Operation Sindoor - Bharat Strikes Back: Jai Hind!

[Mort Walker]

Pakistani Cantonments - This is a strangely militarized country

The TSPA RATS want prime property to rip off private & public wealth. Their generals aren't called crore commanders for nothing.

[Cyrano]

For e.g. without compromising Op Sec. Col Qureshi could tell us:
- What was the volume and calibre of the ordnance used when shelling our positions and civilian areas in Kashmir.
- Any firing across the IB ? If so where and what volume.
- Have we responded in the same sectors, or different areas ?
- Breakup of casualties on our side - I would have expected a pic of the two cute Kashmiri Muslim siblings killed.
- Any idea of casualties on their side.

The air force could tell us how many drones and missiles they intercepted. The Russian MOD - not a transparent organization, gives this info
daily, along with casualties from drones that got through.

Why should our govt disclose such information? Just to satisfy jingos like us?
Come on Deans ji, you surely know better. Suggest you re-read Haridas ji's post a couple of pages ago on this thread.

[Cyrano]

If folks have followed official briefings, you will recollect that we are using phrases like ""we responded to the escalation of Pakistan with proportionate force IN THE SAME DOMAIN."

Which means, if they attack us with missiles we will respond with missiles. If they attack our mil installations, we will do the same. etc. you get the picture. If they attack us in x y z sector or extend all along the border from Bhuj to Poonch, we will respond in kind. But when we do respond in that "domain" it will be up to us to decide what that "proportionate use of force" will be.

That is the clever narrative and modus operandi chosen by the govt. It may not satisfy our jingo need for all kinds of technical information on what Pakistan tried to do in which sector and how we responded with what. Please learn to live with it or if you want more, then learn to endure Arnab and other TV cacophony.

[drnayar]

How much of escalation the porkies will do is dependent on Chinese support... probably they are still waiting to hear from them ..the chink amb did meet the chief maulana I think

There should be a major push to designate ISI as a terror organisation.

[uddu]

That sucks, Pakis had videos of Group Captain Abhinandan and Mig 21 Bison Debris within 15 mins, Indian Babus are big pain in ***

On acknowledging it means Pakistan launched war against us and we have to declare war. Especially the peaceniks within will switch from No war to Declare war. Here, there is no declaration of war, but doing what you do during wartime.

[Dilbu]

Times Now Exclusive. Times Now has exclusive information that Pakistan sought to open a new front in Drass sector Thursday night to divert India's attention.
May 9, 2025, 12:57 IST
Drass Deception: Pakistan's 10-Minute Shelling To Distract India From Aerial Strike Plot

Defence sources have exclusively told Times Now that on Thursday night, Pakistan tried to open a new front against India in the Drass sector, as part of a deception to launch an aerial strike on Indian military targets. The sources said that Pakistan shelled Drass sector briefly - from 19:50 hrs to 20:00 hrs - in a bid to divert attention while Pakistani aircraft entered Indian airspace.

The sources said that three Pakistani military jets entered Indian airspace while the Drass deception was underway. However, these jets were quickly intercepted and shot down by the Indian defence systems: one F-16 in Jaisalmer and two JF-17s in Akhnoor and Pathankot.

Multiple Pakistani drones also swarmed into Indian territory to divert Indian armed forces' attention, targeting locations from Leh to Kutch. But these were brought down by India's air defence systems including L70 guns, ZU-23, MR-SAMS, and the S-400 system.

A senior defence official told Times Now, "The Air Defence Umbrella that the IAF provides ensures the civilian population is safe. Last night, we deployed CUAS, Pechora, SAMAR, and AD guns to neutralise the threat. The impregnable air defence wall of the IAF remains vigilant."
India also pounded locations across Pakistan overnight - including Sialkot, a key Pakistani military hub, Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad.

Sources further said that the Indian Air Force responded in a "measured and calibrated" manner, ensuring deterrence while also preventing escalation beyond a controlled threshold.

[S_Madhukar]

We may well be playing the good boy but again I am not sure we will get all our objectives met. Bakis will still claim H&D intact, 1.3M army couldn’t achieve and birader will replenish stocks. Might even encourage more yahoos.

We should not feel satisfied with proportional response just because the war book says so - we need to be flexible with our objectives and customise them based on the escalation. Again let’s see what they have in store today considering the brilliant first 2 nights and 3 days

[Aditya_V]

The sources said that three Pakistani military jets entered Indian airspace while the Drass deception was underway. However, these jets were quickly intercepted and shot down by the Indian defence systems: one F-16 in Jaisalmer and two JF-17s in Akhnoor and Pathankot.

