Understanding the US - Again

[A_Gupta]

American commentary:
Modi Beats Trump at his own Game and Donald ain't happy
https://youtu.be/jPys4XDdm7g?si=eEx2Q9s9zyl1Ttwb

Sorry Donald but the world wants Modism and less drama A leader that doesn't have to pat himself on the back every time he does something that he's supposed to do You know Modi is more focused on his people than making the front page When you lead people into success the fame finds you. Trump is spending more time running towards the fame, too much time looking at himself in the mirror and not outside the window at the people who elected him. Modi concentrates on the people in India...

[Manish_P]

... to invite Asim Munir to the White House, and give Hafiz Muhammad Saeed the Presidential Medal of Honor? Won't that "give them a chance" ?

Pakistan, can't forget them. Pakistanis are brilliant people. They make incredible products. - -U.S. President Trump

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TIMES OF INDIA: Two former jihadist operatives from the US, one of whom allegedly even attended Lashkar-e-Taiba’s training camp in Pakistan in 2000, and engaged in terrorist activities in Kashmir, including firing at Indian positions, have been appointed by the Trump regime to the White House Advisory Board of Lay Leaders.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 242294.cms

[A_Gupta]

Can things get any crazier?

[A_Gupta]

Pakistan strikes deal with Trump family-backed crypto venture

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ma ... aign=cppst

[A_Gupta]

White House website:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st ... ommission/

Today, President Donald Trump has designated the following individuals to serve on the advisory boards of the Religious Liberty Commission. On May 1st, the President signed an Executive Order establishing the Religious Liberty Commission. He designated Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick as chair and Dr. Ben Carson as vice chair, as well as 11 other commission members. Today, he has designated individuals to serve on the three advisory boards comprised of religious leaders, legal experts, and lay advisors, respectively.

Ismail Royer. Ismail Royer serves as Director of the Islam and Religious Freedom Action Team for the Religious Freedom Institute. Since converting to Islam in 1992, he has studied religious sciences with traditional Islamic scholars and spent over a decade working at non-profit Islamic organizations. Royer has worked with nonprofits to promote peace between faiths. His writing has appeared in multiple publications and he co-authored an article on Islam on Religious Violence Today: Faith and Conflict in the Modern World.

What they omitted, April 9, 2004:
https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/ ... rm_225.htm

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Attorney General John Ashcroft, Assistant Attorney General Christopher A. Wray of the Criminal Division, and U.S. Attorney Paul J. McNulty of the Eastern District of Virginia announced that Randall Todd Royer and Ibrahim Ahmed Al-Hamdi were sentenced today by U.S. District Court Judge Leonie Brinkema for their convictions on charges stemming from their participation in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia.

Royer, 31, pled guilty in January 2004 to a two-count criminal information charging him with aiding and abetting the use and discharge of a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence, and with aiding and abetting the carrying of an explosive during the commission of a felony. In his plea agreement, Royer admitted to aiding and abetting co-defendants Masoud Khan, Yong Ki Kwon, Muhammed Aatique and Khwaja Mahmoud Hasan in gaining entry to a terrorist training camp in Pakistan operated by Lashkar-e-Taiba, where they trained in the use of various weapons. Royer also admitted to helping co-defendant Ibrahim Ahmed Al-Hamdi gain entry to the Lashkar-e-Taiba camp, where Al-Hamdi received training in the use of a rocket-propelled grenade in furtherance of a conspiracy to conduct military operations against India.

Royer acknowledged that he committed his offenses to help other jihadists gain entry to the Lashkar-e-Taiba training camp following a meeting on Sept. 16, 2001, at which an unindicted conspirator said that the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, would be used as an excuse to trigger a global war against Islam, and that the time had come for them to go abroad and, if possible, join the mujahideen. Three other individuals attending that meeting, Yong Kwon, Muhammed Aatique, and Khwaja Hasan - all of whom pled guilty - stated that they went to the Lashkar-e-Taiba camp to obtain combat training for the purpose engaging in violent jihad in Afghanistan against the American troops that they expected would soon invade that country.

