Serial Blasts in Mumbai

[abhishek_sharma]

ISI bankrolled, locals carried out Mumbai triple blasts

[sum]

^^ So, what about the local sleepers in Mumbai? All news only about Gen.Murad, Saudi etc but what is being done about the local links?

[ramana]

As long as INC is there local connections will not be rpobed. IOW what can be done wont be done but what can't be done will be highlighted to wring hands and claim its out of their hands.

Zhaveri Bazar merchants should raise funds and get protection form foreign hand as Indian police wont and cant protect them.

This is how EIC came into India. The Mughals wouldnt and couldnt protect them locals as they were too busy infighting.

[ramana]

Nightwatch report on

Night Watch 30 August 2011

Pakistan-Afghanistan: Update. US officials told the media today that the main ingredient in most of the homemade bombs that have killed hundreds of American troops in Afghanistan is fertilizer produced by a single company in Pakistan, where the US has been pushing unsuccessfully for greater regulation. Enough calcium ammonium nitrate fertilizer for at least 140,000 bombs was legally produced last year by Pakistan's Pakarab Fertilizers Ltd., and then smuggled by militants and their suppliers across the porous border into southern and eastern Afghanistan, according to US officials.

Comment: Today's official statement understates the problem. There are two large Pakistani fertilizer factories that produce ammonium nitrate fertilizer and multiple distributors. According to one US official assessment, 95% of all ammonium nitrate fertilizer imported into Afghanistan is used for bomb making.

Only drug farmers use ammonium nitrate as fertilizer because of its price. Other Afghan farmers generally favor urea-based fertilizers and natural fertilizers because they are much less expensive. Only the Taliban and drug syndicates can afford to pay to have ammonium nitrate smuggled into Afghanistan, in defiance of the official ban on ammonium nitrate imports since 2009. Afghan media routinely report that the banned fertilizer enters Afghanistan from Pakistan at border crossing points in truck convoys without restriction.

Afghanistan produces no ammonium nitrate. Thus the apparently inexhaustible supply of IEDs used by the Taliban, which represent the greatest threat to US forces, originate entirely in Pakistan in two locations. Somehow correcting this situation and eliminating this source of threat do not seem to be a significant tactical challenge for US special operations forces. The question for ten years has been why nothing has been done.

Special comment: Readers need to know that US officials have known these facts for more than ten years and taken no effective action to shut down these factories despite rising loss of American lives. The irresponsible incompetence or outright maliciousness of the Pakistani government and business community contradict Pakistani protests that they are doing everything they can to control insurgency.

The fertilizer plant owners are flagrant war profiteers and should be prosecuted as war criminals. Every intelligence service in the world knows that terrorists use ammonium nitrate, including Pakistani intelligence. The Pakistani Taliban use ammonium nitrate fertilizer in the IEDs they use against Pakistani soldiers and citizens. Incompetent US diplomats involved in stopping the fertilizer plants need administrative sanction and to be replaced.

Destroying the stockpiles and closing the plants would seem to be obvious and easy fixes. However, the Pakistan Army, Incorporated, probably owns the plants. It owns any plants that turn a profit in Pakistan, unless it is owned by the politicians.

TSP is origin of IEDs used in Afghanistan. They could be doing the same in India which is even more porous.

So this explains the source of all the high quality bombs by terrorists in India. Its not Indian fertilizer factories. It could be TSPA owned fertilizer factory output. Gives plausible deniabilty.


Are there press reports of what gets smuggled from TSP and/or imported legally?

[ramana]

I think this is a significant find.

[abhishek_sharma]

Mumbra man to be booked for 13/7?

[saadhak]

Stmt from Maharashtra DGP Ajit Parasnis on Mumbai 13/7 terror attack

"Very soon things will come out. The Anti-Terrorism Squad and crime branch officials have a lot of information and material with them. They also have a fair idea as to which group is behind the blasts but it is not appropriate to reveal the group's name," Parasnis said about the triple blasts probe.

The investigators suspect the role of terror outfit Indian Mujahideen in the blasts and had been probing the case in that direction, police sources said.

The ATS recently arrested two alleged IM operatives Mohammad Haroon and Asrar Tailor in a fake currency case and subjected them to extensive questioning regarding the blasts, they added.

Will the Congress general secretary like to release his next bout of verbal chee-chee?

Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh on Saturday said the involvement of radical Hindu outfit Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) cannot be ruled out in the serial blasts that rocked Mumbai city

[saadhak]

13/7 destroyed what poverty couldn't. Their dreams
A small sample of the "collateral damage" arising out of GoI's incompetence, gross negligence, politics and policies.
Toll as of 1-Oct: 27 killed and more than 140 injured.
And yes, in keeping with the Rs. 32 a day calculation, the generous Rs. 2 lakh compensation should see these families through comfortably for at least 10 years if not more.

