Pahalgam Terror Attack: News & Discussion

[Amber G.]

Also - news: US Congressmen @RepRoKhanna and @RepMcCormick write to US Secretary of State @SecRubi on Pahalgam Terror Attack by Pakistan’s Lashkar e Tayyiba asking US to enhance intelligence cooperation & support counter-terror cooperation with India.

[Amber G.]

French President @EmmanuelMacron has spoken with Prime Minister @narendramodi on the Pahalgam Terror attack.

मैंने अभी-अभी अपने समकक्ष @narendramodi से मंगलवार को हुए कायरतापूर्ण आतंकवादी हमले पर बात की, जिसमें दर्जनों निर्दोष नागरिकों की दुखद मृत्यु हुई है।

इस शोक की घड़ी में फ़्रांस भारत और उसके लोगों के साथ दृढ़ता से खड़ा है।

फ़्रांस, अपने सहयोगियों के साथ मिलकर, आतंकवाद के विरुद्ध जहाँ भी आवश्यकता हो, लड़ाई जारी रखेगा।

Translated by Grok
I just spoke with my counterpart @narendramodi about the cowardly terrorist attack that took place on Tuesday, which tragically claimed the lives of dozens of innocent civilians.

In this hour of grief, France stands firmly with India and its people.

France, together with its allies, will continue the fight against terrorism wherever it is needed.

[Amber G.]

Former Pakistan Army Major–turned-fifthia–turned-dissenter Adil Raja claims that Hafiz-e-Quran Asim Munir personally ordered the Pahalgam massacre of innocent Hindu tourists, and that he is now panicking in anticipation of an unprecedented Indian response, and reportedly trying to shift the blame onto Afghanistan through psy-ops.

[Amber G.]

Indian embassy in Washington on India freezing Indus Water Treaty

India cannot be expected to continue to cooperate with a country which is responsible for killing innocent civilians"

[A_Gupta]

@Rudradev

I hope the objective of any Indian response is to break the back of TSPA/ISI as a viable national institution in Pakistan once & for all.

I've been wondering the same thing - what is the end game? So, what you have described is a great, almost fantasy, finish.

Can we start with what is the "Minimum Viable Product" that India can accept as the result, and then build on that?
Also I trust India will not give Pakistan some face-saving formula, like e.g., Pakistan's top brass all resign and are allowed to live unmolested in Dubai.

[Amber G.]

Meanwhile:
Since everyone may need a copy .... -

Here is. Now dysfunctional Indus water treaty of 1960

Here is Shimla agreement of 1972.

[Amber G.]

Indu Viswanathan Tweets

The @nytimes, once again, provides us with a magnificent masterclass in how to see everything through an anti-India lens while actively gaslighting Hindus.

(Note: Everything about this post is snarky. Also, I obviously know that the New York Times is biased and, no, I wasn't expecting any better from them.)

Here are my favorite passages in yesterday's article about the #PahalgamTerroristAttack (emboldening in the passage and snarky comments in parentheses after the passages are all mine):

"One day after militants killed 26 people in a tourist group in Kashmir, the Indian government on Wednesday pointed a finger at its archnemesis, Pakistan, announcing a series of punitive actions against its neighbor and hinting at further retaliation."
(Because, of course, India is a petulant brat, not a sovereign nation capable of harnessing its intelligence to determine who was behind a terror attack.)

"India and Pakistan have each laid claim to Kashmir since the end of British colonial rule partitioned India, carving out Pakistan as an independent nation. Kashmir, where Muslims are a majority, has found itself split between the two, with each country administering a part while laying claim to its whole."
(No mention of how Kashmir came to be Muslim-majority, of course.)

"India squarely blames Pakistan for harboring and supporting militants behind attacks like the one on Tuesday."
(Oh my goodness. Pakistan has never been known to harbor and support militants and terrorists before. How DARE India!)

