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Five days. Maldives should merit five minutes.
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India should give conditional aid in tranches. He can fly civilian to collect every year
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I must admire his rhino skin.
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g.sarkar wrote: 07 Oct 2024 16:53 I must admire his rhino skin.
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Gautam saar,


Two words immediately come to mind: taqiya and shatrubodh


Even though we have actually experienced and have also been brutally victimised by these terms over the past so many centuries, we seem to have deliberately ignored them, or worse, failed to understand the true import of either terminology, even when these terms (and their derived narratives) have balefully stared us in the face


Why do you think that for the past seventy solid years of wilfully coordinated commie contaminated and woke projection of India's most iconic representative symbol, the very motif of an independent India's globally recognized classic emblem was a jihadi grave yard called the taj


had this jihadi schitt done to the cheen and xi, what he did to India and Modiji, the hans would have chopped him up into little bits and fed him to the fishes


why are we so eager to pay the bills of such an abomination of a country where plenty of jihadi paki citizens have taken up permanent residence




BTW, this is what social media is saying:

PM Modi did not hug president muizzu as he hugs other global leaders ? why ?
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360 Million USD .. and a 400 Million USD currency swap

Muizzu thanks Indian govt for financial support; PM Modi says 'always given preference to priorities of Maldives'
Maldives President Mohamed Muizzu on Monday expressed gratitude to Prime Minister Narendra Modi for the government's decision to provide financial assistance of Rs 30 billion ($ 360 million), in addition to a $400 million bilateral currency swap agreement.

"I am thankful for the Indian Government's decision to provide support in the form of 30 billion Indian Rupees in addition to 400 million US Dollars bilateral currency swap agreement which will be instrumental in addressing the foreign exchange issues we are facing right now," Muizzu said, ANI reported.

During bilateral and delegation-level talks held at Hyderabad House in New Delhi, India granted the Maldives a $100 million Treasury bills rollover and signed a $400 million and Rs 3,000 crore currency swap agreement.
Added: fully expect bhartiyas to take this as a green signal to start booking tours to the Maldives again... Lakshadweep gaya tel lene
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This is so typical
We keep falling into this trap again and again
Who's calling next??
Srilankan commie Prez
And after him Nepali commie
And the last Beedi Ponzi King
And readying for their pound of flesh!!
I read soemwhere that (and I believe this is true) that when asked why he keeps raiding India (this is to Md Ghor)
And his Answer : India is like tethered cow and I go every time I want to Milk!!
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RuPay card payments is officially launched in Maldives. Many more MoUs have been signed. Maldives President has also cleared that they won't take any step which is against Indian interest.
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Key 🇮🇳🇲🇻 outcomes:
-India's $400 MN bailout for Maldives
-Military cooperation firmed up
-India, Maldives FTA talks to start
-RuPay cards active in Maldives, next up UPI
-India to open consulate in Addu, Maldives CG in Bangalore
-India's support to infra, capacity building
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If India did not help but the Chinese did, would the Chinese then not be in a position to make even more demands of these cretins? This coin has more than one side and regretfully none of these sides are 'entirely' in our favour. We live in an environment where virtually all our neighbours have leaders whose outlook and imagination make Rahul look like a messiah!
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IMO - Admit that I know little about protocols etc, but I felt that it was self-abasing for both Pres. Murmu AND PM Modi to receive this guy. His whole country has 500K people!

The gift of 300 million Rupees and a $400M currency swap makes absolutely no sense.
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SRajesh wrote: 07 Oct 2024 23:54 This is so typical
We keep falling into this trap again and again
Who's calling next??
...
When the defence minister himself made a statement that Pakistan could receive more aid from us than what they would get from the IMF then what can we say..... :roll:
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Amber G. wrote: 08 Oct 2024 09:12 IMO - Admit that I know little about protocols etc, but I felt that it was self-abasing for both Pres. Murmu AND PM Modi to receive this guy. His whole country has 500K people!
It is still a sovereign country and geopolitically important one due to its location. That is the problem. It is just a matter of a few hours of President Murmu's time and a peanuts to make these cretins get out from under the influence of Chinese.
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^^^ FWIW: Someone very highly regarded in scientific world as well as Modi's administration .. said this (paraphrase) ".. myself felt that it was disgustingly self-abasing for both Pres. Murmu AND PM Modi to receive this guy. His whole country has 500K people!

l impact of the President and PM waiting in attendance was appalling, to say the least."
(follow the protocols - no need to give him extra VIP treatment -- in China - he was not met by *very* lower ranks people in official greetings for example)
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The empire always strikes back



