Operation Sindoor - Post Conflict Analysis
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If indeed it was that the Americans got spooked by the strike on Pak nuclear facilities and pressed us for a ceasefire I wish we could have gotten some public concession from them and Pak
They wouldn't admit to losing F-16s but I would have hoped for stronger condemnations of Pak actions and at least a little acknowledgment of our goals and stance. Especially for supposedly the most pro India white house ever
The only time Pakis weren't able to win the narrative battle was in 71 because it was a public humiliation for them, Every other time battlefield losses have been spun into victories and stalemates because of the pro Pak lobby in the West putting their foot on the scale when measuring outcomes.
This time too they were hit hard and lost a lot of assets and took damage but in many ways can keep their PR/HD intact because of
Getting the IMF Loan approved , India agreeing to cease in hostilities before any major humiliation and the western press gobbling up their propaganda of Indian losses...this will get an extra leg up if it turns out we actually had any airframe losses.
They wouldn't admit to losing F-16s but I would have hoped for stronger condemnations of Pak actions and at least a little acknowledgment of our goals and stance. Especially for supposedly the most pro India white house ever
The only time Pakis weren't able to win the narrative battle was in 71 because it was a public humiliation for them, Every other time battlefield losses have been spun into victories and stalemates because of the pro Pak lobby in the West putting their foot on the scale when measuring outcomes.
This time too they were hit hard and lost a lot of assets and took damage but in many ways can keep their PR/HD intact because of
Getting the IMF Loan approved , India agreeing to cease in hostilities before any major humiliation and the western press gobbling up their propaganda of Indian losses...this will get an extra leg up if it turns out we actually had any airframe losses.
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Very well done video. From Pahalgam Terror attack to right now. Everything is covered well. She has a pretty good American accent as opposed to kuntraaversy type poor British accent of most other channel anchors. Since American is the new Lingua Franca, this is the one which should be circulated among your friends who start spewing CNN/BBC narrative of "militants (instead of terrorists), two noocular adversaries, war is bad" banalities. Also Trump saying "1000 year conflict" was addressed by Palki Sharma. Shiittistan came into existence only in 1947, i.e. not even 100 years hence.chetak wrote: ↑12 May 2025 05:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXo0EKfxXjY
Operation Sindoor: How Pakistan Stood Down After India's Attack
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We should demand the right to bomb 5 sites / day for the next 50 years
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IAF confirmed Shooting down lots of "High Tech" Jets, this along with AMRAAM / PL15E intact- meaning the missiles were Jammed and came down. Looks J10/JF17 Block 3 and F16 went Shaheed in front of Metoer/ Astra -1 etc.
All the Propaganda with PL15 is coming down to Zilch. As part of negotiations we must make publish details of F-16 loss on 27 Feb 19, important for the psyche.
All the Propaganda with PL15 is coming down to Zilch. As part of negotiations we must make publish details of F-16 loss on 27 Feb 19, important for the psyche.
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Sorry not adding real value, but if it helps great!
China PL-15 = Peking Lavatory / Public Lavatory
China JF10 = Just Fart
China PL-15 = Peking Lavatory / Public Lavatory
China JF10 = Just Fart
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Aditya_V wrote: ↑12 May 2025 08:45 IAF confirmed Shooting down lots of "High Tech" Jets, this along with AMRAAM / PL15E intact- meaning the missiles were Jammed and came down. Looks J10/JF17 Block 3 and F16 went Shaheed in front of Metoer/ Astra -1 etc.
All the Propaganda with PL15 is coming down to Zilch. As part of negotiations we must make publish details of F-16 loss on 27 Feb 19, important for the psyche.
Aditya_V ji,
pliss to let those conducting the war decide on the timelines, and all the what, when, and where paraphernalia. It's their call
They are doing quite well on all counts, when last heard
when the rest of the world is against you, it will be difficult for India to control the narrative in the way that she wants or needs
the cheeni, the goras, and the pakis, along with their ummah pals and multiple jihadi biradari are still processing
there are multiple big time players eagerly wanting such details as their global weapon markets are affected oy the results and the outcomes
no need for India to make their lives any easier
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There are criminal cases against such people and are outside batting for Pakistan instead of being in Jail. The stupidity of some people rescuing the likes of these kind of brainless dudes is a serious issue that we have to resolve as well.
From @Manik_M_Jolly
https://x.com/Manik_M_Jolly/status/1921760011631370401 ---> These influencer sorts have no morals, no nationalism and absolutely no shame. This is between armies! So Indian Army is not part of India? He always appeared very dumb, but I didn’t know he actually is. And this much.