"General Hooda said the fact that the victims were civilians, and that witness accounts in Indian media suggested Hindus had been singled out by the militants, had only added to the pressure."
(This one is my favorite of all time. Could they not find any more ways to water down and distance themselves from the fact that Hindus were targeted for being Hindu?)

"The targeting of Hindus by militants in the 1990s forced an exodus of the minority community from Kashmir."
(Hmmm...and how did they become a minority community, again?)

"One image showed a young woman in a tan jacket visibly distraught, kneeling down by the lifeless body of a man."
(You mean a young Hindu bride still wearing her red wedding bangles sitting next to the Hindu man she had married only days earlier? But yeah, the color of the jacket is a super important detail. Foof. Thank goodness they didn't miss that.)

"The men in the group were singled out, said his son Kunal Gunbote, who flew to Srinagar, the regional capital, on Wednesday morning to identify his father’s body."
(Does the NYT tell us how those particular men were singled out or that it was only Hindu men who were singled out? Intersectionality, folks!!)

"To isolate Pakistan, Mr. Modi has leaned into India’s growing economic and diplomatic power on the world stage. India has even kept Pakistani artists out of Bollywood and Pakistani athletes out of the Indian cricket league — hugely lucrative industries in the region."
(Oh no. A terrorist-producing country is not allowed to benefit from the hugely lucrative industries in the country it terrorizes? Send in the UN. This is a humanitarian crisis. Code Orange.)

(Link to the article. Don't read it unless you have Pepto Bismol nearby.) https://nytimes.com/2025/04/23/world/as ... 27618fddae )

[vimal]

There is no long term plan just knee jerk reactions.

As per dictionary:

Abeyance:
a state of temporary inactivity : SUSPENSION —used chiefly in the phrase in abeyance

It’s clear GoI is already paddling back before the start.

[Vayutuvan]

The statement by the Heritage Foundation, drafted by Jeff Smith.

t is with great sadness we mourn yet another heinous terrorist attack suffered by our great friends in India. The brutal murder of Indian tourists in Kashmir was an unspeakable crime against innocent civilians.

The wording is a little problematic. It should have been "brutal execution of Hindu tourists in the Indian state of Kashmir".

[A_Gupta]

In the Simla agreement, I see that most of the clauses have been violated for years, including the one below, with Kargil:

> In Jammu and Kashmir, the line of control resulting from the cease-fire of December 17, 1971, shall be respected by both sides without prejudice to the recognised position of either side. Neither side shall seek to alter it unilaterally, irrespective of mutual differences and legal interpretations. Both sides further undertake to refrain from the threat or the use of force in violation of this line.

[A_Gupta]

There is no long term plan just knee jerk reactions.

As per dictionary:

Abeyance:
a state of temporary inactivity : SUSPENSION —used chiefly in the phrase in abeyance

It’s clear GoI is already peddling back before the start.

Depends on how long things are in abeyance. For example, India-Pakistan trade has been in abeyance since the repeal of Article 370 - 4+ years.
If the IWT remains under abeyance for that long or more, a lot of water can (not) flow under the bridge. Pakistan will be presented with a lot of fait accompli, which will be irreversible. India will get a permanent chokehold on Pakistan's jugular.

An outright abrogation of the treaty creates more international headaches for India than benefits.

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Pakistan has persisted through numerous defeats to keep attacking India. India has to show that it is more determined and more persistent than the jihadis. It seems to me that in the past Indians after a while, tire, and go back to wanting to pappi-jhappi. I trust not this time. Everyone in India has to recognize that India is in a ongoing state of war; and given that India wants to keep its economic growth targets, this will be more a war of economic attrition and less of armed forces action. What India may do is force Pakistan to keep its armed forces on high alert on all of its borders and interior, stretching it till it breaks. The Pakistani military does not have a growing economy for it to have the resources it will need.

Since IMO the Indian public attention is fickle, the GoI will be wise not to give it a quick satisfaction of a slap to Pakistan.