On July 13, 2011, there was a bomb blast in the diamond market near the Opera House. Two other blasts rocked Zaveri bazaar and Dadar in South and Central Mumbai respectively, in which a total of 27 people lost their lives, and over 130 others were injured.

Satish Singh, 36, is a security guard at the Pancharatna building which houses the diamond market near the Opera House. Hailing from Nimathi village in Darbhanga district of Bihar, Singh studied up to the 12th standard. He has been working here for the past seven years.
Singh was on his way home when the bomb exploded on the crowded street that day. He received major injuries in his leg and ears.
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Singh looked sad and tired but he has no plans to go back to his village. "When I get well, I'll resume my job. I need to keep that job; I have a five-year-old son and a three-year old daughter".

Pintukumar Yadav is only 20-years-old. He is from Hazaribagh in Jharkhand, and came to Mumbai two years back.
"I used to sell sandwiches near the place where the bomb exploded".
He could hardly speak, as he was in so much pain. He was very thin, emaciated; his ribs were visible on his chest. He lost one leg in the blast and his other leg was broken. The broken leg has been put back together and is now plastered. But he does not look like he has the strength to recover.
Imagine the dreams this teenager had when he came to the maximum city. Two years later they lie shattered like his bones, in a city where he has no one to call his own. "I have no one, the cops brought me here. I do not know how long I will be here," he said softly
Yadav married Taari Devi 18 months ago and they have a six-month-old son Sunil. "She knows I am injured. She has not come to meet me," he looked baffled and confused. His wife and child were in his village after marriage.
"Once I get well I will go back to my village, my mother is crying for me, my dad is here with me" he said.
News from his village has added to his woes. His wife has left him with their son. "She said she is not interested in staying married to me," he said.

Ghulup Narayan Namdeo belongs to Raigadh district in Maharashtra. He has studied up to the 6th standard.
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"I was just standing on the road when the bomb exploded. I don't know what happened. I lost both my legs there. I did not even know that at that time. The cops brought me here."
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His wife Nikita was with him in hospital. She is an uneducated lady and looked totally lost in the situation that they were in.
They have three sons, 11, 8, and a 5 years old. While the eldest is in their village, the others are studying in Mumbai.
Ghulup has a younger brother working in Mumbai. "I have to do something after I get out of hospital. I have a wife and three kids to look after," he says. But he has no idea what he is going to do.

Bhuwad Sahadev Mahadev, 56, has spent 41 years in Mumbai. He belongs to Khanghar in Raigadh district. He used to work in a diamond merchant's office in Mumbai. Now he is a small broker.
On that fateful day Mahadev had attended a satsang from 3 to 4 pm. He had come back and was just standing on the road when the blast took place. He lost one leg and severely injured his back.

[sum]

^^ Acceptable and minor losses when the final goal is 10% growth

( so say many gurus on BRF itself)..

[Dilbu]

MMS gets a pat in the back from unkil for showing restraint.
'Dr Singh's restraint on tackling terror remarkable'

United States Senator Mark Warner, the democratic co-chair of the Senate India [ Images ] Caucus, said Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh [ Images ] and India's restraint in the face of continuing terrorist attacks is nothing short of remarkable and keeping with the best traditions of India.

In a question and answer session that followed his kick-off address to the third Brookings- Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry Strategic Dialogue on US-India relations, he responded to the recent allegations of Pakistan-based Inter-Services Intelligence-supported terrorist groups attacking American troops and targets in India. "The Indian government in light of some of the not one, but multiple acts of aggression has acted with a level of restraint and class that is commensurate with the best traditions of India," he said.

Amirkhans can talk. What goes of their father's? So shall we say MMS is now one step closer to 'Noble piece price'.

[Vashishtha]

How the ****** is 'showing restraint' against terrorist mofckers a good thing?

[devesh]

the consequences of "vacuum ideology"...

[shiv]

How the ****** is 'showing restraint' against terrorist mofckers a good thing?

We must work with Pakistan. Not against it. Some of the highest people in the USA are saying that and the US can't be wrong. Recall that they took two countries in exchange for two buildings. That is why they are winning while we keep Kasab and Afzal guru alive.

[Manish_P]

No new blast/s but the anniversary the ones which happened in 2006

Remembrance for those which happened almost 2 decades ago. Almost forgotten now probably because no foreigners, only Indians died...

