Operation Sindoor - Post Conflict Analysis

[pravula]

Imagine Pakistan getting some Fattah missiles from Iran, instead of the cheap Chinese stuff.

If Iran has got these from Russia in turn, there are probably some checks in place.

Sure, now imagine BLA expanding to Iran's Baluchistan and we don't even need any new unknown gunmen, motorcycle riders who attach magnetic mangos are already in place...

[jrjrao]

From the WSJ. This link below should be accessible (i.e., not behind a paywall):

Netanyahu Passes the Begin Test --

The destruction of Iraq’s reactor in 1981 established a doctrine that endures today.
by Amit Segal.

If only the free world had adopted its own Begin doctrine against countries like North Korea and Pakistan, so that a dictator’s temper tantrum couldn’t lead to nuclear winter. At least Israel has become the world’s bomb squad, a stroke of good fortune for which we can thank Menachem Begin.

[Amber G.]

Found this Form ABD-92: (Atomic Bomb Declaration – Model 1992 )

[Rakesh]

"Asked India For Ceasefire When...": Pak Deputy PM's Viral Admission On Op Sindoor
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/asked-i ... or-8713973
20 June 2025

The Nur Khan air base is one of Pakistan's most sensitive military compounds that houses both air force operations and VIP transport units.

[Amber G.]

Meanwhile Former R&AW Chief AS Dulat bats for India-Pak dialogue

Asim Munir should come and have lunch with Modi. You gotta do something which is different. If he prefers his PM, then let Shebaz come. Then go to Ajmer Sharif. Bring sweets for Modi. Say what Delhi wants to hear

[gakakkad]

^ the worst raw chief ever .

[Sumeet]

Dulat is an embarrassment to even common sense, how did he get to the top post in RAW ?

[gakakkad]

Dulat is an embarrassment to even common sense, how did he get to the top post in RAW ?

There were other legend chutiyas as well . Like chaturvedi and the dude during 26/11. Chaturvedi was so bad that even MMS was pissed with him for incompetence. That's saying something.

[A_Gupta]

Or has Dulat had mental deterioration with age and was not like this before retirement?

[chetak]

^ the worst raw chief ever .

gakakkad ji,


the schitt comes across as sly, shifty, devious, untrustworthy, and behavior bordering on the treasonous, if not outright treachery. his persona is repulsive, his manner is deceitful, evasive and venomous, the aura of cultivated obsequiousness is jarring. never looks anyone in the eye. A used car salesman, and purveyor of paki snake oil

A true blue mafia family approved and congi nurtured reptile and a long time compromised and crooked BIF benefactor who performed like a termite, weakening the Indian state from the inside.

the desperate pakis have now started to mobilize resources from with in India because they have been completely floored by Modi ji's IWT moves. The eyeraaan situation has overtaken and overwhelmed everything else in the news cycle, literally leaving the pakis high and dry, adding to the rapidly growing unrest inside suaar land

[Amber G.]

Recent statement: Indian Defence minister Rajnath Singh

"

Through Operation Sindoor, we have conveyed to Pakistan that their campaign to inflict thousands of wounds on India through terrorism will no longer succeed

"

Full comments

Defence Minister in Udhampur
The terrorist incident in Pehalgam was not just an attack orchestrated across the border against India; it also targeted India's social and communal unity.
We not only thwarted their designs but also launched such a counteraction that Pakistan was forced to its knees, and only then did we pause Operation Sindoor. As we have stated before, Operation Sindoor is not yet concluded.
Operation Sindoor was not merely a response to the terrorist attack in Pehalgam. Through this operation, we have made it clear to Pakistan that the consequences of conducting terrorist activities against India will be increasingly severe. Operation Sindoor is a natural progression of the 2016 Surgical Strike and the 2019 Air Strike.
Through Operation Sindoor, we have conveyed to Pakistan that their campaign to inflict thousands of wounds on India through terrorism will no longer succeed. Any terrorist attack on Indian soil will come at a heavy cost to Pakistan. India is fully prepared to take all necessary actions against terrorism.
Pakistan seeks to weaken India from within. However, Pakistan must not forget that for the sake of India's unity and integrity, if Major Somnath Sharma sacrificed his life, so too did great heroes like Brigadier Usman lay down their lives for this nation.
Today, I am present in Udhampur. Just a few hours away from here lies Naushera, the place where Brigadier Usman made the supreme sacrifice for Mother India.
As our country celebrates International Yoga Day today, we must recall the true meaning of the word "Yoga." Yoga means to unite. Connecting every section of society with India's culture and soul is true Yoga. If even a single section of society is left behind in this endeavor, it would mean a breach in the cycle of India's unity and security. Therefore, today, let us not only practice physical Yoga but also strive for Yoga at the societal and ideological levels. This task must be undertaken with great patience and restraint.