[williams]

I am a bit amused when people say, "Are we ready for full fledged war". We are at war for a long time, in our own territory with mercenaries from a foreign nation. We are fully deployed and are taking causalities everyday. We now need to take this into enemy territory in a step by step fashion.

We did not do it before, thinking the enemy will come to his senses and we can keep building our economy, military etc etc etc. The option before us now is continue this war in our territory and lose our civilians and soldiers along with the economy in a stalled/slow motion fashion or use our comprehensive national power to destroy the enemy completely. The second option is painful, but necessary if India need to grow into one of the poles in this world.

We have a reasonably good economy and a pretty good geopolitical environment to finish this Paki army subtly supported by the Brits to keep us tied down until they can come back. That ancient strategy has failed for the Brits. Then the Americans rented them for some time and they are gone. The last power that rented them is the Chinese and even they are very reluctant partners. I would say, it is opportune time for India to finish this war and get on with real life.

We have enough economic and diplomatic clout to build, buy or borrow the weapons needed the run this to the end. We need to destroy Paki Army, provide the right to self determination for Baluchis, Sindhis and Afgan tribes; take back PoK and create a new democratic land locked nation called democratic republic of Pakistan.

[pravula]

There is no long term plan just knee jerk reactions.

As per dictionary:

Abeyance:
a state of temporary inactivity : SUSPENSION —used chiefly in the phrase in abeyance

It’s clear GoI is already peddling back before the start.

Liquid oxygen onlee. and peddling back what?

[Amber G.]

Pakistani defense minister Khawaja Asif responds to Yalda Hakim's question on Pakistan funding terrorists.

“Well, we have been doing this dirty work for United States and west for 3 decades....including Great Britain”

[Amber G.]

Watch:
On the Pahalgam terror attack, Reuven Azar, Ambassador of Israel to India, says, "You have a similar situation in which people were going to a music festival and were massacred, and people here were going on vacation and they were massacred. It’s the same death cult, the same distorted interpretation of religion, the same supremacist thoughts. The fact that people think that by breaching every norm of humanity, they will achieve something. This is something that has to be completely eliminated. That’s why Israel has had the resolve to attack Hamas the way it did. We’re going to continue doing it while defending our principles, our laws, and our values. And I’m sure India is going to do the same...

[Amber G.]

Houses of local terrorists involved in Pahalgam terror attacks demolished

[Rudradev]

@Rudradev

I hope the objective of any Indian response is to break the back of TSPA/ISI as a viable national institution in Pakistan once & for all.

I've been wondering the same thing - what is the end game? So, what you have described is a great, almost fantasy, finish.

Can we start with what is the "Minimum Viable Product" that India can accept as the result, and then build on that?
Also I trust India will not give Pakistan some face-saving formula, like e.g., Pakistan's top brass all resign and are allowed to live unmolested in Dubai.

Ok, so minimum viables. Assuming the endgame (finish TSPA/ISI's capacity to serve as a viable national institution) remains the same... here's a very minimalist escalation order.

1) Use all our diplomatic heft to have Pak placed on FATF blacklist. Their time on the greylist, alone, cost them dearly. Blacklist sanctions will hit everyone in their society where it hurts. We must make sure TSPA is blamed both for incurring the pain & being unable to do anything about it.

Yes, in the meantime, we can deploy artillery all up and down the IB & LOC and shell them ceaselessly. Forcing them to spend even more of their meagre money on attempted retaliation. But that's an operational escalation, not a strategic one.

2) We talk a lot about whether India really, truly has the capacity & infrastructure to cut off a significant % of Pakistan's river water. As good STEM-type BRFites, we reason: certainly not.

But does it matter? Remember we have (a) inept, corrupt Paki governance (b) class resentment within Pakistan (c) lovely, lovely Social Media to take advantage of.

For example. A drought occurs in TSP next month. All the regular water thievery, diversion, mismanagement etc account for 98% of the water shortages. IWT abrogation, not even 2%.

