of private individuals. Initial arrests were conducted by private individuals, in private cars, leading to private premises where the accused reported severe torture, including physical abuse, recording of videos, and electric shocks. The accused alleged being pressured into signing blank papers that could later be manipulated. Following this initial process of entrapment and abuse, the accused were then allegedly handed over to the FIA.

The people involved in the ‘arrests’ were well connected and influential and were reported to pressurize lawyers, attend hearings to influence judges, and coerce families to sever contact with the accused.

{Central Jail, Karachi}
A chilling pattern runs through these arrests: the repeated involvement of the same 4–5 young women, using identical names and phone numbers to ensnare victims in honey traps. Their tactics are insidious, beginning with befriending young men on social media—most often on Facebook—and gradually luring them to explicit sites. Then, they would coax the men into sharing a specific, blasphemous image, which becomes the grounds for a blasphemy charge and subsequent arrest.

Following this the women would arrange a meeting in a public space, offering promises of marriage, immigration opportunities, financial aid, or expensive gifts. When the men would arrive at the designated location, they would be intercepted by plainclothes individuals and whisked away to undisclosed locations, where their phones would be seized as "evidence," and they would have to endure brutal interrogations and torture.
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The primary network involved in the process appeared to be based in Lahore and is part of a larger alliance working against blasphemers in Pakistan. The network lured individuals to Lahore, offering money for travel, and if declined, alternate plans were made for meetings in Karachi/Sukkur etc. Girls enticed individuals with materials related to ***** and blasphemy, urging them to share it in various social media groups created by the network. Some individuals within the FIA seemed to be cooperating closely with the private entity, enabling it to operate with impunity.

[vimal]

Isn’t this a variant of love zajaad

[A_Gupta]

^^^ Yes, though I can't figure out the motive. The people trapped are low-income, so there isn't much money to be extorted from them. Most of the entrapped are Musalmans, so there is nothing to convert. I'm wondering if the options the entrapped face are go to jail or be slave labor. That is the only motive I can imagine.

[A_Gupta]

The Trump tariff on Pakistan is 29%.

Pakistan is fast asleep, no reaction from its newspapers as I type this.

[Amber G.]

Last rites of 5 Pakistan Army soldiers killed in firing with Indian Army at LoC of India-Pakistan border yesterday. Complete silence of Pakistan media over these killings after unprovoked firing by Pakistan Army in ceasefire violation...


From News Papers:

(Intense gun-battle between India and Pakistan after Pakistan Army violated ceasefire by firing at the Indian side across LoC in KG Sector. Troops of the Nangi Tekri Battalion under Krishna Ghati Brigade of Indian Army retaliated strongly

[RCase]

The Trump tariff on Pakistan is 29%.

Pakistan is fast asleep, no reaction from its newspapers as I type this.

Does that mean Uncle will pay a 29% premium on the announced bounty for Pakistan's 'Primary Export' industry? Pakistanis just got themselves a 29% pay hike (and that too in Dallars).

[A_Gupta]

“ Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi asserted on Sunday that Pakistan stood as a “wall between terrorism and the rest of the world” as he met a delegation of congressmen from the United States in Islamabad.”

[SRajesh]

^^^ Yes, though I can't figure out the motive.

Guptaji
Just a thought.
Post Balakote and Surgical strike I wonder whether there is a mad rush for 72
Momeens are scared of Indian Army action as well as the local overground support in Cashmore is slowly evaporating
I wonder this just a recruitment drive for jihard foot soldiers

[SSridhar]

Richard Armitage, former US Dy. Sec. of State, dies. He is forever 'linked' with TSP.

[Manish_P]

Richard Armitage, former US Dy. Sec. of State, dies. He is forever 'linked' with TSP.

He of the 'Help us or we will bomb Pakistan back to the stone age' joke ..

[sanjaykumar]

To which the Pakistanis replied, ‘but we’re already in the stone age’.

[Manish_P]

To which the Pakistanis replied, ‘but we’re already in the stone age’.

precisely why it was a joke...