[gakakkad]

^ the worst raw chief ever .

gakakkad ji,


the schitt comes across as sly, shifty, devious, untrustworthy, and behavior bordering on the treasonous, if not outright treachery. his persona is repulsive, his manner is deceitful, evasive and venomous, the aura of cultivated obsequiousness is jarring. never looks anyone in the eye. A used car salesman, and purveyor of paki snake oil

A true blue mafia family approved and congi nurtured reptile and a long time compromised and crooked BIF benefactor who performed like a termite, weakening the Indian state from the inside.

the desperate pakis have now started to mobilize resources from with in India because they have been completely floored by Modi ji's IWT moves. The eyeraaan situation has overtaken and overwhelmed everything else in the news cycle, literally leaving the pakis high and dry, adding to the rapidly growing unrest inside suaar land

We really need a desi equivalent of canary mission. Our yehudi cousins maintain a database of anti-semites . The database also includes people like Soros and norman Finkelstein who are ethnically Jewish but rabidly anti Israel .

Rumor is that mossad and shin bet are involved in this . Pretty comprehensive . Includes names of students as well. And they make sure there are consequences. Like even Jewish students in this list are barred from Israel .

https://canarymission.org/

We need to make a public searchable database of hindu-phobes and enemies of state. List should include ethnic hindus as well. If they are non Indian citizens they should be automatic pngs . Corporates should be encouraged not to hire people on that list . Basically if you make it to the list your life is ruined . Someone needs to convey this idea to GOI . List should be maintained by private individuals to maintain plausible deniability and separation from the government.

[gakakkad]

From January 2025 .

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2588276/pakistan

This was reported in BRF back in January but we glossed over it.unfortunately , I am sure the meeting was at least related if not consequential for the pahalgam incident .

A filthy scumbag by the name of Gentry Beach (***** here onwards ) visited porkis with the hope of getting some mines in Balochistan. Whether or not they truly exist or are fairy dust concocted by porkis is anyone's guess . The event turned out to be significant and likely lead to failed marshalls meeting with trump . We live in a simpsons universe.. I regret voting for him .

[SRajesh]

Shri Dulatji
Was he not part of the Backdoor Achktoo diplomacy.
There were some rumours of his spouse and ISI or some Jihadi chiefs wife going around on shopping trips together in Dubai or Sharjah
And God knows what other strategic assests he had compromised like our esteemed VP Shri Ansariji!!!

[gakakkad]

Ansasi was irgc/quds surrogate . He basically worked for ayatollah

[chetak]

Ansasi was irgc/quds surrogate. He basically worked for ayatollah

gakakkad ji,

the mamamia mafia had unconditionally promised him the presidency. his close blood relatives are real life gangsters, goondas, and history sheeters in UP


Thank God, there there was heavenly intervention in the form of Modi ji, who stormed to power at the right time


his "farewell" from parliament was a stiff kick on his jihadi butt, where even Modi ji trolled him unmercifully

[Amber G.]

pesh hai

Operation Sindoor: A Very Red Line

In May of the year twenty-twenty-five,
Terror struck Pahalgam—no one left alive.
India, calm? Not this time, dear.
They painted the map with a Sindoor smear.

"Precision strike!" said Delhi with flair,
"Just a little visit, from the BrahMos in the air."
Pak looked up, then ducked in fright,
"Ceasefire! Ceasefire!" by Tuesday night.

Jets on runways, radars fried,
Nur Khan blinked... and then just died.
Missiles rained with desi pride,
While Captain Orange and General Green wildly lied.