But still. Crops fail. Cattle die. Loans are defaulted on, bankruptcies ensue. People (with families) fall sick and die. Everyone is parched.

Curated leaks of instagram videos on whatsapp show common Pakis how the TSPA‐half live (pool parties, water slides, bathing their pedigree dogs with garden hoses on manicured lawns).

This is fertile ground for narrative building of the sort that can drive desperate people to all kinds of extreme acts. The TSPA's first instinct will be: blame it on the jaahil kafirs breaking the IWT. But the question will arise: why can't you jihadi-fistullah faujis fight the kafirs & make them give "our" water back?

What we want is not to wage a water war on the Pakis by building megastructures on the Indus river system. What we want is the Pakis to start fighting all-out water wars among themselves, and TSPA to be exposed as incapable of addressing this very existential problem.

Then at the most torrential phase of the monsoon, open the sluice gates & send the water crashing into Pakistan's already flooding rivers to create a whole new narrative.

Water wars (in Africa & elsewhere) are brutal enough. Water warfare combined with well-executed information warfare... now that would be a sight to see.

3) Buying this much time— (during which we mine as much domestic anti-TSPA political capital within Pakistan as possible)— should also give us enough of a window to massively shore up war stocks, especially for the severely lagging IAF.

The aim of Step 3 is to establish what the Americans in the 1990s called a "No Fly Zone" (in Yugoslavia & Iraq for example). Carve out expanding chunks of (nominally Pakistani) airspace over the BLA & TTP theatres of activity where TSPAF will be interdicted and destroyed if it attempts to operate at all.

This kind of step likely won't be feasible until, as YIP-ji predicts, the preceding greyzone warfare drives TSPA into making a desperate & overt military provocation. It may take a year or more to get to that point.

What I'm recommending is to begin making all required preparations for Step 3 in anticipation that such a provocation is on its way while we pursue Steps 1 & 2 as the means to precipitate it.

[Manish_P]

The statement by the Heritage Foundation, drafted by Jeff Smith.

The wording is a little problematic. It should have been "brutal execution of Hindu tourists in the Indian state of Kashmir".

It is intentional.. as it always has been.

[Manish_P]

I searched the blog of Deans. But I can't find anything related to a presentation of what a very short war between India and Pakistan will look like. If anyone can show the relevant links in the forum or elsewhere it will be helpful.

I haven't written a India-Pak war scenario. Plan to now.

Looking forward to reading it. Knowing your previous work i am sure it will be sane and grounded in-reality and not espousing all sorts of fantasy.

[williams]

I would just go for massive missile attack on every visible Paki military and military's civilian infrastructure. Common Abduls will take care of the rest. They need the iron hand of Paki Army gone. Use all the assets of Army, Navy and Air force. Create panic and chaos in the Pakiland. Then let our generals prepare for more conventional war. Diplomats, economic managers and defense production folks can follow up with slower things. We need to arm the Balochis, TTP, Talibunnies to create havoc. Pakis are not as powerful as you all think. We just have an exaggerated image of them.

[sajaym]

As of this moment, India has still not violated the ceasefire at the LOC...even though Pakistan has disregarded the treaty which recognises the LOC. This is what happens when you don't have a tit-for-tat response ready, and when your response involves complicated planning and execution. India is like a school kid who, when punched by a bully... doesn't punch back but runs back home, calls a neighborhood meeting to form a committee which will then decide what to do and then the committee puts out stories of what the kid could to do to the bully...while the kid waits for an opportunity to do it!

I haven't written a India-Pak war scenario. Plan to now.

Looking forward to reading it. Knowing your previous work i am sure it will be sane and grounded in-reality and not espousing all sorts of fantasy.

Yes, yes this is a great idea! We Indians are SLOW on the trigger but QUICK on the keyboard spinning out stories of our wet dreams. In fact we should keep a Bollywood team ready for such scenarios...so that whenever such a terrorist attack happens we should quickly make a movie with Hrithik Roshan, showing how we took revenge for such an attack! Imagine...Hrithik jumping out of a perfectly good fighter jet and landing on top of the Pahalgam attackers and finishing them off with few dance steps.