[bala]

In this YT clip Pukelands army chief ASim Munir explains (around 9:24) why they are different not like the Hindus of hindustan and why the two nations are bilkul different, nothing in common (forget the DNA, food etc) to expat Pukis.

youtube.com/watch?v=GuVZ9V1u7pc

And in this YT ASim Munir says he will defeat BLA terrorist. Good PR job!

youtube.com/watch?v=KI9miB69TBE

[wig]

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/india/ku ... 435f&ei=19

Kulbhushan Jadhav’s Case Finds Mention In Pakistan’s Supreme Court: ‘Wasn’t Allowed To Appeal…’

extracts

Kulbhushan Jadhav was not allowed the right to appeal in light of a 2019 International Court of Justice (ICJ) verdict as the international court had only addressed the issue of consular access in that case, Pakistan’s Supreme Court was told.

The case was mentioned in Pakistan’s top court as it was said that the right to appeal was not provided to Kulbhushan Jadhav but the same facility was not being extended to Pakistani citizens who had been convicted by the military courts for their involvement in the May 9, 2023 violence.

In 2017, Kulbhushan Jadhav was sentenced to death by a Pakistani military court. In 2019 the International Court of Justice said Pakistan was under an obligation to provide effective review and reconsideration of the conviction and sentence of Kulbhushan Jadhav. At the time, ICJ had ruled that Pakistan was in breach of its international obligations because of the failure to provide consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav.

In 2021, the Pakistan National Assembly adopted a bill to give Kulbhushan Jadhav right of appeal. Pakistan enacted the International Court of Justice (Review and Re-consideration) Act 2021 and the law allowed for the review and reconsideration of military court orders, including those related to foreign nationals, to ensure compliance with the Vienna Convention, the court was told.

[ritesh]

In this YT clip Pukelands army chief ASim Munir explains (around 9:24) why they are different not like the Hindus of hindustan and why the two nations are bilkul different, nothing in common (forget the DNA, food etc) to expat Pukis.

youtube.com/watch?v=GuVZ9V1u7pc

And in this YT ASim Munir says he will defeat BLA terrorist. Good PR job!

youtube.com/watch?v=KI9miB69TBE

Recently, SC milord quoted constitution from numerous countries incld packees. Someone should show this video on the current case an ask them a simple straightforward question abt waqaf bill.

[samsher]

In this YT clip Pukelands army chief ASim Munir explains (around 9:24) why they are different not like the Hindus of hindustan and why the two nations are bilkul different, nothing in common (forget the DNA, food etc) to expat Pukis.

youtube.com/watch?v=GuVZ9V1u7pc

And in this YT ASim Munir says he will defeat BLA terrorist. Good PR job!

youtube.com/watch?v=KI9miB69TBE

Recently, SC milord quoted constitution from numerous countries incld packees. Someone should show this video on the current case an ask them a simple straightforward question abt waqaf bill.

With reference to slumdog munir's comment about how "we are different", yes we are indeed and if you read this article it is crystal clear how.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-teens-inve ... 55199.html
Kudos to the three young men for this achievement.

[sanjaykumar]

There is nothing exceptional about this latest declamation. It is evident there is a gulf of difference in Indians and Pakistanis.

I would hope that Indians scan out Pakistanis at ease on that count.

That akhand bharat thing applies to land not people.

[A_Gupta]

“ In January of this year, Gentry Beach, an American billionaire investor and a close Trump ally, visited Pakistan to look for investment opportunities in the mining sector. Upon his return to the United States, Beach praised Pakistan government’s policies as “favorable for business and investment" and expressed keen interest in investing across various sectors. In a viral TikTok video of his speech at Trump's Florida home at Mar a Lago, Gentry said, " Last week, I had the benefit of visiting Pakistan, an amazing country.....unfortunately, the previous administration (Biden administration), burned every possible bridge they could, they even put sanctions on Pakistan, a close US ally... they (Pakistanis) have sacrificed so much for the American people....Pakistan is a country that we (US) need to build a strong bridge to and partnership with". ”

(Source not linked)

On Gentry Beach:
https://weeklyblitz.net/2025/02/02/gent ... ald-trump/

Gentry Beach in Pakistan:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2588276/pakistan

[sanjayc]

There is nothing exceptional about this latest declamation. It is evident there is a gulf of difference in Indians and Pakistanis.

I would hope that Indians scan out Pakistanis at ease on that count.

That akhand bharat thing applies to land not people.

Only Hindus have this itch of "we are same onlee. Let us be friends onlee." Muslims are very clear who they are and what they are not.

[chetak]

Recently, SC milord quoted constitution from numerous countries incld packees. Someone should show this video on the current case an ask them a simple straightforward question abt waqaf bill.