I was in a train behind one train which got hit. And my residence is close to a train yard. So everyday for almost 6-8 months i got to see the mangled trains parked there in the yard

[Dilbu]

Oops had a scare seeing this thread on top. TSP has a lot to pay for. IWT suspension and the hanging sword of Operation Sindoor are steps in the right direction. We will have to rinse and repeat op sindoor several times to get anywhere near justice for all the terrorism we have had to face from TSP.

[S_Madhukar]

TSP and its backers both new and old needs the same generational campaign that they unleashed on us...

[Manish_P]

and here we are 20 years later...

2006 Mumbai train blasts: Bombay HC acquits all 12 accused; says prosecution utterly failed to prove case against them

The Bombay high court on Monday refused to confirm the death sentence for five convicted in the 2006 July 11 synchronised Mumbai train blasts and acquitted all 12 accused who had been convicted in September 2015 by a special MCOCA trial court.

The HC set aside the September 30, 2015 judgment of the special MCOCA court, finding no evidence to uphold the guilty verdict.

The HC held that the prosecution failed to establish its case against all the accused. The prosecution failed to say what kind of explosive was used, its confession statements failed the test of validity, accepted defence arguments of torture before alleged confessions and the HC also discarded the identification parade, for want of proper authority, as well as deposition of witnesses who identified the accused during trial as lacking credibility.

The case is better known as the 7/11 train blasts case. The RDX explosives killed 189 and injured 827 others, according to the trial court verdict.

[ramana]

The judiciary, the prosecution, and the police are utterly shameless. Nearly 200 people killed and close to 900 injured and the judge wonders what explosive was used?

[williams]

The judiciary, the prosecution, and the police are utterly shameless. Nearly 200 people killed and close to 900 injured and the judge wonders what explosive was used?

Where in the world enemy combatants are tried in a civil court? The case should be handed over to NIA.

[Aditya_V]

So Nobody conducted the Mumbai Blasts in 2006 and the victims are self inflicted?

The rot in our systems run deep.

[Cyrano]

The level of professionalism in investigation, evidence collection and forensic analysis in most police forces in India is abysmal. And this will be the result.

[putnanja]

+1 The level of professionalism in our police departments is very low. Same with CBI and ED too. The percentage of convictions is very less in most of the cases, and they drag on for so long that multiple people handle investigations and it becomes a sloppy mess over time

[chetak]

the question to be asked is: who did the head copper boss report to and who did his boss report to and take orders from

'जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस' is a universal truth

[Rudradev]

The judiciary, the prosecution, and the police are utterly shameless. Nearly 200 people killed and close to 900 injured and the judge wonders what explosive was used?

The less said about Judiciary the better.

But before we tar all Indian police & investigation agencies with the same brush in perpetuity, let's take a moment to remember the context & the era.

This was the time of the Malegaon blasts, the Samjhauta Express attack, and the organized witch hunt to frame Colonel Purohit, Sadhvi Pragya, and Swami Aseemanand as "Saffron Terrorists" (even while the attitude to Pakistan was "uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue"). We all know the role of Maharashtra police (especially ATS) in that episode and the identities of those who had a tight grasp on their leash.

Barely two years later, we know what happened in Mumbai, and we know both the agenda behind Ajmal Qasab's kalava thread and the level at which that operation was orchestrated by the regime of that time. Not to mention that Hemant Karkare of the MH ATS was specifically targeted for killing that night.

And that was not all. Remember how the entire law enforcement machinery was hijacked to paint the responding officers as trigger-happy killers during the Batla House encounter in Delhi, just two months before 26/11.

It is not reasonable to expect police, law enforcement, and investigational agencies to do an effective job against Pakistan-sponsored jihadi terrorism in a nationwide atmosphere of consistent pressure, targeted persecution, & deliberate sabotage by the Pakistan-aligned Sonia Gandhi regime.

Unfortunately the prosecution was stuck with whatever evidence the police (operating under these sorts of conditions) could cobble together against those chargesheeted for the 2006 Mumbai blasts. No surprise at all that what evidence they were allowed to build was designed to fall apart under trial. Who even knows if the people arrested were in fact marginal players, put forward to protect the actual perpetrators and their extensive links to the Dawood/Indian Mujahedin/INC nexus.

[Tanaji]

the question to be asked is: who did the head copper boss report to and who did his boss report to and take orders from

'जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस' is a universal truth

While one would have liked the sentence to be upheld, one must note that the accused have not been out, they have been in jail for 16-17 years. It is something at least…

[Manish_P]

...
While one would have liked the sentence to be upheld, one must note that the accused have not been out, they have been in jail for 16-17 years. It is something at least…

Let's tell that to the kin of those who were killed and see what they feel about it.

