Israel-Hezbollah-Iran War

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deWalker wrote: 22 Jun 2025 06:36 I wonder if the B2s went through Paki airspace. Would explain Trumps accommodating attitude toward the Failed Marshal last week. “Here puppy…good boy”. Guam and Diego Garcia were red herrings and Iran wasn’t expecting an attack from their East.
It doesn't matter which side the attack came from as Iran has no capability to stop this in the first place. Paki's job was to accommodate khan in case of any hiccups, like a malfunction, to probably stage assets to perform SAR missions if shit truly hit the fan.
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bala wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:47 This strike by the US must have many in the world terrified, especially China and Russia.
Not just them, but I think it's a message to every nation that is thinking about going against US interests, or trumps interests.
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Hope they flew in burkhas and had their hair covered so as not to excite the irgc, in keeping with the fearless leader's diktats

16 Israeli female pilots were in the skies over #eyeraaan — the same regime that spent years oppressing women.

Now the tables have turned, from 30,000 feet.

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Who was Saeed Izadi? Israeli airstrikes kill Iranian commander behind October 7 Hamas attack
The Israeli military said on Saturday that it had killed Saeed Izadi, a veteran commander in the overseas arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, in an attack inside an apartment in Iran's Qom province. Israel's Defense Minister Israel Katz in a statement said that Izadi was the leader of the Palestine Corps of the overseas arm, also known as Quds Force.
The Israeli military said on Saturday that it had killed Saeed Izadi, a veteran commander in the overseas arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, in an attack inside an apartment in Iran's Qom province. Israel's Defense Minister Israel Katz in a statement said that Izadi was the leader of the Palestine Corps of the overseas arm, also known as Quds Force.
During the Israel Palestine war, Saeed Izadi was also responsible for directing Hamas forces operating from Lebanon.

“Since then, he has been committed to rebuilding Hamas' military wing and ensuring that Hamas remains the controlling authority in Gaza,” the IDF said in the statement.

Izadi maintained direct contact with Palestinian terror organisations in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, the Israeli military claimed.
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cross posting from Terroristan:
Kairana and Fordow!!
Do you see the similarities
Structures , entrance etc
Did Jihadis set up Eyeraninan programme for money!!
And the enrichement programme based on similar techniques?? were they.
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Did Unkil follow our techniques albeit with heavier ordnance??
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Unkil had to take zero risks compared to IAF. The courage shown and the degree of risk taken by India in facing its nuclear armed adversaries, be it TSP or China, are there for everyone to see.
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Saudi reaction expresses concern about the targeting of nuclear facilities in the sisterly Islamic Republic of Iran.

Note: sisterly, not brotherly. One should not transgender these national relationships.
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A_Gupta wrote: 22 Jun 2025 18:43 Saudi reaction expresses concern about the targeting of nuclear facilities in the sisterly Islamic Republic of Iran.

Note: sisterly, not brotherly. One should not transgender these national relationships.
Iran is the sex change capital of middle east . Factual verifiable info . So it's ok to transgender the relationship in this case .
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Iran parliament approves closure of Strait of Hormuz amid regional tensions
Dubai: Iran’s parliament voted on Sunday to approve a motion calling for the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a vital maritime corridor for global oil shipments, following US airstrikes that targeted key Iranian nuclear facilities overnight, Iran’s Press TV said on Sunday.

The Supreme National Security Council must make the final decision on whether to close the Strait of Hormuz after the parliament approved the measure.
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Looks like Iran is on a suicide path.
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Emergency workers responding to the site of a missile strike in the Ramat Aviv neighborhood of Tel Aviv.
(Source NYT)
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For the record they also said this about Israel..
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After Trump announced American airstrikes on Iran's crucial nuclear sites, Iran resorted to a barrage of missiles at Israel shortly thereafter. Iran also claims it hid its nuclear weapons and they are not at bombed locations.
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> If Iran's nuclear capabilities have been finished, will the war continue? The only reason for Israel/US to continue it is for regime change or to retaliate for the next Iranian strikes.

Rubio said this morning (June 22, 2025) Iran can have nuclear power. Even now the offer is on the table. The offer is to destroy all facilities related to nuclear bombs making.
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chetak wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:52 Hope they flew in burkhas and had their hair covered so as not to excite the irgc, in keeping with the fearless leader's diktats

16 Israeli female pilots were in the skies over #eyeraaan — the same regime that spent years oppressing women.

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Don't worry, Chetak sir. They were accompanied by MALE Guardians.