With reference to slumdog munir's comment about how "we are different", yes we are indeed and if you read this article it is crystal clear how.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-teens-inve ... 55199.html
Kudos to the three young men for this achievement.

samsher & ritesh sirjis,

And in this YT ASim Munir says he will defeat BLA terrorist. Good PR job!

there is real panic in the paki railway ministry, because they really don't have that many trains left ... ..... and nil faith in "ass i am munir"


the overseas pakis clapped so enthusiastically, because they thought that they were all going to be shot and their pockets rifled through

[chetak]

The saudis have deported 4700 paki beggars

Before Modi's Visit to Saudi Arabia : 4700 Pakistani Beggars Deported from KSA : Pakistanis Experience Embarrassment


https://www.facebook.com/61554366115984 ... 547182562/

[ritesh]

With reference to slumdog munir's comment about how "we are different", yes we are indeed and if you read this article it is crystal clear how.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-teens-inve ... 55199.html
Kudos to the three young men for this achievement.

samsher & ritesh sirjis,

And in this YT ASim Munir says he will defeat BLA terrorist. Good PR job!

there is real panic in the paki railway ministry, because they really don't have that many trains left ... ..... and nil faith in "ass i am munir"


the overseas pakis clapped so enthusiastically, because they thought that they were all going to be shot and their pockets rifled through

It's a miracle that it still running, else should have gone bust like PIA decades ago.

[Manish_P]

..
It's a miracle that it still running, else should have gone bust like PIA decades ago.

Haven't you heard, sir, that the PIA is turning a profit.

Of course it is creative accounting using madarssa maths to try and fool rich middle east states in buying it out but none of the sheikdoms seem to be biting yet...

PIA becomes profitable for first time in over two decades

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has emerged from a severe financial crisis, reporting its first annual profit in 21 years and marking a significant turnaround as it moves forward with plans to sell the airline

Additionally, according to Express News, the PIA board of directors approved the airline's financial report on Tuesday, revealing that PIA earned Rs 204.16 billion in revenue for 2024, while incurring Rs 175 billion in expenses, including fuel costs, aircraft leasing, and employee salaries.

[nachiket]

Need to destroy Pakistan.

Diplomacy side, India should invite the Balochs to set up a government in exile in India; and an unofficial mission. Diplomatic recognition to follow.

NRIs, your local Indian grocery store carries products from Pakistan. Tell them you need them not to stock anything from Pakistan if they want your patronage and good will.

India should put as much pressure as it can that IMF should make no further disbursements to Pakistan.

Covert action and military action also must follow.

Guys, please post anything related to the Pahalgam attack in this thread: viewtopic.php?p=2643664

A_Gupta, I'll be moving your post over there.

[g.sarkar]

https://www.businesstoday.in/india/stor ... 2025-04-23
India suspends Indus Waters Treaty: Here's how it impacts Pakistan’s farms, cities, and power
The Indus Waters Treaty, signed in 1960 and brokered by the World Bank, is one of the world’s most durable international water-sharing frameworks. It governs the use of six rivers in the Indus Basin.
Business Today Desk, Apr 23, 2025
In its boldest response yet to cross-border terrorism, India has suspended the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) with Pakistan, ending a 64-year-old water-sharing agreement that survived wars, crises, and decades of hostile diplomacy.
The move follows the April 22 terror attack in Pahalgam, which killed 26 people, including one foreign national. The decision was cleared by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS)—the country’s apex body on national security—after investigators uncovered “cross-border linkages” to the attack.
......
Gautam
Also see:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/india-s ... 26-8238399
and
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/i ... 2025-04-23

[jash_p]

India should stop playing cricket with Pakiland in all form that is including ICC tournament that will stop tons of money to Pakis which is indirectly going to Pak army and for them to terrorist. Last year ICC paid $39 million to PCB out of which India's share was 80%. Only problem is India have signed with ICC that it will paly with Pakis and can not unilaterally pulled out so India should tell ICC to amend that or else India will leave ICC. Is any one is from gov. or knows in Indian gov. please let them know.

[Dilbu]

What India’s Indus Waters Treaty suspension means for Pakistan

One common question that arises in moments like this is whether India can simply “stop the flow” of water into Pakistan. In the immediate term, the short answer is no. Certainly not at the scale that would make a meaningful dent in flows during the high flow season.

The Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab are enormous rivers. Between May and September, as snow melts, these rivers carry tens of billions of cubic meters of water. India has some upstream infrastructure on these rivers, including the Baglihar and Kishanganga dams, but none of it is designed to hold back these kinds of volumes. These are run-of-the-river hydropower projects with very limited live storage. Even if India were to coordinate releases across all its existing dams, all it may be able to do is slightly shift the timing of flows.

The overall volumes in the western rivers during this high-flow period are far too large to meaningfully disrupt without flooding its own upstream regions. India already utilises most of the flow from the eastern rivers allocated to it under the treaty, so any new actions on those rivers would have a more limited downstream impact.

A more pressing concern is what happens in the dry season when the flows across the basin are lower, storage matters more, and timing becomes more critical. That is where the absence of treaty constraints could start to be felt more acutely.

Over the medium to longer term, the picture becomes more complicated. If India chooses to act outside the treaty framework, it opens the door to developing new infrastructure that would give it greater control over the timing and volume of flows into Pakistan. But even then, the path is far from straightforward. Any large-scale dam or diversion project would take years to build. The sites available in Indian-occupied Kashmir for significant water storage are limited and geologically challenging. The financial cost would be enormous. And the political risk would be even greater.

Pakistan has long said that any attempt by India to construct major new storage on the western rivers would be viewed as an act of war. In today’s age of satellites, these structures would not be invisible. They would be contested politically and possibly militarily.

There are also hydrological constraints. Holding back high flows on rivers like the Chenab or Jhelum risks flooding upstream regions in India itself. And the idea of diverting water out of the Indus Basin entirely, into other parts of India would require enormous infrastructure and energy costs that would be hard to justify, even in peacetime.

For Pakistan, the impact of India’s disruption (if manifested) could be far-reaching. Pakistan’s irrigation system is one of the largest in the world, and it depends almost entirely on the predictable timing of flows from the western rivers. Farmers plan their sowing around those flows. Canal schedules are designed based on assumptions that have held for decades. If that rhythm is even slightly disrupted, the water system will begin to fray.

The most immediate risk is to predictability. Even if the total volume of water coming into Pakistan does not change immediately, small changes in when that water arrives can cause real problems. A late-season delay during the wheat planting cycle, or an unexpected dip in flow during the dry winter months, can mean missed sowing windows, lower yields, and higher costs. The Indus Delta is already shrinking due to reduced freshwater outflows. Further uncertainty in upstream flows could accelerate that degradation, with consequences for coastal livelihoods and fisheries.

Any shortfall or shift in river timing will force the state to make hard choices about water allocation. This risks intensifying inter-provincial tensions, especially between Punjab and Sindh, where water-sharing debates are already politically charged.

Then there’s energy. A third of Pakistan’s electricity comes from hydropower, generated by water flowing through Tarbela, Mangla, and other reservoirs. If upstream flows are reduced or poorly timed, it could cut into generation capacity. None of this is speculative. Pakistan is already a water-scarce country, living close to the edge. A system that has long been run on thin margins now faces a new layer of uncertainty.

This most recent announcement that India would “suspend” its obligations under the treaty marks the culmination of a long, escalating trajectory. For the first time since 1960, one country has effectively stepped outside the treaty’s procedural and cooperative framework. Whether this is a negotiating tactic or a permanent break remains to be seen. What comes next will test not just bilateral diplomacy, but the resilience of Pakistan’s water system in a world where guarantees no longer hold.

The Indus Waters Treaty is not perfect. But it does something few agreements between adversaries manage to do. It keeps the rivers flowing and gives both countries a reason to keep talking, even when everything else has broken down. That framework is now under strain. Whether the treaty is reinstated in full, renegotiated, or left to fade in practice, what follows will be harder.

Without clear rules, even small projects can provoke mistrust. Every monsoon, every reservoir, every dry spell becomes a potential source of tension. At a time when climate change is already intensifying droughts and floods, and when both countries face rising domestic water stress, the last thing the region needs is another layer of uncertainty. Yet that is where we now find ourselves.

The western rivers are not just shared rivers. They are Pakistan’s primary source of water. In the long run, there may be reforms or alternatives. But in the here and now, there is no substitute. These rivers sustain lives, livelihoods, and landscapes across the country. Pakistan can simply not afford to let it become collateral in a political fight. Thus, the flows must continue. Not out of goodwill, but because the consequences of stopping them are too great for either country to bear.