Or to survivors like this wheelchair bound guy...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 73309.html

Or this person

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehin ... 7.ece/amp/

This young man's body clung to life for 9 years before giving up

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/after-9 ... -up-779044

Not saying that the prison terms were nothing, nor that any innocent must suffer, but the entire law enforcement system has failed here.

[chetak]

the question to be asked is: who did the head copper boss report to and who did his boss report to and take orders from

'जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस' is a universal truth

While one would have liked the sentence to be upheld, one must note that the accused have not been out, they have been in jail for 16-17 years. It is something at least…

Tanaji saar,


here's hoping that this govt will not let it go so easily and will appeal to higher courts

why would the explosive not have been identified, the required tech was certainly available in those days

some onions were quite deeply involved in such shadowy underworld and cross border activities

[saip]

Is this not the case where the explosive samples were sent to FBI and they 'misplaced' them? Can the government file an appeal? Does double jeopardy apply?

[Tanaji]

Is this not the case where the explosive samples were sent to FBI and they 'misplaced' them? Can the government file an appeal? Does double jeopardy apply?

No that was the 1993 blasts, where a detonator was found presumably from the stocks that US sent to Pak army and went missing when sent to US.

[Tanaji]

Let's tell that to the kin of those who were killed and see what they feel about it.

Or to survivors like this wheelchair bound guy...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 73309.html

Or this person

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehin ... 7.ece/amp/

This young man's body clung to life for 9 years before giving up

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/after-9 ... -up-779044

Not saying that the prison terms were nothing, nor that any innocent must suffer, but the entire law enforcement system has failed here.

I fully agree, no one would be happier if they got the death penalty. But with the Indian law system one has to be realistic: the investigation was shoddy. Even if they were convicted, most of them would probably get off with time served as undertrials which was around 19 years btw

The only reason Kasab was hanged was because there was literal video proof. We don’t hang people otherwise. So this is the best we get…

Added later:
Some of the accused were caught with detonators and guns in their possession. The court ruled that ATS team never proved or established that the blasts that occurred used the same type of detonators : which points to the degree of shoddiness in the investigation.

[Neela]

The judiciary, the prosecution, and the police are utterly shameless. Nearly 200 people killed and close to 900 injured and the judge wonders what explosive was used?

MCOCA had convicted them.
HC overturned.

This is a rot in the judiciary because burden of proof ,evidence , admissability seems to be different across the system.

Arbitrariness, leeway, interpretation and most of all , cocky judges who take it upon themselves to talk philosophy.

We are at a major cross roads unfortunately. Patience is running thin with judicial process. It isnt for no reason that Pres. DMurmu lamented that judicial process should work for the common man.

Anyway Fadnavis is escalating.

[Manish_P]

....
Arbitrariness, leeway, interpretation and most of all , cocky judges who take it upon themselves to talk philosophy.
....

Perfect.

That's is the Indian judicial system in a nutshell

Oh wait...that and corruption

[chetak]

Is this not the case where the explosive samples were sent to FBI and they 'misplaced' them? Can the government file an appeal? Does double jeopardy apply?

saip ji,

everyone and his uncle knows that rdx was used

this is the woke soreass hand that is making its presence felt

[Prem Kumar]

This is a 360-degree eff-up because we had "secular" Govts at the State & the Center. As Rudradev said, we can be sure that the real perps were protected

That being said, if detonators & guns were found on the accused, its good enough of a reason for them to hang

This kind of garbage is the reason why I am fully in favor of "encountering" people. I don't want my tax money go to feeding biriyanis to jihadis for 19 years, only for other tax-eating black-robes to acquit them. Its not too late either. If Fadnavis wants, he can bump them all off when they are released. He will win 1000s of votes as a bonus

And for the milords: a reminder about the # of threats against them that the Govt/NIA/IB has thwarted & what-if, God-forbid, the officers get pissed and fail to act on such threats, will suddenly make them "see clearly" and pass the right judgements going forward

We have to wait for the post-Modi BJP dispensation to clean the judicial rot. Modi himself will do nothing

[nandakumar]

https://www.barandbench.com/news/litiga ... -death-row
The above is the link to the Bombay High Court judgment. It is 500 pages long. I am trying to wade through it. It is tedious reading. I will share my findings when I am able to make sense of it. In the meanwhile if anybody is interested the same can be accesed here.