Then came the twist no one could guess:
A Nobel pitch—what a PR mess!
“Give it to Trump,” said Pak with glee,
“For watching the war from a golf tee.”

Trump, of course, puffed out his chest:
“Nobody stops wars better than the best!”
Ignored the maps, misnamed the towns,
Asked if "Sindoor" was a girl in gowns.

And so the saga came to rest,
With Munir and Trump both claiming they're best.
But memes live on, as memes will do,
Of F-16s destroyed by Akash crew.

[Amber G.]

^^^ Above is inspired by this :
From Ceasefire to Peace Prize: When asking for mercy becomes a medal-worthy move!

Not makingit up -- get this straight—Pakistan begged for a ceasefire after getting walloped in Operation Sindoor… and then turned around to recommend Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize?

Do they even realize what they’re asking? That’s like a guy yelling “Uncle!” in a street fight and then nominating an onlooker for the Best Choreography.

Meanwhile, Trump probably thinks “Sindoor” is a new MAGA shade of red.

[Amber G.]

Pakistan Field Marshal Munir, FM Dar meets Turkish President Erdogan on the sidelines of OIC Foreign ministers meet

[Vayutuvan]

Or has Dulat had mental deterioration with age and was not like this before retirement?

Who knows and who cares?

[Vayutuvan]

the desperate pakis have now started to mobilize resources from with in India ...

chetak gaaru, does this fellow Dulat has any pull in RA&W, i.e. any of his disciples are embedded into RAW in key positions? Maybe Doval ji has a list of all those termites and has sanitized the organization by now. One hopes so.

[Vayutuvan]

The database also includes people like Soros and norman Finkelstein who are ethnically Jewish but rabidly anti Israel .

Let me check to see if Naomi Klein is in the list. She holds sway in extreme left circles in Canada and the US.

(Added later) Yes, she is in that DB.

https://canarymission.org/professor/Naomi_Klein

[gakakkad]

https://canarymission.org/professor/Naomi_Klein

Naomi Klein is there

its got a reporting mechanism with is very active. I've myself reported people who were pro-paki when they posted anti-israel stuff. I had to use their service since we don't have one of our own.

They have a list of doctors as well and have reported people to medical boards..

basically if your name is there things get messy

[Vayutuvan]

basically if your name is there things get messy

I am happy to report that Suvir Kaul and Ania Loomba are also in that DB. Prof. Kaul supported Steven Salaita.

[Vayutuvan]

The website is very slick with cross-references and all. I don't know what CMS they are using but it is very nice. They are using nginx web server.

[Amber G.]

Pahalgam terror attack: 2 held for harbouring terrorists; disclose they were 3 Pak LeT operatives

[Cyrano]

Good one Amber G!

[Rahul M]

Dulat is an embarrassment to even common sense, how did he get to the top post in RAW ?

There were other legend chutiyas as well . Like chaturvedi and the dude during 26/11. Chaturvedi was so bad that even MMS was pissed with him for incompetence. That's saying something.

Chaturvedi was chief during 26/11.

[ramana]

Pakistan Field Marshal Munir, FM Dar meets Turkish President Erdogan on the sidelines of OIC Foreign ministers meet

Need to analyze this post WH lunch meeting in Strat Forum

[ramana]

IDRW reports on foreign interest in Operation Sindoor ordnance.

[krithivas]

[Venting] The hell BR is referring to the loser bunker-baby by the military rank he awarded himself. It would suffice to address the Munir coward as COAS or something equivalent. That BR is indirectly honoring the abject loser with that "FM" title is beyond ridiculous.

Pakistan Field Marshal Munir, FM Dar meets Turkish President Erdogan on the sidelines of OIC Foreign ministers meet

Need to analyze this post WH lunch meeting in Strat Forum

[JE Menon]

Or has Dulat had mental deterioration with age and was not like this before retirement?

Who knows and who cares?

He was always a ba$tard.

[Amber G.]

[Venting] The hell BR is referring to the loser bunker-baby by the military rank he awarded himself. It would suffice to address the Munir coward as COAS or something equivalent. That BR is indirectly honoring the abject loser with that "FM" title is beyond ridiculous.