[Cyrano]

The article is from DAWN. They are shitting bricks with no water to wash after. But they have other options for that from Stone Age.

[rajkumar]

Pm Modi Vows To Punish Every Terrorists And Their Backers..



I would be very worried at this point if I was a Paki...

[A_Gupta]

TFT:

Vance’s message is clear: as a strategic partner, India must now play its part. “We’ve given you geopolitical backing, trade benefits, restrained Pakistan for your convenience over two decades, and even told the Saudis to hand you a $100 billion investment—now it’s your turn, fat boy!”

But Vance forgot one thing—they’ve fattened the boy so much, he can no longer fight. And so, the bloated partner has conjured up a plan: a false-flag operation. Another episode in the long list that includes Pulwama, the Indian Parliament, the Mumbai Taj attacks—fabricated provocations across two decades of Indo-US strategic partnership. This time too, another stage-managed act unfolds, and within minutes, Godi media screams: Pakistan did it! Punish Pakistan! Vengeance! One wonders if Vance wasn’t startled by the sheer clumsiness of the script. Even he seemed unconvinced. His response: a condemnation and condolences for the victims—without naming Pakistan.

[A_Gupta]

“Pahalgam Attack Live: Pakistan suspends the Simla Agreement with India
“Pakistan shall exercise the right to hold all bilateral agreements with India including but not limited to Simla Agreement in abeyance, till India desists from its manifested behaviour of fomenting terrorism inside Pakistan; trans-national killings; and non-adherence to international law and UN Resolutions on Kashmir,” the Pakistani PM office said in a statement, according to Dawn.”

My commentary - since when did Pakistan follow the Simla Agreement? Or the UN resolutions on Kashmir which required it to withdraw its forces prior to any plebiscite?

[A_Gupta]

Reportedly Pakistan has suspended overflight by Indian airlines.

"Sharif's government also decided to close down the Wagah Border Post and close Pakistan's airspace for all Indian owned or Indian operated airlines."

- Tribute India
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world ... rmeasures/

[chetak]

Reportedly Pakistan has suspended overflight by Indian airlines.

"Sharif's government also decided to close down the Wagah Border Post and close Pakistan's airspace for all Indian owned or Indian operated airlines."

- Tribute India
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world ... rmeasures/

A_Gupta ji,


While going to saudi, Modi ji over flew the paki airspace but when he returned he did not use the paki airspace, he took the longer route


This has become big news on paki SM since yesterday

[A_Gupta]

My Youtube is not working, so I can't post the video, but Alok at DD React had an interesting find - a video of a LeT honcho giving a speech saying that if Kashmir is allowed to cool down, there will be trouble in KP and Balochistan. In the speech, of course, that trouble would be caused by Pakistan's enemies, but LeT morons are no more able to predict what Pakistan's enemies will do than BD caretaker Yunus is the guardian of the seas.

I see it as a threat by the LeT, keep giving us resources for the jihad in Kashmir or we will create other trouble for you.

Then we see Asim Munir making a speech, to try to wean Paki soldiers from their love of Imran Khan. Here I stand, son of a Maulvi, Hafiz e Quran, never lived the decadent Western life style of Imran Khan -- you want more Islam, who better than from me.

Also, recent events suggest that the Pak Army is not in full control of KP or Balochistan.

So, the unknown gunmen are via the Pak Army trying to regain control of the jihadis. The attack at Pahalgam is to unify the discordant factions in the face of reaction by kafir India.

On the other hand, I was listening to Praveen Swami talk to Lt General H S Panag, who seems to be of the opinion that India was at its strongest relative Pakistan in 2002, and relative strength has been downhill ever since. He says India no longer has any technological edge over Pakistan. So maybe Asim Munir is in no distress.

[Dilbu]

Four FC personnel martyred, three injured in Quetta roadside blast

Four Frontier Constabulary personnel were martyred and three other suffered injuries in an explosion near a security vehicle in Quetta’s Margate area, police said on Friday.

Faced with increasing attacks by militants, especially in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, security forces have also intensified counterterrorism operations.

Hanna Urak Station House Officer Naveed Akhtar told Dawn.com that the bomb disposal squad of the security forces was targeted with an improvised explosive device in a Quetta suburb.

“As a result of the explosion, four FC personnel were martyred and three others were injured,” he said.