Royer was sentenced today to 20 years in prison. Judge Brinkema sentenced him to serve 10 years in prison on both counts, and the sentences are to run consecutively. In addition, he was sentenced to three years of supervised release.

[A_Gupta]

Ismail Royer, 2023:
https://www.meforum.org/ismail-royer-jo ... o-defender

On His Relationship with Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET)

I liked the folks in LET. I had been very opposed to Bin Laden. I thought Al Qaeda was a group of deviants. I had been recommended to go to LET and told it was not an extremist group, that they leaned toward the imam of Saudi Arabia. They also told me that they did not attack civilians. I thought that this was a group that was good, that was on the right path. I would have considered myself Salafi at the time.

On Recruiting for LET

I encouraged Muslims at the mosque to go to LET and train with them [in Kashmir]. The training was not really very serious, it was more like tourism. It was more like, “Here, we’ll let you shoot a gun and we’ll let you traipse around the mountains and then go back home.” It was almost a form of a promotion. What they were really trying to do was to make contacts in the West or from the Arab or Gulf countries. Someone would go there, get “trained,” and then go back home. Then LET would be able to hit them up for donations. [...] That’s really what they wanted — Western connections to extend their network and their reach. You could go there and get more high-level training if they thought you could be a fighter. Then they would send you to fight against the Indian police or military in Kashmir.

[A_Gupta]

Ismail Royer might be reformed, if you believe this interview.
https://islamism.news/uncategorized/ism ... ilization/

Me, I do not see any regret for civilians killed. It is all just "I was foolish", "I was naive", or "I gave fellow Muslims bad advice". The collateral damage in his quest, he does not acknowledge in the least bit.

[VinodTK]

Cross Posting

The Hill

Trump just undermined America’s strategic partnership with India

On May 7, India launched a calibrated military campaign against Pakistan in response to a brutal terrorist attack that had killed 26 civilians in Indian-administered Kashmir. Islamist gunmen had deliberately targeted Hindu tourists, exemplifying the persistent cross-border terrorism that India has long endured.

Yet few anticipated that the decisive external actor to intervene, President Trump, would seek not to de-escalate tensions impartially, but to tilt the scales in favor of the state sponsor of terror.

Pakistan’s military has enabled terrorist groups to operate from its soil for decades. Its terrorist proxies have carried out attacks in India with the support — tacit or overt — of Pakistan’s army, which has ruled the country directly or indirectly since its founding in 1947.
But this time, when India hit back with precision and restraint, it wasn’t Pakistan that reversed the tide of battle. It was Washington.

The Trump administration stepped in at a pivotal moment, using coercive leverage to compel India to cease its operation prematurely. In doing so, Trump not only spared Pakistan the consequences of its actions but also damaged the foundation of U.S.-India strategic trust.

Trump has publicly boasted about his role. From Riyadh to Doha during his Middle East tour, he declared he had “brokered a historic ceasefire” between India and Pakistan. But behind that triumphant spin lies a less savory truth: The U.S. intervention was not about peace — it was about shielding a longtime “major non-NATO ally” from the fallout of its proxy warfare.
The Indian campaign lasted just three days, one of the shortest modern military operations, yet it achieved notable success. Indian forces degraded Pakistan’s air defenses and struck key air bases. In a display of technological prowess, both nations relied heavily on drones and precision missiles. But while Pakistan launched more projectiles, it failed to inflict meaningful damage on any Indian military installation.

India’s turning point came on the morning of May 10, when its military hit major Pakistani air bases, including Nur Khan — located near the army headquarters, the prime minister’s office and Pakistan’s nuclear command. At this point, India had seized the battlefield initiative.

Yet, just hours later, a ceasefire was accepted — under direct U.S. pressure, with Trump announcing it even before India or Pakistan. The ceasefire took effect at 17:00 Indian Standard Time that same day.