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Tis time for Bharat to reunite these small disparate pieces that flew off from the BritShitRaj machinations. Maldives, etc need to be given a pact. Indian forces are there to protect and India wholeheartedly accepts the islands as union territory in exchange for complete economic integration with the bigger empire. Sealed, signed done. All these El presidentes are mere Chief mantrijis. Piddling nation countries don't have the wherewithal to be manipulated by greedy/bully big behemoths like China/US. Just eat humble pie and participate in the growing economy of big brother India.
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chetak wrote: 09 Oct 2024 10:18 The empire always strikes back
Chetak sir, isn't this jiziya. We have had to pay him very handsomely to allow our troops to be there..
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Manish_P wrote: 09 Oct 2024 16:49
chetak wrote: 09 Oct 2024 10:18 The empire always strikes back
Chetak sir, isn't this jiziya. We have had to pay him very handsomely to allow our troops to be there..
well aware of the machinations Manish ji, some overt and others covert, and one is not too happy with the new situation but Modi would not have given too much away, especially not after the beedis made their moves. The details may emerge, by and by

The isi was/is involved here too, along with the cheens
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chetak wrote: 09 Oct 2024 17:14 ....one is not too happy with the new situation but Modi would not have given too much away,....
Agree, Chetak ji. The PM seems to have tried to do the best he could with the hand that has been dealt to him.

The eagle and the dragon are both playing Go on our board and we need to make sure we can give the table itself a shake when needed.
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Manish_P wrote: 09 Oct 2024 17:54
chetak wrote: 09 Oct 2024 17:14 ....one is not too happy with the new situation but Modi would not have given too much away,....
Agree, Chetak ji. The PM seems to have tried to do the best he could with the hand that has been dealt to
The eagle and the dragon are both playing Go on our board and we need to make sure we can give the table itself a shake when needed.
Our best bet would be a regime change, and I am sure Modiji will contrubute to Muizzu's retirement funds.
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g.sarkar wrote: 10 Oct 2024 06:14
Manish_P wrote: 09 Oct 2024 17:54
Agree, Chetak ji. The PM seems to have tried to do the best he could with the hand that has been dealt to
The eagle and the dragon are both playing Go on our board and we need to make sure we can give the table itself a shake when needed.
Our best bet would be a regime change, and I am sure Modiji will contrubute to Muizzu's retirement funds.
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Gautam saar, that is a very slippery slope and such a course will leave us exposed internationally.

We may not even be able to handle the blowback, given the array of enemies ranged against us, and to complicate the situation even further, we need to understand that the joker is not only a jihadi but also a xi puppet, and meddling will be portrayed as some woke religious phobia or a spin will be imparted to shift it into another and more damaging narrative of targeting the ummah

muizzu and his jehadi countrymen are just ornery beggars who are collectively hoping to fool the Indian people into supporting them for free, just like the beedis did and still do. They tried with the cheen but failed miserably and so, India it is

There is no way that money trails can be hidden these days, and it is best not to paint a target on your own back

the amrikis are brazening it out after their beedi fiasco was outed but we are not in the same league

just my two paise onlee
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Odd turn of events.

Did Maldives miscalculate on china’s embrace or just not make the correct inferences?

Why did China not come to its rescue?

What leverage did India threaten? That china could not nullify.
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Amber G. wrote: 09 Oct 2024 04:39 ... in China - he was not met by *very* lower ranks people in official greetings for example)
You mean "... he was not met by *very* lower rank ..."? :wink:
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sanjaykumar wrote: 11 Oct 2024 00:24 Odd turn of events.

Did Maldives miscalculate on china’s embrace or just not make the correct inferences?

Why did China not come to its rescue?

What leverage did India threaten? That china could not nullify.




sanjaykumar ji,


Check the crisis situation status in any country in India's neighbourhood .... :mrgreen:

cheen has always maintained the death grip stranglehold on them but has never parted with a single paise (or the cheen equivalent of a single paise) in "aid"

It is foolish India which has always rushed in with aid and money, it's like a well conditioned pavlovian response

all that these jihadi buggers need to do is spout some boilerplate nonsense about how good India has always been to them and how the opposition in their countries are the evil ones trying to poison their relationship with India

India's purse strings then (once again) open magically and the aid pours out and this is neither diplomacy nor geopolitics but sheer naked blackmail that India has been forced to succumb to repeatedly. It is an eternal rinse and repeat cycle

The next beggared punk using this well worn tactic is the beedi youanus, who is now spouting obsequious lines very similar to what muizzy from the maldives did after the cheen rebuffed him and the effect on India's purse strings will be exactly the same

hasina was already in bed with the cheen and youanus has no option but to also jump into the same bed. The cheen investments in beediland is too big a tree for youanus to either ignore or shake, amriki interests notwithstanding.

with India, every dickhead in the neighbourhood seeks "parity and equality" but how come all of them deal with the cheen, only on an abjectly bent knee, head down, and with their hands folded reverentially, in wretched supplication, with no reference ever to their cry of "parity and equality"




Make no mistake, it is still the cheen who continue to run the show in the maldives but now the cheen need India more than ever and their desperate need for access to India's vast markets is the game changer, hence the tactical retreat by the cheen which the Indian public is idiotically seeing as a maldivian retreat.

cheen puppet muizzu is playing to a script that has been written in peking

The cheen will again kick India out of the maldives soon enough, but only after juicing India



BTW, if Modi ji had accepted the paki invitation for the SCO meet, xi would have come too. The cheen are really desperate to meet with Modi ji




on another note:

cheen has quietly managed a regime change in SL, and there is a hard core commie govt now in place, run by khattar sinhalese whose hatred for India has always been visceral. The "sinhalese visceral hatred for India" is a fact that cannot be contested.

