Just finished watching the presser. Very scripted and not deviating from their usual stance of pakis being irresponsible and we targeting only their mil infra. A grand total of 10 secs worth of video showing some non-descriptive action, and few pics. Very sarkari press conf. Sigh!
https://x.com/OsintTV/status/1921077437179588849Images of airbases shown debunking Pakistans misinfo about hitting with precision with timestamp
India shows videos of normalcy in its airbases after Pakistani attacks debunking claims of Pakistani propaganda, India shows time-stamped images of Indian air bases undamaged.
Jay wrote: ↑10 May 2025 11:07Just finished watching the presser. Very scripted and not deviating from their usual stance of pakis being irresponsible and we targeting only their mil infra. A grand total of 10 secs worth of video showing some non-descriptive action, and few pics. Very sarkari press conf. Sigh!
Did not take one single question from any journalists.
I can say the Indian AIr defence systems are networked and controlled and act in a measured way..it will not launch a s400 at a small uav. There is enough ammunition for several porkistansArmuan wrote: ↑10 May 2025 11:00 With all the relentless work being done by our layered air defense systems, just wondering:
1) How is PA able to muster these many drones & loitering munitions? Are these drones low value variety, or more substantial? What kind of missiles do they launch (other than purported Fatah)?
2) How are we spending our ADS on these? I can understand a SAM spent against an enemy aircraft. During the first days into this confrontation, news media claim approx. 500 drones and missiles have been shot down till now. Media houses also claim (NDTV, FirstPost) the pakis are probing our defenses for any weakness, so this is just a start.
ADS would be a mixture of Akash, Barak, etc., modernized L70 guns, ZU 23, and of course S400. And then there are hand-held drone neutralizing guns and manpads. Wonder how much risk there is of running out of stock of key ADS missiles. We are just starting and consuming ADS munitions at a rapid clip. Hope we replenish rapidly.
Please don't answer #2 if it involves sensitive info, or rather not discuss openly.
Thanks.
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I hope we have inducted our BMD systems: PAD-AAD, AD-1 & AD-2williams wrote: ↑10 May 2025 09:00 I don't know, my confidence about Pakis ability to hit anything in India has gone down to zero. Our AD cover seems to be of quite good quality and our strikes against them seems to be criminally precise. No doubt they were relying on Jihadis to fight India so far. We just need to take out their Fauj bases and perhaps release Imran to take over Pakis administration.
-----------Breaking news; Pakistan Airforce IL-78 Mid Air refuller, at Nur Khan Airbase, hit & destroyed in Indian missile strike. @Lone_wolf110 thanks for finding it. Huge blow to PAF. Two of these stationed here. Both or at least one out completely judging by explosion.
#OperationSindoor
Clear picture of two hits at #Nur Khan Air Base #IL78 of #PAF taken out.
#OperationSindoor
---------Udhampur.
A porki aircraft attacked the NCO mess (vacant at that time), an old ATC (a couple of injuries since not functional) and one of the gates.
This explains three plumes
-------Turkish Yiha-69 stealth UAS successfully shot down by Indian air defence today morning.
Debris fell in Sialkot.
-------#BREAKING: India has brought down 2 Pakistani Fighter Jets during an insane dogfight in the Kashmir valley around Srinagar-Budgam-Baramulla. Search parties from J&K Police, Indian Army and CRPF are trying to locate the pilots for early delivery of tea.
------Lots of places in Pakistan from where aircraft and drones can take off from. But very few of them are more than just a basic airstrip.
Command and logistics nodes are probably the next major targets.
I don't fully agree with the above post by Manik, but there is some merit in it. For eg the approval of 1 billion dollars for Pak from IMF is an indicator of the support by West.Why is Pakistan in a hurry to wage war with India ? And doing everything possible, for India to scale it up ?
Pakistan cannot sustain a long drawn war or even deployment. In case this goes on, we will dry them out - money and water wise.
Pakistan has no answer to this predicament. It’s only gamble is, let’s get the war started asap and see how it goes.
Because once we go full scale, the international community will side either way. And that means Pakistan will have access to resources from allies. A lot of them. Coz it’s war time !
One problem solved.
They also understand and hope that if there is a lot of pressure on both nations to stop fighting and India Pakistan do come on negotiating table, water will also be resolved since that’ll be India’s gesture towards peace.
Hence, they will keep escalating to nudge India more, every day.
Our limited and calculated response means that we understand what they are aiming for and we are not taking the bait.
Keep hammering them, keep responding and keep them on their toes. But let’s not push and pressurise the gov to wage a full scale war yet. If and when we want to, let it be on time and place of our choosing.