Wait...

Are the MQ-9 Guardians MALE or HALE class UAVs ?
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FWIW: Some honest thoughts on the U.S. strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites:


We just don’t know what we don’t know. Without access to the intel that top officials see, it’s hard for any of us to truly judge whether this was necessary or smart. We're left guessing.

Let’s be real — this was an act of war. Whether we like the Iranian regime or not (and I definitely don’t), launching strikes like this is almost certainly illegal under both U.S. and international law. We can’t just ignore that.

The fallout won't be clear for a long time. Even if the intel was solid, no one can confidently say how this will play out — not tomorrow, not next year. These kinds of actions can spiral, and history’s full of examples.
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Amber G. wrote: 22 Jun 2025 23:45
Let’s be real — this was an act of war. Whether we like the Iranian regime or not (and I definitely don’t), launching strikes like this is almost certainly illegal under both U.S. and international law. We can’t just ignore that.
But being fully aware of its illegality leads me to do what exactly?

Further, the two institutions that can domestically prosecute this illegality - the Congress and the Supreme Court - aren’t going to do anything.

I doubt that this action will cause a significant shift among the American voters.
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How come there are no reports of radiation leaks if Iran's nuclear sites were bombed?

Or were these strikes more of a warning shot?
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The Guardian reports
“ Hassan Abedini, the deputy political head of Iran’s state broadcaster, said Iran had evacuated the three sites – Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow – some time ago. “The enriched uranium reserves had been transferred from the nuclear centres and there are no materials left there that, if targeted, would cause radiation and be harmful to our compatriots,” he said.”
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A_Gupta wrote: 22 Jun 2025 23:53
Amber G. wrote: 22 Jun 2025 23:45
Let’s be real — this was an act of war. Whether we like the Iranian regime or not (and I definitely don’t), launching strikes like this is almost certainly illegal under both U.S. and international law. We can’t just ignore that.
But being fully aware of its illegality leads me to do what exactly?
I remember the time when Bill Clinton launched missile strikes vs Somalia or Sudan in the late 90s or when not too long ago tomahawks were used against Syria (was it Obama?). How is this any different?

Bottomline remains... जिसकी भैंस उसकी लाठी। And frankly, I'm grateful to be on the Israel US side on this. If the world has to have a hegemon, this is the best choice on offer. Can't imagine what it would be if we had the Russians or Chinese or some Islamic theocracy running the show. Maybe one day India will (which I feel certain it will), but until then Imma take a US led world order.
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A_Gupta wrote: 22 Jun 2025 23:53
Amber G. wrote: 22 Jun 2025 23:45
Let’s be real — this was an act of war. Whether we like the Iranian regime or not (and I definitely don’t), launching strikes like this is almost certainly illegal under both U.S. and international law. We can’t just ignore that.
But being fully aware of its illegality leads me to do what exactly?

Further, the two institutions that can domestically prosecute this illegality - the Congress and the Supreme Court - aren’t going to do anything.

I doubt that this action will cause a significant shift among the American voters.
Good question — I’m not saying we personally have to take legal action or march in the streets. But as a U.S. citizen, it matters to me that something this serious — a military strike that could escalate into full-blown war — be done with the nation fully behind it. And right now, that’s just not the case.

A lot of Americans — not just Democrats, but independents and even many conservatives — are deeply uneasy about this. We weren’t attacked. There was no clear emergency. Congress wasn’t consulted. That’s not how a democracy is supposed to operate when making decisions that could cost lives and trigger a regional war.

Compare this to how the country came together after 9/11 — there was a shared sense of purpose then. This time, we’re divided, and our allies like Europe, India, and others are also clearly hesitant or even uncomfortable with what happened. Some officials are even bringing up impeachment. That tells me this wasn’t a slam-dunk decision, legally or morally — and we shouldn't just shrug it off.