During India's IPKF days the khattar sinhalese JVP was like a terrorist organization, harming Indian interests with every chance it got

Yet Jaishankar has made a visit to SL, with promises of aid, aid and more aid, while the cheen continue to tighten their stranglehold on the new SL govt
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India's strategy is "Be nice to us. We will give you money." That only encourages neighbours to put up a show with India while holding it in contempt. Only military power and ruthlessness can create respect in neighbours, not a money shower
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sanjayc wrote: 11 Oct 2024 09:58 India's strategy is "Be nice to us. We will give you money." That only encourages neighbours to put up a show with India while holding it in contempt. Only military power and ruthlessness can create respect in neighbours, not a money shower

then how did a ghandhy and a Sardar Patel coexist, sanjayc saar, with a double dealing ghandhy often prevailing ... :mrgreen:
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The neighbourhood strategy seems to be take Chinese money, siphon off a good part of it, ruin the country, cry for help, get free bailouts from India, then again ruin the country, make anti India statements, pro China noises and get an even bigger bailout from India. Keep repeating this cycle like some dishonest, crooked damaad who beats wife for dowry and extorts in-laws again and again from some 80s movie.
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Cyrano gaaru, Mizziu/Sri Lankans/Yunus need tha Carlos treatment - Carlos in the Movie The God Father, daamaad of the Don.
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Cyrano wrote: 11 Oct 2024 14:39 The neighbourhood strategy seems to be take Chinese money, siphon off a good part of it, ruin the country, cry for help, get free bailouts from India, then again ruin the country, make anti India statements, pro China noises and get an even bigger bailout from India. Keep repeating this cycle like some dishonest, crooked damaad who beats wife for dowry and extorts in-laws again and again from some 80s movie.
I think the British had the best ideas. Disarm the population. Have a political resident stationed. Station paltan and make natives pay for it. Let the locals have fun in their own way, and never pay for anything. I think India should follow this.
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If Bharat talks about being a net security provider in IOR, we need to take a more structured approach and make our neighbours treaty partners with reciprocal commitments. Currently our approach is ad-hoc and reactive though effective in combating threats like piracy and houti attacks on shipping etc.

Hopefully it will evolve to a formal system to cover all countries on the Indian Ocean from Cape of Good Hope to Indo China sea and all the island nations in between.
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Cyranoji, I believe, treaty partnership crosses a threshold which GOI has not done much after SAARC experience. The other issue might be to achieve things without making much noise about it. GOI has been saying many times that we are not into treaty alliances (when Japan raised the Asian NATO). A treaty partnership with India as the sole leading power in that treaty would be akin to Shivaji Maharaj coronation.
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Multipolar world means at some point of time Bharat will plant it's pole in anyone's behind who doesn't fall in line.
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So here we are again...

PM Modi- President Muizzu talks: From 'India Out' to all in for FTA, how tides turned in the Indian Ocean
"For us it is always friendship first," said Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Maldivian President Mohamed Muizzu on stage, the same president who came to power after advocating an "India Out" campaign in 2023.

The Maldives has had a history of pro-China tilt, with former President Mohamed Nasheed admitting that the country has swung from an “India-first” policy to a pro-China orientation.

PM Modi and President Muizzu held talks on Friday to mend bilateral ties, which had been strained following the 2023 "India Out" campaign and a diplomatic dispute triggered by derogatory remarks made against PM Modi by Maldivian officials the following year.

PM Modi's visit for Maldives came bearing several economic benefits for the country including a free trade agreement, a credit of 565 million dollars, 72 heavy vehicles to its defence ministry, 3,300 social housing units among others:
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Maldives Defence Ministry!
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This is till the next Islamist comes to power and resumes the accuse-threaten-placate-beg-felicitate cycle...
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Consider it part of the defense budget.
As India becomes stronger the cost will come down.
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Facilitate. You misspelled felate
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I don't know if the order of strategy - Saam, Daam, Dand,, Bhed - is significant; and I don't know if the objections here to Daam are that it is ineffective, or that Indian strategy should be purely Dand and the other three parts of Chanakya Niit should be discarded.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 26 Jul 2025 19:44 Facilitate. You misspelled felate
I think it is portmanteau (fecilitate: Fellate + Facilitate :twisted:
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A_Gupta wrote: 26 Jul 2025 19:52 I don't know if the order of strategy - Saam, Daam, Dand,, Bhed - is significant; and I don't know if the objections here to Daam are that it is ineffective, or that Indian strategy should be purely Dand and the other three parts of Chanakya Niit should be discarded.
There is something called apaatra daanam. We have done a lot of daanam to these guys. They are never grateful. Maybe it is time to eschew daanam.
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The Chanakyan Daan has zero to do with Daan as a meritorious act.
It is an instrument of state policy.
How much less will it cost to counter a Chinese presence?
How much of the Indian grant will be spent in India?
The calculation has to be of cost/benefit not grateful/ungrateful.
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