From @Manik_M_Jolly
https://x.com/Manik_M_Jolly/status/1921760011631370401 ---> These influencer sorts have no morals, no nationalism and absolutely no shame. This is between armies! So Indian Army is not part of India? He always appeared very dumb, but I didn’t know he actually is. And this much.
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uddu ji,
This little $hit needs to be banned forthwith.
This is the outcome when cheap charlie paters use expired rubbers.
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Amber-ji,
S-400 Zindabad!
Onwards to S-500, which they had already offered to us a couple of years ago
Putin knows his marketing almost as well as kotler, if not better......

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A loud round of applause for DRDO and the scientists who toiled hard to achieve success by the three services
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Nothing stops us from flying missions close to the border to "monitor" the situation. Constant buzzing activity of our fighters near the border aka how China does vis a vis Taiwan is the need of the hour. Pakistan simply cannot afford the fuel or spares to make this happen. Those billion or two from IMF can be simply expended in the next six or so months just by keeping the tensions simmering. These amounts though significant are peanuts for us.
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Instead of declaring Pakistan as a Terrorist state, we should declare them as a Begger state.
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US just sided with Pakistan, which has always sought to internationalize the issue.
Trump’s latest post on India-Pakistan: “I will work with you both to see if "1000 Years yada yada …a solution can be arrived at concerning Kashmir.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqpIYA1bkAA ... ame=medium
Interesting : US tells UK that it supports direct dialogue between India, Pakistan (sort of contradicting trum)
US State Dept release-:

Trump’s latest post on India-Pakistan: “I will work with you both to see if "1000 Years yada yada …a solution can be arrived at concerning Kashmir.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqpIYA1bkAA ... ame=medium
Interesting : US tells UK that it supports direct dialogue between India, Pakistan (sort of contradicting trum)
US State Dept release-:
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In the international context beyond the middle east and Europe, Trump is irrelevant. For Europe and, to a lesser extent, the Middle East, his relevance is akin to a walrus in a Swarovski store... mostly asleep, but when he moves, expensive stuff breaks badly.
For the rest of us "s-hole countries" that he has no clue about, it's like the senile uncle at the family dinner. Smile and nod politely at his old stories, and forget everything he said. And if he c**ps his pants, have the nephew who's trying to gain his inheritance take him to the loo to wipe him up while everyone gets back to an actual conversation.
For the rest of us "s-hole countries" that he has no clue about, it's like the senile uncle at the family dinner. Smile and nod politely at his old stories, and forget everything he said. And if he c**ps his pants, have the nephew who's trying to gain his inheritance take him to the loo to wipe him up while everyone gets back to an actual conversation.
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Quite a climb down [ or up ! ] from I don't care .. orange man is relevant but unpredictable and unreliableAmber G. wrote: ↑12 May 2025 10:36 US just sided with Pakistan, which has always sought to internationalize the issue.
Trump’s latest post on India-Pakistan: “I will work with you both to see if "1000 Years yada yada …a solution can be arrived at concerning Kashmir.”
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqpIYA1bkAA ... ame=medium[/img
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k prasad wrote: ↑12 May 2025 10:42 In the international context beyond the middle east and Europe, Trump is irrelevant. For Europe and, to a lesser extent, the Middle East, his relevance is akin to a walrus in a Swarovski store... mostly asleep, but when he moves, expensive stuff breaks badly.
For the rest of us "s-hole countries" that he has no clue about, it's like the senile uncle at the family dinner. Smile and nod politely at his old stories, and forget everything he said. And if he c**ps his pants, have the nephew who's trying to gain his inheritance take him to the loo to wipe him up while everyone gets back to an actual conversation.

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Sporrym if already posted...
Is it difficult to transport and mount BrahMos? Can it be intercepted?
"It's a supersonic missile. It cannot be intercepted by any known air defence system; A cruise missile follows a very difficult technology and we are first in the world to master this," Former DRDO DG and CEO & MD of BrahMos Aerospace, Dr Sudhir Kumar Mishra shares his inputs
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Is it difficult to transport and mount BrahMos? Can it be intercepted?
"It's a supersonic missile. It cannot be intercepted by any known air defence system; A cruise missile follows a very difficult technology and we are first in the world to master this," Former DRDO DG and CEO & MD of BrahMos Aerospace, Dr Sudhir Kumar Mishra shares his inputs
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BTW it is important to think about protecting the secrecy of many of these unique systems. We need to think about watered down "export" versions in the future.Amber G. wrote: ↑12 May 2025 10:51 Sporrym if already posted...
Is it difficult to transport and mount BrahMos? Can it be intercepted?
"It's a supersonic missile. It cannot be intercepted by any known air defence system; A cruise missile follows a very difficult technology and we are first in the world to master this," Former DRDO DG and CEO & MD of BrahMos Aerospace, Dr Sudhir Kumar Mishra shares his inputs
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Satellite images of Pakistani military sites destroyed by India after Pakistani attack last week:
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Because History should not forget, India was at the gates of Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi last week.
(HT WION)
Jacobabad Airfield:




(note: Radar site gone)




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Because History should not forget, India was at the gates of Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi last week.
(HT WION)
Jacobabad Airfield:
(note: Radar site gone)
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Problem with Trump is he is egoistic and likes to be the attention of Cameras. The more we treat him with respect, the more he will be equating us with Pakistan and trying to gain media space to prove to the world he is the Supreme Leader while damaging our reputation and security and our interests.
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One key takeaway from this limited war - we need to develop our information warfare capacity. We are in multi-dimensional warfare - Earlier control over information did not matter as information flow was slow and often it was too late to matter real-time in ongoing operation. However, in age of fast social media and AI - there are immense possibility to develop both offensive and defensive capability. Not taking way from our hard power - we did better than earlier events - but we need to do better.
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@ The DGMOs press conference earlier.
DGAO refused to specify what Gen aircraft, but explicitly stated "high-tech" so as not to be misrepresented (in his own words).
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Here is a funny lol and a lesson to everyone who thinks "Pakistan's PR is so much better saar. Indian PR bad saar. Because every word is triple checked by a MEA babu and signed in triplicate. Look at the suave media friendly briefing of ISPR saar. Their musharrafs are so tight"
Our diplomat showed a picture and accused that a terrorist "Rauf" was leading funerals and pak army was attending.

To which DG ISPR said in a news conference "that is not Abdul Rauf Azhar who Yindia alleged to be Jaish commander!!! Yindoos are doing false propaganda!!! This was Hafiz Abdur Rauf!! A family man who is innocent!!
To drive the point home, DG ISPR flashed the national registration details of the innocent Hafiz Abdur Rauf.

Turns out Hafiz Abdur Rauf is a different Jaish terrorist under international terror sanctions and the details match perfectly

https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/ ... x?id=12329
Our diplomat showed a picture and accused that a terrorist "Rauf" was leading funerals and pak army was attending.

To which DG ISPR said in a news conference "that is not Abdul Rauf Azhar who Yindia alleged to be Jaish commander!!! Yindoos are doing false propaganda!!! This was Hafiz Abdur Rauf!! A family man who is innocent!!
To drive the point home, DG ISPR flashed the national registration details of the innocent Hafiz Abdur Rauf.

Turns out Hafiz Abdur Rauf is a different Jaish terrorist under international terror sanctions and the details match perfectly



https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/ ... x?id=12329
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As Doc Shiv Ji, wreckage of Paki Mirage 3/5 possibly from POK, looks like the last sorties of the ROSE upgraded Mirages of the PAF.
https://x.com/shiv_cybersurg/status/1921743234134638839
https://x.com/shiv_cybersurg/status/1921743234134638839
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IAF DGMO used the word "High Tech" ACs but he did not mention if it was J10 or F16 or something else.
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https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1921761523606708568
@mountain_rats
Uranium fas fantastic!