Whether you're for or against the Iranian regime, the process and public backing matter — especially when the stakes are this high.
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A_Gupta wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:09 The Guardian reports
“ Hassan Abedini, the deputy political head of Iran’s state broadcaster, said Iran had evacuated the three sites – Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow – some time ago.
Good. No harm - no foul then, right? Iran mullahs needs to STFU and do nothing at this point if it knows what's good for them. Tired of these jokers pretending they have a mandate from allah to ****** themselves, their neighborhood, and the world.
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A_Gupta wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:09 The Guardian reports
“ Hassan Abedini, the deputy political head of Iran’s state broadcaster, said Iran had evacuated the three sites – Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow – some time ago. “The enriched uranium reserves had been transferred from the nuclear centres and there are no materials left there that, if targeted, would cause radiation and be harmful to our compatriots,” he said.”
Okay. So this strike caps the weapons program for now. Rollback and eliminate will need more work long as Iran isn't able to put together working weapons with the material they stored away.
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The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) a deal signed by IRAN and US that would limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. Publicly stating that Iran is building a nuclear weapon violates this agreement. The US has a right to strike Iran for violation of JCPOA. The US Dumbocrats (e.g., AOC, Schumer) are iching to impeach DJT due to a MOAB strike on nuclear facility violating a deal signed by Iran. Any nuclear weapons facility in IRAN is fair game for a strike. DJT spared Khamenei life twice from Israel. No civilian facility was hit, it is all nuclear by the US, this is not war against Iran, it is war against nuclear weapons. DJT has offered to continue talks for peaceful resolution.
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US citizens should be concerned about how over the years Congress has willingly ceded its powers to the President, and itself has descended into extreme dysfunction. But, by and large, they do not care. Maybe a serious matter like this war will focus their minds, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
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bala wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:53 The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) a deal signed by IRAN and US that would limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. Publicly stating that Iran is building a nuclear weapon violates this agreement. The US has a right to strike Iran for violation of JCPOA. The US Dumbocrats (e.g., AOC, Schumer) are iching to impeach DJT due to a MOAB strike on nuclear facility violating a deal signed by Iran. Any nuclear weapons facility in IRAN is fair game for a strike. DJT spared Khamenei life twice from Israel. No civilian facility was hit, it is all nuclear by the US, this is not war against Iran, it is war against nuclear weapons. DJT has offered to continue talks for peaceful resolution.
The United States, under President Donald Trump, withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018. So what deal are you talking about that Iran violated?
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Jay wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:14
A_Gupta wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:09 The Guardian reports
“ Hassan Abedini, the deputy political head of Iran’s state broadcaster, said Iran had evacuated the three sites – Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow – some time ago.
Good. No harm - no foul then, right?
@Jay gaaru,

Bluff, double bluff, and triple bluff going on here.

1. @OSInt613 says Fordow is finished and Trump retweets that. BTW, this handle has 535k+ followers on Xitter.

2. Iranians come back and say we moved them already. To where? Aren't these three facilities supposed to be most hardened? If there was an evacuation, by definition, the material/equipment was moved to less hardened facilities. Assuming that Iran is bristling with all kinds of spies/informers working for Israel/US (there is some reason to believe that because Israel launched drones from inside Iran), there is a good chance that where the nucs stuff had been moved to is known to the US.

3. On the other hand, if we believe that MOABs failed to penetrate the bunkers, then Iran is lying about evacuation. They lob a volley of missilles and drones on Israel. While that is going on they might try to evacuate these sites.

4. The equipment will be least protected during a move. That is when USIS (US-Israel, as opposed to ISIS :wink: ) can finish them off.

5. But Iran might move some dummies, let USIS bomb them while they are out in the open and crow that they have finished all nuclear stuff (NuMaal).

6. If Iran is not lying now and have really evacuated some important components of NuMaal, they will move those back to the least damaged of the three (after repairing the facility(s)) and restart the program on the double.

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No civilian facility was hit, it is all nuclear by the US, this is not war against Iran, it is war against nuclear weapons.
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vera_k wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:37 Okay. So this strike caps the weapons program for now. Rollback and eliminate will need more work long as Iran isn't able to put together working weapons with the material they stored away.
No radiation leaks are detected by the monitoring agencies as per some reports. If that is the case, what exactly USIS had done to Khamenei?!!! It is hard to believe that they entombed everything in place. If they sealed the access points only, then Iran can simply build/rebuild/repair the tunnels and all.
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Amber G. wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:14 A lot of Americans — not just Democrats, but independents and even many conservatives — are deeply uneasy about this.
Yes. 100%. I am independent may be a little left of the center like Bill Clinton. I don't like this unless the admin has an end game already planned out. If not, we are all in a lot of shiite (pun intended).
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vera_k wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:08 How come there are no reports of radiation leaks if Iran's nuclear sites were bombed?
Or were these strikes more of a warning shot?
I heard reports. Do you a definitive source? IAEA or somebody who monitors for radiation leaks? @Amber G. had already posted in one of the OpSindoor threads, IIRC, who does the monitoring and the mechanics of it.
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"The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists" website has nothing on radiation leak monitoring. IAEA website might yield more results. Let me try.
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https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressre ... -in-iran-5
Based on an analysis of the information available to it, the IAEA assessed that there has been extensive additional damage at the sprawling Esfahan site, which had already been struck several times by Israel since it began targeting Iran’s nuclear facilities on 13 June, Director General Grossi said.