I guess we are waiting to see debris and Pilot details / Tail nos if there is any truth to this

[Dilbu]

First Official Army Video Of India Destroying Pakistan Post Across Line Of Control

Several Pakistani military posts along the Line of Control (LoC) have been destroyed as Indian forces retaliated to cross-border firing by Pakistani troops in the wake of the heightened tensions between the two countries, said sources.

Pakistan resumed firing after India foiled missile and drone attacks by Islamabad after carrying out aerial strikes on terror camps deep inside Pakistan and Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK) as part of Operation Sindoor. At least 50 Pakistani drones were taken down, officials said. Live Updates here

The Indian Army retaliated effectively and neutralised several Pakistani posts from where the firing was being directed. It has shared the first-ever official visual of a Pakistani military post being destroyed across the Line of Control. Sources said anti-tank guided missiles were used to strike the military posts.

It is not known in which sector the video is from, but it signals that the Indian Army is giving an effective reply to the continuous ceasefire violations.

[Dilbu]

Gen. Bakshi is right now saying on Republic TV that paki AWACS within TSP airspace was shot down using S400. He says it is likely that naval action also took place. Hopefully we will get confirmation soon.

[Aditya_V]

A New Report from Indian Express, but still No Pilot details, Debris Pics and Tail No

https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... to-custody

NEW DELHI: Amid high tensions between India and Pakistan, a Pakistani F-16 pilot is reported to have been taken into custody after an Indian Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) system shot down the fighter jet, which had taken off from Pakistan's Sargodha Air Base.

There are unconfirmed reports of the downing of Pakistan’s JF-17—a fourth-generation, lightweight, single-engine, multirole combat aircraft amid the ongoing ‘Operation Sindoor’ by the Indian armed forces

[Dilbu]

All the claims made in TV channels yesterday which were taken off air suddenly are slowly trickling back in. Hopefully this time it is authorised by GOI and will be followed by confirmation later in the day.

[williams]

Something funny is going on. No sign of MoD or EAM briefing. A lot of information is fed to all news channels (all the channels cannot fake up the same information - AWACS shot, Fighters shot, various pak cities attacked etc, etc). And the elephant in the room is no matter how much Pakis dance, IWT is still in abeyance. US says it is none of their business. Chinese are muted in their support.

[partha]

A New Report from Indian Express, but still No Pilot details, Debris Pics and Tail No

https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... to-custody

NEW DELHI: Amid high tensions between India and Pakistan, a Pakistani F-16 pilot is reported to have been taken into custody after an Indian Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) system shot down the fighter jet, which had taken off from Pakistan's Sargodha Air Base.

There are unconfirmed reports of the downing of Pakistan’s JF-17—a fourth-generation, lightweight, single-engine, multirole combat aircraft amid the ongoing ‘Operation Sindoor’ by the Indian armed forces

Yeah saw this just now. If this report is true, what could be the reason there are no pics of either the plane or the pilot?

[Deans]

For e.g. without compromising Op Sec. Col Qureshi could tell us:
- What was the volume and calibre of the ordnance used when shelling our positions and civilian areas in Kashmir.
- Any firing across the IB ? If so where and what volume.
- Have we responded in the same sectors, or different areas ?
- Breakup of casualties on our side - I would have expected a pic of the two cute Kashmiri Muslim siblings killed.
- Any idea of casualties on their side.

The air force could tell us how many drones and missiles they intercepted. The Russian MOD - not a transparent organization, gives this info
daily, along with casualties from drones that got through.

Why should our govt disclose such information? Just to satisfy jingos like us?
Come on Deans ji, you surely know better. Suggest you re-read Haridas ji's post a couple of pages ago on this thread.

I'm not asking for any details that can help the enemy - I do know better than that,
I follow Russia on a daily basis and secrecy is far more ingrained in their DNA than it is in ours. Yet, they provide for e.g. a running total
(incl. helpful charts) on the drones they intercepted - by sector and civilian casualties from those that got through.

The answers to what I'm asking, are known to Pak, there's no reason why they can't be known to us. If we have fired 155mm shells, the
Pakis know it. Our people being shelled have the right to know if we are responding in kind to their shelling. Just saying befitting reply
or word sophistry, won't cut it.
If we provide next to no info and answer no questions, the MOD should simply put up a press release on their web site.

In the absence of info, the media will run wildly speculative stores that are causing confusion and in some cases vindicating Pakistan's
view that our info is unreliable. There are some obvious examples of fake news and the presser would be a great opportunity to debunk them, instead of people saying why the govt does not deny certain things.