The aim and the only aim of war is to win it. Let’s do that
#OpSindoor
Relatively cheap, and disposable. And given the experience with cheap drones in the Armenian-Azerbaijan war and the Ukraine war, all countries are stockpiling drones of all kinds as a way to perform standoff attacks on the cheap and in numbers. The bonus is that thr cost to neutralize these are quite expensive. Typically, it'll be cheaper to use electronic and non-kinetic approaches to disrupting drones, but the only sure way to destroy a possibly-armed drone are kinetic means.Armuan wrote: ↑10 May 2025 11:00 With all the relentless work being done by our layered air defense systems, just wondering:
1) How is PA able to muster these many drones & loitering munitions? Are these drones low value variety, or more substantial? What kind of missiles do they launch (other than purported Fatah)?
That's always the big operational question... what to prioritize and how. And any specific information about this would be a highly guarded secret. At the moment, it looks like we aren't at the point of needing to prioritize protection, so without knowing more, it looks like they're fairly confident about our stockpiles.2) How are we spending our ADS on these? I can understand a SAM spent against an enemy aircraft. During the first days into this confrontation, news media claim approx. 500 drones and missiles have been shot down till now. Media houses also claim (NDTV, FirstPost) the pakis are probing our defenses for any weakness, so this is just a start.
ADS would be a mixture of Akash, Barak, etc., modernized L70 guns, ZU 23, and of course S400. And then there are hand-held drone neutralizing guns and manpads. Wonder how much risk there is of running out of stock of key ADS missiles. We are just starting and consuming ADS munitions at a rapid clip. Hope we replenish rapidly.
That would mean the Paki ADS is pretty weak/ non-existent.Thakur_B wrote: ↑10 May 2025 11:39 https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1921074723175494066?s=19
BREAKING
Indian Govt confirms air strikes on PAF bases Nur Khan, Rahamiyar Khan, Rafiqui, Murid, Sialkot and two radar bases using precision weapons launched from fighter aircraft early this morning.
My assessment of the chance for de-escalation will be based on how loudly pak touts their losses or extent of Indian attacks. If they're keeping things quiet about military losses, that to me seems like a positive indicator.williams wrote: ↑10 May 2025 11:36 I don't see how this can be de-escalated. We gave them off ramp for more than 48 hours. Until today early morning. They don't seem to take it. Now definitely we took off some major Paki assets to mildly put it. I think Pakis have underestimated Modi Ji. He will see to the end of it if they wish.
Yes! There is simply no believable evidence to the contrary. A few cruise missiles launched here and there is all that is happening. Both Airforces are operating ~100Km away from the border and launching standoff weapons some of which are reaching targets. The MEA presser today seems to be reflect the above fact. A lot of noise real and imagined but very little substance.
When push comes to shove, we should plan to take these guys out of commission before things go out of hand.SRajesh wrote: ↑10 May 2025 11:49 Williamsji
I dont think the two people controlling TSPA will listen to anything rational by Unkil or Ummah
Take note:
1. Asim M is a son of a Mullah risen to this high post. Fed poison from childhood, he is Hafiz. He has been DG Military Intelligence and DG ISI. He is a Full on ISIL and thinks he has superior intelligence than any hindu/baniya to beat us
2. Asim Mallik DG ISI, is a son of UN designated terrorist!!(if some reports are to be believed). But he(meaning father) is a veteran of 65 and 71 wars and carries the scar which he has probably transmorgified onto the son!!!
Now when you have this combo how the hell do you expect any sanity
There is only Qatal Ki Raat with these two!!!
My only concerns is how quickly will these two wierdos come the ladder!!
Shebahz the Clown has called the committe holding key!! but we all know who has summoned that meeting.
The Clown will only carry the can if everthing goes pear shaped in coming days!!
Had a conversation with US @SecRubio this morning.
India’s approach has always been measured and responsible and remains so.
I am overall liking the GOI response... All iz Well, this is a minor fracas only and we are waiting for Pakistan to climb down... not really doing much apart from sending a few Brahmos salvos to strike their airbases. The strikes may be very hard but the verbosity is low. Strike hard quietlyDilbu wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:00 There are many things that could improve in the press meeting but it cannot be denied that the tone from day 1 has been very non confrontational. There is no bragging or threatening. Always pointing towards our commitment towards de-escalation at the earliest opportunity. Our actions on the other hand have been very hard hitting. Overall it looks good so far.
Probably some street dog fight in Gawalmandi street