Trump later revealed that he had threatened trade sanctions to halt India’s advance. “If you don’t stop, we are not going to do any trade,” he said during a White House press conference. He reiterated in Saudi Arabia, “I used trade to a large extent to do it.”
If true, the U.S. leveraged economic blackmail — not diplomacy — to protect a state that exports terrorism. That raises a chilling question: If Washington can use trade threats to dictate India’s conduct in a military crisis, what’s to stop it from weaponizing defense supply chains during the next one?

India has steadily increased purchases of U.S. military hardware. But this episode confirmed India’s greatest fear: in a real conflict, these systems could become liabilities if Washington turns off the tap. No country’s national security should hinge on platforms dependent on another power’s political whims.

Two days into India’s military campaign, the International Monetary Fund — under strong American influence — approved a $2.4 billion bailout for Pakistan, offering a financial lifeline to a country teetering on the brink of default. The timing of the bailout was telling, rewarding the most persistent terror sponsor in South Asia even as its proxies triggered a military crisis.

The bailout signaled to the world that you can export jihadist terror and still enjoy Western protection — if you’re geopolitically useful enough.

In fact, Trump has shown an unsettling willingness to engage with actors whom most nations deem beyond the pale. On May 14, he met with Syria’s self-declared president Ahmad al-Sharaa — better known as Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, a U.S.- and U.N.-designated terrorist and a former leader of Syria’s al Qaeda affiliate.

Meanwhile, Trump has turned his sights toward Kashmir as a geopolitical bargaining chip. While remaining conspicuously silent on Pakistan’s role in exporting terrorism, he has proposed to mediate the Kashmir dispute, saying that both India and Pakistan are “great nations” that need help resolving it.

Such false equivalence — between the target of terror and its perpetrator — has justifiably infuriated both the Indian government and public. New Delhi has firmly rejected Trump’s mediation offers, underscoring that there can be no talks under the shadow of terror.

Kashmir is one of the world’s most complex territorial disputes. India controls 45 percent of the former princely state, Pakistan 35 percent and China the remaining 20 percent. Yet Trump, despite failing to resolve conflicts in Ukraine or Gaza, believes he can now “work to see if a solution can be arrived at concerning Kashmir.” In reality, Trump is playing into the hands of Pakistan, which has long weaponized the Kashmir issue to justify its “war of a thousand cuts” through terrorist proxies against India.

Even after bailing out Pakistan, Trump doubled down. On May 15, he rebuked Apple CEO Tim Cook for manufacturing iPhones in India, telling him, “I don’t want you building in India.” According to Trump, a chastened Cook promised to increase production in the U.S.

This pattern of behavior highlights the jarring truth that Trump’s America is not a reliable strategic partner for India. Paradoxically, India should be thankful for this wake-up call.

The U.S. likes to portray itself as India’s natural partner in the Indo-Pacific, a region that will determine the next world order. But trust in any partnership is forged during a crisis.
Trump may have forced India to pause its military campaign — but, in doing so, he accelerated the unraveling of trust between the world’s two largest democracies. That rupture, unless healed quickly, will not be easy to mend

[S_Madhukar]

If you hold a gun to Unkil’s head he will happily sacrifice India. He doesn’t understand us and thinks Bakis are more pliant Indians with similar food, culture etc. that are trigger happy and better Slave drivers like the Han. There is total elite capture and a rapacious mindset that land of Gandhi probably lacks, they were so much more useful under Churchill. But then life goes on and just like the French figure our own path

[vera_k]

This operation had clear pictures about high level Pak Army officers attending terrorist funerals. Given that, I'm coming around to the POV that the only reason that the US is unconcerned about terrorists gaining possession of nukes is that Pak nukes are either of US origin or under firm indisputable US control.

Nothing else makes sense given that Iraq was attacked again on the slightest suspicion of a WMD program. But happy to hear of alternative theories if one can be surmised.