[Manish_P]

Is this not the case where the explosive samples were sent to FBI and they 'misplaced' them? Can the government file an appeal? Does double jeopardy apply?

saip ji,

everyone and his uncle knows that rdx was used

this is the woke soreass hand that is making its presence felt

Chetak sir, this is from the Case Summary from the judgement link shared in earlier post by poster Nandakumar

Page 640 has the list of items recovered from the properties of the accused

and page 662 has this statement by the Court

1477. Now, as far as the evidence relating to recoveries is concerned,
the recoveries are of RDX, granules, detonators, cooker, printed circuit
boards, soldering gun, books, maps, etc. Out of these articles, the
material and substantive evidence is of recovery of RDX, granules and
detonators which are directly connected with the blasts. However, we
have observed that the evidentiary value of these recoveries does not
attach any importance on the ground that the prosecution failed to
establish and prove the proper custody and proper sealing, which ought
to be intact till the articles were taken to FSL.

1478. The circuit boards recovered from A.3 and A.7 are of no help to
the prosecution to establish the present offence as the prosecution
failed to bring any evidence on record and to establish the type of
bombs used in the present crime. Though the prosecution brought on
record the technical report of the expert about the circuit board, it failed
to establish the type of the bombs used in the present crime. Thus, the
said recovery is not relevant.

1479. The recovery of the other articles like books, maps, CPUs, etc.
are also not sufficient even if the recoveries are held to be proved, to
establish the present crime against the accused.

[Cyrano]

Looks like they also didn't try to get a confession from the accused. Not that jihadis will confess easily and implicate other peaceful perpetrators.

[Dilbu]

https://www.barandbench.com/news/litiga ... -death-row
The above is the link to the Bombay High Court judgment. It is 500 pages long. I am trying to wade through it. It is tedious reading. I will share my findings when I am able to make sense of it. In the meanwhile if anybody is interested the same can be accesed here.

I asked Msft Copilot to read through the file and provide a summary on why the accused were found not guilty and what were the failures from the side of the prosecution. Pliss to find the result below.

The court, in its judgment on the 7/11 Mumbai train blasts case, identified several critical shortcomings in the prosecution's case that ultimately led to the conclusion that the accused were not proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Here's a structured summary of the reasons and prosecutorial failures:

1. Eyewitness Testimony: Credibility and Procedural Concerns
The prosecution relied on eight eyewitnesses, including:
Four who claimed to have seen the accused planting bombs.
Two taxi drivers who allegedly transported the accused.
One who witnessed bomb assembly.
One who claimed to have seen the conspiracy being hatched 1.
The court found issues with the trustworthiness and credibility of these witnesses. Some were considered "got-up" or "stock" witnesses.
The Test Identification (T.I.) parades conducted on 7–8 November 2006 were challenged for procedural lapses, including questions about the authority of the officer conducting them 1.

2. Recovery of Explosives: Chain of Custody and Integrity
The defense argued that recovered materials like RDX were not kept in sealed or secure custody until they were sent to the Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL).
This raised doubts about the integrity and admissibility of the physical evidence 1.

3. Confessional Statements: Coercion and Legal Violations
The court found multiple procedural and substantive issues with the confessions:
Many were recorded after prolonged police custody (e.g., 70+ days), raising concerns about voluntariness 1.
Several accused retracted their confessions at the earliest opportunity, alleging torture and coercion 1.
The court noted that the prosecution failed to explain why the accused suddenly chose to confess after such long detentions 1.
There was no inquiry by the Deputy Commissioners of Police (DCPs) into why the accused wanted to confess.
The accused were not informed of their right to legal counsel.
Medical reports were not reviewed before recording the confessions, and in some cases, signs of physical abuse were later documented 1.
The court emphasized that even the appearance of coercion is enough to render a confession inadmissible under Section 24 of the Indian Evidence Act 1.

4. Lack of Corroboration and Inconsistencies
The court applied the principle that guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt and that all evidence must form a complete and unbroken chain pointing only to the guilt of the accused.
It found that:
Confessions lacked corroboration from independent evidence.
Some confessions contained factual inaccuracies (e.g., bombs described as being packed in utensils rather than pressure cookers, as per forensic findings) 1.
There was no clarity on key logistical details, such as the quantity of RDX used or its disposal 1.

5. Legal Standards and Burden of Proof
The court reiterated that:
The burden lies on the prosecution to prove that confessions were voluntary.
Any reasonable doubt or plausible alternative hypothesis consistent with innocence must result in acquittal 1.

Conclusion
The court concluded that the prosecution failed to establish guilt beyond reasonable doubt due to:
Procedural lapses in evidence collection and handling.
Questionable credibility of eyewitnesses.
Inadmissible or unreliable confessional statements.
Lack of corroborative evidence to support the prosecution’s narrative

[Cyrano]

I stand corrected. They did extract confessions albeit in bollywood style

[Dilbu]

I cannot believe the recovered explosives were not sealed and stored in a secure location. WTF.