Operation Sindoor - Post Conflict Analysis

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Aditya_V wrote: 16 Jul 2025 12:21 One question I have, is Sakesar Radar Station no longer that important? how come it did not receive love and attention from the IAF- in 1971 and 65 IAF lost pilots trying to take it down given its Strategic location.
Study the targets hit and come to your conclusions.
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CoPilot reads BRF :)
In operation sindoor why was the radar station at Sakesar not attacked?
The radar station at Sakesar, once a prized strategic target during earlier conflicts like the 1965 and 1971 wars, was notably not attacked during Operation Sindoor—and that’s sparked some curiosity.

According to a post-conflict analysis on Bharat Rakshak, one forum member questioned whether Sakesar is no longer considered strategically vital, especially since the Indian Air Force had previously lost pilots trying to neutralize it in past wars. The response suggested that a deeper look at the targets actually hit during Operation Sindoor might offer clues. It implies that India’s target selection was deliberate, focusing on terror infrastructure and key air bases, rather than legacy radar sites that may have diminished in importance or been replaced by more modern systems3.

In short, it seems the omission of Sakesar was intentional, possibly because:

It no longer plays a central role in Pakistan’s air defense grid.

India prioritized high-value, active assets like drone bases, radar installations with anti-stealth capabilities, and command centers.

The operation aimed to be precise and non-escalatory, avoiding unnecessary provocation.

Would you like a breakdown of the radar sites that were targeted instead? Some of those hits were pretty telling.
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From Nitin Gokhale interview on you tube


PAF lost 4 Block 52s, 2 Mirage 5s and 1 IL 76 as in combat losses in air! They lost another 4 F16s in Sargodha apparently...., apart from taking out the AWACS which was a SAAB bird and all the social media narrative is on how bad the Chinese weapons are :rotfl:
Apologies if it is repost....
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Co pilot?? Starting to answer random BRF posts :rotfl: :rotfl:
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A_Gupta wrote: 17 Jul 2025 17:23 CoPilot reads BRF :)
What is the source of this post?
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This is what's returned when querying copilot.microsoft.com with the question posted. Microsoft's Copilot system references this forum directly in the answer, while Google's Gemini system does not.

Both CoPilot and Gemini have accurate answers. ChatGPT on the other hand is wildly inaccurate, and thinks Operation Sindoor is another name for Operation Safed Sagar and was carried out as part of the 1999 Kargil war.
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Rakesh wrote: 17 Jul 2025 20:51
A_Gupta wrote: 17 Jul 2025 17:23 CoPilot reads BRF :)
What is the source of this post?
Apologies, Microsoft’s publicly available Large Language Model/ AI, available by Bing search or directly:

https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/TeZ ... KmgTsKVSDr
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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 025-07-19/
Trump says he thinks 5 jets were shot down in India-Pakistan hostilities
WASHINGTON, July 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday up to five jets were shot down during recent India-Pakistan hostilities that began after an April Islamist militant attack in India-administered Kashmir, with the situation calming after a ceasefire in May.
Trump, who made his remarks at a dinner with some Republican U.S. lawmakers at the White House, did not specify which side's jets he was referring to.

"In fact, planes were being shot out of the air. Five, five, four or five, but I think five jets were shot down actually," Trump said while talking about the India-Pakistan hostilities, without elaborating or providing further detail.
From elsewhere:
Donald Trump mentioned the downing of fighter jets reportedly during a dinner with some Republican lawmakers at the White House. Although he didn't give any further details, Trump did say that these were fighter jets airborne and not those stationed at any of the airbases that were struck as the tensions escalated. "You had India, Pakistan, that was going… in fact, planes were being shot out of the air...four or five. But I think five jets were shot down actually…that was getting worse and worse, wasn't it?... That was looking like it was going to go, these are two serious nuclear countries, and they were hitting each other," he said. Trump was quoted as saying to the MPs.
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Pakistanis are finding this as arousing as going to the farm.


There is a lot that he needs to reveal. Why stop at this?