[S_Madhukar]

Well Unkil now has Britshits and NaPakis as 2 territories or very large aircraft carriers with Nooks under Unkils watchful eyes, to keep an eye on other great powers in the region. Britshits have tech but no army, Napakis have no tech but have an army.

Iran must be wondering how come NaPakis get all the concessions while they can’t be allowed to have Nooks

[williams]

Well Unkil now has Britshits and NaPakis as 2 territories or very large aircraft carriers with Nooks under Unkils watchful eyes, to keep an eye on other great powers in the region. Britshits have tech but no army, Napakis have no tech but have an army.

Iran must be wondering how come NaPakis get all the concessions while they can’t be allowed to have Nooks

Pakis are beggars with no economy and no shame whatsoever. Pakis are ready to sell/rent anything including their own people as cannon fodder for anybody. Iranians have some self respect and oil to make some money. Plus there is strong anti-iranian sentiment with the Jewish lobby in US Admin.

[bala]

Pak nukes are either of US origin or under firm indisputable US control.

Tom Cooper in youtube.com/watch?v=RxFYal-2JeI clearly states that he has talked with US personnel guarding the "so called nukes" in Pak land. This shit is getting to be more incredible day by day. How come another country is guarding Pak land nukes. Some believed that is not possible. This con job is getting bizzare. Why would US guard nukes for another country? I am not believing any of this. The only plausible answer is US spent nuke fuel has been dumped in Pak land considering all the hue and cry about nuclear waste in US. Pak land nuke is just a con job manufactured by China and US to deter India. India perhaps knows about this con job. Oh BTW Tom mentions that Qatar is footing the bill for Pak land expenses including the recent World Bank funding of Billions or more. Qatar fighter aircrafts are manned by Pak land and Qatar funds all crazies of extreme jihad. Recent visit by DJT to Qatar explains why DJT got in the middle of Pak land and India conflict.

[chetak]

Former US President Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive' prostate cancer




https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former ... 025-05-18/

[VinodTK]

^^^ This news was purposely releases to hide news about his mental / cognitive decline when he was president. His prostate cancer is old news.

[Vayutuvan]

^ Not necessarily. It is quote possible that President Biden was not tested for PSA levels after 2014. The recommendation is that one doesn't have to test after 70 years of age.

That said, after he became POTUS, arguably he was the most important person in the world (having access to nuclear football 24x7), they should have had extra and thorough health checks for him and they would have had.

So it is a 50-50 issue. Democrats obviously are arguing that there was no cover up regarding the prostate cancer.
Mental decline was covered up almost surely.

[vera_k]

Ironic if it turns out to come down to the infamous government death panels for refusing to pay for the PSA test. Should have gotten tested when visiting India, like the rest of us

[Vayutuvan]

Ironic if it turns out to come down to the infamous government death panels for refusing to pay for the PSA test. Should have gotten tested when visiting India, like the rest of us

It would be ironic indeed. But don't the congress critters have platinum level health plans which are paid by the taxpayers? I would presume the same for POTUS+family, VPOTUS+family, and cabinet members and their families.

DC and surrounding VA/MD counties are some of the most expensive real estate markets in the US.

[chetak]

^ Not necessarily. It is quote possible that President Biden was not tested for PSA levels after 2014. The recommendation is that one doesn't have to test after 70 years of age.

That said, after he became POTUS, arguably he was the most important person in the world (having access to nuclear football 24x7) they should have had extra and through health checks for him and they would have had.

So it is a 50-50 issue. Democrats obviously are arguing that there was no cover up regarding the prostate cancer.

Mental decline almost surely was covered up.

Vayutuvan ji,


This is the US president that one is talking about.


There is no bleddy way that the doddering clown would not have been tested for any and everything under the sun


It is just not possible that his panel of doctors would have missed this. The US is a crazy country as far as litigations go, especially concerning medical liabilities. The medical panel would have been jointly and severally liable legally speaking. Biden would have had no choice in the matter. His butt was certified US govt property from the minute he became the POTUS.