The IAEA had previously reported that several buildings at the Esfahan complex were damaged, some of which may have contained nuclear material.

“The latest attacks early this morning damaged other buildings in Esfahan. In addition, we have established that entrances to underground tunnels at the site were impacted,” Director General Grossi said.

The extent of damage to the Fordow uranium enrichment facility – built deep inside a mountain in central Iran – was not immediately possible to assess in view of its underground location and the penetrating nature of the bombs used.

“It is clear that Fordow was also directly impacted, but the degree of damage inside the uranium enrichment halls can’t be determined with certainty,” Director General Grossi said.

Iran’s other enrichment site, Natanz, which has previously been extensively damaged, was again attacked during the strikes last night with ground-penetrating munitions.

The Director General said the IAEA has been informed by the Iranian regulatory authorities that there has been no increase in off-site radiation levels after the latest attacks on the three Iranian nuclear sites.
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This YT has some details worth listening. The lt./maj gen are explaining things with PGuru.

Iran has 400 kg of enriched uranium (60%-85%) and this could have been ferreted away to some unknown location which can handle uranium. The 8 MOAB would have caused Fordow to be shaken up properly. Centrifuges are sensitive equipment and violent shaking will making them useless.

All enrichment centers are filled with centrifuges (2000+). Radiation from these sites are very small or not existent (UF6). The Iranians were tipped off about the nuclear enrichment centers (to be bombed) and maybe the personnel were evacuated long ago. Good ummah friend Pak may also have tipped of Iran.

Oh, wherever uranium is found for mining, there are rare earth materials also present.

The Iranian theocracy is very strong and getting rid of them is going to be hard. Demoralization (by taking out key leaders of Iran), next is destabilization phase, then there will be a crisis face off between mullahs vs people, then a person emerges as the new leader. Wait and watch. Iran despite being Shia still retains their language Parsi and they celebrate Nowrooze.

Israel bombed a missile storage facility in Sanaa Yemen and it triggered a earthquake of 5.

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Jay wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:52 Not just them, but I think it's a message to every nation that is thinking about going against US interests, or trumps interests.
Are you suggesting that Indian nuke facilities are at risk :?: :!:
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Amber G. wrote: 23 Jun 2025 00:14 A lot of Americans — not just Democrats, but independents and even many conservatives — are deeply uneasy about this. We weren’t attacked. There was no clear emergency. Congress wasn’t consulted. That’s not how a democracy is supposed to operate when making decisions that could cost lives and trigger a regional war.
Both @AGs,

But look at this tweet.

https://x.com/Politicx2029/status/1936270470174609438
Amock
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Madam Sonia Gandhi dropped truth bòmb in The Hindu 👇

She slammed Israel attack on Iran.
She spoke for peace when others stayed quiet.

This is real leadership. Proud. Clear. Fearless.🗿🇮🇳

MUST READ AND SHARE 👏👏
and the image of the article written by Sonia G.

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How is it relevant to this thread? Take your trump fanboyism to the right thread and go wild.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 23 Jun 2025 03:28
Both @AGs,

But look at this tweet.

https://x.com/Politicx2029/status/1936270470174609438
Amock
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Madam Sonia Gandhi dropped truth bòmb in The Hindu 👇

She slammed Israel attack on Iran.
She spoke for peace when others stayed quiet.

This is real leadership. Proud. Clear. Fearless.🗿🇮🇳

MUST READ AND SHARE 👏👏
Cannot expect much from the daughter of Mussolini supporter/follower
as per the writeup is from some hired hand or a left loon on her behalf
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Jay wrote: 23 Jun 2025 04:36
How is it relevant to this thread? Take your trump fanboyism to the right thread and go wild.
I thought I am on your foes list. :mrgreen:

Dems and Sonia G. INC are on the same page. See both AGs wailing that Iran got bombed, what DJT did is an illegal act of war. Same as INC wailing about Balakot. It should not come as a surprise to those rational folks on BRF that there are more Dem supporters of Rahul Gandhi than GOPers.
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