Need to analyze this post WH lunch meeting in Strat Forum

Good point - May be he should be refereed to 'Fraud Marshal' (as I have done a few times) or at least put 'FM; under a quote if we are cutting and pasting a news item as such to keep up transparency. (In this audience no one is fooled by 'FM' as deserved or as a sign of respect.

[arshyam]

[Venting] The hell BR is referring to the loser bunker-baby by the military rank he awarded himself. It would suffice to address the Munir coward as COAS or something equivalent. That BR is indirectly honoring the abject loser with that "FM" title is beyond ridiculous.

I personally liked "Failed Marshal" Munir (Bunker Wale) that was coined by someone on this thread. It encapsulates both derision toward his self-awarded rank and the route he took to get there (bunker).

[Vayutuvan]

I personally liked "Failed Marshal" Munir (Bunker Wale) that was coined by someone on this thread. It encapsulates both derision toward his self-awarded rank and the route he took to get there (bunker).

Yes. My preferred name for him. Maybe even Failed Marshallah (double pun - Marshal and maashaallah). Failed Martiallaw (Faired Maltiar-raw in Chinese).

[Aditya_V]

Seeing the NATO-Ukraine - Russia Conflict and Israel US- IRAN conflict along with operation Sindoor , my respect for the IAF has gone many fold.

1- NATO -UKRAINE- Russia

- Despite all the talk with HIMARS, SCALP, SDB, Archer, Ceaser, apart from certain specialized Drone strikes, Ukraine NATO- has been able to take out Russian Air Bases, Crimean Bridge, Critial Radar, command, etc which was expected in 2022- apart from Tomohawk and GBU57 type special weapons have been thrown at Russia. Similarly, Russia has not been able to HIT Ukraine Airforce Hangers and limited no of Su-27, Mig 29, F-16, M-2000, Ukrainian supply locomotives etc.

2- Israel -Iran conflict- while Israel has shown precession strikes, Iran has not been able to hit any of Israeli AFB's- they tried with Nevetim AFB in Nov 24 when Israeli anti missiles defenses were pretty much exhausted after the nearly year long Barrage by Hamas/ Hezbollah, or hit IsAF incoming aircraft, Iran is doing WW2 type V2 rocket attacks on Telaviv Haifa - general area of cities with mostly Chinese Origin BM's. With only the ones with Lighter payloads getting through ( increasing the speed of the warhead while reducing the impact of a successful hit).

Now compare , how we took out the Chinese HQ-16, HQ-9, LY-80 radars, Terror targets with PAF/PA on full alert, and precision hits on PAF CI-4I control centers, PAF Hangers- SAAB 2000 goes inside a Hanger and within 1/2 hour the Brahmos hits the hanger . Now during a conflict we cannot export Brahmos to Russia, but I bet the Russians will be feeling they missed the opportunity to get Indian Algorithim Seeker Kits or equip thier SU-30SM with Brahmos in 2021 before the conflict. They must have thought P800 was thier Missile, with KH101, Kalibr etc. what additional capability Brahmos could do, now they know.

So far, the Israelis have shown good ABM and Precession hitting capability but we are right up there with what the US/ Israel have with respect to precession targeting.

[Aditya_V]

Another doubt I have is Murid Airbase and PAF Nur Khan Air base Attacks , it doesn't seem like Brahmos and just scalp, I think we could have used either Prithvi Solid Fueled BM's which took out these underground control towers

[drnayar]

I personally liked "Failed Marshal" Munir (Bunker Wale) that was coined by someone on this thread. It encapsulates both derision toward his self-awarded rank and the route he took to get there (bunker).

Yes. My preferred name for him. Maybe even Failed Marshallah (double pun - Marshal and maashaallah). Failed Martiallaw (Faired Maltiar-raw in Chinese).

Ok here is one more for their kapital...islamisbad .

[A_Gupta]

He was always a ba$tard.

So it is not a case of going soft in his senescence. Just wanted to settle that.
That things were so bad in India that a Dulat was at the helm, I was not aware.
It explains some of Pakistan's (now unfounded) confidence.

[gakakkad]

^ yanks jamming gps is good for us. Also did we jam gps ourselves ?