In the end, it all comes down to the credibility of the deep state and the evil cabal which managed and ran him all those years, and they have no credibility worth talking about.


Don't believe otherwise, no matter what a bunch of popes, santa and all his helpers, and the ghoul of kolkata, all put together might say.

[chetak]

Ironic if it turns out to come down to the infamous government death panels for refusing to pay for the PSA test. Should have gotten tested when visiting India, like the rest of us

vera_k ji,


maybe fauci sent off the samples to an el cheapo cheeni lab where he was assured a hefty kickback

[chetak]

Ironic if it turns out to come down to the infamous government death panels for refusing to pay for the PSA test. Should have gotten tested when visiting India, like the rest of us

It would be ironic indeed. But don't the congress critters have platinum level health plans which are paid by the taxpayers? I would presume the same for POTUS+family, VPOTUS+family, and cabinet members and their families.

DC and surrounding VA/MD counties are some of the most expensive real estate markets in the US.

Vayutuvan ji,



If they were so careful about his busted brain, wouldn't one think that they would be as careful about his busted butt

Amazing how misinformed liberals are

No, questions at press conference are not "unpredictable."

Here is President Biden holding notes in his hands while addressing press conference ... the order of the questions, the question, the reporter ... it is all known in advance.

[Vayutuvan]

@chetak gaaru, all the democrat apologists in BRF are MIA in this thread. So I decided to do their job for them. As a favor.

[SRajesh]

Deansji
A question and an observations; and i wanted to check with you if this rings any bell.
Observation: DJT is not as dumb as people especially the Dumbocrats and the looney leftys wants us to believe. There seem to be method to his madness.
And now the question:
Is he internationally trying to bring down BRICS nations one by one??
Because if you remember one os his first utterances was to warn BRICS about currency and stop flirting with the idea of replacing the mighty dollar.

[SRajesh]

What is US and DJT Plan??
They have reclaibrated the relationship with Pakistan ?? is this at the cost of Indian relationship
If not why did DJT jump the gun to announce his "Black Hand" in achieving or bringing about Ceasefire.
He has not stopped repeating that.
What have the Jihadis promised him??
Are going to handover Balochistan Mineral Deal to Unkil at the cost of antagonising Chin Masters!!
Is this something like what DJT has achieved in Ukraine and kind of telling Putin any attack on Pukraine is an attack on US citizen!!
Meaning Jihadis think that we will back off if Unkil has a hand in the Baluchistan Mineral deal.!! Hmm as usual as they playing double game with Unkil and US being the stupid Gora have fallen for that trap yet again!!
Why I am saying this? Chin Master have not commented much about DJT largesse nor have requested Munir or Orange seller to report for some 'Field Mashallah' Danda to be lubed and inserted!!. Maybe the jihadis have promised them something else or they are in cahoots with fooling Unkil.
And the same time both Chin and Jihadis are making overtures to Talibunies about the benefits of CPEC and and inviting them to be a part of this grand scam!!
Stepping away from Af-Pak why is DJT making Trillion dollar deals with Qataris at the cost of upsetting the KSA!!
KSA and MBS hate the Qataris
DJT and KSA deal is not worth even a third of Qatari deal!! what gives.
Now Qataris/Turkiye and the Eyeranians are somehow trying to wrest the control of Ummah from the custodian of the Mosque!!
Furthermore this will hit the Middle Eastern corridor that India/KSA/Isreal are interested in.
Qataris have been very smart in investing in the English language Media house, covertly pumping in millions to Western Universities and think tanks (if some reports are to be believed) unlike the KSA with their Osama tag which is still a difficult task for MBS to remove (inspite of his quite dramatic changes in rules Brought about).
And going on to the EU:
DJT seems to trying his best to emasculate the EU shitheads using Pukraine and Putin!!
Furthermore he seems to targetting French and their defence deals (read rafale loss and Ukus Pocus deal to Aussies which they have now realised what a ride they are being taken to)
Now to the BRICS:
DJT has already targetted China but the tariff seems to have backfired big time.
He is needling India with all sorts of verbal diarrhoea!!
Recently targetted South Africa.
Putin is already in the doghouse!!
Probably leaving Brazil for some specail treatment!!
One of first utterances was to warn BRICS about moving away from dollar deal
And lastly Kanneda:
who knows what referendum will bring and how the borders will be re adjusted!!
Without sending out US soldiers he seems to be creating problems all around the world
Interesting times ahead.