To take Russia as an example (because it's an elephant that's learnt to dance), they have reporters from the main channels embedded with
army units. They provide interesting stories and humanise the war. Some reporters have been killed in the field. There was one pretty reporter
who did everything the soldiers did, from digging trenches to firing at drones (with a trademark teddy bear in her backpack) who was widely
mourned when she was killed in action. Other reporters are veterans - the kind who can take over a LMG from a dead soldier.
We have reporters and stringers that are moving around unsupervised and mistake any moving light in the sky for a F-16.

[williams]

We have reporters and stringers that are moving around unsupervised and mistake any moving light in the sky for a F-16.

[srai]

Yes they are radar controlled and have better caliber rounds. This BTW is the best example of pure desi jugaad and has become excellent weapon for low flying targets. Here is a summary of all that is done to this ancient Swedish origin gun. https://bel-india.in/product/l-70-gun-upgradation/

Thank You!!

Also, L&T Sudarshan CIWS (based on L-70) won first lot orders in 2024.

• 240 -> IAF
• 220 -> IA (?)

Second lot orders are supposed to be much larger.


https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1691627010999599495


https://x.com/DefenceDecode/status/1499713473864896514


https://www.larsentoubro.com/lt-pes/our ... sudarshan/

L&T’s Close-In Air Defence System, Sudarshan, is designed to protect critical assets such as air bases, military stations and power plants from aerial threats in all weather conditions. The system which consists of a Search Radar, Fire Control Radar (FCR) and Anti-Aircraft Guns is capable of protecting critical assets from aerial threats in the range of 30 km. Its command and control unit with built-in Threat Evaluation and Weapon Allocation (TEWA) software, can automatically identify, classify and prioritise between different aerial targets. TEWA also assigns the suitable weapon to each target. This capability helps the Flight Commander tackle multiple threats in dynamic battle scenarios.
Key Features:
Search Radar: S Band, 30 km range with 1 m² target
Command & Control Unit: Multi-Sensors Data Fusion and Simultaneous Target Designation
Fire Control Radar: X-Band and 6 km Target Detection with 0.05 m² Target Area
Firing Unit: Unmanned turret equipped with 40 mm Air Defence Gun, 3.5 km effective range and 300 rpm rate of fire

https://www.larsentoubro.com/lt-pes/our ... aad-tratr/

Key Features:
Provides round the clock, 360° protection in all weather conditions, across all types of terrains
Can engage various targets such as fighter aircraft, transport aircraft, helicopters, remotely piloted aircraft, cruise missiles, PGMs, microlight aircraft flying at various speeds
Can be controlled through Fire Control Radar or independently through Electro Optic Sight and on-board
Fire Control System (EOFCS)
Effective range > 3.5 km
Rate of fire - 300 rounds/min
60+ ready-to-fire programmable ammunition
Capable of firing programmable ammunition
Automatic round-by-round programming to engage various targets
Equipped with ECCM (Electronic Counter-Counter Measures)
Automatic gun levelling and tilt correction system
Fully automated deployment and out-of-action capability
Unmanned turret ensures safety and comfort of crew members operating the gun

[SRajesh]

IPL suspended

[Dilbu]

What a joker this guy is turning out to be.

Pakistan defence minister Khawaja Asif debunks own ISPR propaganda of intercepting Indian kamikaze drones.
Say Indian drones were not intercepted to hide location of ADS systems.
https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1920758168012964057

[drnayar]

Fully intact PL 15 recovered from inside indian territory

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 021161.cms

Designed to target aircraft from a distance of approximately 200 to 300
kilometers, the PL-15 is considered a signicant leap in Chinaʼs aerial warfare
technology. It features an active radar homing guidance system and is
equipped with a two-way data link, allowing it to receive mid-course updates
from the launch platform or other sources such as AWACS aircraft.

Studying such a missile would allow Indian defence scientists and engineers to analyse its internal systems — seeker, propulsion,datalink, and electronic counter-countermeasures.

Additionally, India could use this intelligence to enhance the readiness and
tuning of its ground-based air defence systems like S-400 to intercept similar
threats.

The americans would certainly be interested as well !!

[Cyrano]

What a joker this guy is turning out to be.

Pakistan defence minister Khawaja Asif debunks own ISPR propaganda of intercepting Indian kamikaze drones.
Say Indian drones were not intercepted to hide location of ADS systems.
https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1920758168012964057

He is saying that because people all over Pak are asking why drones were not intercepted. So he came up with this Lahori logic response

[chetak]

Why should our govt disclose such information? Just to satisfy jingos like us?
Come on Deans ji, you surely know better. Suggest you re-read Haridas ji's post a couple of pages ago on this thread.