Polls show him to be held in high esteem for being forthcoming.

India has another disaster on its hands.
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A_Gupta wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:00 https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 025-07-19/
Trump says he thinks 5 jets were shot down in India-Pakistan hostilities
WASHINGTON, July 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday up to five jets were shot down during recent India-Pakistan hostilities that began after an April Islamist militant attack in India-administered Kashmir, with the situation calming after a ceasefire in May.
Trump, who made his remarks at a dinner with some Republican U.S. lawmakers at the White House, did not specify which side's jets he was referring to.

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Don't know how true this news could be from China:

After demanding an “impartial probe”, China now STRONGLY CONDEMNS the Pahalgam terror attack and calls for COUNTER-TERROR cooperation.

— Comes after the US declared TRF a Global Terrorist Organisation.

https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1946252959798657289

// China is resorting to same U-Turn downhill skiing tactics as their munna Pak.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 19 Jul 2025 19:52 Pakistanis are finding this as arousing as going to the farm.


There is a lot that he needs to reveal. Why stop at this?

Polls show him to be held in high esteem for being forthcoming.

India has another disaster on its hands.

Chill, sanjaykumar ji.


This is trumpwa's real estate negotiating tactic that he hopes will put pressure on his desperate need to enter India's agri and dairy markets and gain open access ...... :mrgreen:

just like he thinks that if the russkis make peace with UKR, then he would get to grab the entirety of UKR's REE resources
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I have high regard for trump.


He has single handedly shorn several narratives of sanctimonious hypocrisy. I mean that sincerely.
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https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics ... th-america

South China morning post

India gets global buyer interest for brahmos

A very very very surprising article in scmp which is Chinese state sponsored media admitting porkis got their asses whooped and all ground targets were hit and destroyed and nothing penetrated Indian Air defense.

Basically admitting to what we know already. Very surprising to see that article in scmp . Could not believe my eyes . Only question is why they wrote it .
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A_Gupta wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:00 https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 025-07-19/
Trump says he thinks 5 jets were shot down in India-Pakistan hostilities
If one follows the bloviations of Trump closely, the step by step transactionalism is either apparent or easily inferred.

India starts Op Sindoor: Trump silent

China puts $300m in Trump's family-owned crypto laundering venture WLF. Pakistan commits another $60m to it. Trump starts bawling about ceasefire, nuclear war, mediation on J&K etc.

Last month: new tranche of $ comes from Pak/China into WLF [inferred]. Trump invites Asim Munir to White House as services rendered. He invites Modi as well, hoping for "mediation summit" optics, but Modi refuses. [demonstrated]

A week or so ago: Pakistanis fail to pay the next tranche of $, possibly complaining that services rendered were inadequate because Modi did not accept the invitation to the White House [inferred].

Trump reciprocates this Pakistaniyat by officially designating TRF an international terrorist organization, but stops short of naming Pakistan itself as TRF's sponsor [demonstrated]

This week: suddenly a new tranche of $ comes into Trump-owned WLF... perhaps partially from Pakistan, but likely mostly from China (which is getting anxious that its post-Sindoor narrative about superior Chinese armaments is quickly evaporating in the face of real-world evidence). [inferred]

Trump acknowledges the new tranche of $ by publicly babbling about "5 fighter jets lost" (a dead giveaway since it exactly echoes the BS number floated by ISPR on May 7/8th). But once again, he stops short of specifying whose jets were lost. [demonstrated]

Just about every US Presidency, Senator, and Congressional Representative in living memory has been for sale at the right price, so Trump is not unique in this. What is unique about Trump is that (1) his sale price is soooooper cheap, relatively speaking (2) services rendered are under-delivered and always short-lasting.

Among US Presidential suppliers of paid political favors, Trump is definitely the equivalent of China :rotfl:
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^^ What is stopping Indians from buying these senators, if all of them have a price tag?
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sanjayc wrote: 20 Jul 2025 17:13 ^^ What is stopping Indians from buying these senators, if all of them have a price tag?

There may be a CAG audit
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