[A_Gupta]

Deansji
A question and an observations; and i wanted to check with you if this rings any bell.
Observation: DJT is not as dumb as people especially the Dumbocrats and the looney leftys wants us to believe. There seem to be method to his madness.
And now the question:
Is he internationally trying to bring down BRICS nations one by one??
Because if you remember one os his first utterances was to warn BRICS about currency and stop flirting with the idea of replacing the mighty dollar.

It is very possible that DJT Is trying to bring down BRICS.
However, US current financial and economic trajectory will make that effort fail.
Basically, the US needs to cut spending and raises revenues, otherwise, it is getting into an unsustainable situation with its national debt.
It borrowed a lot of money when borrowing was cheap, and now that this has to be rolled over, the cost of borrowing is high, and that creates a vicious spiral. Or the rest of the world has the same faith in the US as it had ten years ago, and consents to lending the US money at low cost (which, with DJT at the helm, is not going to happen. Leave aside China, even US allies like Japan have their doubts about holding US Treasury bonds.)

The numbers are laid out here and explained in very simple language:
USA Bond Crisis Deepens
https://youtu.be/CqYen0HTiZo?si=mLUKi5HHFyHz8LoC

[Vayutuvan]

And now the question:
Is he internationally trying to bring down BRICS nations one by one??

(Not deans but)

Excellent observation. Yesterday he conducted an inquisition of Ramphosa of SA in The Oval Office in the full glare of the media. Next up Brazil. He alienated RICS by now. Maybe KSA visit and Qatari gift gave him the cajones.

[Vayutuvan]

Basically, the US needs to cut spending and raises revenues, otherwise, it is getting into an unsustainable situation with its national debt.

Throughout Biden years, we were told by all these "very decent" Democrat (actually "oh so democratic" DNC) apologists that green new deal was sustainable, unrestricted Illegal immigration was sustainable, sanctuary cities were sustainable, giving USD 300 B to Ukraine is sustainable, giving big tax credits for EVs is sustainable, one way free trade is sustainable, Trudeau has great intellect and loved in Canada, Biden was sharp as a tack, KD Harris was POTUS material, and on and on.

Why would anybody believe these folks now that they have been proved wrong on every important issue?!!!

[A_Gupta]

Not here to argue American politics. The numbers are stark. It is a simple fact that your borrowing costs are lower if your lenders trust you. Just as the world lost faith in China in their supply chains post-COVID, the world is losing faith in the US as a bedrock of stability. Maybe if some trade deals are done and things settle down, there will be improvement.

https://asiatimes.com/2025/04/polls-sho ... -in-trump/

...
when asked if Taiwan could still depend on the US, 57.2% of Taiwanese respondents said they felt that the US was no longer dependable under Trump, while only 31.4% felt that it was dependable.

Foundation chairman Michael You Ying-lung, quoted by the South China Morning Post, said, “Because of Trump’s actions, particularly the shock of the new tariffs, the majority of Taiwanese have lost confidence in the US…. when 57% say the US is no longer reliable, that’s not just a statistical shift – it could mark a turning point in public opinion.”

“Of course,” he added, “it could also be a temporary emotional reaction. It depends on how Trump’s Taiwan policy evolves from here.”