I'm not asking for any details that can help the enemy - I do know better than that,
I follow Russia on a daily basis and secrecy is far more ingrained in their DNA than it is in ours. Yet, they provide for e.g. a running total
(incl. helpful charts) on the drones they intercepted - by sector and civilian casualties from those that got through.

The answers to what I'm asking, are known to Pak, there's no reason why they can't be known to us. If we have fired 155mm shells, the
Pakis know it. Our people being shelled have the right to know if we are responding in kind to their shelling. Just saying befitting reply
or word sophistry, won't cut it.
If we provide next to no info and answer no questions, the MOD should simply put up a press release on their web site.

In the absence of info, the media will run wildly speculative stores that are causing confusion and in some cases vindicating Pakistan's
view that our info is unreliable. There are some obvious examples of fake news and the presser would be a great opportunity to debunk them, instead of people saying why the govt does not deny certain things.

To take Russia as an example (because it's an elephant that's learnt to dance), they have reporters from the main channels embedded with
army units. They provide interesting stories and humanise the war. Some reporters have been killed in the field. There was one pretty reporter
who did everything the soldiers did, from digging trenches to firing at drones (with a trademark teddy bear in her backpack) who was widely
mourned when she was killed in action. Other reporters are veterans - the kind who can take over a LMG from a dead soldier.
We have reporters and stringers that are moving around unsupervised and mistake any moving light in the sky for a F-16.

Deans ji,

Every thing you say is true and one tends to agree with you.


I am just pointing out that this govt is simply not going to part with these details and no one is going to be able to convince them otherwise. Yes the pakis have the details but the GoI is not going to give that info to anyone.


About the MOD website, there are some reports about it being hacked


Other reports say that many ATM networks have also been hacked. Both these events are unconfirmed as yet but are a very real possibilities to be considered


the situation with the pakis is unusual and the govt will be extra careful not to step on any landmines during the press briefings


the pakis are putting out fake news because that is what they do. How much of it are you going to be able to counter


russia will do what suits its interests best and we have enough presstitutes and dork media here at home that are always in rogue mode


after the buddhi butt fiasco, both in 26/11 and kargil, the IA avoids the embedded press scene. In fact, the GoI has banned all press within a certain number of kms from the front lines. No press is being allowed into any military base, anywhere in the country


buddhi butt was slyly sent into the front lines, with a satellite phone, no less, by some one very high up in the BIF deep state ecosystem. Her nanga nach during the mumbai attack was also facilitated by the same ecosystem. Her sheer arrogance confirmed the fact that she was under the personal protection of someone near the very top of the food chain and she was considered invulnerable by anyone who attempted to impede her entree and was always provided with priority access to any place that she chose to go.


Today she has trouble getting an auto to cart her fat ass around


those ecosystems are still active today. Ergo, no news gets out except for the MOD's "to the point" press briefings.


This is the price the GoI is willing to pay.

[nishant.gupta]

^^ Its like saying I didnt take out the umbrella when it was raining because i did not want it to get wet

[Shaktimaan]

As a reply to last night’s escalation we should take over the Akhnoor Dagger tonight. Possible?

[Cyrano]

Deans ji,
Please listen to Gen Narayanan and Gen P R Shankar who have worked extensively on our defence systems who have shared a lot of info on how the entire defensive grid works (if you havent already) on Gunner's Shot and Jaipur Dialogs over the past few days. That should be good enough to whet our appetites, any further details about what components of the grid worked where how and how much will involve current operational details which I'm sure you'll agree are not required to be shared. Lets put this matter to rest and wait for MEA & forces' updates whenever they come.

[Aditya_V]

Atleast Dhanush, Bofors, K-9, Pinaka, CBU-105 from Jaguars, Long range missiles from Helicopters, should open up, there is enough Paki Artillery/ Armour, Fuel? Ammo Dumps, Telcom equipment , Bridges, Paki trucks, A-100 - its a Target rich environment with HALE/MALE UAV, Satellite, Anti Artillery radars all letting us know where these are.

[Cyrano]

The way India is playing it is to let Pak climb the escalation ladder and riposte 10x at that level. Thats very clear from MEA briefings. So we can dream, wish, speculate but opening a new domain of mil action is now Pak's prerogative and risk.

[Trikaal]

Nothing has happened today right? Looks like both sides are deescalating now.