[uddu]

https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1915642001598370244
Alpha Defense™
@alpha_defense
And Diwali begins


Artillery strike started?

[Dilbu]

It seems unlikely that GOI plans to eliminate TSPA or ISI how much ever we wish for it. As surgical strike options are already exhausted, it is challenging for IA to take action without risking a prolonged conflict. One option could be to advance towards POK to gain territory, particularly near GB for gaining an access to Afghanistan. However, this might provoke the TSPA into a full-scale war, potentially involving the threat of nooks. Therefore, it is unclear what response is currently being considered as 'beyond their wildest imagination'. One can only hope that Modi is a seasoned politician and would not have made that promise to the public on the go without thinking it through.

[vimal]

There is no long term plan just knee jerk reactions.

As per dictionary:

Abeyance:
a state of temporary inactivity : SUSPENSION —used chiefly in the phrase in abeyance

It’s clear GoI is already paddling back before the start.

Liquid oxygen onlee. and peddling back what?

Back to -1

[Manish_P]

As of this moment, India has still not violated the ceasefire at the LOC...even though Pakistan has disregarded the treaty which recognises the LOC. This is what happens when you don't have a tit-for-tat response ready, and when your response involves complicated planning and execution. ...

Actually we have had tit-for-tat responses in the past. Some fairly immediate (like LOC firing), some which took some time (like air strikes)

We Indians are SLOW on the trigger but QUICK on the keyboard spinning out stories of our wet dreams. ..

I would like to read some realistic scenarios about our options.

For eg - Fantasying about reclaiming PoK is fine sure but how about first try widening the chicken neck by taking territory from another jihadi neighbor - one which is surrounded on all sides by us.

[madhu]

It seems unlikely that GOI plans to eliminate TSPA or ISI how much ever we wish for it. As surgical strike options are already exhausted, it is challenging for IA to take action without risking a prolonged conflict. One option could be to advance towards POK to gain territory, particularly near GB for gaining an access to Afghanistan. However, this might provoke the TSPA into a full-scale war, potentially involving the threat of nooks. Therefore, it is unclear what response is currently being considered as 'beyond their wildest imagination'. One can only hope that Modi is a seasoned politician and would not have made that promise to the public on the go without thinking it through.

surgical strike will not have any effect. unknown gunmen might cripple them for some time but they will regroup because the main head is Army and ISI. more over for terrorist all they need to is fight and die to get 72. it does not matter where they die. so killing terrorist is of no use. we need to kill some kernals and gernals

many OSINT are reporting movement of heavy equipment in pak. but Indian side (for good) no news only meetings.

[Sumeet]

It seems unlikely that GOI plans to eliminate TSPA or ISI how much ever we wish for it. As surgical strike options are already exhausted, it is challenging for IA to take action without risking a prolonged conflict. One option could be to advance towards POK to gain territory, particularly near GB for gaining an access to Afghanistan. However, this might provoke the TSPA into a full-scale war, potentially involving the threat of nooks. Therefore, it is unclear what response is currently being considered as 'beyond their wildest imagination'. One can only hope that Modi is a seasoned politician and would not have made that promise to the public on the go without thinking it through.

Dilbu ji

The main thing is how long can TSP sustain full fledged war with India ? The world is already in turmoil due to US Admin tariffs and Ukr-Russia war. Even a limited time conflict would inflict unimaginable damage to TSP economy/finances when coupled with FAFT blacklist, suspended IWT etc ....

There should be series of operations starting from surgical strike to full scale invasion to claim PoK. That should be our goal. Once PoK is gone paki public will automatically halal TSPA top brass etc.. On the other front hope that Doval & Co have cultivated deep enough ties with Afghans, TTP and Baloch rebels to foment multi dimensional trouble for Pakistan.