The BRF pages are testament to a great loss of goodwill in India towards the US following Op Sindoor.

https://www.idnfinancials.com/news/5394 ... s-is-japan

JAKARTA – Japan has emerged as one of the parties selling over $20 billion in US government bonds during the first two weeks of April 2025, following the announcement of tariff hikes by former US President Donald Trump.

As reported by Financial Times on Tuesday (April 22), preliminary data from Japan’s Ministry of Finance recorded long-term foreign bond sales worth $17.5 billion in the week ending April 4, 2025, along with an additional $3.6 billion the following week.

[Vayutuvan]

Oh forgot one more denial by these "very decent" DNC apologists. They kept proclaiming loudly that "Deep State is a QAnon CT".

Now we know from Jake Tapper et al's book "Original Sin" that five from the inner circle were running the country.
We can put the faces to those the ten heads of Deep State Ravana.

GQ 2021: https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/ ... ner-circle

[Vayutuvan]

Not here to argue American politics.
...
The BRF pages are testament to a great loss of goodwill in India towards the US following Op Sindoor.
...

kibitz from me: Instead of preaching to the choir, editing the following Wikipedia page would be far more productive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2025 ... it_request

Code: Select all

Consider including the information as per Talk:2025_India–Pakistan_conflict/Archive_6#Trump's_new_statements & https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/in-qatar-trump-once-again-claims-he-helped-settle-tensions-between-india-and-pakistan/article69579926.ece --- I just wikify (talk) 04:02, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

    There is nothing to change per that discussion. Orientls (talk)
    
        I would like for the wordings `"…And by the way, I don't want to say I did, but I sure as hell helped settle the problem
        between Pakistan and India last week, which was getting more and more hostile,” he said while addressing U.S. military
        personnel at al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar.` to be added as per 
        https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/... I just wikify (talk) 04:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
        
              Why do we need to know what he claims? Slatersteven (talk) 10:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
              
                  The 2025 India–Pakistan conflict#International section mentions the below -
                  United States: President Donald Trump remarked that "It's a shame" and said "I just hope it ends very quickly." US Secretary
                  of State Marco Rubio spoke to the national security advisers from India and Pakistan and urged both to keep lines of 
                  communication open and avoid escalation. Vice President JD Vance said that, a potential war between India and Pakistan 
                  is "none of our business." Furthermore, he said that, "We want this thing to de-escalate as quickly as possible. 
                  This is one more thing he has said and should therefore be added in the same section. And in other places where
                  Trump's statements have been mentioned. Essentially he has watered down his own 
                  contribution into the ceasefire. I just wikify (talk) 04:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
                  
			Today, TOI reported "US President Donald Trump has again said that he played a role in helping India and Pakistan stop hostilities, 
			claiming the understanding came through trade talks that helped ease tensions between the two countries."[38] Your concern that
			he has watered down his statement (according to TOI) is no longer valid. Orientls (talk) 05:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
			
				Isn't TOI Godi media? I am not sure why it is being quoted since we have discussed avoiding Godi media if better sources 
				are available. I just wikify (talk) 06:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
				
					You cited TOI in the last discussion.[39] Here you cited The Hindu above and it has also reported hours ago that 
					Trump has once again claimed the credit.[40] It has superseded the 6 days old report you are 
					using. Orientls (talk) 07:25, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

It would be advantageous to dig into all the articles started and edited by this Orientls wikipedia editor.

[Vayutuvan]

This post gives a link to Wikipedia page and a small excerpt to show the dangers of depending on one media outlet or the other in the US to do the job that our Indian media has to do. Also what our weakness is when it comes to put forth GoI's point of view to common folks in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeidasTouch

In March 2025, Media Matters identified MeidasTouch as the 4th most popular progressive online show across the most popular streaming and social media platforms, with 6.4 million total viewers.[56] That month, John Ross and Nathan J. Robinson, writing in Current Affairs, unfavorably compared the podcast to The Joe Rogan Experience and said, "Even though it is targeted at viewers who think Trump is dumb, the content is remarkably shallow, by which we mean that it doesn’t dive seriously into topics like health care, criminal punishment, foreign policy, and inequality. It’s the National Enquirer for Trump-haters." They also criticized MeidasTouch's lack of coverage of environmental issues and the Gaza war.