[Dilbu]

The govt briefing is now again moved to 5.30 PM. Could this be due to some de-escalation negotiations happening in the background? This is happening alongside actions such as invoking emergency medical provisions and calling up the territorial army. It appears that preparations are being made, whether for a potential settlement or further escalation.

[drnayar]

Nothing has happened today right? Looks like both sides are deescalating now.

wait for midnight

[ritesh]

Is this legit video??
https://x.com/Savit12/status/1920777910236905780
From Karachi bandar

[Bala Vignesh]

Is this legit video??
https://x.com/Savit12/status/1920777910236905780
From Karachi bandar

Nope, it is not. It clearly looks like graphics and not real life.

[Dilbu]

From Vishnu Som.

This is distilled, vetted information cleared for use:
*Last night, the Indian Air Force effectively neutralized enemy attacks using its Integrated Air Command and Control System (IACCS).
* There was a counter-attack where the IAF used long range loitering munitions to hit Pak targets.
* Shoulder mounted surface to air missiles were used to engage incoming drones.
* Several advanced counter-drone systems were used including, but not limited to electronic jamming rifles. The goal was to jam the navigation systems of these incoming drones.
*The IAF also used the SAMAR system, a short-range, quick-reaction air defense system developed by the Indian Air Force, utilising refurbished Russian R-73 and R-27 air-to-air missiles to intercept low-flying aerial threats like drones.
https://x.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1920774168267944200

[Mollick.R]

Operation Sindoor India Pakistan Live: Home Ministry asks states, UTs to activate emergency powers for swift precautionary action

Operation Sindoor India Pakistan Live: Defence Ministry empowers Army Chief to call up Territorial Army personnel

Operation Sindoor India Pakistan Live: AIIMS Delhi prepared for mass patients with well-stocked meds, assures doc

Operation Sindoor India Pakistan Live: JP Nadda to chair review meeting over health infra

Operation Sindoor India Pakistan Live: Amit Shah holds meeting with BSF, CISF chiefs at 12.30pm

Operation Sindoor India Pakistan Live: IPL 2025 suspended indefinitely due to India-Pakistan military tensions

Connect the dots..............

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 011915.cms

[SSridhar]

What a joker this guy is turning out to be.

Pakistan defence minister Khawaja Asif debunks own ISPR propaganda of intercepting Indian kamikaze drones.
Say Indian drones were not intercepted to hide location of ADS systems.
https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1920758168012964057

No, he isn’t a joker. He is seriously concerned that whatever ADS are left would be gone too the moment they are turned on. Already Lahore is nood. He is in a preservation mood !

[Dilbu]

Since Pakistanis are having a hard time to believe that they were hit at 9 locations simultaneously, even 200 km deep inside their territory...

Here's a short thread containing HD pics of aftermath
https://x.com/TacticalKafir/status/1920793566986567891

Bonus:
4k shots
https://x.com/TacticalKafir/status/1920796928381468933

[Deans]

Deans ji,
Please listen to Gen Narayanan and Gen P R Shankar who have worked extensively on our defence systems who have shared a lot of info on how the entire defensive grid works (if you havent already) on Gunner's Shot and Jaipur Dialogs over the past few days. That should be good enough to whet our appetites, any further details about what components of the grid worked where how and how much will involve current operational details which I'm sure you'll agree are not required to be shared. Lets put this matter to rest and wait for MEA & forces' updates whenever they come.

On this I agree. I interact with Gen P R Shankar on Linkedin.

[SSridhar]

The way India is playing it is to let Pak climb the escalation ladder

In 1971 too, IG waited for TSP to escalate and the moment the PAF bombed in the western theater, that’s when IG declared war.

[Deans]

As a reply to last night’s escalation we should take over the Akhnoor Dagger tonight. Possible?

Possible, but in the larger scheme of things, I doubt it serves a purpose. It is recognised by us as Pakistani territory. Pak will give it up, then
whine in all International forums that we have occupied their territory. Better to take some territory to improve our positions across the LOC
which Pak says is disputed territory.
Simpler to shell the inhabitants of the Akhnoor strip. It is indefensible. I shell into Jammu = 5 shells into the Punjabi population of the strip.

[Dilbu]

This was uploaded 45 mins ago.

India Shots Down Pakistan’s AWACS in Retaliation | Operation Sindoor

India has neutralised Pakistan military's attempt to hit military stations in Jammu, Pathankot, Udhampur and some other locations. New Delhi’s retaliation not only destroyed drones and missiles, but also shot down Islamabad’s Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, marking a significant blow to Pakistan’s air surveillance and battlefield coordination capabilities.