Also, a narrative must be played repeatedly ad nauseum through various channels both locally and internationally as well as via diaspora that this is punishment for everything starting from 1989 Kashmir Islamic insurgency, exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, 1993 Mumbai bomb blast, 2001 Parliament attack, series of attacks leading to 2008 Mumbai attack and attacks after that. Additionally, all misdeeds of TSP diaspore should be amplified and broadcasted through various channels.

Indian response is not about just Phalagam 2025. Its about everything from 1989 to 2025 and target should be taking back PoK.

[Cyrano]

No more cold start?

Read what YIP stated. No immediate military action. GoI will force TSP to take the first move even if it takes months.

The mood of the country is not aligned with this. If Modi ji soft pedals the response he promised in public it will cost him and BJP very dearly.

TSP has been making first moves for decades now. I simply don't get the lahori logic of waiting for TSP to make a move. We need more deaths before responding? How many more? What is there to lose if Bharat moves first? This time all major world leaders have immediately come out in our support. Then why this fetish to wait until TSP inflicts one more wound?

[Ashokk]

https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1915210860475322532

#AreaWarning #Pakistan issues a notification for likely missile test in the Arabian Sea Region

Dates | 24-25 April 2025

[chetak]

It seems unlikely that GOI plans to eliminate TSPA or ISI how much ever we wish for it. As surgical strike options are already exhausted, it is challenging for IA to take action without risking a prolonged conflict. One option could be to advance towards POK to gain territory, particularly near GB for gaining an access to Afghanistan. However, this might provoke the TSPA into a full-scale war, potentially involving the threat of nooks. Therefore, it is unclear what response is currently being considered as 'beyond their wildest imagination'. One can only hope that Modi is a seasoned politician and would not have made that promise to the public on the go without thinking it through.

Dilbu ji

The main thing is how long can TSP sustain full fledged war with India ? The world is already in turmoil due to US Admin tariffs and Ukr-Russia war. Even a limited time conflict would inflict unimaginable damage to TSP economy/finances when coupled with FAFT blacklist, suspended IWT etc ....

There should be series of operations starting from surgical strike to full scale invasion to claim PoK. That should be our goal. Once PoK is gone paki public will automatically halal TSPA top brass etc.. On the other front hope that Doval & Co have cultivated deep enough ties with Afghans, TTP and Baloch rebels to foment multi dimensional trouble for Pakistan.

Also, a narrative must be played repeatedly ad nauseum through various channels both locally and internationally as well as via diaspora that this is punishment for everything starting from 1989 Kashmir Islamic insurgency, exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, 1993 Mumbai bomb blast, 2001 Parliament attack, series of attacks leading to 2008 Mumbai attack and attacks after that. Additionally, all misdeeds of TSP diaspore should be amplified and broadcasted through various channels.

Indian response is not about just Phalagam 2025. Its about everything from 1989 to 2025 and target should be taking back PoK.

Sumeet ji,


not so sure that this is such a good idea

because of the scum and vermin that will come along with the land

we must some how separate the two.

a lot of retired pakjabis and rohingiyas have been settled in pok by the paki state to change the local demography and hence the destiny of the natives

[williams]

https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1915210860475322532

#AreaWarning #Pakistan issues a notification for likely missile test in the Arabian Sea Region

Dates | 24-25 April 2025

This means Pakis knew there will be escalation and are prepared for it. We should issue a NOTAM on Paki territory just to have fun.

[Cyrano]

Pojk is not densely populated. Gilgit Baltistan even less. Once Indian army marches in and shows it's fangs, most will run away to paki hinterland. Those who remain can be rounded up and will be a bargaining chip in India's hand. We can exchange them for whatever we want after victory.

Before anyone brings up geneva convention etc. Bharat should not give a flying duck.

[SRajesh]

https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1915210860475322532

#AreaWarning #Pakistan issues a notification for likely missile test in the Arabian Sea Region

Dates | 24-25 April 2025

Sarr
This maybe Porki way of saying dont send any ships
Or Else claim plausible deniability!!

