A_Gupta wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 04:54
US Dept of State briefing, July 8th. Two excerpts below. If you understand what was said, please post.
https://www.state.gov/briefings/departm ... IAPAKISTAN
Pakistan:
QUESTION: Thank you so much. After the ceasefire between India and Pakistan, Pakistani Government and army chief appreciate the efforts of President Trump and nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize. But on the other hand, Indian Prime Minister Modi and his cabinet members continuously saying that President Trump has no role in the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. Even Jaishankar, when he met Secretary Rubio last week, after that meeting he told media that President Trump has nothing to do with the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. So what are your thoughts on these lies and rogue behavior of Modi cabinet members?
MS BRUCE: (Laughter.) I think I – so many comments speak for themselves. That’s one of the good-news aspects of our modern world is people can see what’s really occurring. You’re not reliant on a comment to know what has really happened.
The world is playing out in front of us in real time on big screens and small screens. Everyone will have an opinion. That’s an opinion. Some opinions are wrong. Mine rarely are but other people’s opinions can be wrong. (Laughter.) But that’s what we get to do is analyze and judgment, and the fact is is that we understand in front of us every day the clarity of what’s transpiring in our world.
We’re the first generation of a couple generations here – so many of you are much younger than I am – we’re my generation perhaps, I would say, growing up with a big TV that had the turn dial, and I was the remote control. It was, “Tammy, go change the channel.” And you change it. You’ve got four channels. And the speed, the exponential speed, of change of technology that now I would watch television on my phone that is in my hand, is natural for so many, but it reminds many of us of how quickly things will change, how much information we can get, and the seriousness of making up our own minds when it comes to the things that the world puts upon us.
Donald Trump is here to help make that easier and to help use this to make things clearer. Secretary Marco Rubio is in the same position, the Vice President of the United States also involved in the negotiations with Pakistan and India, JD Vance. Same dynamic, fresh views, new ideas, understanding the world as it sits, and making sure that it’s better when they leave. And they will be recognized for that.
That’s it for today, you guys. I will be here all week, and I will see you on Thursday. We will get – with many things up in the air, we will have – keep an eye on state.gov and releases that I put out, and also the President’s Truth Social, the Secretary of State’s X account.
in my opinion, what the responder, Bruce, is saying is that in the older days, you would have to rely on the wordings and assurances of the responsible parties, heads of states for their statement and take it at that face value, in the current day though, info and voices are transmitted instantaneously, and if one were to look at the chronology of events, it shows that trump posted his ceasefire take on truth social before there was any word from either india or pakistan, so it must necessarily follow that trump was the progenitor of such talks, and as per the above the is here to help
the best way to dismantle this would be india's response to another paki linked terror attack, as iirc, that would be treated as an act of war and india would respond accordingly, at that juncture when the reporters ask the white house on why the savages are not being appeased by scraps thrown at them as before, they might question the settled narrative
also, i was quite ticked off by this phrasing from the above cutout:
So what are your thoughts on these lies and rogue behavior of Modi cabinet members?
dont really know what is the response to the above; trump will keep on trumpeting his ceasefire involvement till demons devour his soul, maybe have the regular EAM spokie respond to any further questions on the above topic, and for the next instance, send the word out before unaffiliated third parties shoot off gleefully
Bangladesh:
QUESTION: At the recent Quad meeting, Indian Foreign Minister Jaishankar said India has every right to defend itself against terrorism and expect Quad partners to understand that. Given the situation that India shares the longest border with Bangladesh, given the situation – last week, ammunition linked to the last year violent anti-government movement in Bangladesh was found in the baggage of Yunus interim government advisor Asif Mahmud at Dhaka International Airport.
MS BRUCE: All right, okay —
QUESTION: And under the Yunus-led interim government, last week Sri Sri Durga Mandir, Hindu mandir, was demolished by government bulldozer, Hindu barber was taken —
MS BRUCE: All right. Now – now you —
QUESTION: And last one —
MS BRUCE: I – we try to avoid soliloquies or —
QUESTION: And what is your reaction? Thank you.
MS BRUCE: — or the little history lessons. I understand it’s a complicated, detailed dynamic involving India and Bangladesh. We understand that. We – there is – and I would send you to state.gov. I don’t – I’m not being trite here in this suggestion. There is – there are two statements regarding the Quad meeting, one from Secretary Rubio and a joint statement from all the partners that is quite extensive – and that is what we are willing to share about what happened in those meetings. So those are the purpose of the readouts.
I will certainly not characterize not only the Secretary’s position about the United States – I’m not certainly going to characterize India’s or any other nation’s position or statements in what is a diplomatic meeting. But I would suggest you see those – that joint statement, and I think we’ll be in good shape.
Now, behind you, in the blue shirt.
re: the question for bangladesh, the line in reasoning in such circles is: india and its neighbours are quite religious and conservative, we (the westerners) know how pised off islamists from that region can become when the matters of faith are concerned, and terrorism soon follows any attacks on religion or religious sites; so the question to the responder was whether india, like people in its neighbourhood, would consider the attack on the hindu temple in another country a topic of terrorism, especially as it seems to be a state driven provocation
we know internally that india is the most masterful at ignoring such attacks in india itself let alone look into issues with a neighbouring country, but for people for whom ideologies for the shadowlands between israel and china are viewed as same-same, they wanted to have the assurance of the white house on the topic