Nathan J. Robinson is the EiC of Current Affairs which is an out and out left wing progressive magazine.

(this is apropos this post in viewtopic.php?p=2649580#p2649580)

[A_Gupta]

...
Observation: DJT is not as dumb as people especially the Dumbocrats and the looney leftys wants us to believe. There seem to be method to his madness.
...
What is US and DJT Plan??
....
Recently targetted South Africa.

Trump’s image of dead ‘white farmers’ came from Congo, not South Africa
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/africa/s ... intl-latam

[A_Gupta]

The US govt terminates Harvard's visa program (i.e., no students from abroad). Existing international students must transfer or leave the US.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harvar ... p-noem-dhs

[Amber G.]

...
Observation: DJT is not as dumb as people especially the Dumbocrats and the looney leftys wants us to believe. There seem to be method to his madness.
...
What is US and DJT Plan??
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Recently targetted South Africa.

Trump’s image of dead ‘white farmers’ came from Congo, not South Africa
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/africa/s ... intl-latam

Also: The Facebook account Trump shared with South Africa's president as "proof" of a genocide against white South Africans belonged to a fringe account that frequently posts racist imagery and pushes flat Earth conspiracies...

[Vayutuvan]

The US govt terminates Harvard's visa program (i.e., no students from abroad). Existing international students must transfer or leave the US.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harvar ... p-noem-dhs

Federal judge granted a restraining order staying Trump from acting.

[pravula]

The US govt terminates Harvard's visa program (i.e., no students from abroad). Existing international students must transfer or leave the US.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harvar ... p-noem-dhs

Federal judge granted a restraining order staying Trump from acting.

That was expected. There would be irreparable harm to students otherwise, while the lawsuit moves through its paces.

[A_Gupta]

The media projects that the retail price of a current $1,200 iPhone would be anywhere from $2000 to $3500 if made in America. Assuming the lower figure ($2000) to be conservative, Trump must put a 67% tariff on iPhones to make it cheaper to build in American than to import. At 25%, Apple will eat some of it in a reduced profit margin and the American consumer the rest.

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In 2023, Apple sold 231.3 million iPhones globally. The Americas, including the US, accounted for 98.1 million of these sales, followed by Europe with 56.8 million.
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Apple will want to diversify its supply chain regardless of Trump. IMO, from the Apple point of view, it would be bad to put all of its eggs in any one basket. Therefore it will keep some manufacturing in China (or move to Vietnam or something. I doubt it will ever by 100% in India).

The question is which manufacturing location sends to which retail sales location. IMO, there is plenty of world market to be supplied by India even if Indian-made iPhones are not viable in the US compared to made-in-China-or-elsewhere based on Trump's tariffs and trade deals.

[Vayutuvan]

Is a mobile phone, any mobile phone, worth the price? Does it provide as much utility as a phone from the same manufacturer a couple of generations ago? I don't see any value in being able to look at throw-away pictures/TikTok videos in very high resolution with the attendant increase in storage requirements on the device itself and in the cloud later on. Higher resolution stresses the communication network as well.
A sizeable number of the 400+ million mobile users in India use these advanced phones for WA, FB, Tik Tok, and X stuff. A massive amount of productivity hit.

[Vayutuvan]

Federal judge granted a restraining order staying Trump from acting.

That was expected. There would be irreparable harm to students otherwise, while the lawsuit moves through its paces.

Yes. My point is that those who think that OCD posting of reporting on every small event that is taking place would help understand the US better is totally misguided.

[Vayutuvan]

Everyone of us is capable of finding these news items on our own. My request to those BRF members is to consolidate all the reports into one weekly post and put commentary connecting all of them into a coherent convincing narrative (if that is their goal).