https://x.com/sanjeev__kapoor/status/19 ... 2875337036
@sanjeev__kapoor
"India has arrived" as a rising military heavyweight & the world is recognising it.
In just 4 days, India delivered a calculated & formidable military response to Pakistan. Reasons- precision airstrikes using indegenious or locally modified wpns, missile systems like BrahMos with CEP of 1 mtr using of #ISRO NAVIC , homemade & marked digital maps, intelligent upgrades of old eqpt (AD guns, R 73s etc), efficient AkashTeer AD system developed by #DRDO & #BEL, Indian communication grids, etc...the list is long.
Air Power classes in coming decades will have in syllabus the air ops executed by @IAF_MCC on 10 May 25, where 11 front line Pak airfields were neutralitised with utmost precision in flat 90 mins using indegenious NAVIC & modified weapons. #IndiaPakistanWar2025. @narendramodi
https://x.com/ShefVaidya/status/1921581977385463951
@ShefVaidya
Now that Bharat has decisively shown that it has won on the enemy front via the DGMO presser, it is time for the @narendramodi administration to come down hard on the internal 0.5 front that always colludes with the enemy. They have names and faces, and over the last three days, we have known who they are. Drain the swamp at least NOW!
@mountain_rats
Uranium fas fantastic!
https://x.com/sanjeev__kapoor/status/19 ... 2875337036
@sanjeev__kapoor
"India has arrived" as a rising military heavyweight & the world is recognising it.
In just 4 days, India delivered a calculated & formidable military response to Pakistan. Reasons- precision airstrikes using indegenious or locally modified wpns, missile systems like BrahMos with CEP of 1 mtr using of #ISRO NAVIC , homemade & marked digital maps, intelligent upgrades of old eqpt (AD guns, R 73s etc), efficient AkashTeer AD system developed by #DRDO & #BEL, Indian communication grids, etc...the list is long.
Air Power classes in coming decades will have in syllabus the air ops executed by @IAF_MCC on 10 May 25, where 11 front line Pak airfields were neutralitised with utmost precision in flat 90 mins using indegenious NAVIC & modified weapons. #IndiaPakistanWar2025. @narendramodi
https://x.com/ShefVaidya/status/1921581977385463951
@ShefVaidya
Now that Bharat has decisively shown that it has won on the enemy front via the DGMO presser, it is time for the @narendramodi administration to come down hard on the internal 0.5 front that always colludes with the enemy. They have names and faces, and over the last three days, we have known who they are. Drain the swamp at least NOW!
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The SATNAV systems used by India to guide their missiles and aircraft was not the GPS or the GLONAS.
It is an Indian developed satellite based nav system called the NAVIK in which the Indian made satellites have all been launched by ISRO.
we had a bitter experience during kargil when the americans shut off their GPS systems over kashmir/kargil making navigation extremely difficult for IAF fighter aircraft and some of the IA's artillery systems
India has learned from amriki perfidy, post kargil
It is an Indian developed satellite based nav system called the NAVIK in which the Indian made satellites have all been launched by ISRO.
we had a bitter experience during kargil when the americans shut off their GPS systems over kashmir/kargil making navigation extremely difficult for IAF fighter aircraft and some of the IA's artillery systems
India has learned from amriki perfidy, post kargil
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I think some Media Marketing is going on here, clearly Indian Military spokespersons have said Brahmos has been used, as per this only Hammer and Scalp have been used, but we have used a wide spectrum of weapons, IAF has not yet stated in Public domain what weapon Vs Target. So this is just speculation.
And I hope the PA and PAF really believe all this and prepare only for Rafale Hammer and Scalp.
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We are trying to get operational information when there is an ongoing operation. Lets us wait a bit and more accurate information will come. DGMOs never mentioned any weapons usage and aptly so. Reporters are speculating to fill the news cycle. I don't think they have some inside secret information.
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^^^
Foreign defense manufacturers promote heavily after any war to state “combat-proven” et al.
It remains to be seen how much Indian armed services and the Indian media promote indigenous weapons in the days to come.
Think export boon
Foreign defense manufacturers promote heavily after any war to state “combat-proven” et al.
It remains to be seen how much Indian armed services and the Indian media promote indigenous weapons in the days to come.
Think export boon
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Bakwaas only but couldn’t resist
If there are losses then indeed GoI Gandhian principles are to blame!
1. In case you are painted by PAF , eject immediately and give them the satisfaction of a hit
2. In case you are targeted by SAMs meditate for world peace by chanting for 5 minutes
3. In case you see a juicy military target remember Ahimsa Parmo Deva and drop flares so that they can admire your virtue
4. If your missile doesn’t hit target, land at the nearest enemy airbase and remind them of bhaichara
5. Of course ideally do your combat from your own airbase, to show the enemy and the world that you won’t cross multiple Lakshman rekhas

If there are losses then indeed GoI Gandhian principles are to blame!
1. In case you are painted by PAF , eject immediately and give them the satisfaction of a hit
2. In case you are targeted by SAMs meditate for world peace by chanting for 5 minutes
3. In case you see a juicy military target remember Ahimsa Parmo Deva and drop flares so that they can admire your virtue
4. If your missile doesn’t hit target, land at the nearest enemy airbase and remind them of bhaichara
5. Of course ideally do your combat from your own airbase, to show the enemy and the world that you won’t cross multiple Lakshman rekhas
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People with such major character flaws can be manipulated. Our leaders are way more subtle than the Pakis while doing it.uddu wrote: ↑12 May 2025 11:08 Problem with Trump is he is egoistic and likes to be the attention of Cameras. The more we treat him with respect, the more he will be equating us with Pakistan and trying to gain media space to prove to the world he is the Supreme Leader while damaging our reputation and security and our interests.
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#sindoor Pakistan ban gaya tandoor.
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Give the man $400 million luxury jet like the QatarisCyrano wrote: ↑12 May 2025 12:34People with such major character flaws can be manipulated. Our leaders are way more subtle than the Pakis while doing it.uddu wrote: ↑12 May 2025 11:08 Problem with Trump is he is egoistic and likes to be the attention of Cameras. The more we treat him with respect, the more he will be equating us with Pakistan and trying to gain media space to prove to the world he is the Supreme Leader while damaging our reputation and security and our interests.