[uddu]

There should not be obsession with P.O.K alone. Territory be it Sindh, Baluchistan, Punjab all need liberation. Pakistan must keep shrinking from all sides.

[Sumeet]

Dilbu ji

The main thing is how long can TSP sustain full fledged war with India ? The world is already in turmoil due to US Admin tariffs and Ukr-Russia war. Even a limited time conflict would inflict unimaginable damage to TSP economy/finances when coupled with FAFT blacklist, suspended IWT etc ....

There should be series of operations starting from surgical strike to full scale invasion to claim PoK. That should be our goal. Once PoK is gone paki public will automatically halal TSPA top brass etc.. On the other front hope that Doval & Co have cultivated deep enough ties with Afghans, TTP and Baloch rebels to foment multi dimensional trouble for Pakistan.

Also, a narrative must be played repeatedly ad nauseum through various channels both locally and internationally as well as via diaspora that this is punishment for everything starting from 1989 Kashmir Islamic insurgency, exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, 1993 Mumbai bomb blast, 2001 Parliament attack, series of attacks leading to 2008 Mumbai attack and attacks after that. Additionally, all misdeeds of TSP diaspore should be amplified and broadcasted through various channels.

Indian response is not about just Phalagam 2025. Its about everything from 1989 to 2025 and target should be taking back PoK.

Sumeet ji,


not so sure that this is such a good idea

because of the scum and vermin that will come along with the land

we must some how separate the two.

a lot of retired pakjabis and rohingiyas have been settled in pok by the paki state to change the local demography and hence the destiny of the natives

Chetak ji,

If India goes into PoK pakjabis will be first to run leaving Rohingyas and natives locked in. There aren't more self centered and b@st@rd folks than Pakjabis in Indian subcontinent.

We should definitely eye PoK. The strategic victory in getting back PoK and correcting mistake of 1948 pales in comparison of getting some more Rohingyas.

[S_Madhukar]

Currently trade negotiations are on for the new world order. No national elections on the horizon. With CCP help TSP has probably got some new gear and recon. Solidarity with the BD mullah displayed. Miya Miya strategic partnership signed. World is looking at West Asia and Europe. Globally system is still theirs though elections are changing that slowly. This is the best time TSP had for doing something like this and in a few months they will try again.

The chief mullah will get his extension, buy his properties abroad and this will forgotten. This is a never ending circus. CCP and TSP achieves its objectives of still having impact and a place at negotiation table. Potentially more $$ if Eyeran gets hot, new Hamas inspired product ready for showtime if Unkil wants more. TSP knows marketing better than we do.

We should not do 1 which is war and 0 which is kadi Ninda. But at least looking at this 0.5 would be destruction of border infrastructure to get some respite and message to the mullah. Between the top 3 leaders one can only hope a better long term solution will be sought

[Ashokk]

Pahalgam Terror: Visa Crisis Deepens As Attari ICP Closed, Families Cry For Help, Demands Re-entry

[uddu]

Long Term Visas already issued to Hindu Pakistanis remain valid: MEA

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst

[chetak]

al-taqiya at it's best!

[chetak]

so, free loading jihadis have put the two nation theory in abeyance because it suits them

just three lawyers, djinna, ghundhy, and neverwho, all three britshit educated, brainwashed, nurtured, empowered and finally unleashed on a hapless civilization which did not understand the concept of shatrubodh, all three were britshit collaborators and anti Hindu jihadis and conspired with their master to set this subcontinent on fire, a flame that continues to burn even today. The paki FM admitted as much (nurturing and funding terrorists) in a interview just a few days ago

Let's not forget the britshit butchers who provided the kerosene and the matches that enabled these losers to do their bidding

none got the nobel because the goras did not want too close a scrutiny of the affairs and traitorous activities of their house niggers

the abdoools and ayeshahs have learned a new word "abeyance"